Speculative Radiation Numbers from HAARP/Stuxnet Quake/Nuke False Flag in Japan

[egypt]

Just great.  Time to diffuse all the nuclear power plants here in America and build clean-burning coal plants.  Better yet, the $trillions gone missing from the treasury should provide solar panels for all our homes instead of cameras on the streets.

Love, e

[molarediere]

So let us recap the query made on this thread.  No one has a Geiger counter and no one has heard of a radiation level reading.  So in California it is possible there is no cause for concern, conversely we may be at evacuation level.  Load up on seaweed-Greg Pallast

[egypt]

Contact the nearest University and see if they are recording before, during & after radiation levels.

Love, e

[rubicondecision]

My question when looking at the 'model' is the accuracy of the radiation readings. 

Say John, I don't trust them either, but how would you personally develop a model? That data is all we have, unless you are volunteering to take some measurements.

[rubicondecision]

Unbelievably stupid thing that President Obama just said.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/03/16/president-obamas-2011-ncaa-brackets
As he does every year, the President filled out his brackets predicting the winners of the men's and women's NCAA basketball tournaments, but discussing it with Doris Burke of ESPN, he began with a call to stand with the people of Japan:

    One of the things I wanted to do on the show was, as people are filling out their brackets -- this is obviously a national pastime; we all have a great time, it’s a great diversion.  But I know a lot of people are thinking how can they help the Japanese people during this time of need.  If you go to usaid.gov -- usaid.gov -- that will list all the nonprofits, the charities that are helping out there.  It would be wonderful for people to maybe offer a little help to the Japanese people at this time -- as they’re filling out their brackets.  It’s not going to take a lot of time.  That's usaid.gov.  It could be really helpful.

Wow, what leadership....

[EvadingGrid]

Reports: Japan’s radiation problem appears out-of-control
By Lynn Herrmann.
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Tokyo - Latest reports from Japan reveal a country drowning in sorrow from last week’s devastating earthquake and tsunami, and it will now have to give undivided attention to a disaster of surging radiation levels at Fukushima’s Daiichi nuclear facility.
Scientists are warning that the fires associated with explosions at the Daiichi nuclear plant, where fuel storage pools have overheated, may be letting off radioactive steam.

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/304724#ixzz1GmrUlyEN

[rubicondecision]

http://www.breitbart.tv/nuclear-fallout-debate-gets-radioactive-on-fox-news/
Unbelievable one says 50 people died at Chernobyl. Clearly there are about a million people who died attributed to Chernobyl.

[rubicondecision]

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/us-energy-chief-says-partial-meltdown-has-occurred-fukushima-urges-all-us-citizens-within-80

[egypt]

So.  Just how many nuclear reactor rods are stacked on top of reactor buildings here in America?

Love, e

[rubicondecision]

http://jibtv.com/program/fullscreen.aspx
NHK World is currently running a tv program explaining the nuclear crisis. I highly recommend that people who are concerned watch this special. It explains in detail the order of events which lead up the spent rods being exposed and the meltdown. That is what they are MOST concerned about. Apparently there is no way to cool them efficiently. They are saying that the Japanese Self-Defense forces, the Japanese Police Department, and under advisement from the US military to cool the spent rod pool.

[rubicondecision]

http://jibtv.com/program/fullscreen.aspx NHK World tends to run the same program several times in case anyone wishes to here the official BS response.

[rubicondecision]

NHK World is saying that the radius of evacuation has now been expanded to 30 kilometers from the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant. (It's not 30 km from the center, which is puzzling). Evacuees are confused as they are sometimes being moved to accommodate the new radius, and there are new requirements at the new evacuation facilities.

They are saying (complete BS) that they radiation will have no short term effects.

They are monitoring radiation levels at Miyagi (but naturally they are not releasing the data to the public). They have 50 monitoring stations in Ibariki too. They are monitoring wind direction. They are recording the levels and they are increasing to 100 times the normal level of 50 nGy/h (i.e. 5000 nGy/h) but these level pose no short term risk.

