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I say shit around here all the time, and reverse course if it turns out I'm wrong, or had a poor understanding of things, so why can't Alex? He's human, we all are, we can be right, or we can be wrong. Its not if you are right or wrong, it's in how you change course upon determining you chose the wrong path. There are ways to save face and be gracious, or there are ways to be band wagon jumpers. Alex isn't a bandwagon jumper.
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Good post dude. It's an exremely complicated world, and especially so when you're "awake". Being "awake" to the truth of the world sure doesn't make life any easier...
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THIS IS WHAT I FIND DISTURBING:
1. Taco Bell and Wendy's are both pushing Pacific shrimp and cod, respectively. McDonald's has their 2 for $3.33 fish sandwich, although I do not remember them specifically saying it was Pacific cod (or even real fish for that matter).
2. All of a sudden, it gets really warm out. It almost made it to 60 degrees here in Wisconsin yesterday. So what does everyone do? They go outside. Suck it up, people.
3. Last night, both my ears rang for over 11 minutes, until I fell asleep. And the ringing was so intense, I thought my eardrums would split in two. This would have been at 8:40 CDT p.m. Anyone else experience this also?
4. There was no mention of Japan in the front section of the paper this a.m. at ALL. The High School Basketball tournament was top news, and Libya was under the fold with a classic double-think byline: Military action OK'd to protect civilians
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Armageddon Scenario in Japan by Stephen Lendmanhttp://uruknet.com/?p=m75939&hd=&size=1&l=eMarch 17, 2011 Japan's deepening disaster affects everyone. Atmospheric radiation will spread globally, mostly affecting the northern hemisphere. Everyone to some extent will be affected, those in Japan and nearby the most. An unprecedented catastrophe is unfolding. You'd hardly know it from most major media reports, including US broadcast and cable channels, National Public Radio, Public Broadcasting, BBC, and Al Jazeera, failing to explain a deepening catastrophe placing millions of lives at risk. On March 16, however, Russia Today said Japan "may be losing control" at Fukushima after a rise in radiation suggests efforts to contain the disaster aren't working. Nuclear engineer Arnie Gunderson told the Washington Post that evacuating most workers "is a sign to me that they have given up trying to prevent a disaster and gone into the mode of trying to clean up afterward." Unit 1 exploded on March 12, Unit 3 on March 14. On March 15, other blasts rocked Units 2 and 4. Fires broke out, the latest at Unit 4. Reports say it's contained. Unexplained is whether thousands of fuel rods are melting. All six plant reactors broke down. Four so far experienced explosions. Others could happen any time. Four are in serious trouble. All face potential full meltdowns, perhaps ongoing at one or more reactors, but government and media reports won't say. On March 16, Al Jazeera said Fukushima operations were suspended because of dangerously high radiation levels. Other reports suggested partial resumption. Workers brave enough to do so face death. Hundreds of thousands of Chernobyl "liquidators" experienced major illnesses or died. On March 15, New York Times writers Keith Bradsher and Hiroko Tabuchi headlined, "Last Defense at Troubled Reactors: 50 Japanese Workers," saying: Facing near sure death from radiation poisoning, they "perhaps (represent) Japan's last chance of preventing a broader nuclear catastrophe," that, in fact, likely is ongoing but unreported. The "faceless 50....volunteered (or were) assigned to pump seawater on dangerously exposed nuclear fuel," already in partial or full meltdown in what may be a futile effort to prevent disaster. Around 750 others were evacuated because of dangerously high radiation levels. "The few details Tokyo Electric (revealed) paint a dire picture," including five worker deaths, 22 others injured (perhaps seriously irradiated), two missing, and another hospitalized for reasons unexplained. On March 16, Times writers Hiroko Tabuchi and Keith Bradsher headlined, "Japan Says 2nd Reactor May Have Ruptured With Radioactive Release," saying: On Wednesday, "Japan's nuclear crisis intensified dramatically" after Unit 3 reactor ruptured and began releasing radioactive steam. Because of high levels, a plan to dump water from helicopters was abandoned. However, racing against time, Tokyo Electric (TEPCO) doubled the "faceless 50" to 100, rotated in and out in short shifts because of extreme radiation levels. The ruptured reactor was "seen as the last fully intact line of defense against large-scale releases of radioactive material," but how serious conditions are remains unclear. However, Units 3 and 4 fuel rod pool overheating appears dire, and cooling and other containment efforts so far haven't worked. Reactors have three layers of protection - the outer building, the containment vessel, and metal cladding around fuel rods inside the reactor. "The government said those rods at the No. 3 reactor were likely already damaged." Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) said 70% of Unit 1's rods are damaged, adding how badly isn't known or whether they're melting. Most likely, one or more reactors are dangerously breached, releasing radiation, and perhaps in full meltdown. No one knows for sure or isn't saying. Most likely, a major unreported disaster is unfolding, downplayed in official reports. On March 16, Times writers David Sanger, Matthew Wald and Hiroko Tabuchi headlined, "US Calls Radiation 'Extremely High;' Sees Japan Nuclear Crisis Worsening," saying: In congressional testimony, NRC chairman Gregory Jaczko "gave a far bleaker appraisal on Wednesday of the threat posed by Japan's nuclear crisis than the Japanese government had offered." Saying little or no water remains in the spent nuclear fuel storage area means exposed rods are melting, spewing toxic atmospheric radiation. Later in the day, Jaczko said NRC representatives in Tokyo "confirmed that the pool at No. 4 was empty." As a result, massive amounts of atmospheric radiation are spreading. It creates a potential armageddon scenario, proving either nuclear power in all forms end or planetary life faces potential extinction. On March 15, Reuters headlined, "Russia says Japan may face meltdown at six reactors," saying: "Russia's nuclear chief (Sergei Kiriyenko) warned on Tuesday that all six reactors" are threatened. He told Prime Minister Putin: "All six can pose a threat unfortunately. But even if (all) melt down, (this) will still not lead to a nuclear explosion," a conclusion based on hope, not reality, after four earlier explosions. Others could happen any time. Kiriyenko said irradiated gas is escaping. Moreover, coolant water may contaminate the water table. It very likely already has. The same day Reuters headlined, "Fire at Japan nuclear reactor heightens radiation threat," saying: "Japan raced to avert a (greater) catastrophe after (a Unit 4) fire broke out on Wednesday" sending low radiation toward Tokyo, "prompting some people to flee the capital and triggering growing international alarm at the escalating crisis." Across Japan, radiation levels are skyrocketing. Official reports downplay them. Russia Today said a town north of Toyko has levels 300 times above normal. In Tokyo, it's 11 - 20 times higher in different parts of the city and rising. The entire country is unsafe. Millions of lives are threatened besides many more across the Pacific rim and beyond. Chinese University toxicologist Lee Tin-lap warned of potential long-term effects, saying: "You are (inhaling radiation) into your lungs, and there is passive absorption in the skin, eyes and mouth...." Radiation in any amount is cumulative, harmful, and forever. Most Japanese believe nothing from government and TEPCO sources. Fukushima prefecture Governor Yukei Sato told Prime Minister Naoto Kan that "residents are angry and about to reach the breaking point." Others throughout the country accuse officials of stonewalling. They know an industry/government cabal has a long record of coverup and denial, reinforced by bogus or unreliable media reports. For years, in fact, government officials, including from Japan's Atomic Energy Agency covered up or downplayed past accidents, their costs, and effects on human health. TEPCO notably is tainted, exposed for having concealed or downplayed past accidents, falsifying safety records 200 or more times, and forced to admit that another of its plants wasn't designed to withstand a far lower magnitude quake than 9.0. Moreover, at Fukushima, thousands of stored spent fuel rods pose special risks. They're kept in large pools of water without protective casing. High temperatures may have caused evaporation, making them vulnerable to overheating and combustion, perhaps within days, spreading vast amounts of radiation. David Lochbaum of the Union of Concerned Scientists' called it "worse than a meltdown," perhaps the next shoe to drop. Greenpeace nuclear expert Jim Riccio said: "The spent fuel pool in unit 4 is boiling, and once that starts you can't stop it. The threat is that if you boil off the water, the metal cladding on the fuel rods that is exposed to the air, and is volatile, will catch fire. That will propel the radiation even further." In 2005, A National Academy of Sciences report warned of the danger, saying spent fuel rods put America and other nations at risk from widespread radiation contamination in case of an accident or terrorist attack. The report urged immediate action to secure the pools. Earlier in the 1990s, nuclear experts like David Lochbaum warned of spent fuel handling in US plants using Fukushima's design. As a result, they recommended storing it in dry casks away from reactor sites as a precaution. Time magazine made it a March 4, 1996 cover story titled, "Blowing the Whistle on Nuclear Safety: How a showdown at a power plant exposed the federal government's failure to enforce its own rules" to no avail. Leaving the design error uncorrected threatens serious greater harm to Japan, the Pacific rim and beyond. Overall, TEPCO notoriously sacrificed public safety for profits, notably at Fukushima. All six reactors are substandard. Further, since the early 1970s, nuclear safety experts condemned the General Electric-designed Mark 1 