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Questions about the Obama Osama DramaBY Yasmeen Ali This frame grab from video obtained exclusively by ABC News, on Monday, May 2, 2011, shows a section of a room in the interior of the compound where it is believed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden lived in Abbottabad, Pakistan.This Can't Be Happening , May 3, 2011 http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/593Lahore, Pakistan -- I am incredulous! I’ll say one thing: this US Special Forces operation deserves a standing ovation for immaculate execution. Except that some details do get confusing. Maybe I’m just slow, but truly, viewing the still pictures of the compound where Osama was shot to death that are being aired on local TV here, I am left spell-bound by many odd contradictions. First, the wall that encircled the compound, which was blasted through to allow entry to the US attackers, showed a humble charpoy next to a water geyser and a few odd household items stacked right next to the opening. Not a hair out of place, so to speak. It was all a little too orderly for my lawyerly taste. Wouldn’t something have been damaged or knocked over at least? Second, the room where the crucial "fire fight" took place causing deaths of Osama, his wife and some others (but no American), showed what were seemingly very humble lodgings. My own servant’s room is posh in comparison . There are no bullet holes, or marks of bullets ricocheting off the walls, and there’s no sign of damaged glass from the good-sized windows on one wall. The bed sheets on the two charpoys are so neat as to do a hotel maid proud. There’s just over 250 ml of blood on the floor between the two charpoys. It looks to me as though, rather than a fire fight, Osama & Co. were simply sitting ducks for a hunting party! Wait, that’s not all. The glass in the window is see-through. How odd! Anyone could have looked in and seen the world’s most wanted man once night fell, and remember, it’s an open area. The downed helicopter, miraculously, disgorged its crew like magic. Presto! All unharmed by the crash! Yet oddly, the three neighbors of Osama who rushed to the scene to help, and who would have been witnesses to what actually happened, all have gone missing and never returned home. And hey, where are the other dead bodies? There were some, no? And why the rush, rush, rush to dump Osama in the ocean? Why not share the evidence to put a stop of rumor mongers? At least show the corpus delicti to someone objective. Osama's bedroom: no leaks in the waterbed after the shootout The picture of a dead Osama circulating on the web was bad photo shop job. Truly. Kids do a better job. Why not show the body or the DNA test results to the media, or ISI? A friend wrote to me saying, "The USA is about to withdraw from Afghanistan. What better way than after this 'Mission accomplished' moment? Obama is entering the re-election period. This will boost his ratings. Pakistan’s army and the ISI are caught on the back foot because of their inability to detect Osama bin Laden’s presence in Abbotabad. Pakistan is again on the defensive , after having gained the high ground on the (Raymond) Davis affair. The world once again views Pakistan as the terrorist capital of the world. Is this another step in its balkanization and an excuse for eliminating its nukes?" But I find it just so hard to believe that this was not a mutually cooked dish. As another friend said, "We may be poor, we are not stupid." Yasmeen Ali is a Pakistani attorney who lives in Lahore. She offered this article, which ran originally in the Pakistan Observer and in her own blog, PakPotpourri2, exclusively to ThisCantBeHappening! for publication in the US http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/593
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« Reply #641 on: May 04, 2011, 08:07:52 AM » |
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FAVORITE QUOTES FROM ABOVE bigron POST:
"Yet oddly, the three neighbors of Osama who rushed to the scene to help, and who would have been witnesses to what actually happened, all have gone missing and never returned home."
Of course ... ELITE KILLER 101 ... eliminate all witnesses.
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"Osama's bedroom: no leaks in the waterbed after the shootout."
Anybody believe this is possible?
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« Reply #643 on: May 04, 2011, 09:17:04 AM » |
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The statement House Arabs and House Muslims Never Released about OBLIkhras, May 3, 2011 http://ikhras.com/2011/05/the-statement-house-arabs-and-house-muslims-never-released-about-obl/We are US-based Arab and Muslim organizations. We feel a compelling obligation to explain to our fellow Americans the meaning of the US killing of Osama bin Laden. We take this opportunity to revisit the inconvenient fact that Osama Bin Laden and the Mujahideen were funded and supported by the US to fight the USSR in Afghanistan in the eighties. We recall that Ronald Reagan had called the Mujahideen "freedom fighters" when their interests coincided with the US’s. We remind ourselves that "Between 1978 and 1992, the US government poured at least US$6 billion (some estimates range as high as $20 billion) worth of arms, training and funds to prop up the mujaheddin factions." We note that the Mujahideen aligned themselves with the US, convincing themselves of the "lesser of two evils" argument. We recall that Zbigniew Brzezinski said: The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. We learn an important lesson from this history and note that collaboration with the US is an immoral and counterproductive effort. Collaboration does not shield one from US persecution, neither is it a smart "strategy." Aligning with powerful empires is foolish and self-defeating. The logic of House Muslims (or "House Negroes" as Malcolm X called the collaborators of his era) is short-sighted and idiotic.  We abhor the subtext of President Obama and Secretary Clinton's remarks, implying that the lives of millions of Afghanis, Iraqis and Pakistanis were worth somehow sacrificing in order to locate one ex-"freedom fighter" (as per Reagan’s words). Indeed, the President and Secretary of State did not even pay lip service to the countless lives devastated, weddings bombarded, children orphaned, spouses widowed, natural resources stolen. We condemn the hypocrisy of Secretary Clinton, who feigned concern for "innocent people" who were killed by OBL but not the innocent people in Afghanistan and Iraq for whose death she caused as Senator then as Secretary of State, or the innocent people in Palestine and Lebanon whose death by Israeli warplanes she supported. We cannot expect Obama and Clinton to apologize for the war crimes the US committed in pursuit of OBL, as it is not in empires’ nature to condemn themselves. We are still haunted by the images of our sisters and brothers tortured in Abu Ghraib. The stench of scores of corpses from years of war, occupations and sanctions still fills the air. The emotional trauma of drones still terrorizes children. The dreary, bleak future facing millions of displaced Afghani and Iraqi refugees still shakes our conscience. White phosphorus and depleted uranium’s effects on public health and the environment will last for generations to come. That the US eliminated one of its ex-agents and claimed it was not waging war on Islam while war criminals continue to hold power in Washington and Tel Aviv offers us no relief. We regret having spent the last decade begging for approval from the US mainstream, inviting US politicians to our conventions, having Ramadan iftars in the White House and embarrassing ourselves in a myriad of other ways. Now that OBL is finally dead, we look forward to freeing up the time we’d spent assuring everyone of our patriotism and swearing on the Qur’an that OBL did not represent us. We will no longer construct our discourse to sooth islamophobes’ racist anxieties. We will spend no more time emphasizing that OBL didn’t represent us than Christians assert that Obama, Clinton, Bush and Blair do not represent Christianity. Instead, we will work on more urgent matters than pursuing the material comforts of the American dream, such as ending the occupation of Afghanistan, ending the occupation of Iraq, boycotting and dismantling "Israel," closing Guantanamo, restoring civil liberties, ending US hegemony and racism. Signed, American Arab Anti Discrimination Committee, Arab American Institute, American Task Force for Palestine, Council on American-Islamic Relations, Islamic Society of North America, Park51 http://ikhras.com/2011/05/the-statement-house-arabs-and-house-muslims-never-released-about-obl/
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« Reply #644 on: May 04, 2011, 09:26:32 AM » |
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I came across this today and it might explain the timing of the roll out of the Death of Osama you know how they like to do things in a timely manner We all know hes been dead for years but these sick people will do anything to make their plan happen. They have been doing this for a long long time. http://darkstarastrology.com/osama-bin-laden-death-horoscope/ This is what caught my attention "The death of Osama bin Laden opens up space for the emergence of a new figure head for the Islamic world. This is what Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been referring to as the 12th Imam [4]. Revolutions and weakining of pro Westerm regimes in the Arab world provide fertile grounds for the rise of a new spiritual leader."
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« Reply #645 on: May 04, 2011, 09:32:48 AM » |
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^ ^ ^ ^ ... and besides .... they want us to believe that OSAMA was the LEADER of a worldwide, Nuke armed, Islamo-fascist network of TERRORISTS, operating out of that Ghetto Spider Hole with NO PHONES and NO COMPUTERS? HAAhhahahahHAHHHhhhhhaaaaa! 
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« Reply #646 on: May 04, 2011, 09:37:08 AM » |
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someone knew it before the president made the announcement:  I will only share the unedited version of this screen shot via PM. I don't want to be connected to this. But you can check on facebook and confirm this for yourself. this guy knew!
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« Reply #647 on: May 04, 2011, 10:47:50 AM » |
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Anyone notice that since OBL sunday, the stock market has taken a Dive and the VIX is up? Gold/Silver is caving... Fear of What? Is the fed pulling out of the market?
