Tweaking the climate to save it: Who decides? (Yahoo Headline!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

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Offline Neysanight

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110403/ap_on_hi_te/eu_the_sunshade_option

I just cut a few interesting bits from the article for those of you who dont want to read the whole thing.


CHICHELEY, England – To the quiet green solitude of an English country estate they retreated, to think the unthinkable.

Scientists of earth, sea and sky, scholars of law, politics and philosophy: In three intense days cloistered behind Chicheley Hall's old brick walls, four dozen thinkers pondered the planet's fate as it grows warmer, weighed the idea of reflecting the sun to cool the atmosphere and debated the question of who would make the decision to interfere with nature to try to save the planet.

The unknown risks of "geoengineering" — in this case, tweaking Earth's climate by dimming the skies — left many uneasy.

Those techniques are necessarily limited in scale, however, and unable to alter planet-wide warming. Only one idea has emerged with that potential.

"By most accounts, the leading contender is stratospheric aerosol particles," said climatologist John Shepherd of Britain's Southampton University.

Many here worried that someone, some group, some government would decide on its own to conduct large-scale atmospheric experiments, raising global concerns — and resentment if it's the U.S. that acts, since it has done the least among industrial nations to cut greenhouse emissions. They fear some in America might push for going straight to "Plan B," rather than doing the hard work of emissions reductions.

In addition, "one of the challenges is identifying intentions, one of which could be offensive military use," said Indian development specialist Arunabha Ghosh.

Experts point out, for example, that cloud experimentation or localized solar "dimming" could — intentionally or unintentionally — cause droughts or floods in neighboring areas, arousing suspicions and international disputes.






Offline Jon W

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110403/ap_on_hi_te/eu_the_sunshade_option

"CHICHELEY, England To the quiet green solitude of an English country estate they retreated, to think the unthinkable.
Scientists of earth, sea and sky, scholars of law, politics and philosophy: In three intense days cloistered behind Chicheley Hall's old brick walls, four dozen thinkers pondered the planet's fate as it grows warmer, weighed the idea of reflecting the sun to cool the atmosphere and debated the question of who would make the decision to interfere with nature to try to save the planet."

This is for real. This is it. They are tipping their hand. But, in a way, so as to get public support behind it. Guess it has become so obvious that it is going on. And I was in doubt that this was real....not now.

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In addition, "one of the challenges is identifying intentions, one of which could be offensive military use," said Indian development specialist Arunabha Ghosh.

Experts point out, for example, that cloud experimentation or localized solar "dimming" could intentionally or unintentionally cause droughts or floods in neighboring areas, arousing suspicions and international disputes.

"In some plausible but unfortunate future you could have shooting wars between your country and mine over proposals on what to do on climate change,' said the University of Michigan's Ted Parson, an environmental policy expert.


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The conferees worried, too, that a "geoengineering industrial complex" might emerge, pushing to profit from deployment of its technology. And Australian economist-ethicist Clive Hamilton saw other go-it-alone threats "cowboys" and "scientific heroes."

"I'm queasy about some billionaire with a messiah complex having a major role in geoengineering research," Hamilton said.

All discussions led to the central theme of how to oversee research.

Many environmentalists categorically oppose intentional fiddling with Earth's atmosphere, or at least insist that such important decisions rest in the hands of the U.N., since every nation on Earth has a stake in the skies above.

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Offline Paranoid Puppet Master

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I wonder how long before they say we need a global geo-engineering tax to pay for all this, or maybe they'll screw up the climate on purpose, so no one can say "this wasn't man-made" and then since so many countries agreed to this, we should all pay for fixing it with a global climate fix-up tax.

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Offline Neysanight

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Maybe all of that aluminum and barium will protect us from the Fukushima radiation?

NOT >:(

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If you have netflix instant watch,  check out "Owning the Weather".  It's a pro-geoengineering documentary that came out in 2009.  They're not trying to hide it anymore.  

Here's the trailer
http://youtu.be/_VNY2j9nGsY