containment vessels for posing unacceptable risks, according to a New York Times report. Nonetheless, they're still used in two dozen Japanese reactors, including at Fukushima. Twenty-three US nuclear plants at 16 locations also use the same design, despite the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) calling it susceptible to explosion and containment failure because of cost-cutting design savings. In 1972, Dr. Stephen Hanuaer, an Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) safety official, NRC's precursor, recommended Mark 1's pressure suppression system be discontinued and prohibited. He warned if its cooling system failed, overheating fuel rods would cause the reactor to burst. As a result, three GE nuclear engineers publicly resigned, citing dangerous design shortcomings. In addition, a 1985 NRC report concluded that Mark 1 failure within the first few hours after a core meltdown was very likely. In 1986, NRC's top safety official, Harold Denton, told an industry trade group that Mark 1 containment had a 90% probability of failing if an accident caused overheating and melting. When reactor cooling is compromised, the containment vessel is the last line of defense. GE officials called it's design was safe, saying it's "the industry's workhorse with a proven track record of safety and reliability for more than 40 years." Despite modifications of the original 1960s design, they lied. Currently, 32 Mark 1 units operate globally. All are unsafe as Fukushima showed. Chernobyl in 1986 killed nearly one million people and counting. Wide areas are affected by permanent contamination. Clean-up workers still risk radiation poisoning. Earlier ones suffered dreadful illnesses or died, mostly from painful cancers. In contaminated areas, the continuing effects include: -- a 100-fold increase in aggressive thyroid tumors; -- a 50-fold increase in leukemia, bone, brain, and other tumors; -- a 30% increase in "malformations" caused genetic mutations and other pathologies affecting cardio-vascular function, skeleton, muscular systems and connective tissues, as well as nervous system diseases and psychic disorders; and -- a 20% increase in premature births, besides an unknown number of spontaneous abortions, miscarriages, and still-born births. Moreover, radiation contamination remains hazardous for thousands of years. So will contaminated Japan. A Final Comment On March 11, nuclear expert Harvey Wasserman headlined, "Japan's Quake Could Have Irradiated the Entire US," saying: A similar disaster could send "a lethal cloud of radiation across the entire United States." Located in dangerous seismically active areas, "two huge reactors each at (California's) San Onofre and Diablo Canyon are not designed to withstand such powerful shocks." They're also close to the coast, "vulnerable to tsunamis like" others affected by Japan's quake. Located between San Diego and Los Angeles, "(a) radioactive cloud spewing from one or both (San Onofre) reactors" would be catastrophic to southern and central California alone. Avila Beach-based Diablo Canyon is located west of San Luis Obispo, between Los Angeles and San Francisco. "A radioactive eruption there would pour into central California and, depending on the winds, up to the Bay Area or southeast of Santa Barbara and then to Los Angeles." Minimally, it would "permanently destroy much of the region...." The 1986 Chernobyl fallout "blanketed all of Europe within a matter of days," covering an area far larger than America. Jet stream winds carried it to California 10 days later. It then spread "across the northern tier of the United States." Besides San Onofre and Diablo Canyon, "(n)umerous other American reactors sit on or near earthquake faults." Nonetheless, Obama's proposed $36 billion in nuclear industry loan guarantees (free money) instead closing down, decommissioning, and dismantling all existing plants because they're too dangerous to operate. A previous article called them ticking time bombs. As a result, future Chernobyls and Fukushima's are inevitable. They're potentially destructive enough to kill millions, permanently contaminating wide areas, and under a worst case scenario, the entire planet with enough lethal radiation to destroy life. Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net. Also visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com and listen to cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on the Progressive Radio News Hour on the Progressive Radio Network Thursdays at 10AM US Central time and Saturdays and Sundays at noon. All programs are archived for easy listening.http://uruknet.com/?p=m75939&hd=&size=1&l=e
