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Author Topic: Speculative Radiation Numbers from HAARP/Stuxnet Quake/Nuke False Flag in Japan  (Read 51503 times)
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« Reply #720 on: March 30, 2011, 08:07:36 PM »

Name or identify even one example of a new NSA/STUX -based worm targeted at the Windoze-based interface programming of any other Siemens chipset-controlled industrial process or processes? There was only ONE "Stuxnet" weapon released by the CIA Mafia and it was designed specifically to sabotage the Iranian uranium enrichment processing centrifuge-cascades.

I'll gladly concede that HAARP is another whole issue about which nobody can really be certain but this one I feel is way, way off the mark. You only need electricity and switch and a motor to run cooling water pumps. Anyone could easily tell if they were on or off with their ear, a thermometer or a glance at a glass-ball flowmeter.

Did STUXNET need one instance before its precision strike capabilities were launched against Iran? Your argument does not follow logic. It would be a stretch to say it was STUXNET before we knew what it was, but to not investigate it when we have the same symptoms, the same motives, the same players is beyond me. It is a brand new weapon, it has been used once admitted to representing likely one of the greatest crimes against humanity oter than a tsunami weapon. THIS WEAPON CAUSES NUCLEAR MELTDOWNS...NOTHING ELSE DOES OTHER THAN SABOTAGE.

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You aren't paying attention to the detail of what's been posted, this IS like the CIT thing but you're the one insisting on a bomb and claiming the plane wasn't there. ( this time )
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« Reply #721 on: April 01, 2011, 02:58:09 AM »

http://chronicle.augusta.com/latest-news/2011-03-31/srs-concrete-pump-heading-japan-nuclear-site

SO we get the biggest RUSSIAN PLANE (ANTONOV 225) ACTUALLY WORLDS LARGEST..and the biggest us CONCRETE contractor, and the best GERMAN tech and

TOGETHER WE ALL SAVE THE WORLD FROM THE EVIL RADIATION.

and since i have all that blood in me as an AMERICAN.....I HAD A temporary wo((*^DIE......thinking of the PRIDE that I had that WE ARE THE WORLD AND WE ARE GOING TO SAVE THE WORLD!!!


IS ANYBODY OUT THERE HEARING ME?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #722 on: April 01, 2011, 03:32:43 AM »

together we will form... PUTZATRON!
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« Reply #723 on: April 01, 2011, 09:25:42 AM »

Just so we are all clear who the enemy is and how they operate...


"Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence;
supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting."

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"To keep people everywhere from deciding their own destinies by means of one created crisis after another and then “managing” such crises. This will confuse and demoralize the population to the extent where faced with too many choices, apathy on a massive scale will result. In the case of the United States, an agency for crisis management is already in place. It is called the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), whose existence I first disclosed in 1980. There will be more on FEMA as we proceed."

-John Coleman Committee of 300 http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_committee300_02.htm

Hey Tavistock...I got your apathy right here, you pieces of psychopathic crapola!  


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« Reply #724 on: April 01, 2011, 01:04:12 PM »

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« Reply #725 on: April 01, 2011, 02:48:37 PM »

WATCH THIS:

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Brilliant thanks!


Dr John Coleman The Conspirators - Hierarchy The Committee of 300 PDF
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Dr John Coleman - The tavistock institute of human relations PDF
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Dr John Coleman - The Rothschild Dynasty PDF
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« Reply #726 on: April 13, 2011, 07:35:05 PM »

I am in a suburb of Toronto, Canada, and have been taking readings on my Inspector Alert geiger counter since about a week after the Fukushima explosions.  In particular I was directing the 2" pancake tube at the grass on my front lawn from about 1-2 " away.  Three weeks ago I was getting random readings in the range of10-40 CPM, which is very characteristic of typical background radiation.....every so often I'd get a spike in the high 40s, MAYBE hitting 50 the odd time.

Today was a different story.  I measured the same patch of lawn in the same area.  I was getting SUSTAINED readings in the 52-62 CPM range.  The lack of the reading jumping randomly up and down, but rather a steady, sustained range, indicated that this was no longer measuring background radiation.  Clearly there was a continuous elevated radiation source, that was not background cosmic radiation.

That said, readings in the 52-62 range are still very low, BUT they are nevertheless double what I was getting a few weeks ago.....and sustained this time instead of random.

