National Geographic White House funded 9/11 Hit Piece sure to wake more up!

[chris jones]

I didn't watch it, read any details, nor attempt to convince myself that N.G. would do an unbiased show.

Sorry, I realize that I should have, but my gut feeling kinda took over.

The key to Busheys reign and the following abominations was 911.

I don't think that the Gov will adhere to a private investigation,do you??? teams of nonpartisan professionals etc. They have a blanket over this made of teflon.

[Freeski]

I didn't watch it, read any details, nor attempt to convince myself that N.G. would do an unbiased show.

Sorry, I realize that I should have, but my gut feeling kinda took over.

The key to Busheys reign and the following abominations was 911.

I don't think that the Gov will adhere to a private investigation,do you??? teams of nonpartisan professionals etc. They have a blanket over this made of teflon.

Hey Chris, I always like your input. It's odd because normally I would want to watch this and tear it apart in my mind... but not this time. It has Popular Mechanics Redux written all over it and to be honest, that stuff is getting boring.

[kidA]

I hate the part where Matt Taibi [I think it was him] said that what all conspiracy theorists want are all the files and documents that the govt won't hand over. Well...why don't they just hand them over? What is there to hide?

[Freeski]

I hate the part where Matt Taibi [I think it was him] said that what all conspiracy theorists want are all the files and documents that the govt won't hand over. Well...why don't they just hand them over? What is there to hide?

What's that quote about bad men fearing the dark while good men love the light?

[Col3_11n12]

I know that one!     

John 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."

[Kilika]

Why is it that people who use a bible version other than the KJV never say what version they are using? Curious. So for the record, here's the KJV version, and noted as such...

19   And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 
20   For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 
21   But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. 
John 3:19-21 (KJV)

[davidnay]

A couple years old I believe but still very relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3POeE9b1SE&feature=related

[agentbluescreen]

..... The products have become irrelevant. Voice inflection, volume, image in relation to sound, etc. They try it all.

The segment they presented that it would have taken "thousands" of people to pull it off was amazing. A few quick comments from a couple people that it would have taken too many people to pull it off, and right to the next topic, offering no reasoning as to why they think it required "thousands" of people, to which I say they need to redo their math. An awful lot of people were involved and didn't even know it. They literally were just doing their jobs.

"Truthers", yeah I get the feeling they were doing that as a bit of a jab. I bet the producers thought it would be cute.

It couldn't have required "thousands" of co-conspirator/accomplices to do it!

We all know only 19 guys with boxcutters and a few cavemen goat herders lurking in the mountains of Afghanistan were necessary to to stage the exact re-enactment of the Warlord James Version of Daniel Chapter 8 and, in the process, overcome all the most powerful, advanced and impregnable scientifically advanced immigration, intelligence, radar, surveillance, security and air force defenses and the essential award-winning basis of all steel skyscraper engineering excellence of modern architectural science in the world!

"Thousands" of radical right-wing conservatist so-called 'Christian' fascists in OUR government? - what a crock!!

[hyperqube]

The segment they presented that it would have taken "thousands" of people to pull it off was amazing. A few quick comments from a couple people that it would have taken too many people to pull it off, and right to the next topic, offering no reasoning as to why they think it required "thousands" of people, to which I say they need to redo their math. An awful lot of people were involved and didn't even know it. They literally were just doing their jobs.

does anyone know the term for that kind of argument?

[agentbluescreen]

does anyone know the term for that kind of argument?

fallacious  LOL

"it would require thousands of dumb, well educated modern Americans (to plan, engineer, implement, execute, orchestrate and cover up all the events needed to stage the Daniel Chapter 8 Show on 9/11 who could never keep a secret) but it "clearly" only took 19 of 20 super-smart evil "al CIAda Ayrabs" (who happened to show up that day to blunder into their success) with a 700AD education....

[Freeski]

does anyone know the term for that kind of argument?

Boring?

Uninformed?

Moronic?

Toolish?

Shilly?

It's the most annoying "argument" possible.

