WH publishing of Obama birth certificate raises many more questions than answers

[jofortruth]

BE SURE TO ANSWER THE POLL THE WSJ HAS ON PAGE, AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS SATISFIES YOU HE WAS BORN IN USA! (Left side of page)
http://tinyurl.com/6d7jajx

Right now, the poll shows the majority say they are now satisified!


Birth Certificate vs. Certification of Live Birth:
http://freedomedium.com/2009/07/birth-certificate-vs-certification-of-live-birth/

Pay close attention to the following Hawaiian legal statute:

"[§338-17.8]  Certificates for children born out of State.

(a)  Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

(b)  Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate.  The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

(c)  The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]"

Everybody get that?

As long as an adult can walk into Hawaii's version of the Department of Records and provide proof that they are a legal resident of Hawaii, the document is issued.

[Ambriel]

The U.S. National Center for Health Statistics creates standard forms that are recommended for use by the individual states to document births. However, states are free to create their own forms.[22] As a result, neither the appearance nor the information content of birth certificate forms is uniform across states. These forms are completed by the attendant at birth or a hospital administrator, which are then forwarded to a local or state registrar, who stores the record and issues certified copies when requested.[1]
[edit] Types of certified copies issued

According to the Department of Health and Human Services, Office of Inspector General, as of 2000 there were more than 6,000 entities issuing birth certificates. The Inspector General report states that according to staff at the Immigration and Naturalization Service’s Forensics Document Laboratory the number of legitimate birth certificate versions in use exceeded 14,000. [23]
[edit] Acceptance of short forms

In the case of applying for a US passport, not all legitimate birth certificates are acceptable:

    A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar's signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.

    Beginning April 1, 2011, all birth certificates must also include the full names of the applicant's parent(s).[24]

[edit] Other forms

Most hospitals in the U.S. issue a souvenir birth certificate which typically includes the footprints of the newborn. However, these birth certificates are not legally accepted as proof of age or citizenship, and are frequently rejected by the Bureau of Consular Affairs during passport applications. Many Americans believe the souvenir records to be their official birth certificates, when in reality they hold little legal value.[25]
[edit] Birth certificates in cases of adoptions

In the United States and Canada, when a person is legally adopted, the government will seal the original birth certificate, and will issue a replacement birth certificate noting the information of the adoptive parents, and the adoptive names of the child. In those cases, adopted individuals are not granted access to their own original birth certificates upon request. Laws vary depending on state or province. Some places allow adopted people unrestricted access to their own original birth certificates, whereas in others the certificate is available only if the biological parents have given their permission. Other places do not allow adopted people access to their own original birth certificates under any circumstances.

[Ambriel]

READ IT!!!

In the United States and Canada, when a person is legally adopted, the government will seal the original birth certificate, and will issue a replacement birth certificate noting the information of the adoptive parents, and the adoptive names of the child. In those cases, adopted individuals are not granted access to their own original birth certificates upon request. Laws vary depending on state or province. Some places allow adopted people unrestricted access to their own original birth certificates, whereas in others the certificate is available only if the biological parents have given their permission. Other places do not allow adopted people access to their own original birth certificates under any circumstances.

[ORECHICK]

READ IT!!!

In the United States and Canada, when a person is legally adopted, the government will seal the original birth certificate, and will issue a replacement birth certificate noting the information of the adoptive parents, and the adoptive names of the child. In those cases, adopted individuals are not granted access to their own original birth certificates upon request. Laws vary depending on state or province. Some places allow adopted people unrestricted access to their own original birth certificates, whereas in others the certificate is available only if the biological parents have given their permission. Other places do not allow adopted people access to their own original birth certificates under any circumstances.

My father adopted me as I stated in earlier posts.. my mom is my bio mom, unfortunately.. and I can attest that I CANNOT get my original BC with my real last name.  It's all been wiped clean...

[John_Back_From_The_Club_O]

Barry's illegal wars?

[lamourlady]

READ IT!!!