[rubicondecision]

NHK World
The radiation traveled 200 kilometers over an 8 hour period. [The wind were to the South last night, which increased the radiation levels, it is currently blowing Westward]

Some of the radioactive substances particles spread as dust which was inhaled and gas, but they are comparing it to the tired analogy of chest Xrays. No immediate impact on human health. Most of the dust is following a low level of dispersion following the land. There wasn't a sustained amount of heat which would have raised the dust and gas into the upper atmosphere.

[rubicondecision]

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/17_01.html
An additional 28,000 evacuated to avoid radiation

[rubicondecision]

http://www.youtube.com/user/dutchsinse#p/u/13/aOVyfQMmc_I

dutchsinse has been tracking the earthquake and the nuclear disaster. I highly recommend his channel. It's a good place to see the latest information. If you go directly to the youtube channel, there are links to three computer models for the radiation cloud.

[rubicondecision]

NHK World is reporting that Tokyo Electic is attempting to run new power lines to the Fukushima reactor site. Work had previously been halted due to radiation levels.

Cooling the spent fuel rods has been problematic using special equipment. It is hoped that if power is restored, that the cooling piping is intact and they can regain control.

Another link: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=13149830

[rubicondecision]

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/78704.html
Radioactive steam leak again. Companies are refusing to deliver material since there is radiation. "If cooling operations do not proceed well, the situation will ''reach a critical stage in a couple of days,'' an agency official said."

"At 12:30 p.m. Wednesday, the radiation level reached 10,850 microsievert per hour at the plant's entrance, but it later dropped below 1,500 microsievert at 4:20 p.m.

The highest level on Wednesday was lower than the 400,000 microsievert per hour -- equivalent to 400 times the level to which people can be safely exposed in one year -- recorded Tuesday, the highest level so far reported at the plant."

"Meanwhile, the science and technology ministry said the radiation level in Namie, Fukushima Prefecture, on Tuesday was around 6,600 times higher than normal. The town lies within the area where residents have been urged to stay indoors."

[rubicondecision]

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20110316/APN/1103161533
Feds deploy more radiation monitors in western US

"The Environmental Protection Agency already monitors radiation throughout the area as part of its RadNet system, which measures levels in air, drinking water, milk and rain."
http://www.epa.gov/narel/radnet/
How to access the scientific data: http://www.epa.gov/narel/radnet/pdf/How_to_Access_RadNet_Data.pdf
Go to www.epa.gov/cdx On the left side select “Login” On the new left side select “registration” Select “continue” Select “I accept” Enter your information including a password When given the list of access programs, select Radiation Network (RadNet) There is one more required field that pops up and enter N/A into that After an option to select more programs, you will be taken to the RadNet page.

Radnet has radiation monitoring in all fifty states and in US territories.

[Sasha]

He told me that what the Geiger counters do is primarily detect, alpha, gamma, beta, x-ray and background radiation levels.  He told me he is not the 'expert' and there are more qualified people to explain why these readings ARE important in how they relate to the other isotopes.  He explained it as all the 'other' isotopes contain alpha and or, gamma, beta, x-ray particles within them.  So, these readings and their levels serve as a 'looking glass' into all the different particular isotope radiation that could be in the air.   Basically if these other isotopes are present background radiation levels will show an increase along with the others. 

Gamma radiation seems to be key in the detection here.

EPA deploys more radiation monitors to the West Coast
http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_17621522?source=rss&nclick_check=1

As public concern grows about radiation from Japan possibly drifting to the West Coast of the United States, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency on Tuesday announced that it will deploy more electronic monitors that measure radiation levels in the air.

The monitors, which detect gamma radiation and radioactive particles, will be set up in "parts of the Western U.S. and U.S. territories," the agency said in a statement.

