I think haarp is active right now.website down.

[Lisa]

http://137.229.36.30/cgi-bin/scmag/disp-scmag.cgi?date=latest&Bx=on&By=on&Bz=on

Every time I feel edgy or panicky, I would check the haarp site and sure enough it is turned on.
About twenty minutes ago I felt it. Panicky,nausea. I did try to check the site. It was down.

My thoughts is why is it taken offline? during some pretty horrid earthquakes they have taken the pages away. Just poof its gone. But the whole website? I am sure it could be a web maintenance thing. But on the off chance it is not I wanted to share my ideas on the matter.

What if they are using haarp for earthquakes? I mean unless we built it we truly do not know one way or the other. so many things can and can not be true.

What if its true? What if the whole new madrid is not just an exercise? What if? I know lots of what ifs. Just saying. I have not posted in a long time. Just needed to spread this as it seems important to me.

Thanks
Lisa B.

[Lisa]

http://www.dtic.mil/descriptivesum/Y2009/AirForce/0602601F.pdf

Not sure if this link is a true thing or not. was wondering if anyone can check this. it seems kind of important if true. much thanks.

[shipgeek]

Piers Corbyn said major earthquake risks in the next comiing days. He saw the Myanmar (Burma) and Japan earthquakes.

[Lisa]

I have not even been on twitter to see his predictions. I like him a lot. I think its awesome how he predicts weather etc.

[Lisa]

I didnt watch the entire thing my honey had it dvr'd. sighs. so that explains why haarp web sites are all down. I have been going to every site I can get ahold of. none of the haarp sites are up. the fl ca va au the only one I got was in begium. that was the only one up.

[WakeUpAmerica]

I have not even been on twitter to see his predictions. I like him a lot. I think its awesome how he predicts weather etc.

Is this a joke post? You seriously like Piers Corbyn? He proved himself to be nothing other than an inane, babbling and wholly ignorant inutile man-baby. Seriously, he is such an imbecile it is absolutely incredible. He was just goading Ventura in an attempt to get him to say something Piers could use as a soundbite. Let's put aside the fact that some British douche challenges a former governor's patriotism.. God this just makes me sick, especially that people take him seriously and it is even more depressing that someone on this forum would listen to him and give him credence.

[BranstonPickle]

I agree that HAARP is probably highly active right now.  Whenever I get chest pains and severe tiredness, I suspect HAARP to be the culprit.  I was not able to look up the activity, due to time constraints - and being so tired, I just wanted to sleep all the time - but last week, Houston got chem-trailed in the old fashioned way - you know, with the big X and obvious lines.  Haven't seen it like that in some time.  There was also the rippled effect all over the sky, which I believe is indicative of HAARP activity.

It would be interesting to see the monitors right now...

[WakeUpAmerica]

You can't blame every random medical problem on HAARP. Guys this is completely ridiculous, just think about what you're saying: they're HAARPing Houston. Yet nothing happened. No Earthqakes, nothing. Also why on Earth would electromagnetic fluctuations and ionosphere manipulation make you have chest pains and fatigue? Sure, a really advanced electromagnetic device could stop your heart but really? HAARP? How exactly do you think electromagnetism makes you fatigued?  I'm sorry there is just so little logic in this topic I thought I needed to come in here and give you guys a reality check. Maybe the chest pains are from arteriosclerosis due to McDonalds and the fatigue is a byproduct of it. Maybe the chest pains are from hypertension and so is the fatigue from eating poorly. Maybe you have high blood pressure. Maybe you have a vitamin deficiency. Basically HAARP should be the last possible thing on your list. Get real. You're more likely to get "extraordinary rendition"-d than HAARP'd.

[attietewd]

THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS
by: Hall, Joe



Joe Hall is the founder of Clarus Systems in San Clemente California. For the past 20 years, he has explored the effects of man-made electromagnetic field (EMF) radiation on human health and psychology, and has developed a family of devices to neutralize these negative effects and restore our own energy field to create healthier home, work and personal environments, and less stress and fatigue. Clarus Technology has been used by Bell Atlantic to reduce soft memory errors on stressed computer systems. Clarus Coherent Polarizing Field Effect "aligns" random charged particles (non-binary photons) associated with all EMF frequencies to produce an infinitely small trace of coherent binary photons.

SOURCES OF ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION In the last six years, our research group has made a lot of breakthroughs in understanding how electromagnetic fields affect living systems, not just humans, but plants, animals, and all living systems. Electro-magnetic fields (EMFs) come from everything that uses electricity in our world today. Every light fixture generates an EMF. Fluorescent lights at work or even in your home have transformers. The three biggest sources of electromagnetic radiation in our environment are transformers, either stepping up voltage or stepping down voltage. Fluorescent lights use step-up transformers to step the voltage up because they use much higher voltage than ordinary incandescent lights. An example of a step-down transformer would be halogen lighting which use much lower voltage. The neighbourhood transformers that step down voltage from the higher voltage neighbourhood distribution lines that bring electricity to our homes are step-down transformers and they generate very strong electromagnetic radiation fields. Another large source of EMF's in our environment are motors. Any electric motor generates very very strong EM radiation, for example an electric shaver. In fact, studies have shown that just a few minutes exposure to that kind of a field will affect you for more than 24 hours.