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« Reply #648 on: May 04, 2011, 11:01:15 AM » |
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This has probably been posted already, but this is clever. Only the BS is different! oSama death as Fake as oBama Birth Certificate http://youtu.be/PySosIeQz8M 
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« Reply #650 on: May 04, 2011, 01:03:06 PM » |
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This whole situation... distinctly reminds me of something.... http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/0.htmlThe next moment a hideous, grinding speech, as of some monstrous machine running without oil, burst from the big telescreen at the end of the room. It was a noise that set one's teeth on edge and bristled the hair at the back of one's neck. The Hate had started. As usual, the face of Emmanuel Goldstein, the Enemy of the People, had flashed on to the screen. There were hisses here and there among the audience. The little sandy-haired woman gave a squeak of mingled fear and disgust. Goldstein was the renegade and backslider who once, long ago (how long ago, nobody quite remembered), had been one of the leading figures of the Party, almost on a level with Big Brother himself, and then had engaged in counter-revolutionary activities, had been condemned to death, and had mysteriously escaped and disappeared. The programmes of the Two Minutes Hate varied from day to day, but there was none in which Goldstein was not the principal figure. He was the primal traitor, the earliest defiler of the Party's purity. All subsequent crimes against the Party, all treacheries, acts of sabotage, heresies, deviations, sprang directly out of his teaching. Somewhere or other he was still alive and hatching his conspiracies: perhaps somewhere beyond the sea, under the protection of his foreign paymasters, perhaps even -- so it was occasionally rumoured -- in some hiding-place in Oceania itself.Winston's diaphragm was constricted. He could never see the face of Goldstein without a painful mixture of emotions. It was a lean Jewish face, with a great fuzzy aureole of white hair and a small goatee beard -- a clever face, and yet somehow inherently despicable, with a kind of senile silliness in the long thin nose, near the end of which a pair of spectacles was perched. It resembled the face of a sheep, and the voice, too, had a sheep-like quality. Goldstein was delivering his usual venomous attack upon the doctrines of the Party -- an attack so exaggerated and perverse that a child should have been able to see through it, and yet just plausible enough to fill one with an alarmed feeling that other people, less level-headed than oneself, might be taken in by it. He was abusing Big Brother, he was denouncing the dictatorship of the Party, he was demanding the immediate conclusion of peace with Eurasia, he was advocating freedom of speech, freedom of the Press, freedom of assembly, freedom of thought, he was crying hysterically that the revolution had been betrayed -- and all this in rapid polysyllabic speech which was a sort of parody of the habitual style of the orators of the Party, and even contained Newspeak words: more Newspeak words, indeed, than any Party member would normally use in real life. And all the while, lest one should be in any doubt as to the reality which Goldstein's specious claptrap covered, behind his head on the telescreen there marched the endless columns of the Eurasian army -- row after row of solid-looking men with expressionless Asiatic faces, who swam up to the surface of the screen and vanished, to be replaced by others exactly similar. The dull rhythmic tramp of the soldiers' boots formed the background to Goldstein's bleating voice. Before the Hate had proceeded for thirty seconds, uncontrollable exclamations of rage were breaking out from half the people in the room. The self-satisfied sheep-like face on the screen, and the terrifying power of the Eurasian army behind it, were too much to be borne: besides, the sight or even the thought of Goldstein produced fear and anger automatically. He was an object of hatred more constant than either Eurasia or Eastasia, since when Oceania was at war with one of these Powers it was generally at peace with the other. But what was strange was that although Goldstein was hated and despised by everybody, although every day and a thousand times a day, on platforms, on the telescreen, in newspapers, in books, his theories were refuted, smashed, ridiculed, held up to the general gaze for the pitiful rubbish that they were in spite of all this, his influence never seemed to grow less. Always there were fresh dupes waiting to be seduced by him. A day never passed when spies and saboteurs acting under his directions were not unmasked by the Thought Police. He was the commander of a vast shadowy army, an underground network of conspirators dedicated to the overthrow of the State. The Brotherhood, its name was supposed to be. There were also whispered stories of a terrible book, a compendium of all the heresies, of which Goldstein was the author and which circulated clandestinely here and there. It was a book without a title. People referred to it, if at all, simply as the book. But one knew of such things only through vague rumours. Neither the Brotherhood nor the book was a subject that any ordinary Party member would mention if there was a way of avoiding it. In its second minute the Hate rose to a frenzy. People were leaping up and down in their places and shouting at the tops of their voices in an effort to drown the maddening bleating voice that came from the screen. The little sandy-haired woman had turned bright pink, and her mouth was opening and shutting like that of a landed fish. Even O'Brien's heavy face was flushed. He was sitting very straight in his chair, his powerful chest swelling and quivering as though he were standing up to the assault of a wave. The dark-haired girl behind Winston had begun crying out 'Swine! Swine! Swine!' and suddenly she picked up a heavy Newspeak dictionary and flung it at the screen. It struck Goldstein's nose and bounced off; the voice continued inexorably. In a lucid moment Winston found that he was shouting with the others and kicking his heel violently against the rung of his chair. The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but, on the contrary, that it was impossible to avoid joining in. Within thirty seconds any pretence was always unnecessary. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge-hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic. And yet the rage that one felt was an abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another like the flame of a blowlamp. Thus, at one moment Winston's hatred was not turned against Goldstein at all, but, on the contrary, against Big Brother, the Party, and the Thought Police; and at such moments his heart went out to the lonely, derided heretic on the screen, sole guardian of truth and sanity in a world of lies. And yet the very next instant he was at one with the people about him, and all that was said of Goldstein seemed to him to be true. At those moments his secret loathing of Big Brother changed into adoration, and Big Brother seemed to tower up, an invincible, fearless protector, standing like a rock against the hordes of Asia, and Goldstein, in spite of his isolation, his helplessness, and the doubt that hung about his very existence, seemed like some sinister enchanter, capable by the mere power of his voice of wrecking the structure of civilization. It was even possible, at moments, to switch one's hatred this way or that by a voluntary act. Suddenly, by the sort of violent effort with which one wrenches one's head away from the pillow in a nightmare, Winston succeeded in transferring his hatred from the face on the screen to the dark-haired girl behind him. Vivid, beautiful hallucinations flashed through his mind. He would flog her to death with a rubber truncheon. He would tie her naked to a stake and shoot her full of arrows like Saint Sebastian. He would ravish her and cut her throat at the moment of climax. Better than before, moreover, he realized why it was that he hated her. He hated her because she was young and pretty and sexless, because he wanted to go to bed with her and would never do so, because round her sweet supple waist, which seemed to ask you to encircle it with your arm, there was only the odious scarlet sash, aggressive symbol of chastity. The Hate rose to its climax. The voice of Goldstein had become an actual sheep's bleat, and for an instant the face changed into that of a sheep. Then the sheep-face melted into the figure of a Eurasian soldier who seemed to be advancing, huge and terrible, his sub-machine gun roaring, and seeming to spring out of the surface of the screen, so that some of the people in the front row actually flinched backwards in their seats. But in the same moment, drawing a deep sigh of relief from everybody, the hostile figure melted into the face of Big Brother, black-haired, black-moustachio'd, full of power and mysterious calm, and so vast that it almost filled up the screen. Nobody heard what Big Brother was saying. It was merely a few words of encouragement, the sort of words that are uttered in the din of battle, not distinguishable individually but restoring confidence by the fact of being spoken. Then the face of Big Brother faded away again, and instead the three slogans of the Party stood out in bold capitals: WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
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« Reply #651 on: May 04, 2011, 01:15:20 PM » |
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O'Brien's manner became less severe. He resettled his spectacles thoughtfully, and took a pace or two up and down. When he spoke his voice was gentle and patient. He had the air of a doctor, a teacher, even a priest, anxious to explain and persuade rather than to punish. "I am taking trouble with you, Winston," he said, "because you are worth trouble. You know perfectly well what is the matter with you. You have known it for years, though you have fought against the knowledge. You are mentally deranged. You suffer from a defective memory. You are unable to remember real events and you persuade yourself that you remember other events which never happened. Fortunately it is curable. You have never cured yourself of it, because you did not choose to. There was a small effort of the will that you were not ready to make. Even now, I am well aware, you are clinging to your disease under the impression that it is a virtue. Now we will take an example. At this moment, which power is Oceania at war with?" "When I was arrested, Oceania was at war with Eastasia." "With Eastasia. Good. And Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia, has it not?" Winston drew in his breath. He opened his mouth to speak and then did not speak. He could not take his eyes away from the dial. "The truth, please, Winston. Your truth. Tell me what you think you remember." "I remember that until only a week before I was arrested, we were not at war with Eastasia at all. We were in alliance with them. The war was against Eurasia. That had lasted for four years. Before that --" O'Brien stopped him with a movement of the hand. "Another example," he said. "Some years ago you had a very serious delusion indeed. You believed that three men, three one-time Party members named Jones, Aaronson, and Rutherford--men who were executed for treachery and sabotage after making the fullest possible confession--were not guilty of the crimes they were charged with. You believed that you had seen unmistakable documentary evidence proving that their confessions were false. There was a certain photograph about which you had a hallucination. You believed that you had actually held it in your hands. It was a photograph something like this." An oblong slip of newspaper had appeared between O'Brien's fingers. For perhaps five seconds it was within the angle of Winston's vision. It was a photograph, and there was no question of its identity. It was the photograph. It was another copy of the photograph of Jones, Aaronson, and Rutherford at the party function in New York, which he had chanced upon eleven years ago and promptly destroyed. For only an instant it was before his eyes, then it was out of sight again. But he had seen it, unquestionably he had seen it!.... "It exists!" he cried. "No," said O'Brien. He stepped across the room. There was a memory hole in the opposite wall. O'Brien lifted the grating. Unseen, the frail slip of paper was whirling away on the current of warm air; it was vanishing in a flash of flame. O'Brien turned away from the wall. "Ashes," he said. "Not even identifiable ashes. Dust. It does not exist. It never existed." "But it did exist! It does exist! It exists in memory. I remember it. You remember it." "I do not remember it," said O'Brien. Winston's heart sank. That was doublethink. He had a feeling of deadly helplessness. If he could have been certain that O'Brien was lying, it would not have seemed to matter. But it was perfectly possible that O'Brien had really forgotten the photograph. And if so, then already he would have forgotten his denial of remembering it, and forgotten the act of forgetting. How could one be sure that it was simple trickery? Perhaps that lunatic dislocation in the mind could really happen: that was the thought that defeated him. O'Brien was looking down at him speculatively. More than ever he had the air of a teacher taking pains with a wayward but promising child. "There is a Party slogan dealing with the control of the past," he said. "Repeat it, if you please." "'Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past,'" repeated Winston obediently. "'Who controls the present controls the past,'" said O'Brien, nodding his head with slow approval. "Is it your opinion, Winston, that the past has real existence?" Again the feeling of helplessness descended upon Winston. His eyes flitted towards the dial. He not only did not know whether "yes" or "no" was the answer that would save him from pain; he did not even know which answer he believed to be the true one. O'Brien smiled faintly. "You are no metaphysician, Winston," he said. "Until this moment you had never considered what is meant by existence. I will put it more precisely. Does the past exist concretely, in space? Is there somewhere or other a place, a world of solid objects, where the past is still happening?" "No." "Then where does the past exist, if at all?" "In records. It is written down." "In records. And --?" "In the mind. In human memories." "In memory. Very well, then. We, the Party, control all records, and we control all memories. Then we control the past, do we not?" "But how can you stop people remembering things?" cried Winston again momentarily forgetting the dial. "It is involuntary. It is outside oneself. How can you control memory? You have not controlled mine!" O'Brien's manner grew stern again. He laid his hand on the dial. "On the contrary," he said, " you have not controlled it. That is what has brought you here. You are here because you have failed in humility, in self-discipline. You would not make the act of submission which is the price of sanity. You preferred to be a lunatic, a minority of one. Only the disciplined mind can see reality, Winston. You believe that reality is something objective, external, existing in its own right. You also believe that the nature of reality is self-evident. When you delude yourself into thinking that you see something, you assume that everyone else sees the same thing as you. But I tell you, Winston, that reality is not external. Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else. Not in the individual mind, which can make mistakes, and in any case soon perishes; only in the mind of the Party, which is collective and immortal. Whatever the Party holds to be the truth is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party. That is the fact that you have got to relearn, Winston. It needs an act of self-destruction, an effort of the will. You must humble yourself before you can become sane." All the beliefs, habits, tastes, emotions, mental attitudes that characterize our time are really designed to sustain the mystique of the Party and prevent the true nature of present-day society from being perceived. Physical rebellion, or any preliminary move towards rebellion, is at present not possible. From the proletarians nothing is to be feared. Left to themselves, they will continue from generation to generation and from century to century, working, breeding, and dying, not only without any impulse to rebel, but without the power of grasping that the world could be other than it is....What opinions the masses hold, or do not hold, is looked on as a matter of indifference. They can be granted intellectual liberty because they have no intellect.
