|
worcesteradam
|
 |
« Reply #80 on: March 21, 2011, 01:08:03 AM » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Outlaws have their uses." - Earl of Newark
|
|
|
|
shipgeek
|
 |
« Reply #81 on: March 21, 2011, 01:11:21 AM » |
|
This war against Lybia driven by the psychopaths trio Sarkoscum, binSoetoro and Cameron is truly disgusting.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
E MARE LIBERTAS
|
|
|
|
chrisfromchi
|
 |
« Reply #82 on: March 21, 2011, 01:31:18 AM » |
|
This war against Lybia driven by the psychopaths trio Sarkoscum, binSoetoro and Cameron is truly disgusting.
oh you are really going to see it when the ones who are defending this now turn. give it a week.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
TahoeBlue
|
 |
« Reply #83 on: March 21, 2011, 10:41:16 AM » |
|
A BRIGHT SPOT: CANADA'S VERENEX STRIKES OIL IN LIBYAhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wikileaks-files/libya-wikileaks/8294933/A-BRIGHT-SPOT-CANADAS-VERENEX-STRIKES-OIL-IN-LIBYA.htmlIf you ever wonder why Canada is participating beside Harper being a US puppet... "...Comment: Verenex's recent discoveries in Libya are a bright spot in an otherwise uncertain firmament for companies in the exploration phase. Slumping oil prices, renewed pressure on international oil companies (IOCs) to contribute to the claims compensation fund and al-Qadhafi's recent call for possible nationalization of the oil industry are causing many companies to debate whether they will be able to ride out this rough patch..." http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/libya-blocks-sale-of-verenex-to-china/article1279121/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS%2FAtom&utm_source=Energy,%20Oil%20and%20Gas%20&utm_content=1279121Libya blocks sale of Verenex to China Toronto— Reuters Published Tuesday, Sep. 08, 2009 China's CNPC International Ltd . has backed away from a deal to purchase Calgary-based Verenex Energy Inc. VNX-T, putting an end to a deal that was worth about half a billion dollars when it was announced early this year. ... unable to get the necessary approval from Libyan authorities for the deal, which would have involved CNPC paying $10 per share to buy all of Verenex and $47-million to Libya's National Oil Corp... The CNPC deal continued in limbo after an Aug. 24 deadline for the deal passed without a decision from Libyan authorities but on Tuesday Verenex announced the Chinese company has withdrawn http://www.tripolipost.com/articledetail.asp?c=2&i=3603LIA to Buy Verenex for $293.7M in Cash Deal 25/09/2009 20:37:00 Canada-based oil producer Verenex Energy Inc. said it has agreed to be sold to the Libyan Investment Authority for about $314.1 million Canadian ($293.7 million) in cash, after a better deal with a Chinese firm fell through. http://www.meed.com/sectors/oil-and-gas/oil-upstream/canadian-court-approves-sale-of-verenex-to-libya/3002854.articleCanadian court approves sale of Verenex to Libya14 December 2009, 18:40 GMT
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Xill
Guest
|
 |
« Reply #84 on: March 21, 2011, 08:52:16 PM » |
|
Well, that makes it clearer. Thanks!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
carlee
Guest
|
 |
« Reply #85 on: March 21, 2011, 08:57:23 PM » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Valerius
|
 |
« Reply #86 on: March 21, 2011, 09:34:56 PM » |
|
Question, would any of the semifinalists of the co-opted parties have done differently?
Not likely.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"No man can put a chain about the ankle of his fellow man without at last finding the other end fastened about his own neck." -Frederick Douglass
|
|
|
|
No2NWO
|
 |
« Reply #87 on: March 22, 2011, 12:12:59 AM » |
|
Drones’ Suicidal Cousins Lead Libya AttackWhen the U.S. military wanted to take out Moammar Gadhafi’s air defense systems, it unleashed a barrage of 122 Tomahawk cruise missiles. But these munitions aren’t like most others in the American arsenal.Smart, maneuverable, able to see its surroundings and shift to new targets in mid-flight, the newest Tomahawks are closer to the unmanned planes flying over Afghanistan than to the weapons they fire. In some ways, the Tomahawk is the drone’s suicidal cousin: a robotic aircraft, packed with explosives, that has no intention of ever coming home. When officers get ready to shoot off a Tomahawk, “they are basically planning a flight for a little airplane,” one Navy official tells Danger Room. “It’s got stubby little wings — but is is an unmanned aerial vehicle.” The next-gen Tomahawks — known as “Block IVs” — start their flights out just like other missiles, launched from ships or subs. But after 12 seconds of flight, things change. The Tomahawk starts to fly horizontally, skimming above the ocean at a height of less than 50 feet to avoid enemy radar. GPS waypoints keep the missile on track, until it makes landfall. Then, a Tercom (Terrain Contour Matching) system kicks in. too. Using a radar altimeter, the Tomahawk Tercom checks its height. Then it matches that altitude against a database of satellite and overhead imagery, to make sure the missile is headed in the right direction and at the right height. Once the Tomahawk’s target is in sight, the missile can dart in for the attack. A Digital Scene-Mapping Area Correlator (“dee-smack” in military jargon) matches a stored picture of the target to the missile’s last sight, to make sure