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« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2011, 07:46:11 PM »

yeah right.  Quadaffi "attacked his people."  Oh so horribly, in attacking hospitals and apartments, killing people!

Please tell me.  Why would a man "arm his people with million guns" and place himself to "rule over them," and then go attack them!  A would-be ruler doesn't start out by killing his people as a way to remain in power...

It doesn't even begin to make sense.

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« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2011, 07:47:02 PM »

Why would Obama want the people of Libya to be free and not under a dictator?  What a joke!

President Bush, Obama himself have declared themselves dictators and that the Constitution and Congress are merely ceremonial.

oh, NATO is now taking over for American forces in Libya.  Hello!  NATO is comprised of American Troops!!

Wake up to the LIES of 27 minutes !!!  He doesn't even lie well -- you can hear him falter.  Sincerity?  What a joke.

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« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2011, 07:53:47 PM »

You're thinking too much. Cool

Freeski!  hahahaaa   Cheesy
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« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2011, 07:57:11 PM »

Amazing how people will swallow the same BS over and over again.
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« Reply #44 on: March 28, 2011, 08:18:55 PM »

Amazing how people will swallow the same BS over and over again.


Yes it is. It's too bad but the sound byte won this round.
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« Reply #45 on: March 28, 2011, 08:21:51 PM »

Is this for real??? source newsmax.com
Vice President Joe Biden has a very clear idea of what should happen to a president who orders U.S. military forces to launch an attack on a foreign country without congressional authorization: impeachment.

With some voices saying President Barack Obama should face impeachment for attacking Moammar Gadhafi’s forces in Libya, a videotape has surfaced from the 2007 campaign trail showing Biden threatening to impeach President George W. Bush if he attacked Iran without the approval of Congress.

“I have written an extensive legal memorandum with the help of a group of legal scholars who are sort of a stable of people, the best-known constitutional scholars in America, because for 17 years I was chairman of the Judiciary Committee,” Biden said in an interview with MSNBC’s Chris Matthews on “Hardball.”

"I asked them to put together [for] me a draft, which I'm now literally riding between towns editing, that I want to make clear and submit to the United States Senate pointing out the president has no authority to unilaterally attack Iran.

“And I want to make it clear, I want it on the record … if he does, as chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee and former chair of the Judiciary Committee, I will move to impeach him."

He went on to say: “I think the best deterrent is for the president to know, even at the end of his term, we would move and move to follow through with that so his legacy would be marred for all time if he acted in what was clearly, clearly an impeachable offense.

“In the absence of that, what happens is, and you're going to think I'm joking about this — I'm not. If you're going to impeach George Bush you better impeach Cheney first. Not a joke.”
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« Reply #46 on: March 28, 2011, 09:03:32 PM »

yeah right.  Quadaffi "attacked his people."  Oh so horribly, in attacking hospitals and apartments, killing people!

Please tell me.  Why would a man "arm his people with million guns" and place himself to "rule over them," and then go attack them!  A would-be ruler doesn't start out by killing his people as a way to remain in power...

It doesn't even begin to make sense.

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Where's the funding for all this aggression ultimately coming from?
I’m thinking the real reason Libya gets bombed into submission is this.

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Only 5 nations are without a Rothschilds controlled Central Bank,
> Iran; N. Korea; Sudan; Cuba; and Libya.

It’s a control issue and it fits the pattern of past irrational hostilities.

I believe Iraq and Yugoslavia/Serbia/Kosovo used to be on that list.