This did cause me some alarm, as there has been many reports from as far away as Europe, about milk contamination.  Not a surprise considering the grass filters the rainwater and then the cow eat the grass, concentrating the radiation in their milk.  I am no doubt going to start monitoring any milk and large leaf vegetables consumed by my family, especially my kids.

And to think this is only three weeks after the incident.  As this radiation accumulates I only expect it to get worse.

Lastly, if I didn't have a geiger counter, I'd be none the wiser!
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« Reply #727 on: April 14, 2011, 01:46:52 AM »

Kazkru - where did you buy your counter and how much are they?

I`m in the uk, tried but so far i can only lay my hands on one at work !

I want one for home!

Also - please do a experiment for me - go out immediately after thje next rainfall and re evaluate the CPM. I have a theory that its worse in the rain.
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« Reply #728 on: April 14, 2011, 07:35:37 AM »

Kazkru - where did you buy your counter and how much are they?

I`m in the uk, tried but so far i can only lay my hands on one at work !

I want one for home!

Also - please do a experiment for me - go out immediately after thje next rainfall and re evaluate the CPM. I have a theory that its worse in the rain.

I've had it for over a year, but at the time purchased it from Global Test Supply.  At the time it was cheapest there, but I think http://www.geigercounters.com/Inspector.htm now has the one I have for the cheapest price....only problem is, they, as well as all sellers, are way backordered now.

Yesterday's measurement was taken about 2-3 hours following a light rain.  That's what actually prompted me to take the reading.  I will take readings daily now and post my numbers.

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« Reply #729 on: April 14, 2011, 08:06:07 AM »

KazKru - where do you live--general area?
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« Reply #730 on: April 14, 2011, 08:44:23 AM »

Did STUXNET need one instance before its precision strike capabilities were launched against Iran? Your argument does not follow logic. It would be a stretch to say it was STUXNET before we knew what it was, but to not investigate it when we have the same symptoms, the same motives, the same players is beyond me. It is a brand new weapon, it has been used once admitted to representing likely one of the greatest crimes against humanity oter than a tsunami weapon. THIS WEAPON CAUSES NUCLEAR MELTDOWNS...NOTHING ELSE DOES OTHER THAN SABOTAGE.
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You're welcome to disagree, and suggest other investigations but they would largely be irrelevant and there's nothing tosuggest that thes ancient 1950's US Navy war surplus GE reactors and the technologies they employ use any type of a Windoze PC computer or German Seimens industrial process controller to do or control anything on that site. It would be suicidal to rely on such modern household or industrial garbage to run any part of the operation of a nuclear reactor of this vintage or even it's (or it's fuel pool's) stupid cooling-water pump.

What we have here is criminal incompetence and negligence inherent in the DEEPLY FLAWED designs of this unsafe garbage where many hundreds of MEGAWATTS of supposedly "surplus" FREE heat energy from decaying, stored fuel rods and the decaying, "shut down" fuel rod cores themselves, was STUPIDLY and cavalierly being totally and irresponsible wasted with the grossly improper, unsafe and inappropriate use of external power to run water pumps essential to safely cool them down!

This FREE Heat Energy was being irresponsibly, unsafely and criminally "dumped into the environment as Thermal Pollution!

There is no "other" reason why or how the Fukushima disaster happened. It's plain and simple - it was caused by negligence and waste!

FREE HEAT ENERGY = FREE ELECTRICAL ENERGY ! Converting one to the other is the simplest of child's play!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermocouple#Power_production




All fuel rods are the essential core-heat producing element of an atomic battery. the fuel storage racks and the reactor core should be bristling with them to act as auxiliary uninterruptible power "thermopiles" (thousands of free heat > free electricity batteries)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermopile

You don't need either power lines,  generators or batteries to damn well just pump water - AT ALL, unsafely relying upon such other power sources to keep them safely cooled is sheer stupidity and negligence.  

 
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« Reply #731 on: April 14, 2011, 08:57:09 AM »

KazKru - where do you live--general area?

In a suburb of Toronto, Ontario.
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« Reply #732 on: April 14, 2011, 09:02:01 AM »

Kazkru - where did you buy your counter and how much are they?

I`m in the uk, tried but so far i can only lay my hands on one at work !

I want one for home!

Also - please do a experiment for me - go out immediately after thje next rainfall and re evaluate the CPM. I have a theory that its worse in the rain.

I should have mentioned that there is significant rainfall forecast for the Toronto area this coming weekend, so I will be taking regular readings.
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« Reply #733 on: April 24, 2011, 09:37:13 PM »

As of yesterday my readings are now showing regular sustained readings off my lawn off 50-70 CPM.  The higher end of the range is up over a week ago (see my earlier posts in this thread).