the two match. Or, the missile can wait a while. The Tomahawk’s controller can give it a new route, telling the Tomahawk to circle around in the air, lingering until an enemy pops up its head. Then comes the strike. Full: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/03/drones-suicidal-cousins/Listen: Secret Libya Psyops, Caught by Online SleuthsThe U.S. military has dispatched one of its secret propaganda planes to the skies around Libya. And that “Commando Solo” aircraft is telling Libyan ships to remain in port – or risk NATO retaliation.We know this, not because some Pentagon official said so, but because one Dutch radio geek is monitoring the airwaves for information about Operation Odyssey Dawn — and tweeting the surprisingly-detailed results. On Sunday alone, “Huub” has identified the tail numbers, call signs, and movements of dozens of NATO aircraft: Italian fighter jets, American tankers, British aerial spies, U.S. bombers, and the Commando Solo psyops plane (pictured). “If you attempt to leave port, you will be attacked and destroyed immediately,” the aircraft broadcasted late Sunday night. Full: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/03/secret-libya-psyops/U.S. General: We Won’t Help Libya’s Rebels (Unless We Do)The general in charge of enforcing the no-fly zone over Libya swears that he’s not actively aiding the rebels there. His pilots are just, um, blowing up Moammar Gadhafi’s tanks. Get your razor blade out, because it’s time to slice some answers mighty thin.Gen. Carter Ham, head of U.S. Africa Command, told reporters at the Pentagon that he’s interpreting the United Nations Security Council mandate — ground Libyan aircraft; protect civilians — narrowly. He’s had “no official communication” with the Libyan rebels currently pushing west from Benghazi. “We do not provide close air support for the opposition forces,” he said, even though his planes have attacked pro-Gadhafi loyalists. “We protect civilians… We have no mission to support opposition forces if they should engage in offensive operations.” But even Ham said it’s not always easy to distinguish those missions. Some in the opposition are the civilians that the United Nations resolution authorizing the no-fly zone protects — like those protecting “their homes, their families, their businesses.” Deciding who’s a rebel and who’s a bystander is entirely up to the coalition pilot flying overhead. Full: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/03/u-s-general-we-wont-help-libyas-rebels-unless-we-do/
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Alex for Pres. 2016 Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions.
|
|
|
|
Xill
Guest
|
 |
« Reply #88 on: March 22, 2011, 01:23:24 AM » |
|
This is a siege of Libya and nothing else. It's a warfare technique that has proven it's efficiency when conquering a foreign nation. They did the same with Iraq and Afghanistan. Destroy infrastructure, take control of the propaganda medias, secure resources, then send troops.
It's just hard to believe the stupid public is gullible enough to swallow this media non-sense. Weapon deals, oil deals, it's all in there. Next week they'll tell us a "terrorist group" has taken over a oil refinery and that they must take possession of those for the people's own good...
That is if they don't repeat history, and redo the Bin Laden card trick, blow up something in the occidental world and blame it on a disciple of Gaddafi to send us further down the rabbit hole of NWO apocalyptic warfare. //
Let's just hope for that they do "protect the people of Libya" and that the rest is just a speculative nightmare.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Stan
|
 |
« Reply #89 on: March 22, 2011, 01:56:15 AM » |
|
This war against Lybia driven by the psychopaths trio Sarkoscum, binSoetoro and Cameron is truly disgusting.
Cameron's a public school lad so I'm guessing this is his way of regaining his long lost manhood.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
No2NWO
|
 |
« Reply #90 on: March 22, 2011, 02:37:24 AM » |
|
In Libya, Gaddafi’s forces dig into populated areasOUTSIDE AJDABIYA, Libya — Opposition fighters cheered and flashed victory signs as allied jets streaked across the sky Monday over the strategic city of Ajdabiya, partly controlled by forces loyal to Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi. But as the rebels sped toward Ajdabiya in dozens of vehicles, many mounted with machine guns, Gaddafi’s soldiers attacked. They rained mortar and tank shells that exploded like thunderclaps, spraying thick smoke and debris along the highway. The rebels quickly retreated. Even as allied strikes hammer Gaddafi’s air defenses, his ground forces have dug in within heavily populated urban areas such as Ajdabiya, and on Monday they gained ground in the western city of Misurata. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/in-libya-gaddafis-forces-dig-into-populated-areas/2011/03/22/ABP5S1AB_story.htmlChina calls for immediate cease-fire in LibyaBEIJING -- China has called for an immediate cease-fire in Libya where U.S. and European nations have launched punishing airstrikes Libya to enforce a U.N. no-fly zone. Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/03/22/2127521/china-calls-for-immediate-cease.html#ixzz1HJd2Yl1k
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Alex for Pres. 2016 Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions.