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Japan that has not managed to recover after the first blow of natural disasters ( earthquakes and tsunamis) is risking to be overtaken by a new misery resulting from these disasters. Japanese Seismic Service has reported of a threat of its symbol, Fujiyama volcanos eruption. The reasons for these assessments are recent 5-6 magnitude earthquakes on the volcano. The last time the volcano erupted was in 1707 when a new crater appeared on it and Tokyo streets ( named do at the time) were covered with 15 sm ash. Eruption of the national symbol will completely " smash" Japan which has just 2 days to stave off nuclear explosion at APS Fukushima affected by tsunami. So far Japanese Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) has increased the danger degree at wrecking Automatic power station Fukushima -1 till the 5th level out of 7 possible ones. International Atomic Energy Agency(IAEA) already considers wreckage at Japanese APS Fukushima-Daiichi the most serious one since Chernobyl catastrophe of 1986. Japanese government has already asked the USA for technical assistance to push aside wreckage on APS built under General Electric technology. At present it has been officially affirmed that another 6.200 people have become victims of Japanese earthquake on 11 March. Nearly 10.200 people are considered missing. http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert_read.php?edis=VA-20110318-29984-JPN
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« Reply #567 on: March 18, 2011, 09:28:24 AM » |
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Yesterday, I woke up to video's of Chinook helicopters dropping water on reactor cores after attempts to spray the cores with water trucks failed, as if this was some sort of fire that can simply be exstinguished. I would have laughed at the rediculously feeble attempts if it were not so tragic of an event. Obviously, nothing more than attempts to make the public believe that actions are being taken to prevent a worsening of this event, while they buy time to decide on a course of action. A staged effort for local and international media, to allow them to create whatever story they want to calm the public into believing everything is or will be okay.
Today, the Jap Nuc Agency is saying it is a level 5 incident, which is the equivelent of the TMI incident. TMI had a relief valve open, then stick open, venting radioative primary cooling water in the form of steam that contained tiny amounts of radioactive cobalt 60. In Japan, spent fuel rods are laying on the beach, 3 or 4 cores have been on fire at one point in time or another, the cores of several reactors have been exposed for hours at a time, and most of those cores are breeched well beyond any ability to simply turn on cooling pumps and pump water through them to cool them using traditional cooling methods. There have been radioactive isotopes of cesium, strontium, and iodine detected. Seawater being used to cool the cores. Even those people and aircraft being evacuated have tested positive for radiation elements, while reports are coming in of people in Japan experiencing radiation sicknesses. Already, this incident has demonstarted that it is FAR WORSE than Chernobyl, and going to get MUCH WORSE, yet 7 days after THEY KNEW it was going to get this bad and much worse, they are now saying it is as bad as TMI.
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or it could all be BS. but the Middle East thing, Israel's part in all this, seems to point toward the Old Book. =(
its a script. and all this is the unrated uncut special edition version of it.
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« Reply #569 on: March 18, 2011, 12:23:30 PM » |
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How soon you think before they start telling us the benefits to school behavior in children from "low level" radiation clouds?
Not exactly about school behavior, but I think the new a little radiation is good for you meme is close enough... "A Glowing Report on Radiation" March 16, 2011 ©2011 FOX News Network, LLC. http://nation.foxnews.com/ann-coulter/2011/03/16/glowing-report-radiationMarch 11 to March 16th that's 5 days.
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« Reply #570 on: March 18, 2011, 06:48:34 PM » |
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I think the Russians eventually dumped tons of concrete over the whole mess.
Heck, I ain't too bad a prophet, myself... Wonder if he reads the forum. "Is it time for the Chernobyl option?" By Alan Boyle Last updated 12:30 p.m. ET March 18 © 2011 msnbc.com ""I would personally advocate the Chernobyl option," Kaku said. "Do what Gorbachev did in 1986. Call out the Japanese air force, get the Japanese army to bring a fleet of helicopters armed with sand, boric acid and concrete and entomb this entire reactor. Bury it in concrete." http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/03/17/6290171-is-it-time-for-the-chernobyl-option
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« Reply #571 on: March 19, 2011, 12:15:09 AM » |
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written before Iraq war: To 'employ strategic nuclear forces coercively' and strengthen 'national security'
In October 2001, when asked whether the use of tactical nuclear weapons against the caves where the Taliban were sheltering, suggested by Congressman Steve Buyer, was ruled out, Rumsfeld said, 'I don't rule out anything, but my answer very simply is, we are not having a problem in dealing with those tunnels in terms of the ordinance.' 83 This marked the major shift that was taking place in US policy from regarding nuclear weapons as a deterrent to nuclear attack by another state, hopefully never to be used, to treating them as one of a range of alternatives to be considered for battlefield use.