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« Reply #653 on: May 05, 2011, 07:52:08 AM » |
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Middle East May 6, 2011 http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/ME06Ak01.html THE ROVING EYE Welcome to the post-Osama world By Pepe Escobar To follow Pepe's articles on the Great Arab Revolt, please click here. http://atimes.com/atimes/others/Pepe2011.htmlUnited States President Barack Obama, riding high in the polls, his re-election virtually assured, is now free to bask in the glow of his all-American victory in the global "war on terror", which his administration had rechristened "overseas contingency operations" (OCO). The Osama Bin Laden hit on Monday was indeed an OCO - a swift, overseas "kinetic military action" surmounting innumerable contingencies such as the violation of the aerial space of a theoretically sovereign nation. Yet US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's first reaction was to stress the "war on terror" in fact goes on forever, true to the spirit of the Pentagon's own slogan, "The Long War". That applies especially to the ultra-strategic AfPak theater. It's as if commander-in-chief Obama could not but be a regal prisoner in a labyrinth not of his own making. The White House's move to break out of the labyrinth was to paradoxically go ballistic and seal the death of the 9/11 trauma, capitalized by the George W Bush administration as a license to kill evil - be it in itself or in the form of an axis - and thus affirm Jeffersonian freedom. From 2001 to 2008, those were the years when the hyperpower - on a mission from God and focused as a laser on a Hegel/Fukuyama "end of history" - simply trampled over international law. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were supposed to be only the first two stops on the way to redemption (then there would be the road to Damascus, Tehran and even Tripoli ...) What was christened as The Greater Middle East project was supposed to smash "terror" and the regimes that sheltered it; the Taliban Afghanistan and - in the neo-con vision - Saddamist Iraq. Others would inevitably fall like dominoes. Almost a decade after 9/11 - and with the Bush "dead or alive" promise finally fulfilled Terminator-style - where does the former hyperpower goes next? The strategic chessboard has completely changed. It's hard to exercise hyperpower hegemony when you know China will overtake you as the world's number one economy, possibly as soon as 2016 - and when you're drowning in debt to, who else, strategic competitor China. Yet you're still overextended military, and your never-ending "war on terror", not to mention two-and-a-half wars, are costing trillions of dollars, paid up by, who else, your top banker China. Your soft power is not as seductive as it used to be - although your hi-tech creativity is still matchless; and most of all nobody in the developing world, starting with the BRICS group, gives any credence to your Washington Consensus anymore. And the winner is ... China So for now the winner of the "war on terror" is China, which for a number of reasons, paramount among them the Deng Xiaoping motto "to get rich is glorious", is now close to the point where it was for 18 of the past 20 centuries, that is, on top. Obama may be accused of many things - including of being a Nobel Peace Prize warmonger. But he's also a smart intellectual. The president has surveyed the landscape and has seen how America's Paul Kennedy-diagnosed imperial overextension has accelerated its decline. And he also has seen how in the process the US was totally corroded by the specter of "Islamic terror". And that may lead us to the answer of the magic bullet question about the timing of the Bin Laden hit. When 9/11 happened, music genius Karlheinz Stockhausen said - to the outrage of millions of Americans - that "this was the greatest work of art the world has ever seen." He had a point as 9/11 - in terms of its impact upon the collective unconscious of mankind, almost to the point of paralysis - reduced Albert Speer's and Leni Riefenstahl's specials to child's play. So to symbolically kill the "war on terror" - which was invented because of 9/11 - Obama had to (literally) kill the (alleged) perpetrator, be it real or not, guilty or not, a clone or not. Thus the hit, the swift disposal of the body, no photos, end of the movie, no credits rolling; a tight cinematic narrative. The obvious holes in the plot, as in any Hollywood blockbuster, are deemed irrelevant; what matters is success at the box-office - and we move on. Like a basketball-playing Freudian, Obama went for the kill, the reason of the whole trauma. He identified it as the only way to start anew - as in trying to end the wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq and start concentrating on what really matters for the US; investments in education and infrastructure, the dire state of the economy. There's no guarantee Obama's "cure" will work. Millions of Americans may - and are - feeling the boost, as if the whole country ingested a tsunami of Red Bull. The key question is whether jihadism will disappear for good from the current geopolitical landscape. In fact even before the Bin Laden hit it had already been defeated by history - as in the great 2011 Arab revolt affirming, unequivocally, the Arab world's will to welcome democracy, not suicide bombers. Obama's "cure" will face monstrous contradictions. Drones kill civilians in the Pakistani tribal areas while the North Atlantic Treaty Organization's "humanitarian" war kills civilians in Libya. Humanitarian warmongers silent in the face of the appalling repression in Bahrain and the House of Saud getting away with conducting an anti-democracy counter-revolution all across the Persian Gulf. If Bin Laden - and Muammar Gaddafi - may be selected for diplomacy by targeted assassination, why not the ghastly dictatorship in Myanmar, or Islam Karimov in Uzbekistan? Moreover, the Pentagon will keep fighting with all its might to keep its Long War going on forever. Obama the psychoanalyst has just baptized a new, post-Osama world. Let's see how America reacts, or if it's soon back to the couch. Pepe Escobar is the author of Globalistan: How the Globalized World is Dissolving into Liquid War (Nimble Books, 2007) and Red Zone Blues: a snapshot of Baghdad during the surge. His new book, just out, is Obama does Globalistan (Nimble Books, 2009). He may be reached at pepeasia@yahoo.com. http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/ME06Ak01.html
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« Reply #654 on: May 05, 2011, 08:25:18 AM » |
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The Agendas Behind the Bin Laden News Event
By Paul Craig Roberts http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28029.htmMay 04, 2011 "Information Clearing House" -- The US government’s bin Laden story was so poorly crafted that it did not last 48 hours before being fundamentally altered. Indeed, the new story put out on Tuesday by White House press secretary Jay Carney bears little resemblance to the original Sunday evening story. The fierce firefight did not occur. Osama bin Laden did not hide behind a woman. Indeed, bin Laden, Carney said, “was not armed.” The firefight story was instantly suspicious as not a single SEAL got a scratch, despite being up against al Qaeda, described by former Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld as ‘the most dangerous, best-trained, vicious killers on the face of the earth.” http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=43817 Every original story detail has been changed. It wasn’t bin Laden’s wife who was murdered by the Navy SEALs , but the wife of an aide. It wasn’t bin Laden’s son, Khalid, who was murdered by the Navy SEALs, but son Hamza. Carney blamed the changed story on “the fog of war.” But there was no firefight, so where did the “fog of war” come from? The White House has also had to abandon the story that President Obama and his national security team watched tensely as events unfolded in real time (despite the White House having released photos of the team watching tensely), with the operation conveyed into the White House by cameras on the SEALs helmets. If Obama was watching the event as it happened, he would have noticed, one would hope, that there was no firefight and, thus, would not have told the public that bin Laden was killed in a firefight. Another reason the story had to be abandoned is that if the event was captured on video, every news service in the world would be asking for the video, but if the event was orchestrated theater, there would be no video. No explanation has been provided for why an unarmed bin Laden, in the absence of a firefight, was murdered by the SEALs with a shot to the head. For those who believe the government’s story that “we got bin Laden,” the operation can only appear as the most botched operation in history. What kind of incompetence does it require to senselessly and needlessly kill the most valuable intelligence asset on the planet? According to the US government, the terrorist movements of the world operated through bin Laden, “the mastermind.” Thanks to a trigger-happy stupid SEAL, a bullet destroyed the most valuable terrorist information on the planet. Perhaps the SEAL was thinking that he could put a notch on his gun and brag for the rest of his life about being the macho tough guy who killed Osama bin Laden, the most dangerous man on the planet, who outwitted the US and its European and Israeli allies and inflicted humiliation on the “world’s only superpower” on 9/11. When such a foundational story as the demise of bin Laden cannot last 48 hours without acknowledged “discrepancies” that require fundamental alternations to the story, there are grounds for suspicion in addition to the suspicions arising from the absence of a dead body, from the absence of any evidence that bin Laden was killed in the raid or that a raid even took place. The entire episode could just be another event like the August 4, 1964, Gulf of Tonkin event that never happened but succeeded in launching open warfare against North Vietnam at a huge cost to Americans and Vietnamese and enormous profits to the military/security complex. There is no doubt that the US is sufficiently incompetent to have needlessly killed bin Laden instead of capturing him. But who can believe that the US would quickly dispose of the evidence