|
|
|
|
Kilika
|
 |
« Reply #91 on: March 22, 2011, 05:02:20 AM » |
|
Drones’ Suicidal Cousins Lead Libya Attack When the U.S. military wanted to take out Moammar Gadhafi’s air defense systems, it unleashed a barrage of 122 Tomahawk cruise missiles. But these munitions aren’t like most others in the American arsenal. Smart, maneuverable, able to see its surroundings and shift to new targets in mid-flight, the newest Tomahawks are closer to the unmanned planes flying over Afghanistan than to the weapons they fire. In some ways, the Tomahawk is the drone’s suicidal cousin: a robotic aircraft, packed with explosives, that has no intention of ever coming home. When officers get ready to shoot off a Tomahawk, “they are basically planning a flight for a little airplane,” one Navy official tells Danger Room. “It’s got stubby little wings — but is is an unmanned aerial vehicle.” The next-gen Tomahawks — known as “Block IVs” — start their flights out just like other missiles, launched from ships or subs. But after 12 seconds of flight, things change. The Tomahawk starts to fly horizontally, skimming above the ocean at a height of less than 50 feet to avoid enemy radar. GPS waypoints keep the missile on track, until it makes landfall. Then, a Tercom (Terrain Contour Matching) system kicks in. too. Using a radar altimeter, the Tomahawk Tercom checks its height. Then it matches that altitude against a database of satellite and overhead imagery, to make sure the missile is headed in the right direction and at the right height. Once the Tomahawk’s target is in sight, the missile can dart in for the attack. A Digital Scene-Mapping Area Correlator (“dee-smack” in military jargon) matches a stored picture of the target to the missile’s last sight, to make sure the two match. Or, the missile can wait a while. The Tomahawk’s controller can give it a new route, telling the Tomahawk to circle around in the air, lingering until an enemy pops up its head. Then comes the strike. Full: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/03/drones-suicidal-cousins/One word: Pentagon
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." 1 Timothy 6:10 (KJB)
|
|
|
|
Georgiacopguy
|
 |
« Reply #92 on: March 22, 2011, 06:11:25 AM » |
|
Faux news is now reporting that an F15E Strike Eagle is down in Libya, both pilots ejected safely. I thought we didn't have any warplanes invested in this illegal invasion of Libya? I thought our biggest investment was just gonna be Tomahawks.
Ann Coulter also just said that ultimately, we will bear the cost of this, especially the manpower infusion. So they are telegraphing they will be putting boots on the ground there. She said this in the context that the administration is not being clear on what our 'mission' is there. So now we are out what, 122 tomahawks, at a million a pop, an 80 million dollar jet fighter...somebody run Maobama a tab, this is gonna be an expensive 'police action'.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
The resistance starts here. Unfortunately, the entire thing is moving beyond the intellectual infowar. I vow I will not make an overt rush at violent authority, until authority makes it's violent rush at me and you. I will not falter, I will not die in this course. For that is how they win.
|
|
|
|
bigron
|
 |
« Reply #93 on: March 22, 2011, 06:19:17 AM » |
|
Hypocrisy Rules the Day…and the World Apparentlyby Ghada ChehadeMarch 21 2011 http://uruknet.com/?p=m76057&hd=&size=1&l=eIf you are feeling a sense of eerie déjà vu watching the U.S’ (and its "allies"’) bombing of Libya, you are probably not alone. We have been here before: watching a hypocritical U.S (possibly the most brutal and murderous regime in history) bomb another murderous regime (that the U.S, U.K and Canada etc. of course very recently supported and helped to keep in power) under the false claim of helping "the people." This is the new mode of Empire; humanitarian imperialism masquerading as "humanitarian intervention." One look at the facts demonstrates the brazen hypocrisy of this latest "humanitarian mission." So here are some points to ponder: -Gaddafi is a murderous tyrant, with a track record of brutally crushing uprisings;
-The U.S has supported Gaddafi since at least the 2003 invasion of Iraq
-Gaddafi became a converted U.S stooge around the time of Saddam Hussein’s imminent demise.
-Libya is an important supply of oil for Europe and the West, thus oil is a primary motive;
-The U.S and its allies do not care one bit about the Libyan people (or any people of that region) and are not there to help them;
-The U.S remains silent and indirectly supports/funds the massacre of unarmed protestors in Bahrain by troops from Saudi Arabia;
-Saudi Arabia is one of the U.S’ biggest allies though it arguably operates under the most fundamentalist and oppressive interpretation of Islam—so much for the U.S’ war against "Islamic fundamentalism." It appears you are only an Islamic fundamentalist, terrorist or brutal dictator if you do not willingly hand over control of your oil/resources to the U.S. and/or its allies. Where was the U.S condemnation of a state attack on an unarmed concentrated civilian population, when the occupying Israeli State mercilessly attacked and bombarded the civilian population of Gaza with everything in their arsenal in 2008? This included internationally banned weapons such as white phosphorous and cluster bombs, in addition to depleted uranium—i.e waste from power plants; ironically and hypocritically, the release of which the world is currently fretting over in Japan. And let us not forget the over one million dead in Iraq from America’s ongoing "humanitarian intervention" there, and the fact that more radioactive material has been dumped on the people of Iraq from the use of D.U weapons than could ever be released from the six crippled reactors in Fukushima. The hypocrisy is not the U.S’ alone. Russia recently condemned the bombing of Libya and called for its cessation; as did China. But don’t Russia and China have veto power in the U.N? If they are so concerned with the bombing of Libya, why did they allow it in the fist place? MORE http://uruknet.com/?p=m76057&hd=&size=1&l=e
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
larsonstdoc
|
 |
« Reply #94 on: March 22, 2011, 07:10:51 AM » |
|
http://tarpley.net/ Webster Tarpley was on AJ yesterday (3-21-2011). This below is the headline from Tarpley's website. Qaddafi resistance leads Obama to shift from color revolution charade to NATO aggression in Libya to save CIA rebel militia; UN Charter a dead letter; Command and control chaos as Italy rejects French-British command, Arab puppets reject NATO command; Craven Obama seeks low profile; Goal for Libya is tribal/warlord breakup on model of Sudan, Yemen, Serbia; Egypt protesters turn against imperialists; Putin likens war to “medieval crusade”
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
larsonstdoc
|
 |
« Reply #95 on: March 22, 2011, 07:16:07 AM » |
|
Faux news is now reporting that an F15E Strike Eagle is down in Libya, both pilots ejected safely. I thought we didn't have any warplanes invested in this illegal invasion of Libya? I thought our biggest investment was just gonna be Tomahawks.