In the United States and Canada, when a person is legally adopted, the government will seal the original birth certificate, and will issue a replacement birth certificate noting the information of the adoptive parents, and the adoptive names of the child. In those cases, adopted individuals are not granted access to their own original birth certificates upon request. Laws vary depending on state or province. Some places allow adopted people unrestricted access to their own original birth certificates, whereas in others the certificate is available only if the biological parents have given their permission. Other places do not allow adopted people access to their own original birth certificates under any circumstances.

It seems that if the adoption went outside of the genealogical family lines, then yes, biological parents would need to be notified, but wasn't Obama adopted by a family member, meaning everyone already knew, therefore the records need not be restricted?  Ah, such bullocks!  I'm sure if it were a criminal case (hahaha), then those records would be summoned out very quickly.

edit* Orechick, 'wiped out' meaning gone or just not available, how can one be sure?

[ORECHICK]

It seems that if the adoption went outside of the genealogical family lines, then yes, biological parents would need to be notified, but wasn't Obama adopted by a family member, meaning everyone already knew, therefore the records need not be restricted?  Ah, such bullocks!  I'm sure if it were a criminal case (hahaha), then those records would be summoned out very quickly.

his parents are dead, he can never get an original?

[donnay]

This unveiling proves just one thing to me, that the powers that be will produce anything to further their agenda!!  We are asking for truths in a system where the foxes are guarding the hen houses.  It's clear to me, that he was illegitimate from the get-go--all Presidents in the last century to now, have all been compromised to take these positions.

It's obvious the PTB want him in to continue to sink this country into third world status.  When his services are no longer needed, he will be tossed, under the bus, just like others before him.

[lamourlady]

This unveiling proves just one thing to me, that the powers that be will produce anything to further their agenda!!  We are asking for truths in a system where the foxes are guarding the hen houses.  It's clear to me, that he was illegitimate from the get-go--all Presidents in the last century to now, have all been compromised to take these positions.

It's obvious the PTB want him in to continue to sink this country into third world status.  When his services are no longer needed, he will be tossed, under the bus, just like others before him.

Yes, I really thought they were in the process of 'tossing' him, seems I was wrong.

[larsonstdoc]

   As AJ says, a psy-op no doubt.

[ORECHICK]

It seems that if the adoption went outside of the genealogical family lines, then yes, biological parents would need to be notified, but wasn't Obama adopted by a family member, meaning everyone already knew, therefore the records need not be restricted?  Ah, such bullocks!  I'm sure if it were a criminal case (hahaha), then those records would be summoned out very quickly.

edit* Orechick, 'wiped out' meaning gone or just not available, how can one be sure?

well as I stated before, I was in the military and had TWO FBI background and fingerprinting checks and my birth last name has NEVER come up.. not even in passing.  One of the reasons may be that I didn't actually get a SSN# until I was a teenager, it wasn't automatically assigned in the 70's.  But, my SSN# is a number from the state I was "adopted" in and NOT the state I was born in.

[John_Back_From_The_Club_O]

BE SURE TO ANSWER THE POLL THE WSJ HAS ON PAGE, AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS SATISFIES YOU HE WAS BORN IN USA! (Left side of page)
http://tinyurl.com/6d7jajx

Right now, the poll shows the majority say they are now satisified!

The old Soviets used to make point after point on how easy it was to pull the wool over the American people eyes based on their knee jerk response mentality.  They always called Americans 'reactionists'.

I agree with dig.  The bigger issue is why has ALL of Barry's records been hidden regardless of what they say when it is against the law to do so.

BTW-
This 'newly' released document has all the earmarks of backfiring on the majority in that poll.

[Valerius]

Uh, remember this?

http://jroycroft.wordpress.com/2011/01/22/new-governor-of-hawaii-cant-find-obamas-birth-certificate-governor-abercrombie-tells-london-daily-mail-it-may-not-exist

[TahoeBlue]

I think this all has to do with at least 10 states requiring proof now... and just a week ago he filed for his next run for prez...

So Is this doc fabricated? . Just yesterday on CNN they had the Hawaii registrar say she had seen the doc.
So when did the birth document "appear"  this year? last year?....

So - Will Obama go for re-election?