that bin Laden had been terminated? The government’s story is not believable that the government dumped the proof of its success into the ocean, but has some photos that might be released, someday. As one reader put it in an email to me: “What is really alarming is the increasingly arrogant sloppiness of these lies, as though the government has become so profoundly confident of their ability to deceive people that they make virtually no effort to even appear credible.” Governments have known from the beginning of time that they can always deceive citizens and subjects by playing the patriot card. “Remember the Maine,” the “Gulf of Tonkin,” “weapons of mass destruction,” “the Reichstag fire”--the staged events and bogus evidence are endless. If Americans knew any history, they would not be so gullible. The real question before us is: What agenda or agendas is the “death of bin Laden” designed to further? There are many answers to this question. Many have noticed that Obama was facing re-election with poor approval ratings. Is anyone surprised that the New York Times/CBS Poll finds a strong rise in Obama’s poll numbers after the bin Laden raid? As the New York Times reported, “the glow of national pride” rose “above partisan politics, as support for the president rose significantly among both Republicans and independents. In all, 57 percent said they now approved of the president’s job performance, up from 46 percent.” In Washington-think, a 24% rise in approval rating justifies a staged event. Another possibility is that Obama realized that the the budget deficit and the dollar’s rescue from collapse require the end of the expensive Afghan war and occupation and spillover war into Pakistan. As the purpose of the war was to get bin Laden, success in this objective allows the US to withdraw without loss of face, thus making it possible to reduce the US budget deficit by several hundred billion dollars annually--an easy way to have a major spending cut. If this is the agenda, then more power to it. However, if this was Obama’s agenda, the military/security complex has quickly moved against it. CIA director Leon Panetta opened the door to false flag attacks to keep the war going by declaring that al Qaeda would avenge bin Laden’s killing. Secretary of State Clinton declared that success in killing bin Laden justified more war and more success. Homeland Security declared that the killing of bin Laden would motivate “homegrown violent extremists” into making terrorist attacks. “Homegrown violent extremists” is an undefined term, but this newly created bogyman seems to include environmentalists and war protesters. Like “suspect,” the term will include anyone the government wants to pick up. Various parts of the government quickly seized on the success in killing bin Laden to defend and advance their own agendas, such as torture. Americans were told that bin Laden was found as a result of information gleaned from torturing detainees held in Eastern European CIA secret prisons years ago. This listing of possible agendas and add-on agendas is far from complete, but for those capable of skepticism and independent thought, it can serve as a starting point. The agendas behind the theater will reveal themselves as time goes on. All you have to do is to pay attention and to realize that most of what you hear from the mainstream media is designed to advance the agendas http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28029.htm
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« Reply #655 on: May 05, 2011, 08:31:30 AM » |
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TALKS ABOUT OBL'S PICTURES CONTINUE........AND OBAMA HAS STATED WILL NOT SHOW.......
WHAT NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IS THE VIDEO FOOTAGE THAT OBAMA, HILLARY, GATES ET AL WERE WATCHING LIVE IN THE SITUATION ROOM..........
THEY STATED THAT THEY WATCHED IT ALL LIVE..........
WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS FOOTAGE...................RIGHT 
WE SHOULD CAMPAIGN TO FORCE GOVERMENMT TO RELEASE SAME.........HUH ? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8493391/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-Blackout-during-raid-on-bin-Laden-compound.htmlThe head of the CIA admitted yesterday that there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound as further doubts emerged about the US version of events.
Leon Panetta, director of the CIA, revealed there was a 25 minute blackout during which the live feed from cameras mounted on the helmets of the US special forces was cut off.
A photograph released by the White House appeared to show the President and his aides in the situation room watching the action as it unfolded. In fact they had little knowledge of what was happening in the compound.
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« Reply #656 on: May 05, 2011, 08:33:31 AM » |
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'Fog of War' My Ass:
White House and CIA Caught in a Lie about Osama Bin Laden Assassinationby Dave LindorffBlood is seen on the floor of a room in bin Laden's compound / AP This Can't Be Happening , May 4, 2011 http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/594In the end they couldn't get away with it. As I noted back on Monday in my first article on the Sunday Navy SEAL raid into Pakistan that killed Osama Bin Laden, President Obama himself spilled the beans in his initial midnight statement, when he said, "After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body." After that perhaps unintentionally honest account of an execution, the lies began, with White House chief counter-terrorism advisor (great title huh?) John O. Brennan fabulating that Bin Laden had "engaged in a firefight" with the SEALs who "entered the area of the house he was in," and adding, "Whether or not he got off any rounds, I frankly don't know." Then there were the lies that Bin Laden had shamefully used his wife as a "human shield," that he had been armed with an assault rifle, etc. In the end, the truth came out. There had been no fire-fight at all with Bin Laden. The 79 (!) Navy SEALs who assaulted the compound (originally we were told "two dozen") were resisted by a total of four men, with no reports that the women and children who comprised the rest of the residents of the compound offered any armed resistance at all (unless you count Bin Laden's unarmed wife who allegedly "charged" the men entering the bedroom, and unless you count her actual arms as "arms"). By the time the assault team members had reached Bin Laden's third-floor boudoire, the entire compound had reportedly been secured, with every one of the residents either dead or bound up and cuffed, and most of the team was busy packing up computers, hard drives and other potential evidence to be stowed on the escape helicopters. The cornered Bin Laden was, at that point, simply executed with two shots to the forehead. SEAL Team VI, the ultimate American kill team There was, as I correctly surmised from the available evidence on Monday, no attempt at all made to capture him alive. The only thing missing from the assault narrative at this point is an admission from the White House that in fact the goal of the mission was precisely to kill Bin Laden, and then make him vanish. The fabricated story of his resistance and his cowardly hiding behind a wife was a Jessica Lynch-style fable that fell apart faster than a popping balloon, with the White House attributing the whoppers to "the fog of war." Try the foghorn of propaganda. My guess is that the White House had no choice but to come clean. Photos of the bedroom airing on Pakistani television on Monday showed that it had been barely disturbed by the confrontation. There were no bullet holes in walls. The clear glass windows were unbroken. The arch-villain's waterbed had suffered no leaks. There wasn't even much blood to be seen on the floor. The scene certainly was not what you'd have seen had there been a "firefight" in the enclosed space. I mean, if bullets had been fired at the American room invaders, there would either have been wounded men or damaged walls or windows. There was neither. We have to then assume that the goal here was target termination. And then we are left to wonder why? As I noted earlier, Bin Laden was the central figure in Al Qaeda. Even if he wasn't the actual planner of terrorist actions himself, he was the paymaster and fundraiser for the group. Without question, had he been bundled up in an orange jumpsuit, or in diapers with a plug up his butt, and carted away to Bagram Air Base or Guantanamo or one of the many CIA black sites and subjected to the "permissible" forms of "enhanced interrogation" allowed by Presidential executive order, he would likely have revealed a wealth of invaluable information that could have been used to destroy the organization. So why was he not captured alive? According to the latest White House line--this time from CIA Director and soon-to-be Secretary of Defense (sic) Leon Panetta--the reason Bin Laden was executed was that he made "some threatening moves" that "clearly represented a clear threat to our guys. And that's the reason they fired." Hmm. "Our guys" in this case were the most dangerous bunch of trained killers in the US military, armed to the teeth and extensively trained in lethal martial arts. And we're asked to believe they felt mortally threatened by an unarmed man known to have been sickly and never particularly good at martial skills. So what kind of "threatening move" could he have made? Did he shake his fist at them? Give them the finger? Try to throw a punch?" It hardly matters. If these American supermen had wanted to capture him, or if they had been ordered to capture him, they had the manpower in the room to do it, even if he did bite and kick and insult them. My guess is that a living, breathing, walking, talking captive Osama Bin Laden was the last thing President Obama wanted. Hell, he didn't even want a dead Osama Bin Laden around. Hence the quick "burial" at sea. When all the hoopla and jingoism dies down, this whole affair will be seen as one of the most outrageous acts of duplicity and propaganda in the long history of American militarism. http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/594
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« Reply #657 on: May 05, 2011, 08:43:06 AM » |
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Did Osama Bin Laden Win the "War on Terror" ?