Ann Coulter also just said that ultimately, we will bear the cost of this, especially the manpower infusion. So they are telegraphing they will be putting boots on the ground there. She said this in the context that the administration is not being clear on what our 'mission' is there. So now we are out what, 122 tomahawks, at a million a pop, an 80 million dollar jet fighter...somebody run Maobama a tab, this is gonna be an expensive 'police action'.
No problem about the money--they've got all the fiat money in the world to fund this from the Federal Reserve. What sucks is the boots on the ground. The Libyans are tenacious fighters. I bet the Pentagon is working hard on new commercials to get our young men into the military. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704355304576214781523651722.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Dig
|
 |
« Reply #96 on: March 22, 2011, 07:42:42 AM » |
|
Faux news is now reporting that an F15E Strike Eagle is down in Libya, both pilots ejected safely. I thought we didn't have any warplanes invested in this illegal invasion of Libya? I thought our biggest investment was just gonna be Tomahawks.
Ann Coulter also just said that ultimately, we will bear the cost of this, especially the manpower infusion. So they are telegraphing they will be putting boots on the ground there. She said this in the context that the administration is not being clear on what our 'mission' is there. So now we are out what, 122 tomahawks, at a million a pop, an 80 million dollar jet fighter...somebody run Maobama a tab, this is gonna be an expensive 'police action'.
but france, canada, and the US are broke. so broke that they are cutting salaries of teachers, police, firefighters, and others. if only there was an international banking house who could fund this act of genocide who have offices all over and who has made money and became more powerful off of the recession we are in. i wonder if there is any such banking group available to assist us in our time of need. of course they would be justified in charging us a high rate of interest and using all biometric information on our 300+ million citizens (including DNA data) as collateral for this operation. if only there were such an institution available.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately
|
|
|
|
Dig
|
 |
« Reply #97 on: March 22, 2011, 07:55:05 AM » |
|
But don’t Russia and China have veto power in the U.N? If they are so concerned with the bombing of Libya, why did they allow it in the fist place?
Do you think that Russia has a dog in the NWO race? Moscow 2009:
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately
|
|
|
|
larsonstdoc
|
 |
« Reply #98 on: March 22, 2011, 08:08:07 AM » |
|
http://tarpley.net/2011/03/15/behind-the-2011-orgy-of-destabilizations/#more-2217FROM TARPLEY'S ARTICLE--The Russian and Chinese CardsChina CardAnother group of countries has been seeking to use China as a counterweight to US domination. As noted, one of the central principles of US policy in all of Africa is to sabotage and disrupt Chinese commercial and development cooperation, and this policy of kicking the Chinese out to prevent them from obtaining needed oil and strategic minerals extends to North Africa and the Middle East as well. Pakistan, more and more antagonized by the Obama policy of exporting the Afghan civil war into Islamabad’s hinterlands, has been steadily gravitating towards China, including as the obvious response to the US-India nuclear cooperation deal which gives New Delhi privileged status with the Americans.7 Pakistan, by contrast, gets bombings by Predator drones designed to goad the Pushtuns and also the Baluchis into a rebellion against the Punjabis and Sinds, who are viewed as responsible for the unbearable US presence. Pakistan has declared 2011 the a year of friendship with China, and the two countries are building the JF-17 fighter aircraft, among many other joint projects.8 The Pakistan energy corridor is China’s best bet for getting a secure oil supply overland from Iran by the most direct route. Ray Davis, the CIA operative originally billed as a US diplomat, whose real affiliation the Obama regime tried and failed to censor in the US media, is widely accused by the Pakistani media of being a terrorist controller directing the activities or “Taliban” units against the central government, and even of complicity in a plot to deliver to these terrorists nuclear materials suitable for the construction of a radiological dirty bomb. The detonation of such a dirty bomb would allow the US to argue that the Pakistani nuclear forces are not secure, and need to be seized by the US. A shooting war between the US and Pakistan could now be very close, but as long as Pakistan has nuclear weapons, they are able to exercise nuclear deterrence against US aggression. Libya under Qaddafi had an estimated 35,000 Chinese personnel in-country and working on various oil and other development projects. These workers have now been hastily removed with the help of Greek ships, and the Chinese projects have been shut down. Afghanistan under President Karzai intensified its overtures to China in March of last year when President Karzai visited Beijing for the fourth time to sign a number of important technical training and economic development deals, including some triangular China-Pakistan-Afghanistan efforts. A Chinese company paid $3 billion to develop one of the world’s largest untapped copper mines at Aynak, and is also the leading candidate to mine the iron deposits at Hajigak. The post-industrial US is not a contender. Washington was so alarmed over Karzai’s trip to Beijing that Obama made an unannounced lightning visit to Karzai right after he returned to warn him not to go too far off the US imperialist reservation. Afghanistan’s striving for self-assertion comes despite an ongoing war and NATO occupation. On March 12, 2011, Karzai formally demanded that the US and NATO get out of his country; his life is now in grave danger. Russia CardSaudi Arabia’s