So, as time goes on, radioactive iosotopes are definitely aggregating on the ground in the Toronto area.

For those familiar with the Greater Toronto Area, I was down in the Oakville area yesterday a well.  Readings were sustained around 70-75 in Oakville....slighly higher than Toronto.

Of course these numbers are all non-scientific and have not been collected in a well controlled experimental manner.  I am using a Inspector Alert handheld with a quite sensitive 2" pancake tube.

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« Reply #734 on: April 26, 2011, 07:22:38 AM »

Heavy rain in Toronto overnight.

I went out this morning and noticed a significant jump in background radiation, with sustained readings between 60-75 CPM.  The last few updates I posted were readings off my lawn which were up in this level, but, until now, background radiation still remained random and low (15-40 CPM).

Folks, there is NO DOUBT, Fukushima is here, and is GROWING as the days go on.

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« Reply #735 on: May 04, 2011, 03:41:19 AM »

It's been the rainiest month in Toronto history, and the radiation continues to be precipitated out, aggregating on trees, plants and grass.

Today was the highest readings I have yet recorded off my lawn.  I was getting sustained levels of 80-85 CPM.

All the while, the media remains absolutely silent about this.

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« Reply #736 on: May 05, 2011, 01:24:52 AM »

Hey there - thanks for the info - the media has gone totally dark on this despite the fact its still leaking ! 1120 milli seiverts an hour i read yesterday . . .

Still trying to get a detector here in the UK
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« Reply #737 on: May 05, 2011, 01:26:16 PM »

Wow Kazkru--those numbers are getting scary. I sure don't like this - isn't Toronto Ontario area far from where I live in the West?  I mean I live in Washington State. If your numbers are that high, then it must be worse where I live. This is not good.

Okay, I'm going to get one of those counters--uh, I mean I'm going to TRY to get one.

Keep letting us know if the numbers get higher for you Kazkru....thanks
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« Reply #738 on: May 05, 2011, 03:13:13 PM »

As I mentioned, I believe it was the rainiest month in the Toronto area in history.  I am assuming the same can be said for possibly the whole of the Great Lakes area as well as the US North East.

All of the areas listed above are directly below the jet stream as it passes over North America, which means we are certainly on the path to receive any air bound fallout....especially if it is precipated out through rain.

Given that, as I mentioned, it was the rainiest past month in recorded history, it really gets me thinking suspiciously when I read an article like this.....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1549366/How-we-made-the-Chernobyl-rain.html
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« Reply #739 on: May 05, 2011, 08:53:35 PM »

As I mentioned, I believe it was the rainiest month in the Toronto area in history.  I am assuming the same can be said for possibly the whole of the Great Lakes area as well as the US North East.

All of the areas listed above are directly below the jet stream as it passes over North America, which means we are certainly on the path to receive any air bound fallout....especially if it is precipated out through rain.

Given that, as I mentioned, it was the rainiest past month in recorded history, it really gets me thinking suspiciously when I read an article like this.....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1549366/How-we-made-the-Chernobyl-rain.html

So they diverted rainfall to drop the heaviest concentrations of radiation on towns of their choosing?
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« Reply #740 on: May 06, 2011, 01:29:02 AM »

They could of course do that - anyone live in or can check out rainfall over DC / London etc in the last month? UK April driest on record !

Coincidence? Maybe.
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« Reply #741 on: May 06, 2011, 02:57:46 AM »

WATCH THIS:

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=170819614143019768#
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Excellent video!!

I found out he was a guest on Alex's show June 23, 2010.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-px9lb1nraQ

Here is a thread that was started too:  http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=21792.0
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« Reply #742 on: May 06, 2011, 06:05:41 AM »


Genuine food poisoning or a smokescreen for radiation sickness? 4 dead and 56 ill. 200 miles south west of Fukushima.



Four dead after eating raw beef at Japanese restaurant chain

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FOUR people died after eating raw beef served at a barbecue restaurant chain in Japan, broadcaster NHK reported Thursday.

Two young boys and two women fell sick and died of food poisoning at restaurants of the Yakiniku-zakaya Ebisu chain in Toyama and Fukui prefectures.

Dozens of other customers have also fallen sick in other prefectures.

The O-111 strain of E. coli bacteria was detected in the bodies of the dead boys, health authorities said.

Sources said a Tokyo meat wholesaler produced the beef exclusively for the barbecue chain.

