U.S. in full spectrum War with Libya, Pentagon plans to exterminate civilians

[wvoutlaw2002]

Bosnia/Serbia all over again. And once the dust settles, a Rethuglican will become the next president and then they'll stage yet another attack on American soil and claim "Islamofascists did it in retaliation for what happend in Libya".

[Dig]

Henry Kissinger:

'How Do We Define Success in Libya?'

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/03/18/kissinger_how_do_we_define_success_in_libya.html

Former secretary of state on conflict in African nation, U.S. military intervention Channel: FOX News

Video Length: 331s

Date Found: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:45:35 -0400

[donnay]

For the record, 99.997 percent of the US population had NOTHING to do with this decision. Media portrayal that somehow WE have a stake in this isn’t going to work as more Americans discover poverty. Wal-Mart can keep their plastic Chinese-made flags this year.

Absolutely!!  

"Someone has stolen my country and I want her back!!"  ~Garrett Lear

[Monkeypox]

Is it correct that the military will often attack on a FULL MOON? I'm sure I have read that somewhere in history.

I don't think that's as important now as it once was, since we have advanced night vision technology that turns night into day.  In fact, I believe that the US military prefers to fight in the dark now, because it gives them such an advantage.

[Georgiacopguy]

I guess i should rephrase my original question. They have a reason for everything they do, so why did they name the "operation (read war mongering) as "Odyssey Dawn." It must be code for something exactly...I mean, do they see this whole thing as the Dawn of something major?

[chrisfromchi]

I guess i should rephrase my original question. They have a reason for everything they do, so why did they name the "operation (read war mongering) as "Odyssey Dawn." It must be code for something exactly...I mean, do they see this whole thing as the Dawn of something major?

Odyssey
-a long wandering and eventful journey

[Georgiacopguy]

Odyssey
-a long wandering and eventful journey

Well that much is obvious. I was just curious if there were NWO documents which might make better sense out of the code name.

[jofortruth]

Iraq War & Neocon 'Idea Testing' - Part 1 of 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USD5j-1TbJw&feature=channel_video_title

Neocon, Michael Ledeen (look at the evil grin on his face) tells us which countries are in the crosshairs in this video. Libya was one, as was Iraq. 

It's indeed an Odyssey Dawn. An Odyssey throughout the last few countries the NWO wants to take down, and the Dawn of their NWO. Makes sense to me!

[jofortruth]

Bush declares war COALITION FORCES - March 19, 2003
http://articles.cnn.com/2003-03-19/us/sprj.irq.int.bush.transcript_1_coalition-forces-equipment-in-civilian-areas-iraqi-troops-and-equipment?_s=PM:US

It’s exactly 8 years to the day since Bush started bombing Iraq! If you voted for change, this is the change you voted for. (A comment under the story)

[Dig]

Twitter Revolution actually equates to a softening up of the infrastructure before a wholesale genocide ensues.

The New Face of Regime Change: "Twitter Genocide"

[Valerius]

Can anybody remember a time in America when there were three undeclared wars simulatenously? I can't.

[Dig]

Can anybody remember a time in America when there were three undeclared wars simulatenously? I can't.

Vietnam

Cambodia

Laos

[Kiolm]

I can't even remember them all. Did we declare war on N. Korea?

Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Panama, Now Libya.

What'd I forget?

[Dig]

I can't even remember them all. Did we declare war on N. Korea?

Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Panama, Now Libya.

What'd I forget?

don't forget the RAND CORPORTATION "Smart Mobs" which are called "Soft War Strategies" in Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen (also drones), Algeria, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia. Then we got the decapitation of Poland for Goldman Sachs along with Ukraine, Georgia, Kazakstan, and other former USSR territories which we are occupying, continued provocations to North Korea, major operations in Mexico, Columbia, Panama due to the fake war on drugs, and the biggest war of all...the Revolution in Military Affairs which is declaring war on "old non-network centric US citizens".

[One Revelator]

I guess i should rephrase my original question. They have a reason for everything they do, so why did they name the "operation (read war mongering) as "Odyssey Dawn." It must be code for something exactly...I mean, do they see this whole thing as the Dawn of something major?

This may be of interest to you. Comprehensive history at the link.