Prince Bandar bin Sultan, then head of the National Security Council, made numerous trips to meet Vladimir Putin of Russia, including in August 2007, July 2008, and September 2008, plus Putin’s trip to Riyad in February 2007, the first by a top Russian leader. A wide range of economic, political, and military cooperation was reportedly discussed during these meetings, although not made public. In early August 2009 it was reported by PressTV of Iran that Bandar had attempted a coup d’etat by attempting to take control of the process of succession in the Saudi royal family.9 Bandar was then reported to have been jailed or placed under house arrest, and he has not been seen in public since, although his role as head of the National Security Council was confirmed for four years in September 2009. Bandar was watergated in public by the CIA and its minions for his alleged role in the al-Yamamah/BAE Systems arms deal scandal, but the real issue was reported to be a strategic rapprochement between Riyadh and Moscow for the purpose of diminishing US control over Saudi Arabia and heading off a threatened color revolution stoked by the CIA, while getting Russia to minimize further arms sales to Iran. Any attempt by Saudi Arabia to balance between Washington and Moscow would be enough to make the CIA go berserk, and some of the immediate impulse for the current putsch wave in the Arab world must be sought in these Saudi impulses for greater independence and self-preservation. Libya, during Putin’s April 2008 visit, signed a deal with Russian Railways to build a 554 km rail line between Benghazi and Sirta worth more than 2 billion euros. Italy under Prime Minister Berlusconi has been attacked by the CIA in a recent Wikileaks document dump as the Western European country with the closest relations with the Russian Federation and with Prime Minister Putin personally. One concrete manifestation of this close relation with Moscow is the Southstream gas pipeline, which also involves cooperation with Turkey. Southstream will permit Russia to export natural gas towards the Mediterranean region without the need to traverse the rabidly anti-Russian Eastern European NATO states, who have deplorable track record of sabotaging gas deliveries in the course of their endless quarrels with Moscow. The Italian-Russian relationship has also given the Italian state oil company ENI and its subsidiaries a role in the construction of the Nord Stream Baltic gas pipeline between Russia and Germany; these pipeline deals have added several percentage points to the Italian GDP and to some extent cushioned the country against the current world economic depression. The destabilization of Italy for the purpose of ousting Berlusconi is being conducted through a group of runaway state prosecutors in Milan, among them the vindictive Ilda Bocassini, a relic of the defunct Lotta Continua, a Maoist-anarchist organization of the 1970s. Unable to oust Berlusconi through elections or votes of no confidence, the backers of these prosecutors have launched some three dozen prosecutions against him over recent decades, including by tapping his phone — despite the fact that he has been the duly elected prime minister of the country and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces. Italy has been extremely skeptical about armed intervention against Libya in recent weeks, partly because it is the country with the most to lose if Libya is destroyed. The motivations of the Berlusconi government in these policies are not so different from the ones that were expressed by Enrico Mattei in the 1950s and by Aldo Moro in the 1970s. It is certain that an Italian government dominated by the post-communists and their neoliberal allies would subordinate Italy to the International Monetary Fund and NATO far more than is the case under Berlusconi and Tremonti. Italian leftists must therefore face the fact that they have been thoroughly duped by the same US-backed destabilization operations which are operative elsewhere in the Mediterranean region. Germany has also defied the United States and played the Russian card through its decisive role in the building of the Nord Stream gas pipeline, the longest underwater pipeline in the world, which is scheduled to begin deliveries in late 2011. Once Nord Stream comes on line, It will no longer be possible for the demagogic anti-Russian politicians of Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Ukraine to manufacture gas delivery crises in Western Europe at will, simply by cutting off gas transit and blaming it on the Russians. This is clearly an important step towards economic rationality and European-Russian cooperation. Behind the scenes, the tradition of German industrial banking seen in von Siemens, Ponto, Herrhausen, and Rohwedder is still alive, and much feared by London and New York. Afghanistan’s President Karzai has also been playing the Russian card, most notably in his first official visit to Moscow in January 2011, just as the CIA putsch wave was getting under way. Karzai was interested in Russian helicopters, Russian training for his armed forces, and large-scale energy deals.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Dig
|
 |
« Reply #99 on: March 22, 2011, 08:14:22 AM » |
|
What if the Stxnet/HAARP/nuke False Flag was a warning shot to Rissua/China: "back off upcomming UN vote" The timing was impecable.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately
|
|
|
|
larsonstdoc
|
 |
« Reply #100 on: March 22, 2011, 08:16:08 AM » |
|
What if the Stxnet/HAARP/nuke False Flag was a warning shot to Rissua/China: "back off upcomming UN vote"
The timing was impecable.
Interesting observation.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
agentbluescreen
|
 |
« Reply #102 on: March 22, 2011, 08:38:00 AM » |
|
Faux news is now reporting that an F15E Strike Eagle is down in Libya, both pilots ejected safely. I thought we didn't have any warplanes invested in this illegal invasion of Libya? I thought our biggest investment was just gonna be Tomahawks.