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/6631-new-hampshire-joins-roster-of-states-requiring-presidential-birth-certificate

N.H. Joins Roster of States Requiring Presidential Birth Certificate
...
And as with similar statutes being debated in other states, the New Hampshire bill specifies that only a “long-form birth certificate” would qualify as sufficient proof of natural born citizenship.
...
Ten states have pending proposals that would require future candidates for president to provide legal proof of their constitutional qualifications for that office

Texas, Tennessee, Nebraska , Maine,  Iowa,  Indiana ,Connecticut , Arizona, New Hampshire

In Tennessee, veteran states' rights supporter, Senator Mae Beavers (Beavers battles boldly and relentlessly to beat back the encroachment of federal statutes into the sovereign territory of the Volunteer State), has introduced SB 366 which would require all presidential candidates who wish their names on Tennessee's ballot in presidential election years starting in 2012 to file an "original long form birth certificate" with Tennessee's Secretary of State, along with a sworn affidavit declaring they do not hold dual citizenship in another country.

[donnay]

Interesting enough here is another headline today:

Proposed Passport Form Is Basically Impossible

Need a passport? Better find your birth certificate, because the State Department is considering a new, and nearly impossible to complete, form that would be required for those who can't produce one. In addition to "easy" questions like listing every residence and job you've had since birth and, of course,...

http://www.newser.com/story/117316/proposed-passport-form-is-basically-impossible.html

[TahoeBlue]

Interesting enough here is another headline today:

Proposed Passport Form Is Basically Impossible

Need a passport? Better find your birth certificate, because the State Department is considering a new, and nearly impossible to complete, form that would be required for those who can't produce one. In addition to "easy" questions like listing every residence and job you've had since birth and, of course,...

http://www.newser.com/story/117316/proposed-passport-form-is-basically-impossible.html

Right and during the election the state department records were hacked to obsure his passport info and after election Hill Clinton as State Dept. had control....

see: Two Fired For Looking At Obama's Passport File

All very curious. Now State Dept Hillary has the records.... Were records "deleted", "altered" or "replaced"? Also the names of the "fired" employees have never come up in print or interviewed. hmmm

Note the article below where Obama's own man was involved in the breach:

Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm The Analysis Corp, that was cited in March for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office, " involved a contract employee of Brennan’s firm, The Analysis Corp"

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2008/03/21/state-dept-to-respond-to-reports-of-breach-of-obamas-passport-file/?wpcf7=json
Rice Apologizes to Obama Over Passport Record Breach - 3/21/2008

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice personally apologized to Barack Obama following reports that Obama's passport file was accessed three times this year by unauthorized State Department employees.

"I said I was sorry. I told him myself that I would be very disturbed if someone went into my passport file," Rice told reporters Friday morning. "I said I would stay on top of it and get to the bottom of it," she added.

The State Department has launched an internal investigation into the breach of Obama's passport records, which prompted the department to fire two contract employees and discipline a third. The Justice Department also is aware of the probe.

Obama's campaign called the news "outrageous" and demanded the department find out why the Illinois senator's files were accessed and why it took so long to reveal the breach.
...

also:

This gets back to the passport breakin - they would have had the notarized documents (long form birth copy) if there was one, or a fake could have been inserted. but the passport application would have had the story on his documents , and in theory they still do unless they've been replaced with a fake dossier.

related: FBI admits, Obama probably NOT born in the United States of America!!!!!!!

The Passport office has his documents whatever they are.... They aren't talking....

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html
...
STEP 2: Submit Evidence of U.S. Citizenship

When applying for a U.S. passport in person, evidence of U.S. citizenship must be submitted with Form DS-11. All documentation submitted as citizenship evidence will be returned to you. These documents will be delivered with your newly issued U.S. passport or in a separate mailing.

Primary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship (One of the following):
Previously issued, undamaged U.S. Passport
Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state*
 Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certification of Birth
 Naturalization Certificate
 Certificate of Citizenship
 
*A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar’s signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.