By Joshua Holland, AlterNet Perhaps we should stop cheering for our "success." Posted on May 4, 2011, Printed on May 5, 2011 http://www.alternet.org/story/150842/did_osama_bin_laden_win_the_%22war_on_terror%22We now have conflicting accounts of Osama bin Laden's death at the hands of a U.S. special forces team in a tony Pakistani suburb this week. President Obama, in his address to the nation Sunday night, painted a picture of a perfectly clean, morally unambiguous operation: he said the U.S. was prepared to take the terror leader alive, but a major firefight ensued and, after trying to use his wife as a human shield, bin Laden went down with guns blazing. The White House “revised” several key details of the raid in the following days. Bin Laden wasn't armed after all (he still “resisted,” officials say, although it's unclear how one resists a heavily armed special forces team without a weapon), and he didn't use a human shield. One official told CNN that there were no armed guards at the compound, another told Reuters that the Navy Seals team had been ordered to kill rather than capture bin Laden and NBC news reported that nobody fired a shot at the SEALs. Bin Laden's daughter, who was present during the raid, said that U.S. forces first captured their quarry alive and then executed him. We don't know what happened that night. But we should at least acknowledge that there were any number of reasons why dumping bin Laden's corpse in the ocean would have been seen as far less problematic than taking him alive. What, exactly, would they have done with him? The International Criminal Court can only consider cases committed after 2001, and trying him in a domestic court with its evidentiary procedures was never an option. He could have been tried by military commission, but that process hasn't been widely accepted as legitimate. On the margins, there has been some debate about the morality – and legality -- of such a “kill team” operation, but most Americans, understandably, couldn't care less. Even if we did assassinate him, so what? Bin Laden was a mass murderer, the bastard got his just rewards, and the U.S. government proved it could still accomplish a major national goal. The country got closure for the attacks of 9/11, and perhaps could now begin to wind down its “war on terror.” That discussion has overlooked an important question, however. Setting aside the moral and legal implications, and our visceral, emotional satisfaction at seeing an outlaw shot down, would the decision to kill rather than capture him have been in the best interests of the U.S. and the international fight against terrorism? I would argue that it would not have been – that, in fact, the reverse would hold true. Osama bin Laden is widely seen to have become a figurehead without direct operational command of the organization he founded. His importance, at this point in time, was largely symbolic. He served as an inspiration for extremists around the globe. Had he a choice in the matter, I have no doubt that he would have wanted nothing more than to die in a hail of gunfire by foreign troops in a predominantly Muslim country, a martyr to his cause, rather than rot away in a military prison, aging poorly and providing living proof that the world's most prominent terrorist – a figure who had been elevated to an existential threat – was ultimately impotent in the face of the world's greatest super-power. Martyrdom has always been a powerful inspiration for others. I certainly don't blame Americans for rejoicing in the news of bin Laden's death, but we may have given him the exact ending he would have wanted, and, in doing so, we may have inspired others to follow his path to a “glorious” expiration. This, again, is entirely speculative so long as the details of the raid remain obscure. But it mirrors another argument that is not so: that Osama bin Laden's attacks provoked the U.S. into a disastrous over-reaction – drawing it into an unwinnable and often hellish ground-war in Afghanistan and ultimately costing us thousands of American lives, trillions of dollars in national wealth, an enormous amount of international prestige and, more importantly, influence over global affairs. That argument was ably sketched out this week by Ezra Klein of the Washington Post, based on an interview he conducted with Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, the Director of the Center for the Study of Terrorist Radicalization at the neoconservative Foundation for Defense of Democracies. As Klein put it, Gartenstein-Ross thinks bin Laden “had a strategy that we never bothered to understand, and thus that we never bothered to defend against.” His goal was not some fantasy about establishing a worldwide caliphate or imposing “Sharia law” on Greenwich Village; having seen the Soviet Union decline in large part by bankrupting itself in an arms race with the U.S., with a huge assist from the Mujahadeen fighting them in Afghanistan, his objective was to wage economic war against the United States by drawing it into a similar conflict. MUCH MORE http://www.alternet.org/story/150842/did_osama_bin_laden_win_the_%22war_on_terror%22?akid=6922.127567.Bc1GiV&rd=1&t=2
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« Reply #658 on: May 05, 2011, 08:51:50 AM » |
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Bin Laden Story Continues to ChangeWhite House Touts "Highly Volatile Firefight" With an Unarmed, Sickly Manby Jason Ditz, May 04, 2011 The culmination of years of surveillance, with Navy SEALs bursting into a residence and engaging in an epic firefight with the world’s most wanted terrorist (hiding behind his wife and armed with an AK-47) in his palatial estate certainly makes for good copy, and movie studios were already lining up to turn it into feature films. The only problem was it never happened. MORE http://news.antiwar.com/2011/05/04/bin-laden-story-continues-to-change/
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« Reply #661 on: May 05, 2011, 09:25:27 AM » |
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Anyone notice that on Sunday/Monday the MSM were (cnn at least) spelling OSAMA -> USAMA ?
Like USA-MA ? And purposely pronouning it U-sama
Now they are back to OSAMA? pronouncing OH-sama ??
How freaking strange is that? That and the "Obama is dead".. uh... "Usama is dead" flubs???
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« Reply #663 on: May 05, 2011, 11:36:34 AM » |
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Anyone notice that on Sunday/Monday the MSM were (cnn at least) spelling OSAMA -> USAMA ?
Like USA-MA ? And purposely pronouning it U-sama
Now they are back to OSAMA? pronouncing OH-sama ??
How freaking strange is that? That and the "Obama is dead".. uh... "Usama is dead" flubs???
Fox has since 911 used the FBI spelling. Go to our favorite FBI most wanted poster of bin laden that we use to show they didn't charge him for 9/11 and you'll see USAMA. CNN and MSNBC don't and go with Osama cause they didn't want to keep answering the same question you are asking and that they didn't want the USA in the name.
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« Reply #664 on: May 05, 2011, 11:51:08 AM » |
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SAUDI READERS ARE NOT BUYING IT!AMAZING! Almost all woken up to this!!!Possibly deserving it's own thread or pp article... I've never seen so many people like this on one comment page. Read the comments in the most popular Saudi Daily (Arab News) over this: http://arabnews.com/world/osama_bin_laden/article380327.ece?comments=all#comments Comments43 CommentsPost your commentRead allSYEDEJAZ May 3, 2011 03:01 Yes off course Americans have only cameras to show coverage of cats and dogs but I dont know how they are not showing video footage of Bin Ladens body. This is game by Obama as his elections are on the way. SEEKERMay 3, 2011 10:38 Speedy burial in the light of islamic traditions. When did the US (read Christians) start caring about Islamic rulings. If so, then his body should have been handed over to his family & then Funeral Prayers would be prayedo ver him & then buried in a Muslim Graveyard. Yes, he was not following the Islamic way, he was a Terrorist, but he was still a Muslim. He would have been execuated nevertheless if caught in KSA but still buried with respect. for the dead don't react. And by the way, i personally think that the freezers weren't able to preserve his decomposing body anymore. Hence, no proper images or videos even i nthis in this advanced age of technology. And how do you just simply firefight with heavy machinery loaded helicopters. JUNAID May 3, 2011 11:42 the rule in islamic law regarding burial at sea could only take place if a person was travelling on a ship and he suddenly died and also if it would be a few days to get to the nearest mainland to bury him. YUSUFMay 3, 2011 13:23 It clearly shows the game played by America as we know Osama Binladin is very old and if we consider they killed him and i am sure he is too old to do anything and as far as i know binladin could have died long time back and they got a final confirmation on that and played this game ABIDMay 3, 2011 13:25 It is totally a fake. If anyone looks carefully the photo in question one would find that the beard sported in the photo is quite thick & black but actually oflate much of his beard turned grey. It is a bad work of Photoshop. If he was hit in the head then why would his eyes get damaged, not possible? We are not convinced Mr. Obama. No video footage, no public display, not even buried in the ground, these are the things which point to suspicion; something fishy. If it was genuine you would have boasted by showing to the general public. Only fools will believe this and not people like us. TAMEEM May 3, 2011 13:27 The Media even showed the sentence of Great Saddam Hussan and the hanging was broadcasted live on TV ... Why is it that this was not shown on TV ... Something to thnk over... MORPHEUSMay 3, 2011 13:33 US is a big state actor. They can play lot of such games. NAJMMay 3, 2011 13:33 Its a Pure Political Game! Pictures shown above is clearly resembling the Photoshop artwork. They need to close the 10 Years old failure file in Pentagon, to feed the normal people brain with cheer and relief from Terror. Soon I heard the news of his killing, my instinct said its a Great Lie. When they captured Saddam they showed each and every clip of his capture till he get hanged. How come they simply burried OSAMA in sea without showing a single second clip. TUNEDMay 3, 2011 13:41 At last Super Power is changing the hero . Whos or whats next? AYSHAMay 3, 2011 13:42 Obama you are a shame, stop fooling your own people. Show the video of the so called 'Islamic Sea Burial'. This man or who ever killed on 2 May is clearly not Bin Laden. MADZMay 3, 2011 13:52 its a big fake picture SA QURESHI May 3, 2011 13:56 Bin Laden's beard turned white more than 10 years ago where as the one killed in Pakistan has still a black beard. The 2 photograph show a sharp contrast in one the beard is long and in another one short. It appears there is a confusion amongst them who released the photograph.The mouth is open in both the pictures on extreme right & left, moustache & beard are the same even the dental arrangment the same but the one in the center there is space in upper front teeth.The center photograph shows a nasal bleed while the other one is without nasal bleed. ROSEMay 3, 2011 14:00 This whole fiansco is such a joke.. You cannot keep lies forever.. Its all unraveling as the hours go by.. so now we realize the fake photo.. Where is the real proof USA? What lies and photos are you going to pawn off on the world now?.. It would be so funny if in a few months the real Bin Laden makes an appearance MARKMay 3, 2011 14:02 unidentified bloodied man was a U.S. prisoner at Abu Ghraib killed during a CIA contracted interrogation. MASOODMay 3, 2011 14:40 Yes of course, American Government consists of intelligent people. They know exactly what to produce and when to do that. In reality Americans are the most stupid of all the human race. They just believe blindly what their government says.
If Osama was dead, his corpse should have been viewed in public. Where is the body? Buried at sea? Does the Obama administration really expects everyone to believe that?