THREE MAJOR SOURCES OF EXTREMELY LOW FREQUENCY FIELDS (ELFs) EMFs are in the category of what we call extremely low frequency fields or ELFs. Generally, anything that is working off the utility grid, things you plug in to the electrical plugs in your home and office, generate extremely low frequency fields defined as 60 cycles or less alternating current. That is the classic definition of ELF. However, modern electronics, TV's, stereo systems and computers, all the electronics generate high frequency fields when they are plugged in. Appliances generate higher frequency fields as well. The other big source of very very strong fields are cathode ray tubes, video display terminals, TV's monitors, all those kinds of things.

EMF AND THE PINEAL GLAND How many of you remember your parents saying don't sit too close to the television? What do we do when we work on computers? How close do we sit? Right up next to it. Most people working in front of a computer are eventually going to become environmentally sensitive because the pineal gland is chronically stressed, not only when we are sitting in front of the computer, but all the time. We are exposed to electromagnetic radiation every waking, sleeping moment, every moment of our lives. The only time you are not chronically exposed to EM radiation is when you are out in a wilderness area, far, far away. When you hike in the wilderness you feel different. When you camp, you sleep fantastically well, you are emotionally balanced and mentally clear.

MELATONIN The most sensitive part of your body to EM radiation is your eyes and the pineal gland. The pineal gland controls all the hormonal balances in your body. One of the most important hormones it controls is melatonin. Many people have multiple chemical sensitivities, or environmental illnesses - they are universal reactors who have chronic fatigue or fibromyalgia. All these things have been closely linked to low melatonin. Melatonin is related to the day or night sleep cycle and to jet lag when we travel by plane. Some people take melatonin so their body can reset itself more easily because that is exactly what melatonin does. When the pineal gland is stressed, melatonin levels go down, and the first thing that occurs is sleep problems. In addition, our immune system's ability to target chemicals in the body and metabolize them safely out of the body is decreased because melatonin does that for us. Our exposure to chemicals in our environment is unfortunately rapidly increasing every day. The other thing that melatonin does is help the body find abnormal cell growth. There have been media reports about the relationship between EMF and cancer. We don't think there is a direct relationship, but there may be an indirect relationship because EMF's put stress on the body and reduce the immune system's ability to deal normally with abnormal cell growth.

HIGH FREQUENCY FIELDS (HF) Examples of high frequency fields are microwave ovens, cellular phones, all wireless forms of communication, and TV and radio broadcasts. According to one top British researcher quoted in Reader's Digest 1980, who specializes in studying the negative effects of EM fields on human energy, the most rapidly growing forms of communications proliferating on this planet today are wireless, satellite, microwaves, and cellular. In the article, he stated that according to his research from 1940 to 1980, our daily exposure to electromagnetic radiation in industrialized countries has increased by a factor of 100 million times. You feel more stressed today than you did ten years ago because EMF's are still inundating us at a rapidly proliferating rate.

EMF'S CAUSE STRESS The physical body becomes stressed in ways we can directly measure. If we sent 1,000 people to a wilderness area and instrumented them with electromyography (EKG sensors) to read muscle tension and stress levels in their bodies over a 15 minute period, we would find that some would be relaxed and some stressed out. If we then induced artificially made electromagnetic radiation similar to that in a properly wired suburban home (one-half to one milligauss per square meter), we would see a big jump in everybody's stress level, a direct physiological response. Then if we increased the level to three to five milligauss per square meter as we might find in an office environment with all the fluorescent lights, computers, fax machines and copy machines, all that great stuff, we will see another big jump in stress levels. Maybe that's why people don't like to work very much, and why our work is so stressful. We live in a totally different world than our grandparents did. Every new cellular phone added to the environment you live in creates more physical stress in your life, and when the physical body is stressed, the emotional body goes into tunnel vision, into survival mode.

When we have a lot of magnetic radiation passing through us with a lot of random sub-particles, creating an enormous irritation to the limbic brain, the limbic brain perceives that as omni-directional low-grade physical threat to our survival. That invokes an adrenal response. Virtually 99% of people who live in industrialized countries have weak adrenal systems because we are constantly under assault. Do cellular phone companies care about this? Do the computer manufacturers and utility companies care about this? They should because they live in the same environment that we do. They have children who are being affected.

THE TWO COMPONENTS OF ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION Electromagnetic radiation has two components. There is a weak electrical field and a strong magnetic field. The electrical field, for example from your computer, goes out maybe one or two inches. This shows up as static, or positive ions, and attracts dust to your screen. Actually, both the electric and magnetic fields are full of random sub-particles, but the stronger field, the magnetic field travels at right angles to the magnetic field and goes out typically 10 or 20 times as far. The magnetic field affects us more strongly, and passes through virtually all materials; it goes through things like lead very easily. So if you have a screen in front of your computer to protect yourself from radiation, it's not protecting you at all from the magnetic field even though it may be called an "anti-rad" screen. It is only protecting you from the electrical field.

If you live in an apartment, the magnetic fields from your neighbours' TV's, computers, appliances, and microwaves are right on the other side of your wall, could even be on the other side of where you sleep, going right through into your living space from above, below and from both sides. When you are in your office sitting at your desk, there could be a fluorescent fixture right below you. Telephone switching systems have huge magnetic fields. They might be right on the other side of the wall from you and may eventually cause your system to break down.

PROPERTIES OF EMF'S Electromagnetic radiation is a frequency which is a perfect sine wave of energy passing through every cell of your body every second of the day. The sources of electromagnetic radiation are multiple and they are coupled. These frequencies in turn are made up of sub-particles called electrons and photons. Photons in quantum physics are thought of as packets or bits of information. They are either on or off, yes or no. They are binary. That is how they carry information. Some of these photons are coherent and some of them are random. If all the photons were coherent, your television and computer would feel incredibly good to you. This is passing through every cell in your body, and it would feel great if it were totally organized. Unfortunately the random photons have a lot of noise, or random sub-particle energy, associated with them.