NOTE: If you do not have primary evidence of U.S. citizenship or your U.S. birth certificate does not meet the requirements, please see Secondary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship.

related: Two Fired For Looking At Obama's Passport File

http://www.zimbio.com/Sean+McCormack+-+Department+of+State/articles/6/Obama+Intelligence+Adviser+Involved+Security

The State Department has not released the names of the persons responsible for the unauthorized searches but said two were employed by Stanley Inc. and the third was an employee of The Analysis Corp. (TAC).

Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, is John O. Brennan. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, involved a contract employee of Brennan’s firm, The Analysis Corp.

Stanley Inc., a 3,500-person firm, is an Arlington-based information technology firm that this week won a $570 million contract to continue providing passport services to the State Department, which the company has done since 1992, according to Stanley Inc.’s Web site.

TAC is a McLean-based information firm that has helped the State Department automate the Terrorist Watchlist over the last several years, the company’s Web site said.

TAC’s Chief Executive Officer John O. Brennan is a former CIA agent who is an adviser to Mr. Obama’s presidential campaign.

[HAZMAT]

No the White house called for it and got it.

This battle is over. Now move to a new front.

I agree. I still believed this was a non-issue in the first place. Who cares if he is a citizen or not, he is still committing crimes all the time and violating our long forgotten constitution. I had doubts about his birth but they finally released what we have been asking for.

[ORECHICK]

I agree. I still believed this was a non-issue in the first place. Who cares if he is a citizen or not, he is still committing crimes all the time and violating our long forgotten constitution. I had doubts about his birth but they finally released what we have been asking for.

NO they haven't.  This is a farce and it's not a NON issue, it's our Constitution.  If your home gets raided, or children taken away.... should it be a non issue?

[HAZMAT]

NO they haven't.  This is a farce and it's not a NON issue, it's our Constitution.  If your home gets raided, or children taken away.... should it be a non issue?

There is no way you can disprove this birth certificate, It COULD be forged but there is no evidence behind it, time to move on. Apparently I care about our constitution but we have been distracted with...this. Lets focus on the globalists and bankers, where the real problems lie.

[ORECHICK]

There is no way you can disprove this birth certificate, It COULD be forged but there is no evidence behind it, time to move on. Apparently I care about our constitution but we have been distracted with...this. Lets focus on the globalists and bankers, where the real problems lie.

I respectfully disagree.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/barack-obama/birth-obama-certer-movement-098513

http://www.rense.com/general93/wrong.htm

http://www.rense.com/general93/ob1.htm

[HAZMAT]

I respectfully disagree.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/barack-obama/birth-obama-certer-movement-098513

http://www.rense.com/general93/wrong.htm

http://www.rense.com/general93/ob1.htm

Those are not facts, the only real plausible question I think needs to be answered is about the name of the hospital. Like I said, I have no opinion on it unless we know for a fact, or have facts that point to him not being a natural citizen, until then. I will keep saying "I don't know" and neither does anyone else so they can't claim to know. I don't like the man at all, I am not trying to take up for him but I think when people jump to conclusions without some sort of facts to back them up, it hurts the whole movement and discredits us.

[Rebelitarian]

The White House on Wednesday morning released the president's long form birth certificate (pdf) in an attempt to put "birther" questions to rest.

"The President believed the distraction over his birth certificate wasn't good for the country. It may have been good politics and good T.V., but it was bad for the American people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a country," White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said in a statement.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/20110427/ts_yblog_theticket/white-house-releases-obama-birth-certificate

No state seal, no footprint, and let's see if the paper is from the 1961 time period.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMF51vXblFI

A foot print and a state seal at least lends more credibility.

[Optimus]

Layered? If someone can confirm this it would mean it was altered/tampered with!

President Obama's Birth Certificate PDF has "Layers"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgVIei87oFo

http://wireupdate.com/video/2011/04/president-obamas-birth-certificate-pdf-has-layers/

[jofortruth]

So, what's with this 2004 article when he became a Senator?
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/592/806/2004_Headline:_Kenyan_Born_Obama_All_Set_for_US_Senate.html

 Sunday, June 27, 2004
  
Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate  

Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.

The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.

Ryan’s campaign began to crumble on Monday following the release of embarrassing records from his divorce. In the records, his ex-wife, Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan, said her former husband took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans.
    