Too bad the killers survived, hopefully they will be "justly" tried by Libyan military tribunals as "unlawful combatants" and held in prison for life.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
agentbluescreen
|
 |
« Reply #103 on: March 22, 2011, 08:49:31 AM » |
|
LOL 50% support this? What a HUGE LIE! NOBODY HAS Tweeted their Likudnik ZioNAZI AL CIAduh propaganda, too bad you cannot vote or mail in to condemn their total lies. Best thing to do is just watch up to the Likudnik-liar McCain part, and then close it. The first video showed a bit of truth - nobody in Libya is buying this. This blatant criminal war crime is the greatest threat yet to US security that the Likudnik Mafia have ever devised. Thankfully most Arabs know that we too are criminally under Rothschild-Corporate fascist occupation here too.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
No2NWO
|
 |
« Reply #104 on: March 22, 2011, 10:06:19 AM » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Alex for Pres. 2016 Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions.
|
|
|
|
HAZMAT
|
 |
« Reply #105 on: March 22, 2011, 10:10:56 AM » |
|
Fox news told this story as a crash landing! haha, lets just call it what it is, a f****n crash.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
TahoeBlue
|
 |
« Reply #106 on: March 22, 2011, 10:51:25 AM » |
|
Well, that makes it clearer. Thanks! Yes and the sov. wealth fund of "Libya's National Oil Corp" IS Gaddafi and he has been converting those oil dollars into gold... and he has been keeping it IN COUNTRY , in Libya. So they have to bomb him to get the gold ... http://www.smh.com.au/world/gaddafi-sitting-on-143-tonnes-of-gold-in-libya-report-20110322-1c4cj.htmlGaddafi sitting on 143 tonnes of gold in Libya: report ... Libyan leader Muammer Gaddafi is reportedly sitting on a 143.8-tonne $6.4-billion pot of gold - enough to pay mercenaries to fight for him for years. The gold bullion - held by the Libyan central bank and controlled by Colonel Gaddafi - is among the 25 largest reserves in the world, the Financial Times reported, citing the International Monetary Fund.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
larsonstdoc
|
 |
« Reply #107 on: March 22, 2011, 10:56:37 AM » |
|
Fox news told this story as a crash landing! haha, lets just call it what it is, a f****n crash.
Yes, FAUX NEWS.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
TahoeBlue
|
 |
« Reply #108 on: March 22, 2011, 11:47:19 AM » |
|
Do we know how much of the bombing on Libya was DU?http://www.activistpost.com/2011/03/japans-nuclear-crisis-debacle-and.html.... Depopulation AgendaThis prolonged nuclear crisis at Fukushima may be tied to the depopulation agenda laid-out in Ecoscience, co-authored by Obama’s top science and technology advisor, John P. Holdren, in which he advocated the formation of a “planetary regime” that would use a “global police force” to enforce totalitarian measures of population control, including forced abortions, mass sterilization programs conducted via the food and water supply, as well as mandatory bodily implants that would prevent couples from having children
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
No2NWO
|
 |
« Reply #109 on: March 22, 2011, 04:56:19 PM » |
|
Libya: Six injured as US team botches rescue of downed airmenLibyans said US helicopter came in with guns firing, creating panic and wounding onlookers after F-15E Strike Eagle crashUS forces sent into Libya to rescue two downed American airmen botched the mission by shooting and wounding friendly villagers who had come to help, witnesses have said. Libyans who went to investigate the US warplane's crash site said that a US helicopter had come in with guns firing, creating panic and wounding onlookers, some of whom had to be taken to hospital; one 20-year-old man is expected to have his leg amputated. The villagers said they had been searching for the plane's missing airmen to welcome them and help them. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/22/libya-downed-airmen-rescueSmooooooooth...
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Alex for Pres. 2016 Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions.
|
|
|
BaronJ
Member
Offline
Posts: 2
|
 |
« Reply #110 on: March 22, 2011, 08:39:15 PM » |
|
English Translation of Gaddafis Last Speech in front of his supporters, Directly adressing the Globalists: "Protests everywhere are against you! In Asia, Africa, America, Europe, the people are against them! The people of their Nations are against them! Oh People, Those who are against you, are a small group of fascists, sickened, they will fall, their nations will overthrow them! We will succeed in this historical battle, we will not give up, we will not fear their Firecrackers, we despise their missiles, they are firecrackers, those missiles are fireckrackers, the Libyans are laughing, the libyans disdain, We will defeat them! With any method! May it be on the short term, we will defeat them, may it be on the long term we will defeat them! We are ready for the Battle, long or short! The strongest air defence are the people, the defence is in the people! Protests in every place on the planet earth support the Libyan people against this non justified oppression, this oppression that is agains the UN charters. This dark, abominable oppression coming from a handful of Fascists, whom history will put in her thrash. Oh great Nation of Libya, you are living now glorious times, this is the glory, those is the glorious times we are living in now. All nations are with us! We are leading the worldwide Revolution against Imperialism, against Oppression. And I am saying to you, I don't fear Storms crossing the Lands, nor Planes bringing destruction, I am Resisting, my Home is here, in my Tent and in the Fields, I am the friend of true Justice, and the builder of (inaudible), I, I am Here, I am Here, I am Here! " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsBfAlaUQvI
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
worcesteradam
|
 |
« Reply #111 on: March 23, 2011, 02:54:37 AM » |
|
Libya: Six injured as US team botches rescue of downed airmenLibyans said US helicopter came in with guns firing, creating panic and wounding onlookers after F-15E Strike Eagle crashUS forces sent into Libya to rescue two downed American airmen botched the mission by shooting and wounding friendly villagers who had come to help, witnesses have said. Libyans who went to investigate the US warplane's crash site said that a US helicopter had come in with guns firing, creating panic and wounding onlookers, some of whom had to be taken to hospital; one 20-year-old man is expected to have his leg amputated. The villagers said they had been searching for the plane's missing airmen to welcome them and help them. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/22/libya-downed-airmen-rescueSmooooooooth... unbridled psychopaths
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Outlaws have their uses." - Earl of Newark
|
|
|
|
feeditup
|
 |
« Reply #112 on: March 23, 2011, 03:56:00 AM » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Facebook is the Barn of the sheep, time to break in, Tare some f**king wool up
|
|
|
|
Seroquel XR
|
 |
« Reply #113 on: March 23, 2011, 04:02:20 AM » |
|
China calls for immediate cease-fire in LibyaBEIJING – China called Tuesday for an immediate cease-fire in Libya where the U.S. and European nations have launched punishing airstrikes to enforce a U.N. no-fly zone. India, too, expressed concern over the campaign, repeating a mantra of both Asian giants that the violence in the North African country was an internal affair. All parties must "immediately cease fire and resolve issues through peaceful means," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu said at a regularly scheduled news conference, citing unconfirmed reports that the airstrikes had caused civilian deaths. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/22/china-calls-immediate-cease-libya/
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
cardio
|
 |
« Reply #114 on: March 23, 2011, 04:29:24 AM » |
|
I guess i should rephrase my original question. They have a reason for everything they do, so why did they name the "operation (read war mongering) as "Odyssey Dawn." It must be code for something exactly...I mean, do they see this whole thing as the Dawn of something major?
ODDESY DAWN
I just noticed that sounded like Kubriks "Space Oddesy" which is kind of a NWO spirtual blueprint. New World Religion. Dawning of a New Age - "Dawning of The Age of Aquarius - Worship of the Stars / Heavens (The attacked on the 1st day of Spring / were ordered by New World Orderists to attack on the "Ides of March" and attacked during a SUPERMOON.
Dawn - "The Dawn of Man (from 2001: A space Oddesy) and "Dawning of the Age of Aquarius"
Attacking another Muslim Country (They call old world Relgion) to bring in the NEW (worship of stars, creation) DAWNing of (Age of Aquarius) Aquarius = Water Carrier constellation / The want to be the Water Carriers.
NWO Order plans to be the WATER CARRIERS / UN total control of M.E. and North Africas Water / Water Taxes and Slavery of the "Old World" "3rd Word" through water / Qaddafi just finishing $20 Billion - 26 year water self-reliance plan!!!!!!!!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
agentbluescreen
|
 |
« Reply #115 on: March 23, 2011, 04:54:39 AM » |
|
What a colossal screwup - LOL This is going to go down as the biggest foolish, most imbecilic and patently ridiculous farce in history.
Is this Obama bin Soetoro insane?
This is the worst precedent in history. Israel and Red China have hundreds of much much worse MAJOR UN Security Council beefs against them, the "Arab" League is just a coffee-klatch of noble-criminal Tory-British warlord-dictators.
As Webster points out the terrorists of Tobruk are now in Radical-Wahabbist heaven LOL
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
worcesteradam
|
 |
« Reply #116 on: March 23, 2011, 05:02:06 AM » |
|
'Libya war could last 30 years': Armed forces minister's extraordinary admission By TIM SHIPMAN Pro-war MPs out of step with public mood Ministers admitted yesterday that they have no idea how long the military operation against Colonel Gaddafi could take. Asked for an estimate, Armed Forces Minister Nick Harvey said: 'How long is a piece of string? We don't know how long this is going to go on. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1369019/Libya-war-30-years-Ministers-extraordinary-admission.html
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Outlaws have their uses." - Earl of Newark
|
|
|
|
agentbluescreen
|
 |
« Reply #117 on: March 23, 2011, 05:10:50 AM » |
|
I guess i should rephrase my original question. They have a reason for everything they do, so why did they name the "operation (read war mongering) as "Odyssey Dawn." It must be code for something exactly...I mean, do they see this whole thing as the Dawn of something major?