THE BIO-ENERGY FIELD The body has an energy field - more accurately, the bio-energy field has a body. That bio-energy field is a field of light encoded information. In the ancient Celtic tradition they had a word for photon called "lutz" or light encoded information. You can think of that bioenergy field as a holographic image of yourself. There is a holographic image of yourself for every cell in your body, every molecule in your body, and one for all of you. We relate to this physical body as reality just as we relate to this table as reality. Literally they are holographic morphogenic images of energy. There is a vast distance in between every nucleus of the atom and its electrons, and in between there is just vacuum, space, nothing else. That is what physical reality is made up of. So literally, our bodies are really holographic images. Holographic images of reality are held together by photons that carry information that tell everything above them, the electrons and the atoms, and everything below them where they need to be and what they need to do. Photons remember where everything is. They have memory and they have information carrying potential.

MAKING DISORGANIZED ENERGY FIELDS COHERENT The solution to electromagnetic radiation is very simple. It is basically getting the photons to make up their minds, to realize who they are, linking the photons to their higher self, organizing them. This would allow the photons to have a frequency wave form that is infinitely coherent and infinitely small passing through you transparently. These coherent fields make everything more of what it is. It is not creating any specialized effect one way or the other. Everything is more defined. Everything works better. Our research group stumbled upon this theory through a series of interesting accidental discoveries.

We have the ability to create fields in crystals and in circuit boards which have a lot of crystalline material in them like silicone, and cause these devices when they are plugged in to create fields which are non-Hertzian subtle energy fields that literally polarize random photons. They potentiate them and accelerate them one way or the other to produce a coherent energy field instead of a random energy field. We discovered that when you add a quartz crystal oscillator to the circuit, it starts polarizing to your unique bioenergy field signature. Crystals have the property of being able to stabilize and amplify our energy fields or any energy fields. That is why tiny chips of crystal are used in computers. That is why quartz clocks are based on quartz crystals, so that when you apply an electrical charge to them, they amplify it or they oscillate at a very specific frequency.

THE CLARUS SYSTEM DEVICES Our main system for homes, the home device, uses a quartz crystal oscillator, and has a clock display built into it, so that you can use it as a clock. People like that because they can take it to work and it looks just like a clock, not some weird thing that people ask about. It has an effective radius of 35 feet, so that if you have a little home, it would go beyond, and the neighbours close to you would have some benefit. We have a little device called a Power Clear system that looks like a surge protector for computers. When you use this device on a computer, you will feel instantly different. By the end of the first day, you will have so much more energy, and much less eye strain. It is good for your computer as well. We have a product called the Q-link which you can wear around your neck. We also have a device for cars. And we have an advanced home or office system that has a 50 foot radius.

WE ARE ALL ELECTROMAGNETIC BEINGS The human body grounds electromagnetic radiation in the environment because of the electrical conductivity of our body. It is attracted to us. All living systems are based on electromagnetic energy. Every cell in your body is generating an electromagnetic field, every plant, every rock, the planet itself, the whole universe is made up of energy. It is true that man-made electromagnetic radiation is not the only source of random photons in the environment, but the problem is these frequencies which we have never encountered before are a whole different spectrum of frequencies than the living system uses.

http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=19990303201129


Seems to me when somebody actually defends Haarp something is wrong with that person.  I suppose you think fluoride actually prevents cavities and that vaccines are good for you.

[attietewd]

HAARP AND NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT AFFECT HUMAN BEHAVIOUR
by: Begich, Nick, MD


Dr. Nick Begich is the eldest son of the late United States Congressman from Alaska, Dr. Nick Begich, Sr. Dr. Begich has served as an expert witness and speaker before European parliament and has lectured on various issues to groups representing statesmen, elected officials, scientists, citizen concerns and others. He has published articles throughout the world on new technologies, politics, health and science, and his books include Angels Don't Play this HAARP: Advances in Tesla Technology, and Earth Rising: The Revolution Toward a Thousand Years of Peace.

WHAT IS HAARP?
HAARP stands for High-frequency Active Auroral Research Project. HAARP is a joint project by the U.S. Navy and Air Force in Alaska to create a very large radio frequency transmitter which can transmit an electromagnetic beam into the upper atmosphere or ionosphere. This radio-frequency energy is broadcast through a field of 48 antennas which are 72 feet tall and they have a cross diapoled across the top. Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto Earth and penetrate everything--living and dead. Normally, radio frequency energy dissipates with distance, but by firing them in a unique way, the energy is focussed and a cyclotron resonance effect occurs. This produces very much more concentrated and potent energy when it delivers its load either through magnetic lines of force or to the ionosphere. The cyclotron resonance energy wraps itself around these magnetic lines and it moves north to south. This was intended to create a shielding effect during a nuclear attack. The ideal place to locate these instruments happens to be in the northern regions where the magnetic lines of force intersect the planet, and the research project was located in Alaska.