American government has been making a fool of everyone and will keep doing so. And our intelligent civilians will never even utter a word... Good example of a democracy... ERRICAMay 3, 2011 14:41 I'm American and as soon as I heard the news I could not believe it. Something is off here and in Obama's speech it sounded like he was making a platform to make another invasion in Pakistan. This scares me because this borders Iran,.. things do not look good. I cannot speak out where I live and yet I know what we look like to the rest of the world parading around and gloating in Bin Laden's "Death." . It is disgusting and outrageous this lie they are trying to sell us to get us to support another one of THEIR GREEDY wars, and I can do nothing but watch this progress. MORPHEUS (R)May 3, 2011 14:43 Obama learning the art of deception from JW Bush
what about Obamas fake birth certificate. oh thats why.
perfect timing old man.
Why not try to capture him alive if they knew of the hideout (rem saddam)
Why shoot him in the head and dump the body in the sea (which one?)without taking any pictures
How convinient.
Where are his belongings, his stashed up cash etc etc AHMEDMay 3, 2011 20:32 It is not easily digestable to hear that the body of Osama Bin Laden is disposed off so quickly. Something is being hidden. Sure ILLANGOMay 3, 2011 21:15 Lets see a detailed video footage like that of the Sri Lankan Terrorist leader Prabakharan when he was killed. RONMay 3, 2011 21:19 [color=redHow come the CIA couldnt get a better graphic artist? BINLADEN[/color] May 3, 2011 21:20 Osama Bin Laden Killed by Photoshop AJIT May 3, 2011 21:28 So Morpheus is looking for stashed cash. Old Pakistani traits. NOT AMUSEDMay 4, 2011 23:41 The whole "event" is like an episode of a soap opera. The viewers are hooked on for the next telecast! The world needs to know if he was alive before he was killed and also if they "buried" the same person they killed. The pictures don't prove anything. ABDULLAHMay 5, 2011 02:07 Economically America is postponing the inevitable. The purported killing of Osama is quite strategic. I wont be surprised if his deputy too is liquidated at an opportune moment. Even if another thousand Muslims are killed under the pretext of war on terror the total collapse of the American economy cannot be averted. Its undeniable these opportunities provide much needed respite. Immediately after the killing all markets improved significantly. Eyes on the markets and finger on the trigger strategy will continue till the last day.
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05/05/2011 08:30 AM Few Facts, Lots of ImaginationBin Laden's Death Fuels Conspiracy TheoriesBy Yassin Musharbash and Hasnain Kazim in Berlin and Abbottabad, Pakistan Images of Osama bin Laden are displayed for sale at a roadside in Karachi, Pakistan on May 4 The confusion over the details of Osama bin Laden's death has prompted wild speculation and a slew of conspiracy theories. Many Pakistanis believe the al-Qaida leader was not actually living in Abbottabad, while some jihadists are claiming the Americans buried Osama at sea because they had defiled his body. The citizens of Abbottabad have a lot of questions these days. Was Osama bin Laden truly ambushed and killed in their midst? Was it really the world's public enemy number one, hunted down with great effort and expense, who had been living in their city? And if so, had he been living there for "five to six years" as the White House is now claiming? "Impossible," says Zubair Gul, who lives a few hundred meters from the house where a US Navy Seals team killed bin Laden. Gul finds it hard to believe that the terrorist leader was killed here. "Abbottabad is in a valley, and you immediately hear every helicopter that flies by. Who can possibly believe that bin Laden was sitting in his house and had no idea that the helicopters were coming?" Gul, a German citizen, runs two restaurants in Damme near Osnabrück in northern Germany. Originally from Peshawar, he moved to Abbottabad with his German wife in 1998, "because of the good climate and because things were always peaceful here," as he says. The shots that were heard on Sunday night and the ensuing explosion have destroyed this image. Nazar Abbasi, a pharmacist in Abbottabad, says that he was pleased about the news that bin Laden was dead. But then he was surprised that no photos of the body were released as evidence, and that fake photos were circulating instead. "And when I heard that the Americans had thrown the body in the sea, I knew that all of this was just a big show." Many in Abbottabad agree with Gul and Abbasi. It's all because US President Barack Obama is running for reelection, people there say. On top of that, they add, the US wanted to harm Pakistan's image. People in this garrison town find it impossible to believe that the Pakistani government knew nothing about the planned raid or may even have helped bin Laden. "Our army and our intelligence service can't be that stupid," says Maqbool Shah, a merchant. "No, it was clearly not bin Laden." Questions about the Course of Events Or maybe it was indeed bin Laden, but the way the raid on the compound was carried out was very different to how it had been described. On Wednesday, the Al-Arabiya television network reported that a 12-year-old girl, supposedly a daughter of bin Laden, had said that her father was captured alive and then shot. The girl claimed to have been present when the building was stormed. The network's source was an unnamed Pakistani intelligence officer. Given that the ultimate evidence of the death of the al-Qaida leader has not been provided, and that Washington has already had to correct its initial statements on the question of whether bin Laden was armed, speculation is now running rampant. And the conspiracy theorists are loving it. MORE http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,760742,00.html#ref=nlint
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« Reply #666 on: May 05, 2011, 12:54:05 PM » |
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Obama’s Killing Spree
by Margaret Kimberley Illustration by Mike Fluggenock. Find much more of his work at sinkers.org BAR, May 4, 2011 http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/freedom-rider-obama%E2%80%99s-killing-spreeObama is certainly living the thug life, an international gangster without parallel. What is to lesser humans a planet is, to Obama, a spherical theater of war, a free-fire zone. With two more notches in his gun, the First Black President is ensuring that Black Americans will be viewed as just another brand of ugly, violent Americans set loose on the world. And "the Peace Prize winner will once again give a lofty, well written speech about why it makes no sense to be peaceful." "Extrajudicial killing is now the rule, and not the exception for the United States." Barack Obama was trying for a double homicide this weekend. He hoped to kill both Muammar Gaddafi and Osama bin Laden in one fell swoop. Bin Laden’s luck ran out, but Gaddafi used up another of his nine lives and survives while his son and three of his grandchildren are dead, killed in a NATO attack on their home. The United States government murdered members of Gaddafi’s family in a blatant violation of American and international law. The peace prize laureate is in fact a typical American president, using lies and outright thuggery in order to promote the dictates of the American empire. That empire is on its way out, but the final demise may take years, or decades, and the raw power of American military might well continue to bring devastation to the world. The Gaddafi family and Osama bin Laden are but the latest victims in the body count. Not only were these killings assassinations and therefore illegal under American law, but they play a terrible role in promoting beliefs in exceptionalism and exceptional suffering. Judging from the gloating and celebration invoked by bin Laden’s death, one would think that Americans were completely innocent of bringing bloodshed to any part of the world. Obviously that is not true. Not only is America guilty of many crimes committed both within and outside of its borders, but the terrorist attacks that took place on September 11, 2001 became the pretext for an orgy of even greater numbers of killings. Thousands of Afghan civilians have died for the simple reason that Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda planned the attacks while using that country as a base. The occupation of Iraq was born out of an utter and complete lie, a claim that Saddam Hussein was, like al Qaeda, a threat to the safety of Americans. "One would think that Americans were completely innocent of bringing bloodshed to any part of the world." The Obama administration is not quite so ham fisted as the Bush regime, but Muammar Gaddafi has taken on the role played by Saddam Hussein. Just last year, we were assured that Gaddafi was a friend and an ally of the United States, and that the Reagan era attempt to kill him was a long distant memory, never to be repeated because Gaddafi was now on the good list of foreign policy makers. How times have changed. Last month Obama, British prime minister Cameron, and French president Sarkozy issued a joint statement which said in part, "Colonel Gaddafi must go, and go for good." Well, killing someone certainly insures they are gone for good, and the three intended to make good on that threat. Extrajudicial killing is now the rule, and not the exception for the United States. Not only that, but our court system, which in the pre-Bush days were used for terrorism trials, are now off limits politically. When the Obama administration briefly planned to try Khalid Sheik Muhammad in New York, all hell broke loose. New Yorkers were told, falsely, that their lives would be at risk and their city would have to shut down. Of course, the expense would have been great, but it would have been possible to carry out a civilian court trial had the Obama administration not knuckled under to pressure to ignore the rules of law. Obama, the so-called change agent, has proven to be exactly like his predecessors. His poll numbers are high because he killed people in a far away place. One of the victims was a perpetrator of a crime against Americans, but had the country not fallen into such a lawless state, he might have been brought to trial in a courtroom. The United States is now less civilized than ever, and even if Obama had been inclined to do so, most Americans would howl and moan at the prospect of bin Laden receiving true justice. It is a pity. It would have been wonderful indeed for the United States to make even a small attempt to live up to the ideals it once followed. Even the Nazi leadership were tried in open court. "The United States is now less civilized than ever." On Thursday Obama will go to the site of the old World Trade Center and make a speech about why he had to kill bin Laden and why it was right to do so. The Peace Prize winner will once again give a lofty, well written speech about why it makes no sense to be peaceful. The carnival atmosphere is growing more awful by the moment. The corporate media (*link lies) immediately told the story of the bin Laden killing by repeating government lies about women used as human shields and has now descended into worship of the black ops, special, wonderful, very elite, calm, cool, collected and totally awesome troops who did the killing. CIA director Leon Panetta is even suggesting who should portray him in a movie. It would be easy to make fun of Panetta, but he knows of what he speaks. Hollywood will come calling and the only question remaining will be who will portray the peace prize winning killer president. Margaret Kimberley's Freedom Rider column appears weekly in BAR, and is widely reprinted elsewhere. She maintains a frequently updated blog as well as at http://freedomrider.blogspot.com. Ms. Kimberley lives in New York City, and can be reached via e-Mail at Margaret.Kimberley(at)BlackAgandaReport.com. http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/freedom-rider-obama%E2%80%99s-killing-spree