Rumsfeld had for some time been a supporter of the Center for Security Policy, which strongly advocated investing in the development of a National Missile Defense (NMD) system (widely known as 'Star Wars'), when he was appointed by Congress to chair a Commission to Assess the Ballistic Missile Threat to the United States. By applying a worst case scenario, for instance the transfer of a complete ballistic missile to a nation such as North Korea by China, he reached the conclusion in 1998 that such an attack could happen in the next few years, a possibility previously ruled out by US intelligence. 84 NMD is part of a 'New Triad' to the development of which the Pentagon is now committed - offensive strike weapons (nuclear and non-nuclear), strategic defenses and a revitalised defence infrastructure. Billions of dollars are being spent on the research, production and infrastructure involved.
The Center for Security Policy was set up in 1988, and received funding from wealthy rightwingers such as the Coors family and Richard M Scaife as well as corporate donors such as Boeing, General Atomics, General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and other weapons contractors. The election of George W Bush meant that the policies it had advocated now had a substantial chance of being put into practice. Over twenty of its close associates or advisory council members now held government positions, including Feith; JD Crouch, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Security Policy; Robert Joseph, Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs for Proliferation Strategy, Counter-Proliferation and Homeland Defense; Perle; Roche; and Zakheim. Several members of the Center's advisory council or board of directors were also on the board of directors of the National Institute of Public Policy. Its Chief Executive Officer, Keith Payne, had in 1980 co-authored with Colin S Gray an article entitled 'Victory is Possible', which urged the US military to make plans for fighting and winning a nuclear war: 'The West needs to devise ways in which it can employ strategic nuclear forces coercively , while minimizing the potentially paralyzing impact of self-deterrence.' In January 2001, the National Institute for Public Policy published a report, Rationale and Requirements for US Nuclear Forces and Arms Control, prepared by a study group including Stephen Cambone, now a special assistant to Rumsfeld; Stephen Hadley, Deputy National Security Adviser, and Joseph. Several members, in government after Bush came to power, were involved in conducting a Nuclear Posture Review. 85
Its secret report, presented to Congress in January 2002, said that the Pentagon should be prepared to use nuclear weapons against China, Russia, Iraq, North Korea, Iran, Libya and Syria; . Such weapons could be used in three types of situations: against targets able to sustain non-nuclear attack; in retaliation for attack with nuclear, biological or chemical weapons; or 'in the event of surprising military developments'. War between Arab nations and Israel or between China and Taiwan were among the scenarios where the USA should be prepared to launch a nuclear attack. While conventional nuclear weapons caused destruction on such a large scale that they were 'self-deterring', potential enemies of the USA would be more likely to believe that smaller, tactical nuclear weapons could be used against them 86 (sometimes known as 'mini-nukes'). The revelation in 2002 that the anthrax sent through the post was identical in its DNA sequence to a strain found at the Fort Detrick US military laboratory 87 caused some embarrassment and cast a spotlight on the government's biological weapons programme. It has been suggested that a rogue scientist who had worked for the US government or one of its contractors took some of the deadly bacteria and used it to mount a campaign of terror.