World militaries can be rented.
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« Reply #47 on: March 28, 2011, 09:34:30 PM »

"#Obama histrionic tricks are old: teleprompter, arrogance,
breathless hiccups of sincerity and emotion at key points
in sales pitch #Libya"

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« Reply #48 on: March 28, 2011, 09:57:29 PM »

3/28/11 - Sen. Rand Paul Responds to President Obama's Address
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrrV_Txg47Q
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« Reply #49 on: March 28, 2011, 10:08:05 PM »

Anytime someone on tv news has the temerity to go off script and ask about the legality they are shouted down by both party hacks with the continuation of "the other guy did it" so it's okay ethics.
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« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2011, 03:59:16 AM »


  Focusing on Obama, Ok, I get it he sits on the throne therfore he is responsible one.
  Not to be sarcastic, but to make a point. If Obama was to leave office today, who would take the throne. Bidden,  Lil Joey, or would he resist and give the honors to Hillery. Who knows?
  My point, and their getting harder and harder for me to hit on. The elites are clever lil rats, I feel certain they have taken this into consideration.
                             We play by the rules, they don't, thats it.
  Puppets,the elite sociapathic egomaniacs are lined up offering their services to the big dogs, the inner circle, the NWO, the wannabe gods over mankind.
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« Reply #51 on: March 29, 2011, 04:45:49 AM »

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Bidden,  Lil Joey, or would he resist and give the honors to Hillery. Who knows?

Constitutionally speaking, that would be the Speaker of the House after the Vice President.
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« Reply #52 on: March 29, 2011, 07:13:08 AM »

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> Iran; N. Korea; Sudan; Cuba; and Libya.

Wow That Was Fast! Libyan Rebels Have Already Established A New Central Bank Of Libya
http://www.prisonplanet.com/wow-that-was-fast-libyan-rebels-have-already-established-a-new-central-bank-of-libya.html
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The rebels in Libya are in the middle of a life or death civil war and Moammar Gadhafi is still in power and yet somehow the Libyan rebels have had enough time to establish a new Central Bank of Libya and form a new national oil company.  Perhaps when this conflict is over those rebels can become time management consultants.  They sure do get a lot done.  What a skilled bunch of rebels – they can fight a war during the day and draw up a new central bank and a new national oil company at night without any outside help whatsoever.  If only the rest of us were so versatile!  But isn’t forming a central bank something that could be done afterthe civil war is over?  According to Bloomberg, the Transitional National Council has “designated the Central Bank of Benghazi as a monetary authority competent in monetary policies in Libya and the appointment of a governor to the Central Bank of Libya, with a temporary headquarters in Benghazi.”  Apparently someone felt that it was very important to get pesky matters such as control of the banks and control of the money supply out of the way even before a new government is formed.

Of course it is probably safe to assume that the new Central Bank of Libya will be 100% owned and 100% controlled by the newly liberated people of Libya, isn’t it? Most people don’t realize that the previous Central Bank of Libya was 100% state owned. The following is an excerpt from Wikipedia’s article on the former Central Bank of Libya….

The Central Bank of Libya (CBL) is 100% state owned and represents the monetary authority in The Great Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya and enjoys the status of autonomous corporate body. The law establishing the CBL stipulates that the objectives of the central bank shall be to maintain monetary stability in Libya , and to promote the sustained growth of the economy in accordance with the general economic policy of the state.

Since the old Central Bank of Libya was state owned, it was essentially under the control of Moammar Gadhafi. But now that Libya is going to be “free”, the new Central Bank of Libya will be run by Libyans and solely for the benefit of Libyans, right? Of course it is probably safe to assume that will be the case with the new national oil company as well, isn’t it? Over the past couple of years, Moammar Gadhafi had threatened to nationalize the oil industry in Libya and kick western oil companies out of the country, but now that Libya will be “free” the people of Libya will be able to work hand in hand with “big oil” and this will create a better Libya for everyone.

Right?

Of course oil had absolutely nothing to do with why the U.S. “inva—” (scratch that) “initiated a kinetic humanitarian liberty action” in Libya. When Barack Obama looked straight into the camera and told the American people that the war in Libya is in the “strategic interest” of the United States, surely he was not referring to oil. After all, war for oil was a “Bush thing”, right?  The Democrats voted for Obama to end wars like this, right?  Surely no prominent Democrats will publicly support this war in Libya, right? Surely Barack Obama will end the bombing of Libya if the international community begins to object, right?
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« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2011, 08:29:29 AM »



Next up on the Libya show, Dafi gets captured or killed by the rebel force or coalition forces. If captured, show trial ensues followed by either public execution or unfortunate event resulting in his death, real or staged. Rinse and repeat.