[Kilika]

does anyone know the term for that kind of argument?

My explanation or the one National Geo gave?

I would call N.G.'s argument simply baseless.

"Thousands" of radical right-wing conservatist so-called 'Christian' fascists in OUR government? - what a crock!!

Any opportunity to bash Christianity eh?

At least your consistant with your incoherent ramblings.

[agentbluescreen]

My explanation or the one National Geo gave?

I would call N.G.'s argument simply baseless.

Any opportunity to bash Christianity eh?

At least your consistant with your incoherent ramblings.

It's because I am  a true (what you Satan-worshipping Roman Imperial Corporate "bible" fascists call a "gnostic") Christian, not a brainwashed transnational-corporate-socialist "Christianist" who worships the false idols of the Egyptian-Levitican and Roman-Constantinian corporate propaganda lie books you Christianists call a bible!

Once one studies the hateful anti-G_dly national-socialist histories of the first two bipolar false duotheistic Levitican and Constantinian fascist-corporatist "reichs" one will begin to understand the true teachings of Our Savior, as revealed only in the basic. most simple and essential teachings of Judaism, Christianism and many other corporate-socialist faith businesses.

If you want to get a better understanding of The Unity of All Loves Themselves, His (and our) divine creative attractive gravitational parentage, the one true G_d, the essence of Liberty, the loving fountainhead of all lives and the eternal glory known as "heaven" read and try to understand in both Coptic and Greek fragments the deleted  Gospel of Thomas trashed by the imperial bishop-murdering noble-corporate-socialist Roman "Emperor" Constantine at Nicaea

IT IS THE GOOD NEWS THAT WILL SAVE US ALL.

[NWOSCUM]

For those who missed it before.

[IridiumKEPfactor]

Nation Geographic re-airing B.S. Hit piece right now at 9:00pm EST     

[ES]

I wish I had cable so I could watch them fire a missle into the chicken coop and pretend its the pentagon. 

[cloudsifter]

yah, watching it right now... in the purdue simulation, i didn't see any cement columns in the core...  they are going to light some jet fuel on fire soon.

just lit a pool of 700 gal of jet fuel and in a few min it collapsed... but it wasn't vaporized like in WTC what a croc.

[agentbluescreen]

yah, watching it right now... in the purdue simulation, i didn't see any cement columns in the core...  they are going to light some jet fuel on fire soon.

just lit a pool of 700 gal of jet fuel and in a few min it collapsed... but it wasn't vaporized like in WTC what a croc.

Their Perdue example is totally flawed as that building is a "box frame" sort of steel "skyscraper". The spread-out support columns of a box frame (Empire State Building example) structure do usually need to be covered with concrete or wallboard and are equidistantly spaced throughout the floors intruding into all occupied floor areas. This sort of a building design system only works in small buildings or in a tall structure, if the outside and most inner columns are cross-braced (to prevent box-racking) in an very huge and heavy rigid outer concrete and masonry core like the Empire State Building.

To demolish such a primitive structure as this one must go into occupied areas and break out column-encasements to place explosives all over the place on every floor.

If you are unfamiliar with architecture, "racking" is the tendency any upper platform supported on any stick-frame assembly has to twist or bend sideways, due to torsional-twist or angular lateral stresses on the sticks supporting it. This racking tendency can only be fully cured in any one wall plane by adding "X" angular cross braces, which is anathema to the placement of windows. The alternative is massive column encasing concrete sleeves throughout and on the outside like on the old Empire State Building.

The WTC "space frame" tower design was different. It was two towers (a massive central core concrete/steel space "framed column trunk spine" and an outer steel "frame can exoskeleton")  held together by the floors laterally contained within! In this design the horizontally contained solid floor-planes are the flexible spinal cross bracing!

This column-less revolution in tower design was a magnificent engineering achievement, that has won many awards and is the basis for all high tower designs now today.