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Worse Than Chenobyl.When the Fukushima Meltdown Hits GroundwaterBy Dr. Tom Burnett http://hawaiinewsdaily.com/2011/03/when-the-fukushima-meltdown-hits-groundwater/March 29, 2011 "Hawai'i News-" -- March 27, 2011 -- Fukushima is going to dwarf Chenobyl. The Japanese government has had a level 7 nuclear disaster going for almost a week but won’t admit it. The disaster is occurring the opposite way than Chernobyl, which exploded and stopped the reaction. At Fukushima, the reactions are getting worse. I suspect three nuclear piles are in meltdown and we will probably get some of it. If reactor 3 is in meltdown, the concrete under the containment looks like lava. But Fukushima is not far off the water table. When that molten mass of self-sustaining nuclear material gets to the water table it won’t simply cool down. It will explode – not a nuclear explosion, but probably enough to involve the rest of the reactors and fuel rods at the facility. Pouring concrete on a critical reactor makes no sense – it will simply explode and release more radioactive particulate matter. The concrete will melt and the problem will get worse. Chernobyl was different – a critical reactor exploded and stopped the reaction. At Fukushima, the reactor cores are still melting down. The ONLY way to stop that is to detonate a ~10 kiloton fission device inside each reactor containment vessel and hope to vaporize the cores. That’s probably a bad solution. A nuclear meltdown is a self-sustaining reaction. Nothing can stop it except stopping the reaction. And that would require a nuclear weapon. In fact, it would require one in each containment vessel to merely stop what is going on now. But it will be messy. Fukushima was waiting to happen because of the placement of the emergency generators. If they had not all failed at once by being inundated by a tsunami, Fukushima would not have happened as it did – although it WOULD still have been a nuclear disaster. Every containment in the world is built to withstand a Magnitude 6.9 earthquake; the Japanese chose to ignore the fact that a similar earthquake had hit that same general area in 1896. Anyway, here is the information that the US doesn’t seem to want released. And here is a chart that might help with perspective. Making matters worse is the MOX in reactor 3. MOX is the street name for ‘mixed oxide fuel‘ which uses ~9% plutonium along with a uranium compound to fuel reactors. This is why it can be used. The problem is that you don’t want to play with this stuff. A nuclear reactor means bring fissile material to a point at which it is hot enough to boil water (in a light-water reactor) and not enough to melt and go supercritical (China syndrome or a Chernobyl incident). You simply cannot let it get away from you because if it does, you can’t stop it. The Japanese are still talking about days or weeks to clean this up. That’s not true. They cannot clean it up. And no one will live in that area again for dozens or maybe hundreds of years. VISIT PAGE FOR LINKS http://hawaiinewsdaily.com/2011/03/when-the-fukushima-meltdown-hits-groundwater/
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Sorry for reposting here, this seems to be the appropriate thread. No reasons to freak out, right? French CESIUM-137 radioactive fallout model --- MARCH 30, 2011http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jep-Gxhn7ZcCaesium-137 is a radioactive isotope of caesium which is formed as a fission product by nuclear fission. It has a half-life of about 30.17 years, and decays by beta emission to a metastable nuclear isomer of barium-137: barium-137m. Caesium-137 is water-soluble, and the biological behavior of caesium is similar to that of potassium and rubidium. After entering the body, caesium gets more or less uniformly distributed throughout the body, with higher concentration in muscle tissues and lower in bones. The biological half-life of caesium is rather short at about 70 days. Experiments with dogs showed that a single dose of 3800 μCi/kg (approx. 44 μg/kg of caesium-137) is lethal within three weeks.Accidental ingestion of caesium-137 can be treated with Prussian blue, which binds to it chemically and then speeds its expulsion from the body. __________ Another new forecast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKdsjyUB_dI
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Heck, I ain't too bad a prophet, myself... Wonder if he reads the forum. "Is it time for the Chernobyl option?" By Alan Boyle Last updated 12:30 p.m. ET March 18 © 2011 msnbc.com ""I would personally advocate the Chernobyl option," Kaku said. "Do what Gorbachev did in 1986. Call out the Japanese air force, get the Japanese army to bring a fleet of helicopters armed with sand, boric acid and concrete and entomb this entire reactor. Bury it in concrete." http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/03/17/6290171-is-it-time-for-the-chernobyl-optionNo deal this will have to end up like building the Panama canal and the Great Pyramid in a month
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« Reply #577 on: April 01, 2011, 04:22:29 AM » |
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God only knows how bad this really is, seeing how "they" tend to not tell the whole story as we know.