FREQUENCY RANGES IN THE HUMAN BRAIN
The human brain predominantly operates on a frequency of between one and 30 pulses per second, cycles per second Hertz, and it varies. One to four pulses per second is the delta range. This is where you are in your deepest, deepest sleep. The next level is theta, which is about 4 to 7 cycles per second. This is the range where you are in that semi-awake, semi-asleep stage where you are sort of drifting off. You are aware of your dreams but are aware you are awake. This is where most three to five-year-olds spend most of their lives, which explains an awful lot. But it is also where they learn a tremendous amount. This is where they learn language, social skills, everything that kids learn between the ages of three and five. This is also the state where a lot of people re-experience childhood events, because that is where you are when you are a child. The next stage is the alpha stage, which goes from about 7 to 12 Hertz. This is where you are when you do your most creative and intellectual work. It is interesting to note that the planet Earth pulses at Schumann's Resonance which is 7.83 Hertz. That is the ideal frequency for human beings to be engaged in, and we are separated from that because we are surrounded by Tesla's invention of 60 cycles of AC current which is agitating to most of our systems. The next level is beta. Low beta is where we are actively engaged in learning and thinking and dialogue. You are in high beta when you get agitated and angry, when you have high, strong emotions.

EFFECTS OF ELF ON THE BRAIN
The problem is that external signals like the radio frequency signals of HAARP, and any electromagnetic signals from light and sound waves that can be pulsed in this ELF range will cause the brain to begin to lock onto that external signal and begin to mirror it. When it does so, it changes the character and chemistry of the brain during that period of time and your behaviour changes. Early researchers have claimed that these ELF concentrations of energy are harmless, but over the last 20 years, researchers have recognized that very low energy concentrations can have profound physiological effects. The military rationalizes that HAARP instruments broadcast the signal in the ELF range and this is a very, very low level of electromagnetic radiation by the time it gets back to the earth, that it is nothing to worry about, that it is about equal to what the earth naturally produces. They compare it to things like the flickering of the television set.

ZAPPING THE BODY WITH ELF
However, Jose Delgado at Yale University researched radio frequency energy, and discovered that he could influence the brain using a pulsed radio frequency signal concentration at one-fiftieth of the energy that the earth naturally produces, and this was sufficient to change the behaviour of primates and humans like flipping on and off a light switch. It was not the magnitude of energy, but its specific frequency which triggered events within the brain, changed brain chemistry and consequently changed behaviour. A few years ago, a story was released about children having epileptic seizures from watching a cartoon on television. A reaction in the brain was caused by the flicker rate hitting one of these frequencies inadvertently. It wasn't the amount of energy; it was the frequency. It is like dialing a radio station. In between stations, you hear static. When you hit a resonant frequency, a signal that corresponds to the receiver, you get a clear signal.

The same is true of the human body. Every organ, every chemical, every element within our body has a unique resonant frequency that can be measured. In fact, the basic organs of the body have been measured for radio frequency symmetry by the University of Utah under contract with the United States Air Force. The study is cited in our books. You can look it up. They have actually determined the amount of radio frequency energy each part of the body can tolerate. So if you want to stop a heart, you know how to do it. This is kind of a gross application of the technology. A more refined application would be to target a chemical or chemical compound within the population that is present in all of us, that is universal. For instance, if you send a signal that resonates at the same frequency as iodine, you trick the body into thinking it has been poisoned by iodine. And you have a mystery illness which doesn't show on tests because the iodine is not there. This can be used in lots of different ways. If everyone breaths in a substance during war, you can send energy that amplifies its effect, and you can create some pretty horrendous special effects.

The idea that HAARP inadvertently or purposefully might be used in this way is kind of shocking. In Between Two Ages (p.54-56), Zbigniew Brezinski, previous National Security Advisor to President Carter, discussed triggering an event in the ionosphere that could affect human behaviour. Referring to research out of UCLA by Gordon MacDonald, Brezinski suggested that if you could electronically stroke the ionosphere in just the right way to return a signal in the ELF range, you could manipulate the emotions of a population of a large geographic area. Between Two Ages is about technology's impact on society, culture and economies, and it gave a 25-year forecast of what was going to happen globally. It was written in the early '70s, so it reads like a history because it is dead right on. In Earth Rising: The Revolution, our latest book, we cite a CIA experiment in which they actually tried this in Eastern Europe. There is plenty of evidence that the Russians were doing this to us. Remember the macrowave beaming of the U.S. Embassy? There are reports of Russian research where they exposed primates to this same signal. This research is still classified because it caused disruption of physical health.

SAFETY LEVELS IN THE BIOSCIENCES
The U.S. military research projects are separated into very distinct sub-sections so that no one really sees how it all connects except at a certain level of government. This is done for security reasons within the United States. It is the opposite in the former Soviet Union, which brings multi-disciplinary teams from the biological sciences, physics and the hard sciences together to investigate a topic, so that they can benefit from the knowledge of other disciplines. As a result, the Soviets had standards that were 1,000 times more stringent than U.S. standards of electromagnetic exposures because they had the expertise to see what subtle energy could do to your health. The root of HAARP research is to control and manipulate environmental factors for military advantage. There are no biological sciences or electrophysiologists associated with the HAARP project, meaning that the health effects of this system aren't really being monitored at all.

REFERENCES TO MIND-ALTERING TECHNOLOGY IN GOVERNMENT AND CORPORATE REPORTS
What is happening in weapons systems, of which HAARP is one tiny minute infinitesimal particle is going to be unbelievable. Earth Rising: The Revolution documents the issue of mind control technologies. We analyzed the U.S. patent record, and found over three dozen U.S. patents dealing with this technology and its advancement from the early 1960s to present time. We found military and academic reports talking about future advancement in this area. You can externally influence what goes on within the human brain. The military is talking about doing this wirelessly. An electromagnetic signal from a distance can enter the human body and be decoded by the brain and perceived as speech, creating the illusion of a voice in the head.