The wholesaler told health ministry officials the meat was meant to be eaten cooked. They said the beef had been sliced, vacuum-packed and stored in refrigerators.

However, the restaurant chain said the wholesaler assured them the meat was safe to eat raw.

Japan's health ministry is investigating along with police in Toyama and Fukui.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/world/four-dead-after-eating-raw-beef-at-japanese-restaurant-chain/story-e6frfkyi-1226050618333#ixzz1LZZ05kn3

Another boy found to have died after eating at yakiniku chain
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110502p2g00m0dm004000c.html
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« Reply #743 on: May 08, 2011, 12:32:29 AM »

I've been measuring tap water in the Toronto area (Mississauga....a suburb of Toronto) for the past 6-7 weeks, with my Geiger counter.  All was OK up until my measurement today.  Today I was recording sustained readings off the tap water in the range of 55-70 CPM.  This is easily a double from the pre-Fukushima baseline readings I have been getting. 

Though I've been measuring increases in rain water and the outside air for the past several weeks, tap water was the last to rise.  This is probably due to the time it takes from the water working its way through the intakes in Lake Ontario, through the pumping stations, fluoridation/chlorination process, and up in into the reservoirs where it may sit for days to weeks before winding up in our homes.

This is very disturbing, since you could always drink imported bottled water, but I don't believe there is any way to filter this our of our bath/shower water, or the water that is used to wash our clothes and dishes.  This will also mean it will start to be used in all foods packed in water.  It affects everything.

I have to young kids, and all I can think about is them sitting in a tub full of radioactive bathwater!
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« Reply #744 on: May 09, 2011, 01:40:59 AM »

WOW!

I guess "natural mineral water" is out too - or not? since it comes from underground?

I have kids too - I thinnk maybe showering might be the way to go - quick showers at that.

I think its time to get a reverse osmosis filter thing. i think (but am not certain ) that should make water safe.

(rain water not safe, tap water not safe, bottled water? depends on the date it was bottled i guess?
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« Reply #745 on: May 09, 2011, 08:13:16 AM »

WOW!

I think its time to get a reverse osmosis filter thing. i think (but am not certain ) that should make water safe.

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I'd really like to know an expert opinion on reverse osmosis, and if it can remove radioactive isotopes.  I wouldn't trust the opinion of a salesperson from the RO Filter company.

Anyone?


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« Reply #746 on: May 10, 2011, 03:57:32 AM »

I'd really like to know an expert opinion on reverse osmosis, and if it can remove radioactive isotopes.  I wouldn't trust the opinion of a salesperson from the RO Filter company.

Anyone?


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Solving an alpha radiation problem can be complex. Radon is not yet regulated and there continues to be discussion among scientists and regulators about the acceptable amount of radon in drinking water supplies. Also under discussion are future government requirements for disposal of radioactive wastes.

    Radium—Consider treatment when test results show that the total radium 226 and 228 is greater than or equal to 5 pCi/L. A water softener (also called a cation exchanger) can be used to remove radium from drinking water. In this method of treatment, radium is exchanged for sodium or potassium. When the softener is cleaned, the radium is flushed away with the wastewater into a disposal site such as a leachfield or municipal sewer.

    Another type of treatment called reverse osmosis has also been shown to remove most radium from drinking water. In this process, water is forced under pressure through a membrane leaving the radium behind. The radium is then flushed away. The process is relatively slow and may be more suitable for a household rather than a public water system.

    Uranium—The Vermont Water Supply Division(exit VDH)’s Uranium standard is 20 ug/L (micrograms per liter). This standard is used for public community water systems. For your private water supply you may want to consider treatment when test results show uranium at greater than or equal to 20 pCi/L or 20 ug/L. Anion exchange is a treatment similar to water softening except that in this case uranium is removed and exchanged for chloride. Reverse osmosis also removes uranium. Public systems have additional treatment options not available to homeowners such as lime softening (to reduce radium and uranium) and coagulation and filtration (to reduce uranium).