Guidelines for Naming Operations
The Productive Effort incident demonstrates that the military still has some learning to do about the art of naming operations. Rules for helping staff officers through the process would be of little value because nicknaming is an art rather than a science. Yet four general suggestions emerge from the last 45 years of nicknaming operations: make it meaningful, target the key audiences, be wary of fashions, and make it memorable. These suggestions and the prudent guidelines already published in DOD Regulation 5200.1-R may prevent another "(non)Productive Effort."

<snip>

To avoid these failings, start by identifying unique attributes of the operation. Try to capture those characteristics in specific terms with a metaphor or with words that evoke an image. Try to keep each word to two syllables or less. Sea Angel, the name that replaced Productive Effort, has all the traits of a memorable name: it is unique and specific; it evokes a clear image in more than one culture; and it has only three syllables. Desert Shield and Desert Storm share those traits. It is no accident that the latter name is so frequently substituted for the name Gulf War. People remember it.
Applying the four guidelines will result in an effectively nicknamed operation, an outcome that can help win the war of images. In that war, the operation name is the first--and quite possibly the decisive--bullet to be fired. Mold and aim it with care.

The Art of Naming Operations
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1995/sieminsk.htm

[Dig]

Public Enemy Lyric regarding Minister Farrakhan: "Don't tell me that you understand, until you hear the man"
Now I am always skeptical of the minister due to the Nation of Islam being a globalist controlled organization and him seemingly to be mind controlled by some obsessive numerology fascination. But...the minister hits it out of the park with this one:

"Who The Hell Do You Think You Are?"
Farrakhan Blasts Obama For Calling For Qaddafi to Step Down (Video)
Farrakhan goes on a rant on Chicago radio about Obama calling for Qaddafi to step down, this is from yesterday
http://www.hapblog.com/2011/03/who-hell-do-you-think-your-are.html
Louis Farrakhan with radio host Cliff Kelley on WVON-AM 1690 Chicago

FARRAKHAN: "I warn my brother do you let these wicked demons move you in a direction that will absolutely ruin your future with your people in Africa and throughout the world...Why don't you organize a group of respected Americans and ask for a meeting with Qaddafi, you can't order him to step down and get out, who the hell do you think you are?

[Xill]

Well that much is obvious. I was just curious if there were NWO documents which might make better sense out of the code name.

The name comes from Homer's Odyssey (800 BC) and relates to Greek Mythology after the Trojan War.

http://classics.mit.edu/Homer/odyssey.html

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Odyssey

Which should lead you to read: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Trojan_War

I doubt there is anything to get from this besides what the Spaceman has mentioned on A View From Space tonight (Audio section of forum).

[birther truther tenther]

This ain't "our" war!

As usual, there was no Congressional involvement, it was just Kissinger and Co. shitting out a "UN Resolution", and the US Navy "Global Force for Good" fires an assload of precision guided missiles paid for by corporate welfare during the eve of an vernal equinox/Supermoon.

This is so Britain and France can get easy access to O.I.L. and a bunch of dipshit fat cats can play out their delusional religious fantasies on a bunch of Muslims.

Zionists will be waving their Made-In-China Israeli and American flags in support.

Max Boot and the other war criminals' "Revolution in Military Affairs" is going into full swing, and the roidboys at the BB forums will cheer it on while claiming that it's a conspiracy theory and doesn't exist.  Libyans need fweedumb so let's bomb 'em with corporate welfare produced missiles!

[Valerius]

"UPDATE 2-Gaddafi says will arm civilians to defend Libya"

Sat Mar 19, 2011

© Thomson Reuters 2011 All rights reserved

http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFLDE72I0OF20110319

[Xill]

Blair, Gaddafi and the BP oil deal

30 May 2007


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1553044/Blair-Gaddafi-and-the-BP-oil-deal.html

...Mr Blair was greeted with great fanfare when he landed at Sirte airport yesterday. Beneath a large poster of Col Gaddafi, a guard of honour presented arms and a motley brass band struck up a merry cacophony bearing some resemblance to God Save The Queen.

Col Gaddafi, unshaven, unkempt and swathed in brown robes, smiled thinly as Mr Blair arrived in his tent. Afterwards, the Prime Minister described their talks as "positive and constructive".

Britain and Libya will co-operate more closely in the fight against terrorism and their rapprochement was good for both countries and the "wider region", he said.

The key moments in Libya's transformation came in December 2003, when Col Gaddafi handed over his entire inventory of weapons of mass destruction to British and American experts, and also revealed an illegal stockpile of chemical munitions and a covert nuclear weapons programme.