Full Article:http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20011005223152

[WakeUpAmerica]

http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=19990303201129


Seems to me when somebody actually defends Haarp something is wrong with that person.  I suppose you think fluoride actually prevents cavities and that vaccines are good for you.

Seems to me when someone doesn't understand what a peer-reviewed scientific journal is, their opinions on scientific matters are completely null and void. Don't tell me "oh they would never publish it because the system is against it, man" because that is total BS. There are independent scientific journals that regularly publish extremely controversial papers like ones that find positive evidence of Psi, health benefits of meditation, intercessory prayer benefits, etc. I also like how you go on to bring up things which actually have a scientific backing against them. You're committing so many logical fallacies I would spend all night enumerating them. Let me be simple: internalized sodium flouride is dangerous, no one who isn't paid off by a government agency thinks otherwise as it is just simple logic: topical application =/= oral, therefore the logically unfounded leap to "drinking flouride is good for your teeth" has no basis in reality or science. Additionally, ALL of the studies behind sodium flouride are methodologically flawed to the point where no scientific journal would ever publish them. Vaccines are the same. Show me a scientific study saying that ionospheric manipulation that directly effects the Earth's magnetic fields has ANYTHING to do with chest pain or fatigue. Oh wait, you can't. You'll only find more sites run by wanna-be scientists or people with Ph.D's from an online school/diploma mill. Sorry but everything you just said makes it clear that you fall into the category of the original poster as well, that is, fear-based reactionary thinker, not a fact-based critical thinker. Oh, and just in case I wasn't clear, that is not a good thing. You would easily eat up the disinformation put out by some government shill capitalizing off people like you to perpetuate conspiracy theories that discredit the entire truth movement. It's like David Icke talking about reptilians, it is a guaranteed way to lose all of your credibility and never help other people awaken to the truth because they're too busy laughing in their head about how idiotic the theory is.

You should really worry about facts. There are a lot more REAL dangers out there, we don't need to go around thinking that HAARP is giving people chest pain and fatigue in Houston. I mean, really? You can't seriously think that has any basis in reality.

[decepticon]

There is no thing endowed with life—from man, who is enslaving the elements, to the nimblest creature—in all this world that does not sway in its turn. Whenever action is born from force, though it be infinitesimal, the cosmic balance is upset and the universal motion results.

-Tesla

[attietewd]

You should really worry about facts. There are a lot more REAL dangers out there, we don't need to go around thinking that HAARP is giving people chest pain and fatigue in Houston. I mean, really? You can't seriously think that has any basis in reality.

And I can see by the number of your posts that you haven't read hardly any of the articles on HAARP here at Prison Planet Forum because if you had you wouldn't take the stand you are right now.  It sounds foolish to be discrediting something you haven't researched.  I say you haven't researched it because your reply is void of anything substantial other than your own opinion.  Print proof of what you say.  I don't want to hear your opinion.

[WakeUpAmerica]

Sorry I don't have the time to read that other article, I am studying for a Chemistry exam, but I scrolled through it extremely briefly and saw this:
Electro-cranial stimulation is the use of electric current for creating brain entrainment within those ranges that are effective for learning or creative work.
Wrong. CES is Cranial Electrotherapy Stimulation, which is completely experimental (unproven) and in the development stages. It is used for severe psychiatric disorders, not for what he thinks it is. Also he got the name completely wrong which makes me think he isn't familiar with it.
Light devices A pulsing light can be used to entrain the brain to move it into various states of consciousness. One of my children used to have trouble sleeping and I used to use this tool for him because it was really effective. Within about five minutes he was asleep.
Wrong. No one has been able to experimentally prove this idea. Some people are receptive to it while others have absolutely no reaction. You can't "move your brain into various states of consciousness" anyways, brainwave entrainment doesn't suddenly change your thoughts or feelings. Brainwave entrainment can be used in conjunction with relaxation techniques or I use it a lot when studying (binaural audio stimulation not lights obviously) and it seems to help but there is really no true noticeable effect and it definitely doesn't "move my brain" into another state of consciousness.
Sound A technique that is used in conjunction with sound is a bi-aural beep. The human ear cannot hear these extremely low frequencies. One sound wave will come in one ear at say 17,000 Hertz (or cycles per second). Another will come in the other ear at 17,008 Hertz. The 17,000 cancels and leaves a standing beep frequency of 8, which correlates to the alpha rhythm, and your brain locks into that beat rhythm and begins to mirror it and go through chemical changes, not just in the way you think but how your thinking is focused.
Again, wrong. Same reason stated above. Begich might be an MD but it is clear to me that he has not had any neuroscientific training, or at least not recently.

Basically I think he might be right about a lot of stuff as I've heard him on Alex's show before and he says true things but he doesn't have all of his facts straight. I think he is confusing TMS (Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation or more commonly known as rTMS) with CES. TMS (not CES) HAS been shown to bring massive and pronounced changes in consciousness. Michael Persinger has done many experiments with a TMS system called the "God helmet" which makes people have extremely ecstatic, blissful and usually religious experiences. Really interesting stuff. They also test how TMS can inhibit speech to study speech areas of the brain and many more, but CES is highly specific and should not be confused with TMS. The sound/light stuff is totally anecdotal. I don't know anyone who has experienced any real changes in consciousness from either techniques and I'm into this kind of stuff. I wish it worked like he said it did but it just doesn't.