    Radon—If radon is present in your drinking water, test the air in your home as well. Consider treatment for your well water if the radon from the water is causing the level of radon in the air in your home to rise above the recommended indoor air action level of 4 pCi/L. It generally takes 10,000 pCi/L in water to increase the radon level in air by 1.0 pCi/L.

http://www.healthvermont.gov/enviro/rad/alpha.aspx



According to the EPA, the following treatment method(s) have proven to be effective in removing radionuclides at levels below their MCLs:

Beta particle and Photon Radiation: ion exchange and reverse osmosis;

(Gross) Alpha Emitters: reverse osmosis;

Radium 226 and Radium 228 (Combined): ion exchange, reverse osmosis, lime softening;

Uranium: Ion exchange, reverse osmosis, lime softening, coagulation/filtration

Aeration removes radon from water. In this treatment method, large volumes of air are blown through the water or the water is sprayed so that it is exposed to the air. In this way, the radon gas leaves the water and enters the air. The air is vented outside, and the treated water is repressurized and piped to faucets.

http://www.whatsthebestwaterfilter.com/RadiationInWater.html



How To Remove Radioactive Iodine-131 From Drinking Water

http://blogs.forbes.com/jeffmcmahon/2011/04/07/how-to-remove-radioactive-iodine-131-from-drinking-water/
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« Reply #747 on: May 18, 2011, 07:21:07 AM »

Thank you, Brocke!
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« Reply #748 on: May 18, 2011, 07:27:01 AM »

I haven't posted radiation counts in several days, but feel I need to give you the update from yesterday. 

As it continues to rain in the Toronto area almost every day, numbers yesterday peaked at 120 CPM.  This is by far the highest number yet I have recorded off the rain on the ground.  The previous high number was in the 80-90 range about a week ago.

This is getting to be terrifying, because I'm seeing it with my own measuring instrument.  If I'm getting those numbers in Toronto, I can only imagine what they are getting on the West Coast of Canada and the US.

According to the manufacturer of my device (Inspector Alert Handheld), 100 is considered an alert level.

I can't believe anything else now than to assume this is a eugenics operation, given the media and government agencies have gone COMPLETELY SILENT on this.

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« Reply #749 on: May 18, 2011, 09:49:28 AM »

The silent slow kill...
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« Reply #750 on: May 18, 2011, 10:34:55 AM »

I've had it for over a year, but at the time purchased it from Global Test Supply.  At the time it was cheapest there, but I think http://www.geigercounters.com/Inspector.htm now has the one I have for the cheapest price....only problem is, they, as well as all sellers, are way backordered now.

Yesterday's measurement was taken about 2-3 hours following a light rain.  That's what actually prompted me to take the reading.  I will take readings daily now and post my numbers.

Video it and throw it up on youtube!!!!  I am interested in those numbers and would ove to see those readings too, being in the Ottawa area.
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« Reply #751 on: May 18, 2011, 11:06:34 AM »

The silent slow kill...


We know that throughout Eastern North America we have had record rainfall this Spring.  I posted this before but think it's worthy to post again:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1549366/How-we-made-the-Chernobyl-rain.html
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« Reply #752 on: May 18, 2011, 11:12:20 AM »

Video it and throw it up on youtube!!!!  I am interested in those numbers and would ove to see those readings too, being in the Ottawa area.

I was thinking of doing that.
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« Reply #753 on: May 18, 2011, 12:13:01 PM »


We know that throughout Eastern North America we have had record rainfall this Spring.  I posted this before but think it's worthy to post again:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1549366/How-we-made-the-Chernobyl-rain.html

'How we made the Chernobyl rain'
By Richard Gray 12:01AM BST 22 Apr 2007

Russian military pilots have described how they created rain clouds to protect Moscow from radioactive fallout after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster in 1986.

Major Aleksei Grushin repeatedly took to the skies above Chernobyl and Belarus and used artillery shells filled with silver iodide to make rain clouds that would "wash out" radioactive particles drifting towards densely populated cities.

More than 4,000 square miles of Belarus were sacrificed to save the Russian capital from the toxic radioactive material.

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Creepy to think about. It's been raining almost non-stop here in Ontario for about 6 weeks. It's ending this weekend - finally - according to the forecasts. Of course Saturday will be the first day of sunshine, but it'll be the 21st and the world is scheduled to end! Tongue
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« Reply #754 on: May 24, 2011, 10:16:11 PM »


TEPCO Admits Meltdowns at Two More Cores

By Helena Zhu
Epoch Times Staff Created: May 24, 2011 Last Updated: May 24, 2011

In a report to Japan’s Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA), Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO), operator of the Fukushima plant at the center of the nuclear crisis, admitted Monday that there had been partial meltdowns at the cores of two more of its reactors.