All this while scanning Sudan for “atrocities” requiring intervention.
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« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2011, 08:47:26 AM »


Can anyone name just one situation the elites and their front men-bankers don't have their grubby paws in?
  Any and all forms of currency-thats a given, then along comes their supercorps, energy, oil, bigpharma, healthcare-medicines, foods, water resourses, etc etc etc etc..
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« Reply #55 on: March 29, 2011, 08:56:10 AM »

Can anyone name just one situation the elites and their front men-bankers don't have their grubby paws in?
  Any and all forms of currency-thats a given, then along comes their supercorps, energy, oil, bigpharma, healthcare-medicines, foods, water resourses, etc etc etc etc..

They don't yet possess ALL individual hearts and minds.
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« Reply #56 on: March 29, 2011, 10:05:11 AM »

2,200 Marines Go To Libya, ‘What Happened to No Boots on the Ground’?

In all the reporting on the involvement of US Forces in Libya a report by WCTI Channel 12 News in New Bern, North Carolina seems to have gone by almost unnoticed. The News channel reports that 2,200 U.S. Marines have been shipped off the Libya. But doesn’t this deployment clash with Obama’s supposedly steadfast claim that there will be “no boots on the ground” in Libya?

On March 20 WCTI reported that the Marines were shipping out.

About 2,200 Marines from the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit, or 26th MEU will take part. Their mission is to help end the violence directed at the Libyan people.

“In Libya right now they are doing exactly what we need them to do. They are doing what they are told and right now that’s protecting Libyan people against Qadhafi forces,” said Captain Timothy Patrick, a Marine with the 26th MEU.


So, what is it? Are there Marines in Libya or will there be “no boots on the ground”? If there are Marines there, what are they there for?

Just what is Obama’s plan? What is his strategy? Is there one?

One suspects that US ground forces will have to become engaged if anything solid is to happen in NATO’s engagement in Libya. And it seems like Obama is warming us up for that yet.

In a recent interview Obama used some artful spin on our involvement there. He said that the US is being “volunteered to carry out missions” in Libya. Volunteered? By whom?

And we will continue to support the efforts to protect the Libyan people, but we will not be in the lead. That’s what the transition that I discussed has always been designed to do. We have unique capabilities. We came in, up front, fairly readily, fairly substantially, and at considerable risk to our military personnel. And when this transition takes place, it is not going to be our planes that are maintaining the no-fly zone. It is not going to be our ships that are necessarily involved in enforcing the arms embargo. That’s precisely what the other coalition partners are going to do.

And that’s why building this international coalition has been so important because it means that the United States is not bearing all the cost. It means that we have confidence that we are not going in alone, and it is our military that is being volunteered by others to carry out missions that are important not only to us, but are important internationally. And we will accomplish that in a relatively short period of time. (emphasis added)


With the fact that one NATO ally has already pulled its troops from Libya, one has to wonder where this is headed for US forces?

**UPDATED**

Dan Riehl reports that an additional 400 Marines are headed to Libya, too.
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2011/03/400-marines-head-toward-libya.html


http://www.publiusforum.com/2011/03/23/2200-marines-go-to-libya-what-happened-to-no-boots-on-the-ground/
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« Reply #57 on: March 29, 2011, 10:07:33 AM »

400 More Marines Head Toward Libya

If we take Gates at his word, it would appear Marines landing in Libya would come under "contingency planning." They've been deployed to the Keersarge, which would already have the 26th MEU. Amphibious assault? So much for only no flight zones, I guess.

The Pentagon is sending an additional 400 Marines to join the amphibious assault ship Kearsarge near North Africa in response to the unrest in Libya, Pentagon officials said Tuesday.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates ordered the Kearsarge and the amphibious transport dock Ponce to move from the U.S. Central Command region into the Mediterranean Sea to provide the capability for evacuation or humanitarian aid.