Obama bin Soetoro "lays an egg" ROTFLMAO (someone must have perceived that this one was "glowing", too) End the Pentagon Mafia now -no wars, anywhere, ever again!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
shipgeek
|
 |
« Reply #118 on: March 23, 2011, 05:21:52 AM » |
|
The US don't even know who the Libyan rebels are. Frigging un-believable!!! Who are the Libyan rebels? U.S. tries to figure outWhen a U.S. Air Force pilot ejected from his crashing F-15 Eagle fighter jet and landed in rebel-held eastern Libya overnight Tuesday, he soon found that he was in friendly hands. "He was a very nice guy," Libyan businessman Ibrahim Ismail told Newsweek of the initially quite anxious American pilot. "He came to free the Libyan people." Rebel officials dispatched a doctor to attend to the pilot and presented him with a bouquet of flowers, according to Newsweek. But the U.S. government, now engaged in a fourth day of air strikes against Libyan regime military targets, does not know very much about the rebels who now see it as a friendly ally in their fight to overthrow Muammar Gadhafi. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton held a 45-minute, closed-door meeting with Mahmoud Jibril, a leader of the newly formed Libyan opposition Interim National Council in a luxury Paris hotel earlier this month. But in a clear signal of America's wariness about all the unknowns, Clinton gave no public statement after their meeting and did not appear in photographs with the rebel leader. (By contrast, a week earlier French President Nicholas Sarkozy bestowed formal diplomatic recognition on the Council and was photographed shaking hands with its emissaries Jibril and Ali Essawi on the steps of the Elysee Palace.) Middle East policy watchers note a glaring disconnect between the buoyant expectations of some rebel supporters that the international military coalition will provide direct air support for their armed struggle, and the insistence of U.S. military commanders that their mandate allows for no such thing. The coalition mission doesn't include protecting forces engaged in combat against Libyan leader Muammar Gadhafi's forces, Gen. Carter Ham, the commander of U.S. Africa Command, told reporters Monday. His mission, Ham said, is narrowly confined to preventing Gadhafi forces from attacking civilians, getting Gadhafi's forces to pull back from rebel-held towns, and allowing civilians humanitarian access to food, water, and electricity/gas supplies, Ham said. So who are the Libyan rebels with whom we now seem (for better or for worse) to be joined with in a shared fight against Gadhafi? One view has it that the Libyan rebels are basically peaceful protesters who found their demonstrations against Gadhafi met with bullets and had no choice but to resort to violence. "The protesters are nice, sincere people who want a better future for Libya," Human Rights Watch Emergencies Director Peter Bouckaert told South Africa's Business Day. "But their strength is also their weakness: they aren't hardened fighters, so no one knows what the end game will be." "This is not really a civil war between two equal powers--it started as a peaceful protest movement and was met with bullets," Bouckaert continued. "Now you have a situation where you have a professional and heavily equipped army fighting a disorganized and inexperienced bunch of rebels who stand little chance against them." Still, the rebels are largely unknown to the American government, despite initial tentative meetings such as Clinton's and some meetings held by U.S. Ambassador to Libya Gene Cretz with opposition representatives. (Cretz is now working out of the State Department, as the United States has withdrawn its diplomatic presence.) Last week, President Barack Obama appointed an American diplomat, Chris Stevens, to be the U.S. liaison to the Libyan opposition. "We don't have the comfort level with the rebels," said the National Security Network's Joel Rubin, a former State Department official. "We certainly know some things about them, had meetings. It's not as if there's complete blindness. But I don't think at this stage the comfort level is there for that kind of close coordination." But the Libyan rebels seem to have found western consultants who have offered advice on reassuring buzzwords the West would like to hear. On Tuesday, the Interim National Council issued just such a soothing statement from their rebel stronghold of Benghazi. "The Interim National Council is committed to the ultimate goal of the revolution which is to build a democratic civil state, based on the rule of law, respect for human rights including ... equal rights and duties for all citizens, ... equality between men and women, " the Council said in their statement. The Council also "reaffirms that Libya's foreign policy will be based on mutual respect and ... respect [for] international law and international humanitarian law," the group said. http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theenvoy/20110322/ts_yblog_theenvoy/who-are-the-libyan-rebels-u-s-tries-to-figure-out  Damn psychopaths Sarkoscum, Barack bin Soetoro, David Cameron and all the others who have joined into this war.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
E MARE LIBERTAS
|
|
|
|
larsonstdoc
|
 |
« Reply #119 on: March 23, 2011, 05:51:09 AM » |
|
The US don't even know who the Libyan rebels are. Frigging un-believable!!! Who are the Libyan rebels? U.S. tries to figure outWhen a U.S. Air Force pilot ejected from his crashing F-15 Eagle fighter jet and landed in rebel-held eastern Libya overnight Tuesday, he soon found that he was in friendly hands. "He was a very nice guy," Libyan businessman Ibrahim Ismail told Newsweek of the initially quite anxious American pilot. "He came to free the Libyan people." Rebel officials dispatched a doctor to attend to the pilot and presented him with a bouquet of flowers, according to Newsweek. But the U.S. government, now engaged in a fourth day of air strikes against Libyan regime military targets, does not know very much about the rebels who now see it as a friendly ally in their fight to overthrow Muammar Gadhafi. http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theenvoy/20110322/ts_yblog_theenvoy/who-are-the-libyan-rebels-u-s-tries-to-figure-out  Damn psychopaths Sarkoscum, Barack bin Soetoro, David Cameron and all the others who have joined into this war. THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHO THEY ARE. This is a disinfo to the max!!!
From Tarpley http://tarpley.net/From no-fly zone to regime changeThe alleged purpose of the bombing was to establish a no-fly zone and to protect a force of CIA-sponsored Libyan rebels composed of the Moslem Brotherhood, elements of the Libyan government and army subverted by the CIA (including such sinister figures as former Justice Minister Mustafa Abdel-Jalil and former Interior Minister Fattah Younis), and monarchist Senussi tribesmen holding the cities of Benghazi and Tobruk. But twin Friday ultimatums by President Obama and British premier Cameron, plus a speech by Harper, made clear that the goal was the ouster of Colonel Muammar Qaddafi and regime change in the North African oil-producing nation, whose proven reserves of crude are the largest on that continent. Prospects for military success are uncertain, despite the apparent NATO preponderance. No clear military objective has been articulated, and disagreements about the scope of the war are likely. If Qaddafi’s tanks and infantry are engaged in house to house battles with the rebels in cities like Bengazi and Tobruk, it will be hard for NATO to bring its air superiority to bear without massacring large numbers of civilians.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|