In addition to the meltdown at the No. 1 reactor discovered on May 15, now it is known that the No. 2 and 3 reactors also experienced meltdowns in the wake of the March 11 earthquake and tsunami...

more: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/world/japan-nuclear-plant-operator-admits-two-more-meltdowns-56760.html
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« Reply #755 on: May 25, 2011, 01:46:50 AM »


'How we made the Chernobyl rain'
By Richard Gray 12:01AM BST 22 Apr 2007

Russian military pilots have described how they created rain clouds to protect Moscow from radioactive fallout after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster in 1986.

Major Aleksei Grushin repeatedly took to the skies above Chernobyl and Belarus and used artillery shells filled with silver iodide to make rain clouds that would "wash out" radioactive particles drifting towards densely populated cities.

More than 4,000 square miles of Belarus were sacrificed to save the Russian capital from the toxic radioactive material.

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Creepy to think about. It's been raining almost non-stop here in Ontario for about 6 weeks. It's ending this weekend - finally - according to the forecasts. Of course Saturday will be the first day of sunshine, but it'll be the 21st and the world is scheduled to end!

Unholy Hell ! Its been raining like mentl here in the UK AND they have been spraying ! Silver iodide it says .... hmmm.

http://www.ranches.org/cloudSeedingHarmful.htm

Is Cloud Seeding Harmful?

 by

Johnny Micou

 

When studying the efficacy and consequences of cloud seeding experiments, the experimenters tend to be biased in saying cloud seeding with silver iodide enhances precipitation without negative consequences. However, much of the literature substantiates that not only does cloud seeding fail to achieve the desired effect, it also yields harmful consequences. Some of these consequences include rain suppression, flooding, tornadoes, and silver iodide toxicity. (1,2,3)

 

The harm of rain suppression is obvious to everyone. For farmers and ranchers, this would mean no rain, no gain -- an economic loss. Losses would include poorer crop harvest, lack of range vegetation, and a loss of hunting lease income due to wildlife reduction. This is particularly true for ranches in western Potter County, an area PGCD has called “geographically handicapped.”(2) Most ranchers and farmers do not choose to take the gamble on their land and livelihood based on experimentation.(1,2)

 

The harmful effects of silver iodide are insidious.(3) Yet, according to the web site of the PGCD, the effects are so minimized that the following is stated: “The concentration of iodide in iodized salt used on food is far above the concentration found in rainwater from a seeded cloud.”(4) In addition, in early December of 2002, at the Amarillo meeting jointly conducted by the Panhandle Groundwater and the North Plains Groundwater Conservation Districts, one representative stated that silver iodide was good for the heart. In a private conversation, another explained that silver miners live longer. Iodized salt may seem benign; however, some states such as Colorado have outlawed the use of salting icy roads.(5) Among harmful effects, salt is toxic to the water and land.(5)

 

The Office of Environment, Health and Safety, UC Berkeley, rates silver iodide as a Class C, non-soluble, inorganic, hazardous chemical that pollutes water and soil.(Cool It has been found to be highly toxic to fish, livestock and humans.(6,7,8,9) Numerous medical articles demonstrate that humans absorb silver iodide through the lungs, nose, skin, and GI tract.(7,8,9) Mild toxicity can cause GI irritation, renal and pulmonary lesions, and mild argyria (blue or black discoloration of the skin). Severe toxicity can result in hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, shock, enlarged heart, severe argyria, and death by respiratory depression.(Cool

 

 

Moreover, a key manufacturer of silver iodide for weather modification, Deepwater Chemicals, warns of potential health effects of silver iodide in their Material Safety Data Sheet as follows:

           

            Chronic Exposure/Target Organs:     Chronic ingestion of iodides may produce “iodism”, which may be manifested by skin rash, running nose, headache and irritation of the mucous membranes. Weakness, anemia, loss of weight and general depression may also occur. Chronic inhalation or ingestion may cause argyria characterized by blue-gray discoloration of the eyes, skin and mucous membranes. Chronic skin contact may cause permanent discoloration of the skin.(10)

           

Under the guidelines of the Clean Water Act by the EPA, silver iodide is considered a hazardous substance, a priority pollutant, and as a toxic pollutant.(10) Some industries have learned this all too well.

 

Obviously the cloud-after-cloud, year-after-year use of cloud seeding could lead to an insidious, cumulative effect. Especially when the same area is repeatedly seeded. If the toxicity manifests in pollution and illnesses, the effects may not be reversible. At this point, the PGCD monitoring of silver iodide toxicity is so small as to be nonexistent and flawed. C.E. Williams states, “water samples taken after rain from seeded clouds have revealed no silver iodide.”(11) This is misleading.
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