[agentbluescreen]

So what do you think they are doing? Programmting Ben Bernanke's brain,  jamming Russian radio, cruising for advance earthquake data, Steady EMPing North Korea, nuking Libya, passing intel to Red Chinese subs, sending time cops back in time liquidate Zapruder, putting Stuxnet on Sarkozy's or Gaddafi's iPhones or watching the World Wrestling Championship from Andromeda?

Maybe they're sending signals back to their alien planet.

[grapecrusher1]

Is this a joke post? You seriously like Piers Corbyn? He proved himself to be nothing other than an inane, babbling and wholly ignorant inutile man-baby. Seriously, he is such an imbecile it is absolutely incredible. He was just goading Ventura in an attempt to get him to say something Piers could use as a soundbite. Let's put aside the fact that some British douche challenges a former governor's patriotism.. God this just makes me sick, especially that people take him seriously and it is even more depressing that someone on this forum would listen to him and give him credence.

Yes you are way off.

this guy--  CORBYN


not this guy  -- MORGAN (pierce not piers)


good luck on the exam because scrutiny isnt your strong suit.

Avogadro's number = 6.0221415 × 10 to the 23

[WakeUpAmerica]

And I can see by the number of your posts that you haven't read hardly any of the articles on HAARP here at Prison Planet Forum because if you had you wouldn't take the stand you are right now.  It sounds foolish to be discrediting something you haven't researched.  I say you haven't researched it because your reply is void of anything substantial other than your own opinion.  Print proof of what you say.  I don't want to hear your opinion.

...are you serious? Do a little reading:
http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Doi=119247&Scope=archiv (pulses of high-frequency EM fields have a small effect on EEGs during sleep. People's hearts didn't explode or their brains melt) although I know you're going to object that HAARP uses ELF waves so here:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/eael1nx1ymblvj2h/
Exposure to extremely-low-frequency electromagnetic fields and radiofrequency radiation: cardiovascular effects in humans
most studies have revealed no acute effect of static or time-varying ELF EMFs on the blood pressure, heart rate, or electrocardiogram waveform, others have reported subtle effects on the heart rate. The possible health consequences of these results are unknown. Regarding long-term effects of ELF EMFs, reports from the former Soviet Union in the early 1960s indicated arrhythmias and tachycardia in high-voltage-switchyard workers. Subsequent studies in Western countries, however, did not confirm these findings. These studies are limited by uncertainties regarding exposure durations and appropriate control groups. Investigations of acute cardiovascular changes in humans purposely exposed to RFR have been limited to studies of magnetic resonance imaging (which, in addition to RFR, involves static and time-varying magnetic fields). It has been concluded that such exposures, as presently performed, are not likely to cause adverse cardiovascular effects. Reports of hypertension in workers potentially exposed to high levels of RFR during accidents are considered to be incidental (due to anxiety and posttraumatic stress). Soviet investigators have also indicated that long-term RFR exposure may result in hypotension and bradycardia or tachycardia. Other researchers, however, have been incapable of replicating these results, and some scientists have attributed the effects to chance variations and mishandling of data. In summary, studies have not yielded any obvious cardiovascular-related hazards of acute or long-term exposures to ELF EMFs or RFR at levels below current exposure standards.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/%28SICI%291521-186X%281998%2919:4%3C222::AID-BEM4%3E3.0.CO;2-3/abstract
Human osteoblastic cells were grown in a three-dimensional (3-D) cell culture model and used to test the effects of a 20 Hz sinusoidal electromagnetic field (EMF; 6 mT and 113 mV/cm max) on collagen type I mRNA expression and extracellular matrix formation in comparison with the effects of growth factors. The cells were isolated from trabecular bone of a healthy individual (HO-197) and from a patient presenting with myositis ossificans (MO-192) and grown in a collagenous sponge-like substrate. Maximal enhancement of collagen type I expression after EMF treatment was 3.7-fold in HO-197 cells and 5.4-fold in MO-192 cells. Similar enhancement was found after transforming growth factor-β (TGF-β) and insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) treatment. Combined treatment of the cells with EMF and the two growth factors TGF-β and IGF-I did not act synergistically. MO-192 cells produced an osteoblast-characteristic extracellular matrix containing collagen type I, alkaline phosphatase, and osteocalcin, together with collagen type III, TP-1, and TP-3, two epitopes of an osteoblastic differentiation marker. The data suggest that the effects of EMFs on osteoblastic differentiation are comparable to those of TGF-β and IGF-I. We conclude that EMF effects in the treatment of skeletal disorders and in orthopedic adjuvant therapy are mediated via enhancement of collagen type I mRNA expression, which may lead to extensive extracellular matrix synthesis. Bioelectromagnetics 19:222–231, 1998. © 1998 Wiley-Liss, Inc.