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« Reply #667 on: May 05, 2011, 01:11:12 PM » |
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Osama, Obama and Bush: Apt Comparisons, Missed Opportunities by Bruce A. Dixon BAR, May 4, 2011 http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/osama-obama-and-bush-apt-comparisons-missed-opportunities This weekend the White House announced the extrajudicial killing of Osama Bin Laden, and the secret disposal of his body at sea. Are we any safer now? And would it be any different if George W. Bush were making the same announcement four years ago? Who says there's no difference between Republicans and Democrats in the White House? Imagine for a moment that the announcement of Osama Bin Laden's death had come four years earlier, while George W. Bush was still president. Having already used the top-gun carrier landing stunt for his 2003 "mission accomplished" speech, president Bush might have had himself lowered to the announcement scene by cable from a helicopter at one of the more than one thousand US military bases worldwide. With Vice President Dick Cheney hovering at some undisclosed location the president, Bush would declare yet another battlefield victory in the global war on terror. Bin Laden's body, the president might say, was promptly buried at sea within hours of his death in accordance with Muslim tradition. Minister of Fear Tom Ridge would elevate the national alert level to pale orange. Military and intelligence officials would insist that the killing of Bin Laden proves that "torture works." At the Pentagon Secretary of War Robert Gates, in consultation with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice might advise withholding any photographs of the corpse, and security would be increased at US embassies and installations around the world. Instead Barack Obama made the announcement solemnly, sternly and alone at the White House. There were no references to "smokin’ him out" or "mission accomplished," no ridiculous color-coded alerts, nor references to a "war on terror." Speaking from an undisclosed location, former vice president Dick Cheney congratulated President Obama, who announced that Bin Laden's body had been buried at sea shortly after his death, according to Muslim tradition. While Republicans in Congress tweet that "torture works," military and intelligence officials who ordered and supervised torture such as General Petreaus, are quietly promoted. At the Pentagon, Secretary of War Robert Gates, consulting with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton reportedly decline to release photographs of the corpse. Security was increased at US embassies and installations around the world. The real difference between Republicans and Democrats in a case like this isn't in how the White House would act. The difference is how rank and file Democrats, the so-called antiwar movement choose to react. If this were 2006 or 2007, many would recall the widespread news reports of Bin Laden's death back in December of 2001, and the fact that Bin Laden audio or video tapes had a habit of emerging at incredibly convenient times for the Bush administration, like the eve of the 2004 election. Why should a government and military establishment, antiwar activists would wonder aloud, that told hundreds of well-documented lies to get us into Iraq alone be trusted to tell the truth now? The difference is, those are questions that don't get asked with a Democrat in the White House. Democrat Barack Obama doesn't just start with a clean slate. Thanks to the president's bipartisan and visionary policy of "looking forward, not back" atrocities and crimes of administrations past are forgiven and forgotten, and all the excuses offered for them enshrined as unquestioned historical fact. The Pentagon says they killed Bin Laden in a weekend firefight, won't show pictures and dumped the body at sea. That's it and that's all. Unless another courageous soldier like Bradley Manning comes forth, we'll never know any different, end of story. Assuming the official story is mostly true, could Bin Laden have been captured alive and put on trial? Not likely. No matter who was in the White House, the US never had any intention of capturing Bin Laden alive and bringing him to trial. Afghan authorities in the fall of 2001 offered to apprehend and turn Bin Laden in to US officials, if only they were provided with some actual proof he was responsible for 9-11. Bush spurned the offer, preferring to invade and install a new Afghan "government" of feudal warlords, drug smugglers and aid profiteers. The team allegedly sent to kill Bin Laden was not instructed to capture him alive, but to do just what it did. To kill him. The Afghan war is not not going well, even with a quarter million military, contractors, US officials and mercenaries on the ground spending upwards of $2 billion week. The American public, especially Democrats, don't support it, and even General Petreaus concedes it cannot be won. If President Obama were the courageous, transformative and visionary leader his worshippers would like to believe, Bin Laden's reported death would be an opportunity to declare victory and leave. But transformation and courageous vision have never been Barack Obama's strong suit. This president has already blown many such opportunities. Remember when the White House controlled, with no congressional oversight whatsoever, the global research, financial resources and manufacturing plants of General Motors? Obama could have ordered it to produce electric cars and trucks, and ordered the Post Office and federal agencies to buy them. He could have made GM produce high speed railcars, or building materials that conserve energy, a real "green jobs" program. Instead, he bailed out the investors, stuck the workers with responsibility for their own pensions, and let GM go back to making the same things the same ways they were making before. Then there was health care, where Obama in 2005 told audiences first we (Democrats) take the House and Senate, then we take the White House, and then we get single payer health care. Instead we got bailouts for big pharma and private health insurance. There was the reconfiguration of NAFTA and the passage of the Employee Free Choice Act to enable workers to form unions, both of which Obama endorsed in front of key audiences, and flipped on once in office. Whether it's been Wall Street, "clean coal," "safe nukes," a path to citizenship for the undocumented, an answer to black joblessness and foreclosures, or offshore drilling and the Gulf cleanup, the only courage Barack Obama has found is the courage to betray Democratic voters, who will vote for him anyway because he's not Michelle Bachman. The killing of Bin Laden, if that's what it was, and the celebrations around it only ratify and affirm the lies that war, torture and empire are good and necessary, especially when carried out by Democrats. Bruce A. Dixon is managing editor at Black Agenda Report, and based in Marietta GA. He's one of the principals of a technology and consulting firm and a member of the state committee of the Georgia Green Party. Contact him at bruce.dixon(at)blackagendareport.com. http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/osama-obama-and-bush-apt-comparisons-missed-opportunities
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« Reply #668 on: May 05, 2011, 01:35:49 PM » |
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I'm having trouble understanding that in terms of the "it was all faked" narrative.
Were real SEALs sent on a real op, to get a fake bin Laden??
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« Reply #670 on: May 05, 2011, 02:50:29 PM » |
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I dunno. All Seals are real AFAIK, FWIW. I just meant, were "our" guys really sent in to pretend to get bin Laden? Or, is the whole chopper crash some kind of diversion?
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« Reply #671 on: May 05, 2011, 02:54:46 PM » |
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I dunno. All Seals are real AFAIK, FWIW. I just meant, were "our" guys really sent in to pretend to get bin Laden? Or, is the whole chopper crash some kind of diversion? my take on this is that a BinLaden lookalike was murdered in a Pakistan CIA safehouse. Even the BinLaden girls might be real/fooled or faked. The Seals may be real or an excecution squad in Seal uniforms ie faked. 
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« Reply #672 on: May 05, 2011, 03:12:29 PM » |
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Is this the first real pic of this new bird? Or another psy-op against the US's enemies? Basically saying, 'hay guys we got new choppas!!! Could be completely fabricated as well. More questions ..
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« Reply #673 on: May 05, 2011, 03:51:51 PM » |
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Could it have possibly been a remote controlled drone sent in and blown up, as in self destructed, to give the illusion that we were there?
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« Reply #675 on: May 05, 2011, 05:09:59 PM » |
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National Pride?? msm PUSHING THIS TO THE fk LIMIT.. The MSM is is playing BL’s assassination to the MAX. Just today I watched an interview of several NewYorkers. The reply’s were all about the same. We killed him, it took time but we did it, Americans are proud people, this is a message to all terrorists, muck with us and we will find you and kill them. The interviewers were selecting those who had lost loved one 911, the intent was to raise sympathy and an air of patriotic dementia. Due to this method of propaganda the percentage who know the truth will be hard pressed. Obama T shirts are being printed up, OBAMA DID IT…OBAMA IS THE MAN..ETC. ETC. Seems to me the elites are determined to kep Obama in office.