In addition, Libya disclosed details of its suppliers, which allowed Britain and America to prove that Abdul Qadeer Khan, the former head of Pakistan's nuclear programme, had been running a "nuclear supermarket" selling the key components for making atomic bombs to the highest bidders.

Prior to this, Libya had one by one removed other obstacles to better relations with the West. It agreed to pay compensation to the families of the 270 people who died when PanAm flight 173 was destroyed over Lockerbie in 1988. Two Libyan intelligence agents were handed over for trial and one was convicted of placing a bomb on board.

Also inside the tent yesterday was Peter Sutherland, the chairman of BP, which subsequently announced that it will return to Libya more than three decades after Col Gaddafi, filled with revolutionary fervour, nationalised all the company's assets in the country.

Officials travelling with Mr Blair said the oil firm had signed a £450 million agreement, with the prospect of 17 wells being drilled. They added that if all this exploration reached its full potential the deal could be worth £13 billion...

Full Article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1553044/Blair-Gaddafi-and-the-BP-oil-deal.html

He's their obedient puppet.

[Xill]

Tony Blair our very special adviser by dictator Gaddafi's son
5th June 2010

"Tony Blair has become an adviser to Colonel Gaddafi, the Libyan dictator's son has sensationally claimed.

Saif al-Islam Gaddafi said the former prime minister has secured a consultancy role with a state fund that manages the country's £65billion of oil wealth.

In an exclusive interview, Saif described Mr Blair as a 'personal family friend' of the Libyan leader and said he had visited the country 'many, many times' since leaving Downing Street three years ago."

"'For us, he is a personal family friend. I first met him around four years ago at Number 10. Since then I've met him several times in Libya where he stays with my father. He has come to Libya many, many times..."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1284132/Tony-Blair-special-adviser-dictator-Gaddafis-son.html#ixzz1H7V2eFSL

[Xill]

Why Gaddafi's Now a Good Guy
May 16, 2006

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1194766,00.html

[Valerius]

Good find, Xill.

More Orwellian turnarounding.

[agentbluescreen]

This is sheer idiotic lunacy

[JT Coyoté]

I guess i should rephrase my original question. They have a reason for everything they do, so why did they name the "operation (read war mongering) as "Odyssey Dawn." It must be code for something exactly...I mean, do they see this whole thing as the Dawn of something major?

We can look at this in the classical sense for a logical meaning if you like. A meaning that will likely be the basis of their plan given their tendency to use the ancients as guides in their undertakings. Given this, "Odyssey Dawn" will prove to be the beginning of the corporate transition phase, the "Dawn" of Corporatism's world rule.  

For almost 500 years this elitist Juggernaut has been gaining steam. This new "Operation" in their long term, multi generational odyssey of world domination represents their end-game plan, the final phase in "The Corporation's" conquest of the world.

"The Odyssey" by Homer, begins at the end of the Trojan War. Odysseus (Ulysses) and the Greeks had successfully baited the Trojans with the Trojan Horse and destroyed Troy.

Keep in mind here that we the people and nations of the world, have been incrementally baited and slowly infiltrated by the illusion of wealth and power, the gifts of the elite. Systematically each nation has been beaten, conned, or cajoled into believing in the Malthusian Corporatist false paradigms of left/right, liberal/conservative, Communist/Capitalist, democrat/republican, the whole bipolar lexicon. This had been the Globalist's Trojan Horse gift for us all, the world.

Now begins their Odyssey, not as Odysseus but as the litany of life destroying monsters set against the righteous man as described by Homer. this is our Odyssey... will the world survive?  The tiny elite and their minions have involved the people of America and the so called first world, by fiat, in their genocide against us by our own hand through lie and stealth, then using our wealth and name to provocateur war after war to slaughter millions around the world who unlike us, in their Cultural and Tribal Liberty, resist them...

The Odyssey, ~Homer, BC 800

We must pray deeply for the People of Libya... they will be the victims, not Gaddaffi...

JTCoyoté

"Find out just what people will submit to, and you have
found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which
will be imposed upon them; .... The limits of tyrants are
prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
~Frederick Douglass

[donnay]

We can look at this in the classical sense for a logical meaning if you like. A meaning that will likely be the basis of their plan given their tendency to use the ancients as guides in their undertakings. Given this, "Odyssey Dawn" will prove to be the beginning of the corporate transition phase, the "Dawn" of Corporatism's world rule.  