http://pra.aps.org/abstract/PRA/v43/i2/p1039_1
Concerns have been raised over the possibility that extremely-low-frequency (ELF) electromagnetic fields are carcinogenic and leukegenic. An examination of the physical interaction of such fields with the body shows that such interactions are too weak to have a significant effect on human biology at the cell level. Because of the high electrical conductivity of tissues, the coupling of external electric fields in air to tissue in the body is such that the effects of the internal fields on cells is smaller than thermal noise. Static magnetic fields smaller than the earth’s field of 50 μT and varying fields weaker than the 4-μT 60-Hz fields that are equivalent in effect to that from walking in the earth’s field, cannot be expected to generate significant biological effects. Moreover, the interactions of such weak fields at the cell level are also small compared to thermal noise. These conclusions would be modified by 60-Hz cell resonances. But such resonances are shown to be incompatible with cell characteristics and the requirement from equipartition that the mean resonance energy must be kT. Hence, any biological effects of weak ELF fields on the cellular level must be found outside of the scope of conventional physics.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bem.20111/abstract
During the years 1990–2003, a large number of investigations were conducted using animals, cultured rodent and human cells as well as freshly collected human blood lymphocytes to determine the genotoxic potential of exposure to nonionizing radiation emitted from extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields (EMF). Among the 63 peer reviewed scientific reports, the conclusions from 29 studies (46%) did not indicate increased damage to the genetic material, as assessed from DNA strand breaks, incidence of chromosomal aberrations (CA), micronuclei (MN), and sister chromatid exchanges (SCE), in EMF exposed cells as compared with sham exposed and/or unexposed cells, while those from 14 investigations (22%) have suggested an increase in such damage in EMF exposed cells. The observations from 20 other studies (32%) were inconclusive. This study reviews the investigations published in peer reviewed scientific journals during 1990–2003 and attempts to identify probable reason(s) for the conflicting results. Recommendations are made for future research to address some of the controversial observations. Bioelectromagnetics 26:412–430, 2005. © 2005 Wiley-Liss, Inc.

And just to show you you're making false assumptions, I DO know that intermittent EMF fields have genotoxic effects. For laymen, that means negative effects on genes like when DNA strands are broken. This is REAL and PROVEN. Breaking DNA strands is a great way to soft-kill large populations as they just get hugely increased rates of cancer and have no idea why.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T2D-45WGJB8-3&_user=10&_coverDate=08%2F26%2F2002&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=gateway&_origin=gateway&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1707407912&_rerunOrigin=scholar.google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=6bff3ed785e6374341be0ff26becc46a&searchtype=a
Results of epidemiological research show low association of electromagnetic field (EMF) with increased risk of cancerous diseases and missing dose–effect relations. An important component in assessing potential cancer risk is knowledge concerning any genotoxic effects of extremely-low-frequency-EMF (ELF-EMF).

Human diploid fibroblasts were exposed to continuous or intermittent ELF-EMF (50 Hz, sinusoidal, 24 h, 1000 μT). For evaluation of genotoxic effects in form of DNA single- (SSB) and double-strand breaks (DSB), the alkaline and the neutral comet assay were used.

In contrast to continuous ELF-EMF exposure, the application of intermittent fields reproducibly resulted in a significant increase of DNA strand break levels, mainly DSBs, as compared to non-exposed controls. The conditions of intermittence showed an impact on the induction of DNA strand breaks, producing the highest levels at 5 min field-on/10 min field-off. We also found individual differences in response to ELF-EMF as well as an evident exposure–response relationship between magnetic flux density and DNA migration in the comet assay.

Our data strongly indicate a genotoxic potential of intermittent EMF. This points to the need of further studies in vivo and consideration about environmental threshold values for ELF exposure.


Okay so no where's your proof?

[WakeUpAmerica]

So what do you think they are doing? Programmting Ben Bernanke's brain,  jamming Russian radio, cruising for advance earthquake data, Steady EMPing North Korea, nuking Libya, passing intel to Red Chinese subs, sending time cops back in time liquidate Zapruder, putting Stuxnet on Sarkozy's or Gaddafi's iPhones or watching the World Wrestling Championship from Andromeda?

Maybe they're sending signals back to their alien planet.

Any of those has the same amount of probability as them using it to give people chest pain and fatigue in Houston, TX.

Also, my bad, Morgan, Corbyn, whatever. Piers is an unusual name and the last names sounded somewhat similar plus I was just watching his video with Ventura. Sorry for not searching first.

edit: I also have to say that post made me laugh really hard especially at putting Stuxnet on Qaddafi's iPhone

[attietewd]

Any of those has the same amount of probability as them using it to give people chest pain and fatigue in Houston, TX.

I"m sorry but I have read many government declassified articles and scientific journals all with links posted from right here at Prison Planet Forum by posters who have a passion for the truth.  They enlighten the likes of me.  They never use their own opinion they use links and truth.  You need to research here for the articles they have worked so hard to find and bring to the light of day.  When I see someone like you attempting to undermine all their hard work scoffing at the truths they have revealed it makes me sick.  I don't claim to be one of the info warriors here.  I am one of the ones who appreciate and read what they post.  I appreciate their passion for the truth and I have learned when someone comes here and starts spouting off what they know little about that it's usually a troll.  Trolls fight harder to defend the propaganda the enemy pushes rather than research first then comment.   It is already known the damage Haarp can do.
Here is one article  thanks to Dig....there are many more

http://whistleblowers.posterous.com/haarp

[shipgeek]

Don't you think your mobile phones/smart phones are more harmful to you than HAARP? Your mobile device is constantly hitting you with electro-magnetic fields.

These mobiles have been put out so all the sheep who own them and use them will get tumors and the pharmaceutical industry can feast on more $$$$$$$$$$. Nothing comes by chance.

Look at your mobile phones before you blame HAARP. Get rid of them.

[WakeUpAmerica]

Don't you think your mobile phones/smart phones are more harmful to you than HAARP? Your mobile device is constantly hitting you with electro-magnetic fields.

These mobiles have been put out so all the sheep who own them and use them will get tumors and the pharmaceutical industry can feast on more $$$$$$$$$$. Nothing comes by chance.

Look at your mobile phones before you blame HAARP. Get rid of them.