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« Reply #676 on: May 05, 2011, 07:13:00 PM » |
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Dr. Steve Pieczenik, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and/or Senior Policy Planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker, NY Tiimes best-selling author, M.D. from Cornell University Medical College, Ph.D. in International Relations from M.I.T, principal International Crisis Manager and Hostage Negotiator under Secretaries Kissinger and Vance, currently an advisor to the Department of Defense talks about 9/11 on the Alex Jones Show - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "They ran the attacks. 9/11 IS A TOTAL MANUFACTURE of one organization, the White House under Bush Jr. Bush Jr., Cheney, Rumsfeld - the event of 9/11 was carried out for one purpose. It was carried out to mobilise the American public to go to a war that they didn't need to go to, that they knew nothing about, where we had prepositioned soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq 6 to 9 months beforehand. Wolfowitz, Cheney, Bush Jr., Steve Hadley, Elliot Abrams and the White House, Zalmay Halizad, Dennis Ross, Condolezza Rice, all the Air Force Generals who were involved. They can deny it, but I have a whole list of names, they know who they are - and the intel, the CIA operatives who worked on the SO/LIC - Special Operatives Low Intensity Conflict were all involved. It was called a STANDDOWN, FALSE FLAG OPERATION TO MOBILIZE THE AMERICAN PUBLIC UNDER FALSE PRETENSE that we were attacked by al Queda and Osama Bin Laden, which is an absolute unmitigated lie. It was told to me by the General on the staff of Wolfowitz. I WILL GO IN FRONT OF A FEDERAL COMMITTEE AND WEAR ON PERJURY WHO THE NAME OF THE INDIVIDUAL IS, so that we can break it open. I was furious, I knew it had happened - I taught standdown and false flag operations at the National War College. I've taught it to all my operatives so I know exactly what was done to the American public. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj0pM5FoYbs&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Steve Pieczenik is a critically acclaimed author of psycho-political thrillers and the co-creator of the New York Times best-selling "Tom Clancy's Op-Center" and "Tom Clancy's Net Force" book series. He is also one of the world's most experienced international crisis managers and hostage negotiators. His novels are based on his twenty years experience in resolving international crises for four U.S. administrations. Dr. Pieczenik trained in Psychiatry at Harvard and has both an M.D. from Cornell University Medical College and a Ph.D. in International Relations from M.I.T. He was the first psychiatrist ever to receive a PhD. focusing on international relations. He served as a Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and/or Senior Policy Planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker. During his career as a senior State Department official, Dr. Pieczenik utilized his unique abilities and expertise to develop strategies and tactics that were instrumental in resolving major conflicts in Asia, the Middle East, Latin America, Europe and the United States. Dr. Pieczenik was the principal International Crisis Manager and Hostage Negotiator under Secretaries Kissinger and Vance. During this time he developed conflict resolution techniques that were instrumental in saving over five hundred hostages in different terrorist episodes, including the Hanafi Moslem Seizure in Washington, DC, the TWA Croatian Hijacking, the Aldo Moro Kidnapping, the JRA Hijacking, the PLO Hijacking, and many other incidents involving terrorists such as Idi Amin, Muammar Quaddafi, Carlos, FARC, Abu Nidal and Saddam Hussein. Dr. Pieczenik helped develop negotiation strategies for major U.S.- Soviet arms control summits under the Reagan administration. He was also involved in advising senior officials on important psycho-political dynamics and conflict mediation strategies for President Carter's successful Camp David Peace Conference. In 1991, Dr. Pieczenik was a chief architect of the Cambodian Peace Conference in Paris. He is currently an advisor to the Department of Defense. Dr. Pieczenik has started several successful companies, employing his methodologies in various industries, including investment banking, publishing and television/film. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/browse_thread/thread/284c6d58e9445fe4
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All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately
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« Reply #677 on: May 05, 2011, 08:49:57 PM » |
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my take on this is that a BinLaden lookalike was murdered in a Pakistan CIA safehouse. Even the BinLaden girls might be real/fooled or faked. The Seals may be real or an excecution squad in Seal uniforms ie faked.  That little girl was on two magazines at the checkout tonight! And she was creepier than ever.
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"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.
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« Reply #678 on: May 06, 2011, 07:10:03 AM » |
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Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again! Americans are at their most vulnerable They are vulnerable because they are gullible They are gullible because they are ignorant They are ignorant because they are deliberately misinformed. By Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28027.htmMay 04, 2011 "Information Clearing House" - -- When Obama announced OBL dead, it was established as a fact - the truth. Where truth is concerned, it clearly matters where you were born - or else the truth does not matter. In a 2007 interview, a former Pakistani born president (twice) and a leading opposition candidate favored to win the 2008 general Pakistani elections, Benazir Bhutto, claimed that Omar Sheikh had murdered OBL in an extraordinary interview , she did not get [re] elected -- she was assassinated. Her allegations were buried by the mainstream media along with her. Without a doubt, the American-born US President's announcement of OBL's death will extend Barak Obama's occupancy of the White House for another four years. Neither Bhutto nor Obama produced a corpse to back their claim, yet it appears that nationality has its privileges -- that of establishing the truth. A pertinent question arises: Why would the U.S. put an expiration stamp on the Osama card when it had served the empire so well? Inarguably, OBL had proven his value. Even in his 'death', he continues to serve the American Empire. We have been duly warned that "U.S. intelligence officials believe Osama bin Laden made a propaganda recording shortly before his death and expect that tape to surface soon." The possibility of a future tape, puts the Obama administration in the comfortable fall-back position and enable false flag operations when necessary. What dedication. Is it any wonder that OBL was granted his dearest wish -- to die in battle (and not murdered by a fellow Moslem, or sickness, or ..)? Although OBL was with our consciousness well before 2001, the events of September 11 gave him a new prominence - and for years thereon, he knew when to be silent and when to speak out (apparently the trend will continue after his death). Admittedly, this inordinate ability to speak or be silent took some training - or persuasion. For three years after 9/11, OBL denied being behind the attacks stating: "Following the latest explosions in the United States, some Americans are pointing the finger at me, but I deny that because I have not done it. The United States has always accused me of these incidents, which have been caused by its enemies. Reiterating once again, I say that I have not done it, and the perpetrators have carried this out because of their own interest," (CIA FBIS: Usama bin Laden Statements 1994-2004, Wikileaks, September 14, 2008). Perhaps the pounding of Afghanistan and Iraq deafened him into submission - or substitution. In October 2004, a videotape of OBL is broadcast in which he assumes responsibility for 9/11. (The still photo from the 2004 video is worthy of scrutiny. It closely resembles the still image presented alongside Obama on today's C-Span. Although the hair coloring varies, there are two consistencies: the same wide and uncharacteristic nose and the same exact outfit see link - minute 5:25). After three years of only audio messages, in 2007 (after his first publicly announced death), a new videotape of OBL emerged -with a dyed and trimmed beard to please his global audience (see link). This picture is an exact duplicate of the two above mentioned pictures. It was this incredible image of OBL that prompted me to write my first article about the man. I could not fathom a man devoted to a vigorous practice of fundamental Islam defying the Islamic ideology pertaining to vanity - especially while living in his snug cave. His black trimmed beard was unorthodox. Although he sported a shorter beard, he had set his sight far -- he was analyzing and criticizing the US Democratic Party's moves. On January 6, 2008, I wrote a second and brief article questioning OBL's absence in the face of Israel's massacre in Gaza. I should have been more patient. Eight days after my article was posted on various sites, a recording accompanied by a still photo of Bin Laden superimposed over the al-Aqsa mosque was delivered. It was heartwarming to know that Gaza had not been forgotten. OBL's audiotapes continued to surface. The man truly kept abreast of current events. In 2010, OBL even asked for the boycott of American goods for not addressing climate change. Way to go OBL! Contrary to the latest revelations about OBL's living conditions in luxury and probably with the knowledge of Pakistanis, it had always been thought that OBL sent audio messages because he was in a cave or on the run. Now at least, with his demise, we are shown pictures of his corpse. Regrettably, it has been brought to light by The Guardian that the picture of the corpse presented as proof of his demise seems to be old, recycled pictures. Notwithstanding this shortsightedness, we have been deprived of further photo opportunities in an attempt to respect Islamic rituals. US intelligence tell us that OBL's body was dumped into sea in accordance with Islamic burial demands of a 24 hour burial time frame. It is always refreshing to hear that Islam is respected after the many wars against Islamic countries. So back to the main question: Why did the United States decide to expire Osama bin Laden at this juncture? It would be naive to think that the logic behind the expiration stamp is restricted to promoting the incumbent president and uniting a dissatisfied nation (two thirds dissatisfied or angry with the government see link) and rally the people around the flag. It is equally naive to think that the world needed to be distracted from the reality that an attempted assassination of a foreign leader which led to the murder of his family members was a factor. Nor can one attribute this event to the justification of the illegal and immoral CIA-drone killings in Pakistan. There must be more than meets the eye! Perhaps for the time being, America is so confident in its latest lethal weapon - the pro-democracy cyber dissidents, that it decided to trade the 'war on terror'' with humanitarian imperialism brought about with the help of its cyber dissidents. Such grand gestures of 'humanitarian intervention' to promote democracy require the public consensus. Write OBL's death certificate and the 'good' against evil fight is back on - confident that 'good' will prevail. Cyber warriors and the call for 'humanitarian intervention imperialism': The World Movement for Democracy was initiated by George W. Bush in which he told CIA front National Endowment for Democracy (NED) that his administration's democratization initiative [America must approve the outcome of elections] would focus first on the Middle East - starting with Iraq. This movement has been zealously followed by Obama. Lest we should be inclined to hold Bush to account for all the changes, we ought to be reminded that in 1999, the 'dovish' Jimmy Carter and neocon Paul Wolfowitz penned an article ("Don't Take Democracy for Granted", WSJ, July 21, 1999) praising Ronal Reagan's establishment of NED to spearhead America's ''nongovernmental" (covert psyops) efforts to 'assist' democratic movements around the word. More importantly, we must revisit the historical aspects of "democracy" and what it means to America. President Theodore Roosevelt claimed: "Democracy has justified itself by keeping for the white race the best portion's of the earth's surface." The need to justify 'democracy' further, led to capture of more of earth's surface, which no doubt explains the remarks by General Arthur MacArthur, (father of Douglas) when he said: "America's wonderful thrust into Asia was the destiny of the magnificent Aryan people." After the brutal takeover of the Philippines, Senator Beveridge claimed: " [J]ust beyond the Philippines are China's illimitable markets. God has not been preparing the English-speaking and Teutonic peoples for a thousand years for nothing but vain and idle self-admiration. No, he has made us the master organizers of the world...that we may administer government among savages and senile peoples...the Philippines are ours forever...and just beyond the Philippines lie China's illimitable markets...We will not renounce our part in the mission of our race, trustee under God, of the civilization of the world...China is our natural customer. The Philippines give us a base at the door of the East.. it has been charged that our conduct of the war has been cruel. Senators, it has been the reverse. Senators, remember that we are not dealing with Americans or Europeans. We are dealing with Orientals." (source: http://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/155/25996.html). No doubt the renewed thrust of the empire into the Middle East to justify democracy, assassinate, and plunder is not new; but the method is novel - democracy's cyber warriors. Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich has a Master's degree in Public Diplomacy from USC Annenberg for Communication and USC School of International Relations. She is an independent researcher and writer with a focus on U.S. foreign policy and the role of lobby groups in influencing US foreign policy. She is a peace activist, essayist and public speaker.http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28027.htm
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« Reply #679 on: May 06, 2011, 07:30:32 AM » |
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the guy peering around the corner just looks photoshopped
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"Outlaws have their uses." - Earl of Newark
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