For almost 500 years this elitist Juggernaut has been gaining steam. This new "Operation" in their long term, multi generational odyssey of world domination represents their end-game plan, the final phase in "The Corporation's" conquest of the world.

"The Odyssey" by Homer, begins at the end of the Trojan War. Odysseus (Ulysses) and the Greeks had successfully baited the Trojans with the Trojan Horse and destroyed Troy.

Keep in mind here that we the people and nations of the world, have been incrementally baited and slowly infiltrated by the illusion of wealth and power, the gifts of the elite. Systematically each nation has been beaten, conned, or cajoled into believing in the Malthusian Corporatist false paradigms of left/right, liberal/conservative, Communist/Capitalist, democrat/republican, the whole bipolar lexicon. This had been the Globalist's Trojan Horse gift for us all, the world.

Now begins their Odyssey, not as Odysseus but as the litany of life destroying monsters set against the righteous man as described by Homer. this is our Odyssey... will the world survive?  The tiny elite and their minions have involved the people of America and the so called first world, by fiat, in their genocide against us by our own hand through lie and stealth, then using our wealth and name to provocateur war after war to slaughter millions around the world who unlike us, in their Cultural and Tribal Liberty, resist them...

The Odyssey, ~Homer, BC 800

We must pray deeply for the People of Libya... they will be the victims, not Gaddaffi...

JTCoyoté

"Find out just what people will submit to, and you have
found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which
will be imposed upon them; .... The limits of tyrants are
prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
~Frederick Douglass

Well said, JT!

The hijack American government continue to kick a hornet's nest!!  We have absolutely no business in Libya!

[Suriel]

Dennis Kucinich: Libya Missile Strike An Impeachable Offense
March 20, 2011 08:20 AM EDT

Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) is questioning President Barack Obama's decision to participate in Saturday's missile attack on forces loyal to Muammar Gaddafi in Libya.

During a conference call with fellow Democrats yesterday, Kucinich asked if the missile strikes should be considered an impeachable defense.

"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation," Dennis Kucinich said in a statement issued on Friday.

read more @ http://politics.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979149868

[TahoeBlue]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occidental_Petroleum
...
 Occidental won exploration rights in Libya in 1965 and operated there until all activities were suspended in 1986 after the United States imposed economic sanctions on Libya.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/23/libya-occidental-idUSWEN835720110223
Occidental evacuates foreign workers from Libya

Feb 23 2011 (Reuters) - Occidental Petroleum Corp (OXY.N) evacuated all of its expatriate employees and their families from Libya on Wednesday in reaction to the unrest in the country, a company spokesman said.

[One Revelator]

Dennis Kucinich: Libya Missile Strike An Impeachable Offense
March 20, 2011 08:20 AM EDT

He can question it all he wants. The flight plan doesn’t change. Congress will continue to do as the owners of the US Congress and Presidency tell them.

[Valerius]

Congress has just had it's last shreds of relevancy stripped from it's third branch.

[MrSwe]

"UPDATE 2-Gaddafi says will arm civilians to defend Libya"

Sat Mar 19, 2011

© Thomson Reuters 2011 All rights reserved

http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFLDE72I0OF20110319

If this is true, then I gotta hand it to Gaddafi.


For Gaddafi this is a double-edged sword though, but I guess he would rather be dethroned by his people than by the NATO banksters.

[One Revelator]

Congress has just had it's last shreds of relevancy stripped from it's third branch.

Things are changing a bit. Why bother with lies, deceit, and secrecy when you can just exercise stolen power?  Perhaps the government will need to be downsized with the permanent elimination of the Congress. (as a cost saving measure, of course) Such is the eventual reward for all lap-dog sell-outs. Hey, it’s what the people want – smaller government and “change”.

[Valerius]

Someone needs to tell Congress Critters they better start standing up for themselves or the lobbyists might stop writing checks. Why bother?

[Kilika]

Congress has just had it's last shreds of relevancy stripped from it's third branch.

Where have you been? Congress hasn't operated in a Constitutionally relevant manner in over 200 years!

[Freeski]

We must eliminate our Departments of Education. It all starts there.

Only then do we cut the rest of them.

[Valerius]

They had some guy on talking about how they are freedom fighters, and the other guy asked him who the leaders were... and it was like blink, blink... off script, uh oh, nothing to say. Back to blow'n shit up footage, quick.