“We are obviously looking at a lot of options and contingencies,” Gates said Tuesday at a Pentagon briefing.

U.S. military officials are closely tracking the events in Libya, where armed rebels are clashing with military forces loyal to the Arab nation’s longtime leader Moammar Gadhafi.

Gates downplayed the prospect of military action in Libya, noting that there is no clear support from the United Nations or a consensus among U.S. allies.

The Kearsarge deployed in August with an amphibious readiness group with the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit, but most of those Marines have deployed to Afghanistan. The 400 Marines will be coming from 1st Battalion, 2nd Marines, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

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« Reply #58 on: March 29, 2011, 10:11:42 AM »

alex just mentioned this.  Cheesy
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« Reply #59 on: March 29, 2011, 10:16:14 AM »

Anybody get this one yet?


"Libya bombing an attempt to create 'New World Order'?"

By Aaron Klein
© 2011 WorldNetDaily

Read more: Libya bombing an attempt to create 'New World Order'? http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=280653#ixzz1I0QZM8cS
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« Reply #60 on: March 29, 2011, 10:45:28 AM »

They don't yet possess ALL individual hearts and minds.
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« Reply #61 on: March 29, 2011, 12:00:28 PM »

Marines aren't going to miss their chance at the shores of tripoli.

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« Reply #62 on: March 29, 2011, 01:47:09 PM »

Get those teleprompters ready for the teleprompter 'n 'chief!

We will save Libyan civilians by bombing them with depleted uranium!

Surprise, surprise--NOT!
Uranium bombs in Libya? US, UK 'habit of deploying radioactive arms'
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« Reply #63 on: March 29, 2011, 02:51:52 PM »

Anyone notice or see any article noting that the O actually had the temerity to mention the people who helped rescue the pilots were "grateful" for our help and then of course failed to mention that many were machine gunned and one kid lost his leg?

Im sure the video is still up at CSPAN.

Im sure the omission was accidental.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #64 on: March 29, 2011, 02:58:05 PM »

Libyan villager shot by US troops says he forgives them

Hamid Moussa el-Amruni suffered wounds to his leg and back after being gunned down by a helicopter rescue team outside the rebel-held Libyan city of Benghazi.

But Mr el-Amruni, who was part of a group which gathered around the wrecked US Air Force F-15E in a field, said he welcomed American forces in the country.

‘We didn’t think it was an American plane – we thought it was a Gaddafi plane,’ he said.

‘We started calling out to the pilot but we only speak Arabic. We looked for him and found the parachute.

‘A villager came who spoke English and he called out, “We are here, we are with the rebels” and then the man came out.’

Despite being hit by the shots – allegedly fired to keep villagers at bay during the rescue – he was able to walk by using a broomstick as a crutch.

Five other people, including a young boy who may need his leg amputated, were reportedly also hurt.

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/858852-libyan-villager-shot-by-us-troops-says-he-forgives-them
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« Reply #65 on: March 29, 2011, 11:49:52 PM »

Hamid Moussa el-Amruni suffered wounds to his leg and back after being gunned down by a helicopter rescue team

"GUNNED DOWN BY A HELICOPTER RESCUE TEAM"

Just let that sink in for a minute.

It pretty much explains the entire genocide of millions with this 3rd occupation of foreign lands that will last at least 50 years.

That one phrase demonstrates the primary doctrine of Council on Foreign Relations seditious and treasonous usurpation of US forein policy.
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« Reply #66 on: March 30, 2011, 04:52:28 AM »

"GUNNED DOWN BY A HELICOPTER RESCUE TEAM"

Just let that sink in for a minute.

It pretty much explains the entire genocide of millions with this 3rd occupation of foreign lands that will last at least 50 years.

That one phrase demonstrates the primary doctrine of Council on Foreign Relations seditious and treasonous usurpation of US forein policy.

This is a Kinetic Military Action: it's humanitarian. Get that straight.
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