Nonetheless any taller steel box frame structure must have its central elevator core which is the "spine" of the building encased in and reinforced with a hollow core-containing hollow concrete central column reinforced with rebar steel, and that was the only similarity to the WTC in the Perdue example. But it was not similar in fact, since the WTC cores outer rebar and concrete elevator core and floor support container was 5X the size and strength of what would be needed to reinforce a box frame structures hollow elevator core, since in the WTC the massive space frame column container core sleeve held both the floors and half of all their weights and loads up  AND prevented much of the higher torsional (twist) and lateral (bend) racking!

The tall mega-skyscraper engineering of the WTC towers was completely different than the primitive simplicity of the Perdue office building. Nobody had to go into an occupied area to expose a beam and attach explosives to it in WTC 1 or 2!

In order to provide tenants with flexible open spaces on each floor devoid of equidistant box frame support columns like the old Empire State Building (Perdue office building) system, the WTC Towers were designed as revolutionary new "space frame" structures instead.  This meant that the building was supported by lighter, stronger yet more rigid floors anchored to densely powerful "outer and inner cores" only. The 2 WTC towers (not building 7) had and needed no (immovable) columns within their floor spaces other than the buildings densely reinforced central "trunk core" and the outer exoskeletal "Window Columns"!

The inner cores incredibly powerful, rigid, yet flexibly compact cross ("I beam") braced steel box "0 beam" central core frame system decreased in steel-mass density (5" thick to 2" thick) with height, while it's "trunk" and "trunk to floor" was given added "floor branch" support  by a massive steel rebar reinforced concrete core column "bark tube" container. In other words the floor to core joints were totally encased in a solid massive reinforced concrete "sleeve" which held the cross-braced steel box frame core columns assembly, and the weights and loads of all floors up and resisted torsional (twist) racking.

The outer exoskeletal 'core" was a giant steel can-container approximately 5X stronger than it had to be consisting of massive equidistant steel girders. As an external "can frame" it's well distributed weight alone also held up the outer half of the floors weights and loads while innately resisting lateral "slide" racking, by virtues of both it's rigidity and its own weights!

Unlike the box frame WTC7 which housed mostly political racketeers and lawless military industrial criminal spooks, WTC towers 1 and 2 could easily be pre-demolished by simply having access to it's hidden inner core alone!

The corollary to their defective "Daniel Chapter 8" asbestos liability escaping demolition plan however was the massive design strength of the WTC cores!

Simply diagonally melt-cutting the massive steel into vertically cut sections with advanced "thermate^®" heat incendiaries wouldn't cause or allow the cut core sections to "slide-over" and fall down on one another ANYWHERE because the core frames were POWERFULLY held in place horizontally by the concrete/steel rebar outer elevator-shaft floor brace anti-torque core!  It had to be blown out in at least 20 heights to allow the cut steel and floor "hammers" to fall!


And these twenty timed concrete-core opening explosions travelling downwards at the moment of demolition (after the early morning basement core-weight loading explosions that pre-hung the core from the can by the floors, designed to look like/coincide with the plane hits but botched) are exactly what we hear!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iya_s7J7K6Y


Case closed!

[agentbluescreen]

To me the most hilarious scene in the Smithsonian bunk-fest is the one with all the stacked up tractor trailer-long 5 floor prostrated steel beams lying "in state" under the American flags in the warehouse.

One will notice that the ends of each one were cut-off perfectly on a 45˚ angle by some sort of incendiary slicing.

Even allowing for the fact that iron workers may have used oxy-acetylene torches to cut some of these pieces afterwards for removal from the wreckage why on earth would they be cut on 45˚ angles, a much 1.5X longer cut, which is only done to vertical beams of standing steel structures (with thermite incendiary charges, never torches) to facilitate slide-over drop-down demolition collapses?

I couldn't believe they had the nerve to show such footage of the perfectly demolished scrap steel.

[Technitum]

They aired this 9/11 program in Australia too.

I decided to ask some workmates what they thought of 9/11 being an inside job.



They referred to the program and then had a rant about conspiricy theorists being nutters.



/sigh