Barrack Obama
 

"It’s clear to me that a vigorous debate on the issues most likely could not take place if I remain in the race," Ryan, 44, said in a statement. "What would take place, rather, is a brutal, scorched-earth campaign – the kind of campaign that has turned off so many voters, the kind of politics I refuse to play."

Although Ryan disputed the allegations, saying he and his wife went to one ‘avant-garde’ club in Paris and left because they felt uncomfortable, lashed out at the media and said it was "truly outrageous" that the Chicago Tribune got a judge to unseal the records.

The Republican choice will become an instant underdog in the campaign for the seat of retiring Republican Senator Peter Fitzgerald, since Obama held a wide lead even before the scandal broke.

"I feel for him actually," Obama told a Chicago TV station. "What he’s gone through over the last three days I think is something you wouldn’t wish on anybody."

The Republican state committee must now choose a replacement for Ryan, who had won in the primaries against seven contenders. Its task is complicated by the fact that Obama holds a comfortable lead in the polls and is widely regarded as a rising Democratic star.

The chairwoman of the Illinois Republican Party, Judy Topinka, said at a news conference, after Ryan withdrew, that Republicans would probably take several weeks to settle on a new candidate.

"Obviously, this is a bad week for our party and our state," she said.

As recently as Thursday, spokesmen for the Ryan campaign still insisted that Ryan would remain in the race. Ryan had defended himself saying, "There’s no breaking of any laws. There’s no breaking of any marriage laws. There’s no breaking of the Ten Commandments anywhere."

WE ARE STILL NOT BEING TOLD THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS GUY! IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE PUT UP WITH LIARS WHO CALL THEMSELVES PRESIDENTS! IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE FORCED TO COME CLEAN ON HIS PAST, AND THE SPINELESS CONGRESSMEN AND THE DOJ NEED TO DO THEIR DAMN JOBS AND MAKE THIS HAPPEN!

[KazKru]

No state seal, no footprint, and let's see if the paper is from the 1961 time period.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMF51vXblFI

A foot print and a state seal at least lends more credibility.

A missing seal is a huge red flag for me.....I've never seen a document that is "certified" by any level of government not have some kind of official seal or watermark, and especially if it's a "certified copy" of an original.

This document, is only going to throw fuel on the already burning fire, not put it out.  And the Whitehouse damn well knows this.  The big question is what is the exact game here?

[jofortruth]

BE SURE TO ANSWER THE POLL THE WSJ HAS ON PAGE, AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS SATISFIES YOU HE WAS BORN IN USA! (Left side of page below certificate)
http://tinyurl.com/6d7jajx

Right now, the poll shows the majority say they are now satisified! Looks like WSJ manipulation to me, like most polls you see on these MSM sites!

IMO, what they released is no better than the short form they released previously. IT VERIFIES NOTHING!

[Rebelitarian]

A missing seal is a huge red flag for me.....I've never seen a document that is "certified" by any level of government not have some kind of official seal or watermark, and especially if it's a "certified copy" of an original.

This document, is only going to throw fuel on the already burning fire, not put it out.  And the Whitehouse damn well knows this.  The big question is what is the exact game here?

Keep us distracted till they get the FEMA trucks in place.   

[larsonstdoc]

A missing seal is a huge red flag for me.....I've never seen a document that is "certified" by any level of government not have some kind of official seal or watermark, and especially if it's a "certified copy" of an original.

This document, is only going to throw fuel on the already burning fire, not put it out.  And the Whitehouse damn well knows this.  The big question is what is the exact game here?

  Here in Montana, you can't get a DL w/o a sealed bc.

[jofortruth]

Keep us distracted till they get the FEMA trucks in place.   

A lot of things happening currently are certainly MANUFACTURED distractions. They knew full well this info would eventually come out about Obama, and they use it like they do any CRISIS, to their BENEFIT! Insane people, all of them!

[NMTO]

Please see this thread:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=206979.0

If true, VERY IMPORTANT.

[Rebelitarian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIVEfVGLBQ

This was Ron Polarik's video about the FAKE COLB.

I am sure that some document CSI here will reveal pretty much the same thing.