[rubicondecision]

radnet registration is very intrusive. I can't recommend it, but it will most likely give you the best information.

http://jen.jiji.com/jc/eng?g=eco&k=2011031700034
"The firm kept working to pump seawater into the pressure vessels of the No. 1, 2 and 3 reactors of the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant. But the water levels have not reached the top of the nuclear fuel rods, and portions of the fuel rods thus remained exposed."

[rubicondecision]

http://www.stripes.com/news/http-www-stripes-com-news-pentagon-preparing-for-a-nuclear-worst-case-scenario-at-fukushima-1-1379-1.137969
Pentagon preparing for a nuclear worst-case scenario at Fukushima
"If the deteriorating situation at a Japanese nuclear plant veers toward a worst-case meltdown scenario, people across the country — including 86,000 American service members, civilian employees and their dependents — could face an unprecedented atomic disaster."

It's a good article with a lot more information that's worth reading.

[rubicondecision]

http://www.stripes.com/news/commander-decision-to-evacuate-bases-in-japan-would-come-from-state-department-1.137818
"U.S. standards do not require an evacuation until 5,000 millirems are detected, Gardner said."

[Georgiacopguy]

http://www.stripes.com/news/http-www-stripes-com-news-pentagon-preparing-for-a-nuclear-worst-case-scenario-at-fukushima-1-1379-1.137969
Pentagon preparing for a nuclear worst-case scenario at Fukushima
"If the deteriorating situation at a Japanese nuclear plant veers toward a worst-case meltdown scenario, people across the country — including 86,000 American service members, civilian employees and their dependents — could face an unprecedented atomic disaster."

It's a good article with a lot more information that's worth reading.

Yet Maobama told Americans in Tokyo there was no need to leave Japan. He signed their death warrants, by contributing bad info to their decision making process, knowing that people pay attention, albeit in some cases blindly, to what the government tells them. If people die, he is duplicitous in their deaths.

[rubicondecision]

http://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/earthquake-disaster-in-japan/u-s-navy-low-level-radiation-detected-at-some-tokyo-area-bases-1.137754

[Scarbo]

On a side note, is there a way to get civilian data from the entire west coast of the U.S.? Someone on the show suggested that military are being mobilized in that direction with full hazmat gear. Our own government may lie about the level of contamination as a false flag, or even release extra radioactive isotopes there.

Of course they could use HAARP to quake a nuclear plant in California, too.

[MonkeyPuppet]

On a side note, is there a way to get civilian data from the entire west coast of the U.S.? Someone on the show suggested that military are being mobilized in that direction with full hazmat gear. Our own government may lie about the level of contamination as a false flag, or even release extra radioactive isotopes there.

Of course they could use HAARP to quake a nuclear plant in California, too.

So far, we have http://www.radiationnetwork.com ... monitors reporting are not necessarily military or government

[rubicondecision]

On a side note, is there a way to get civilian data from the entire west coast of the U.S.? Someone on the show suggested that military are being mobilized in that direction with full hazmat gear. Our own government may lie about the level of contamination as a false flag, or even release extra radioactive isotopes there.

Of course they could use HAARP to quake a nuclear plant in California, too.

While it is true that there are radiation monitors from two websites, there are very few monitors. The best way to monitor is probably through the EPA radnet, but you have to register all of your contact information.

[rubicondecision]

There is a stream of information that can be found here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

[rubicondecision]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/NRC-No-water-in-spent-fuel-apf-2091500355.html?x=0&.v=1
NRC: No water in spent fuel pool of Japan plant
US nuclear agency chief says no water in spent fuel pool at Japan plant; Japan denies it

[Georgiacopguy]

I think Japan denying everything stems from at least a few angles; They live on a small Island nation, panic would quickly get the rest of country in it's grip, and they may never be able to recover from that sort of near cataclysmic panic once it sets in. Secondly, their honor is at stake. Its the basis of their entire culture. We keep forgetting that apparently, and with that plant going full meltdown, their honor is at stake. They lie just to save face, even in the face of impending doom.