They don't even know who or what they are talking about or seem to care, for that matter. It's just another undeclared war, yippee.

[Xill]

Found one article about the French side of things from Thierry Meyssan, the author of 9/11 the Big Lie

"Operation Odyssey Dawn" breaking for Washington


The peculiar Air Operations Command logo: the gladiator does not protect the bird of freedom, but entraps it in his net instead.


"It was France, the United Kingdom and the United States who submitted to the UN Security Council the text which was adopted as resolution 1793, establishing a no-fly zone over Libya.

This initiative must be understood in two ways:
First, vis-à-vis public opinion at home Barack Obama could not afford to take on a third war in the Muslim world after those in Afghanistan and Iraq, where his country is still mired. Washington thus preferred to delegate this operation to its allies.
Secondly, acting on behalf of U.S. interests favourable to the "special relationship" between London and Washington, Nicolas Sarkozy’s priority since the beginning of his mandate has been to bring French and British defenses closer together. He achieved this through the defense agreements of 2 November 2010 and found in the Libyan crisis an opportunity for joint action...

...To launch the Franco-British expeditionary force, the competent ministers of both countries, Liam Fox and Alain Juppé (Minister of Defense from 14 November 2010 to 27 February 2011) planned a large-scale joint air exercise dubbed Southern Mistral, scheduled to take place from 21 to 25 March 2011. It should feature "Composite Air Operations and a specific air raid (Southern Storm), delivering very long range conventional strike. Over 500 personnel will contribute to this bilateral exercise", according to the Southern Mistral website edited by the Air Defense Command and Air Operations.

"Six Royal Air Force Tornado GR4s, one tanker Vickers VC-10 and one Boeing E3D will be deployed together with French Air force Mirage 2000Ds, 2000Ns and 2000Cs operating with a fleet of around thirty aircraft including helicopters, Boeing tankers and Awacs radar aircraft (...)
Simultaneously, Paratrooper Commando Air 20 (CPA20) will receive its British counterpart in Dijon: the RAF Regiment. Together they will train for air base protection missions on operational theatres in compliance with what is achieved today in Afghanistan.
Furthermore, RAF Regiment members will train in Captieux to helicopters’ air policing measures. These specific procedures are implemented on a daily basis by the Quick reaction Alert FAF air defence helicopters to intervene against “slow movers”, further specifies the official communique.

This exercise was to be directed by Generals Desclaux and de Longvilliers (France), air Marshall Garwood and air commodore Maas (United Kingdom).

Coincidence or by design? Be that as it may, it was not an exercise but the real operation in application of UN Security Council resolution 1793 that was launched on 19 March 2011. Only France, the United Kingdom and the United States participated in the first day operation. Pending the enlistment of other NATO member states and the constitution of a coalition command, all operations are being coordinated from AfriCom Headquarters in Stuttgart (Germany) by U.S. General Carter Ham. Naval forces - including Italian and Canadian vessels that join the area - and the tactical command have been placed under the authority of U.S. Admiral Samuel J. Locklear, on board the USS Mount Whitney. All that in accordance with NATO’s precooked preparedness plan [1]. We are far from the official rhetoric regarding the French initiative, but squarely within the logic of subservience described above.

The French component of the operation has been denominated Harmattan, after the dry and dusty wind that blows across West Africa.

Its British counterpart is called Operation Ellamy..."

http://www.voltairenet.org/article168980.html

[Xill]

Libyan-Italian relations: Forget the elephants!



Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi (L) and Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi (R) arrive at a ceremony in Rome on 29 August 2010 to mark the second anniversary of a friendship treaty between their respective countries.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article168874.html

[chrisfromchi]

google says libya's population is 6.4 million.

iraq's was 35 million.

[Xill]

A BRIGHT SPOT: CANADA'S VERENEX STRIKES OIL IN LIBYA

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wikileaks-files/libya-wikileaks/8294933/A-BRIGHT-SPOT-CANADAS-VERENEX-STRIKES-OIL-IN-LIBYA.html

If you ever wonder why Canada is participating beside Harper being a US puppet...

"...Comment: Verenex's recent discoveries in Libya are a bright spot in an otherwise uncertain firmament for companies in the exploration phase. Slumping oil prices, renewed pressure on international oil companies (IOCs) to contribute to the claims compensation fund and al-Qadhafi's recent call for possible nationalization of the oil industry are causing many companies to debate whether they will be able to ride out this rough patch..."