[fireflyblue711]

Fascinating article.

Makes connections between MKULTRA and possible Manchurian Candidating After researching what they are doing ( did ) to my family - and seeing how this MKUTLRA CIA programs operates - I started to look at Obama in a different way.

His mother died the night he was elected right? His first job was for Kissinger after college?
 
If indeed there exists the possibility that he was in a Manchurian Candidate like program ( even  though he's been on the privileged side of MKUTLRA behavior programing) - he still is a possible victim. He has his family to worry about.

I think people in the know of these kind of operations should take this into consideration before directing so much anger and hatred towards our past and current Presidents. They are not in charge. It's the evil puppeteers behind him that are. Nobody changes overnight in policy like the way he did.

Just as Alex awoke me to the "left right" paradigm - I think it is important to realize that "all this energy on hating The President" ( especially to those who are awake to the NWO propaganda) is similar to the same smoke and mirrors operation as the left/right diversion.

 It's to keep us involved the "presidential soap opera" and not look at whose evil mofo's behind the Green Curtain ( *coughs* Kissinger - and the hidden so called "elite" ).

I'll bet you a million dollars Kissinger and crew are not only laughing at the American public - but are also enjoying seeing and laughing at Obama being roasted like this. They don't give a sh*t about anyone even - The President.

If they did they would have done a better job at covering this mess up. If the NWO really did not want people to know - they would have done a better job at making sure none of this came out.  They wouldn't have dropped the birth certificate out in public vew if it was indeed fake...

They planned it this way IMHO.

 I also think we should keep in mind that these past presidents we've had  -are possible victims of these CIA  mind control programs which were developed in the same time era that they were growing up.( Bush Jr. Clinton Obama).

 

[egypt]

Interesting to note:

1.  No matter "who" was elected, Obama or McCain ---> there would have been an issue of qualification via birth...

2.  It was wondered "why" about #1.  Obviously it was planned this way.

3.  Now, the "why" is being revealed.  It is being used as a mega distraction by globalists at a time when it is mega-needed by them to coverup their actions in destroying the USA's economy.

Love, e

[fireflyblue711]

BE SURE TO ANSWER THE POLL THE WSJ HAS ON PAGE, AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS SATISFIES YOU HE WAS BORN IN USA! (Left side of page below certificate)
http://tinyurl.com/6d7jajx

Right now, the poll shows the majority say they are now satisified! Looks like WSJ manipulation to me, like most polls you see on these MSM sites!

IMO, what they released is no better than the short form they released previously. IT VERIFIES NOTHING!

LOL Joe I should have read your post before I posted...you summed it up perfectly !

[fireflyblue711]

Interesting to note:

1.  No matter "who" was elected, Obama or McCain ---> there would have been an issue of qualification via birth...

2.  It was wondered "why" about #1.  Obviously it was planned this way.

3.  Now, the "why" is being revealed.  It is being used as a mega distraction by globalists at a time when it is mega-needed by them to coverup their actions in destroying the USA's economy.

Love, e

I agree 110 percent!

[Brocke]

In 1961 would they have put his fathers race as African? African is a nationality not a race.

In traditional anthropological studies there are actually 5 races.
These are:

1) Mongoloid (Asian and American Indian)
2) Caucasoid (European)
3) Australoid (Australian and oceanic)
4) Negroid (east African black)
5) Capoid (south African black)

[Rebelitarian]

It'll be proven a fake by people like Ron Polarik just wtach.

[egypt]

Why couldn't the Governor of Hawaii find it?  Obviously this is another fraud.  I mean, isn't Obama famous for fraud and lies already?

The number of the certificate needs to be checked within that number range.  The actual county record of handwritten entry needs to be checked!

Love, e

[TahoeBlue]

I agree 110 percent!

I feel they felt the requirement and the ability to pull off  - an "illegal person" (unconstitutional) to sign illegal (unconstitutional) bills... probably a first in this country

[Rebelitarian]

3 years and $1.2 million later ?

Really ?   

and they didn't even get a footprint or a state seal, the paper is suspect too.  Each year having their own unique paper markings for 1961 etc.