[rubicondecision]

The BBC is reporting via tweets

More on the power line being laid to the Fukushima Daiichi plant to help restore the reactor cooling systems: Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco) spokesman Naoki Tsunoda has said it is almost complete, and that engineers plan to test it "as soon as possible", according to the Associated Press. Reviving the electric-powered pumps might allow the engineers to finaly cool the overheated reactors and spent fuel storage ponds.

Let us all pray that this works, otherwise there may be no method of cooling the spent fuel rod pool.

[rubicondecision]

BBC Tweet
"A special police van equipped with a water cannon - normally used to disperse rioters - meanwhile arrived at the power station early on Thursday. Tepco plans to use the cannon to spray water onto reactor 4's spent fuel storage pond. The cannon is thought to be strong enough to allow engineers to remain a safe distance from the complex and limit their exposure to radiation."

They are throwing anything at the spent fuel rod pool. They also know they are most certainly getting a lethal dosage of radiation as they do so.

[rubicondecision]

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/market-surges-latest-deux-ex-machina-kyodo-warns-chain-reaction-could-restart
""The situation at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has become extremely unnerving. The Tokyo Electric Power Company has now admitted that the spent fuel rods could go critical - that is, a nuclear chain reaction could restart." This would be an absolute worst case disaster which would make Chernobyl look like a dress rehearsal."

[grapecrusher1]

American radiation touchdown?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72vSysMywIk

good link rubicondecision

[rubicondecision]

Latest BBC tweet
"Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency has said it is also concerned about the spent fuel storage pool inside the building housing reactor 3 at Fukushima Daiichi. The pools at both reactors 3 and 4 are reportedly boiling - there may not even be any water left in reactor 4's pool - and unless the spent fuel rods are cooled down, they could emit large quantities radiation. Radioactive steam was earlier said to be coming from reactor 3's pool. If cooling operations did not proceed well, the situation would "reach a critical stage in a couple of days", an agency official told the Kyodo news agency"

This concurs with the US Nuclear Agency's assessment. We may an enormous ramping up in the next couple of days. The only thing between complete nuclear meltdown is reestablishing electricity, and then only if the circulation system is still intact.

[rubicondecision]

American radiation touchdown?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72vSysMywIk

good link rubicondecision

dutchsinse is saying that a large magnitude radiation cloud has made landfall in Southern California and is traveling east. I have not seen enough evidence, and I don't see high radiation yet, but he says he saw it register high in Bakerfield, CA. Multiple confirmations, but it quickly dissipated as it traveled southeast. I am monitoring the two radiation websites, and if I see a high reading, I will post it in the next hour. Southern CA , NV AZ NM . dutchsinse said that he had confirmation of a 234 uR per hour, but it was a blip as the cloud passed over.

[Cywar]

A few minutes ago the blackcatsystems site showed 219 near Bakersfield.

[John_Back_From_The_Club_O]

Say John, I don't trust them either, but how would you personally develop a model? That data is all we have, unless you are volunteering to take some measurements.

Like I said before.  I would build several models based on 'degrees' of 'various levels' of radiation that COULD BE released.  From least to most.  Then, those would run with 'current' and 'projected' airstream patterns.

Now, with that said, what you have with these 'model makers' is they are taking what we used to call 'officialdom' and basing models off only that information.  There are NO OTHER DATA MODELS being done.  Only models off of 'official' data.  

This GE disaster has all the earmarks of the BP disaster in how information is being fed to the public and I sure as hell don't trust it.

[rubicondecision]

A few minutes ago the blackcatsystems site showed 219 near Bakersfield.

Can you help me monitor http://www.radiationnetwork.com/ and http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html ??

I am monitoring about 15 websites for intel.

[rubicondecision]

Denver just jumped to 76. 130 is an alarm level