This is what I'm talking about. This has been verified over and over. Why would you assume that HAARP is causing the chest pains and fatigue instead of considering your cell, wireless router, wireless card on your laptop, remotes, etc. etc. We are blasted with EM pollution from so many sources that is extremely dangerous that HAARP really should only be considered when there is some indication of it like lights in the sky, strange sounds, etc. This occurred in Japan before the quake so that is what makes me give some credence to the idea that HAARP had something to do with it.

Also, attietewd, did you read my post? I literally presented all articles and have not spouted by opinion on things I "know little about". How am I defending propaganda? Again, you're acting so defensive it is clear to me that you come to these decisions through fear-based defensive thinking not proactive critical thinking. Also, the article you linked me to doesn't contain a single source that I saw. Saying "this Dr. said this, this Dr. said that" without giving a source is not proof. At all.

I also think it is worth mentioning that not all patents end up doing what they claim. Most do, but not all. Until I see some real proof, I'll stay on the side of knowledge and rational investigation than reading random uncited articles, ignoring science and confirmed dangerous sources of EM radiation, and obviously getting quite upset when someone challenges my ideas. How are you supposed to change anyone's mind when you sit there calling them a troll and ignoring their posts?

[agentbluescreen]

This is an interesting and IMHO highly believable explanation about what they are alleged to be doing:

listen carefully at 44-46 minutes in:

Leuren Moret - Scientists declare northern 1/3 of Japan uninhabitable and should be evacuated
VIDEO REPORT: http://vimeo.com/22003275

She explains quite coherently and believably how they may be using a manmade unnatural HAARP High Pressure 'oddly perfectly round and stationary' weather convection zone to pollute southern US and Mexico with most with their US Navy surplus nuclear reactor mess. Is this not an attack (act of war) on Mexico?

Better watch out for those Mexican fruits and veggies...  (it's unlikely they are even aware of this)

[BranstonPickle]

You can't blame every random medical problem on HAARP. Guys this is completely ridiculous, just think about what you're saying: they're HAARPing Houston. Yet nothing happened. No Earthqakes, nothing. Also why on Earth would electromagnetic fluctuations and ionosphere manipulation make you have chest pains and fatigue? Sure, a really advanced electromagnetic device could stop your heart but really? HAARP? How exactly do you think electromagnetism makes you fatigued?   I'm sorry there is just so little logic in this topic I thought I needed to come in here and give you guys a reality check. Maybe the chest pains are from arteriosclerosis due to McDonalds and the fatigue is a byproduct of it. Maybe the chest pains are from hypertension and so is the fatigue from eating poorly. Maybe you have high blood pressure. Maybe you have a vitamin deficiency. Basically HAARP should be the last possible thing on your list. Get real. You're more likely to get "extraordinary rendition"-d than HAARP'd.

Seriously?!  I know it sounds as thought I posted a random finger pointing post, but I do know my body, what effects it and when.  I have posted on here before about how I can physically feel the palpitations when a cell phone signal is being transmitted. I physically feel the effects of DC current from something like an electric razor - there are plenty of studies that show the effects of DC current.  Tests have not been able to detect the cause for my heart palpitations and pains. I have excellent blood pressure, cholesterol and no signs of heart disease whatsoever.  

You doubt the ability of HAARP effecting the heart?  I know you understand the concept of HAARP. Look up defibrillation. Look up the effects of Wi-Fi and cell towers. Come on!

As for fatigue - that is a symptom of impaired heart function - it goes hand in hand.

As I said, I know my body - I know how I feel near electrical pylons, cell towers, Wi-Fi, DC current, in Hospitals and other places that are drowning in devices just pouring out these types of signals.

Also, don't forget that HAARP doesn't always mean earthquake.  imho, in the recent cases of chemtrailing and HAARP activity, it is about the weather and/or possibily communications. Who knows

Finishing comment - I just read the rest of the thread - I should have done that first. I still think that we cannot rule HAARP out as a possibility.  It doesn't help that the website is down whenever I suspect and want to check the monitor...

[WakeUpAmerica]

I'll agree with you that it cannot be completely ruled out. That would be the same as saying I know that it definitely caused it. Both would be wrong since there is zero evidence and no way for me to assess the claims beyond falling back on other studies. I know a lot about EM, physics, anatomy, biology, physionogomy, biophysics, etc. An AED does not employ EM fields at all comparable to HAARP. Nor do any of the other technologies you mentioned. Look at the studies I posted. ELF EM pulses can be used to SSD and DSD DNA manipulation which would be a lot more effective for long term population control and eugenics than anything you mentioned. Feeling odd is nothing compared to a giant tumor or babies with no limbs. IMO it is much more logical and fact based to conclude that if HAARP was being employed to implement the globalists' depopulation agenda via covert, purposeful, and malicious DNA mutation.

You're welcome to believe whatever you please but I go off facts, otherwise I'm no better than the fearmongering and deceptive and usually completely wrong main stream media

[BranstonPickle]

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You're welcome to believe whatever you please but I go off facts, otherwise I'm no better than the fearmongering and deceptive and usually completely wrong main stream media

I agree that much is assumptive, and don't hear me saying that my thoughts and feelings on this should be considered anything otherwise. I also don't think that something such as my episodic physiological symptoms are the intent of HAARP - currently at least.  I do think that it's current use is communication and/or weather mod specific, and it has its side-effects just like many other technologies.

It is interesting for sure, and good to discuss possibilities.  Like a detective, we can often make a picture from a host of clues.