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'No safe levels' of radiation in Japanby Dahr Jamail Experts warn that any detectable level of radiation is "too much".April 4, 2011 http://uruknet.com/?p=m76533&hd=&size=1&l=eIn a nuclear crisis that is becoming increasingly serious, Japan’s Nuclear Safety Agency confirmed that radioactive iodine-131 in seawater samples taken near the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power complex that was seriously damaged by the recent tsunami off the coast of Japan is 4,385 times the level permitted by law. Airborne radiation near the plant has been measured at 4-times government limits. Tokyo Electric Power Company, the company that operates the crippled plant, has begun releasing more than 11,000 tons of radioactive water that was used to cool the fuel rods into the ocean while it attempts to find the source of radioactive leaks. The water being released is about 100 times more radioactive than legal limits. Meanwhile, water that is vastly more radioactive continues to gush into the ocean through a large crack in a six-foot deep pit at the nuclear plant. Over the weekend, workers at the plant used sawdust, shredded newspaper and diaper chemicals in a desperate attempt to plug the area, which failed. Water leaking from the pit is about 10,000 times more radioactive than water normally found at a nuclear plant Thus, radiation from a meltdown in the reactor core of reactor No. 2 is leaking out into the water and soil, with other reactors continuing to experience problems. Yet scientists and activists question these government and nuclear industry "safe" limits of radiation exposure. "The U.S. Department of Energy has testified that there is no level of radiation that is so low that it is without health risks," Jacqueline Cabasso, the Executive Director of the Western States Legal Foundation, told Al Jazeera. Her foundation monitors and analyzes U.S. nuclear weapons programs and policies and related high technology energy, with a focus on the national nuclear weapons laboratories. Cabasso explained that natural background radiation exists, "But more than 2,000 nuclear tests have enhanced this background radiation level, so we are already living in an artificially radiated environment due to all the nuclear tests." "Karl Morgan, who worked on the Manhattan project, later came out against the nuclear industry when he understood the danger of low levels of ionizing radiation-and he said there is no safe dose of radiation exposure," Cabasso continued, "That means all this talk about what a worker or the public can withstand on a yearly basis is bogus. There is no safe level of radiation exposure. These so-called safe levels are coming from within the nuclear establishment." Risk at low doses Karl Morgan was an American physicist who was a founder of the field of radiation health physics. After a long career in the Manhattan Project and at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory, he became a critic of nuclear power and weapons. Morgan, who died in 1999, began to offer court testimony for people who said they had been harmed by the nuclear power industry. "Nobody is talking about the fact that there is no safe dose of radiation," Cabasso added, "One of the reasons Morgan said this is because doses are cumulative in the body." The National Academy of Sciences (NAS) published a report in 2006 titled Biological Effects of Ionizing Radiation (BEIR) report, VII Phase 2. NAS BEIR VII was an expert panel who reviewed available peer reviewed literature and wrote, "the committee concludes that the preponderance of information indicates that there will be some risk, even at low doses." The concluding statement of the report reads, "The committee concludes that the current scientific evidence is consistent with the hypothesis that there is a linear, no-threshold dose-response relationship between exposure to ionizing radiation and the development of cancer in humans." This means that the sum of several very small exposures to radiation has the same effect as one large exposure, since the effects of radiation are cumulative. For weeks engineers from Tokyo Electric Power (Tepco) have been working to restore power to the plant and have resorted to having seawater sprayed on radioactive fuel rods that have been at risk of meltdown. Despite this, Japanese officials conceded to the public on March 31 that the battle to save four crippled nuclear reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant has been lost. On March 29 a US engineer who helped install the reactors at the plant said he believed the radioactive core in unit No. 2 may have melted through the bottom of its containment vessel and on to a concrete floor. Tepco’s chairman, Tsunehisa Katsumata, said they had "no choice" but to scrap the No’s 1-4 reactors, but held out hope that the remaining two could continue to operate, despite the fact that he admitted the nuclear disaster could last several months. It is the first time the company has admitted that at least part of the plant will have to be decommissioned. But the government’s chief spokesman, Yukio Edano, repeated an earlier call for all six reactors at the 40-year-old plant to be decommissioned. "It is very clear looking at the social circumstances," he said. Even after a cold shutdown, scrapping the plant will likely take decades, and the site will become a no-man’s land. Tonnes of nuclear waste sit at the site of the nuclear reactors, and enclosing the reactors by injecting lead and encasing them in concrete would make it safe to work and live a few kilometres away from the site, but is not a long-term solution for the disposal of spent fuel, which will decay and emit fission fragments over tens of thousands of years. Near the plant, the radiation levels dangerously escalated to 400 milliseiverts/hour. Considering background radiation is on the order of 1 milliseivert per year, this means a yearly background dose every 9 seconds, based on industry and governmental "allowable" radiation exposure limits. That compares with a national "safety standard" in the U.S. of 250 millisieverts over a year. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency says a single dose of 1,000 millisieverts is enough to cause internal hemorrhaging. Meanwhile, more than 168 citizens organizations in Japan submitted a petition to their government on March 28 calling for an expanded evacuation zone near the Fukushima nuclear disaster site. The groups are also calling for other urgent measures to protect the public health and safety. Residents of evacuated areas near the stricken Fukushima nuclear plant have been warned that they may not be able to return to their homes for months as Japan’s nuclear crisis stretched into a third week. The neighbourhoods near the plant will remain empty "for the long term", Yukio Edano, the country’s chief cabinet secretary, said on April 1. Though he did not set a timetable, he said residents would not be able to return permanently "in a matter of days or weeks. It will be longer than that". The official evacuation zone remains only 20 kilometres, while the government has encouraged people within 30 kilometres to evacuate. Yet levels of cesium-137 in the village of Iitate, for example, have been measured at more than twice the levels that prompted the Soviet Union to evacuate people near Chernobyl. Iitate is 40 kilometres northwest of Fukushima. Radioactive Iodine has already been found in the tap water in all of Tokyo’s 23 wards. The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission had already recommended an 80-kilometre evacuation zone for U.S. citizens in Japan. Fukushima as Chernobyl This month marks the 25th anniversary of the Chernobyl nuclear disaster. "There are still no-go areas there, and the workers town has long since been abandoned, and we are seeing radioactive refugees from there, like we are now seeing generated in Japan," Dr Kathleen Sullivan, a disarmament educator and activist who has been engaged in the nuclear issue for over 20 years told Al Jazeera, "Tepco is trying to cover their rear-end, and the Japanese government is being cagey about it, and I believe people don’t understand that radiation is a major problem and issue." Dr Sullivan, cited Albert Einstein, who said, "The splitting of the atom changed everything, save man’s mode of thinking; thus we drift towards unparalleled catastrophe." "So we don’t understand this mistake because of the timeless invisible nature of the problem that radiation is," Sullivan, who has been an education consultant to the UN Office for Disarmament Affairs, added. Some experts have warned of a nightmare scenario where clouds of radioactive material could spread lethal toxins across the planet for months on end if the spent fuel rods catch fire due to lack of coolant. The Central Institute for Meteorology and Geodynamics of Vienna told New Scientist on March 24: "Japan’s damaged nuclear plant in Fukushima has been emitting radioactive iodine and caesium at levels approaching those seen in the aftermath of the Chernobyl accident in 1986. Austrian researchers have used a worldwide network of radiation detectors – designed to spot clandestine nuclear bomb tests – to show that iodine-131 is being released at daily levels 73 per cent of those seen after the 1986 disaster. The daily amount of caesium-137 released from Fukushima Daiichi is around 60 per cent of the amount released from Chernobyl." The same group of scientists stated, "The Fukushima plant has around 1760 tonnes of fresh and used nuclear fuel on site," while, "the Chernobyl reactor had only 180 tonnes." According to a report from the New York Academy of Sciences, due to the Chernobyl disaster, 985,000 people have died, mainly from cancer, between 1986-2004. Monitors have detected tiny radioactive particles which have spread from the reactor site across the Pacific to North America, the Atlantic and even Europe. Andrea Stahl, a senior scientist at the Norwegian Institute for Air Research, told Reuters, "It’s only a matter of days before it disperses in the entire northern hemisphere." Tens of thousands of people living near the plant have been evacuated or ordered to stay indoors, while radioactive materials have leaked into the sea, soil and air. Last week also marked the 32nd anniversary of the Three Mile Island nuclear disaster in Middletown, Pennsylvania, in the United States. 250,000 years of radiation Sullivan explained that when dealing with long-lived radioactive materials, in addition to carcinogens there are inter-generational effects that include the mutation of the genetic structure of life. "This is permanent and irreversible," she added. Sullivan uses Fukushima reactor No. 3 as an example, because it is fueled with Mox fuel uranium and plutonium. Plutonium has a half-life of 24,000 years, which means it is carcinogenic and mutagenic for up to 250,000 years, or 12,000 human generations. A radioactive half-life means that in this case, in 24,000 years, half of the ionizing radiation will have decayed, then in another 24,000 years half of that radiation will decay, etc. "That’s not really understandable or explainable in a conventional sense of knowing," Sullivan said, "We have to apply our moral imagination to 12,000 generations to even begin to understand what we are doing in this moment." :: Article nr. 76533 sent on 05-apr-2011 01:56 ECT www.uruknet.info?p=76533 Link: english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/04/20114219250664111.html
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Increasing Fukushima Radiation Dangersby Stephen LendmanApril 6, 2011 http://uruknet.com/?p=m76601&hd=&size=1&l=eDaily reports on efforts to contain Fukushima's disaster remain worrisome. On April 5, New York Times writers Andrew Pollack and Kevin Drew headlined, "Plant Operator Measures Higher Radiation in Sea," saying: "(C)ompany officials said that seawater collected near the facility contained radiation several million times the legal limit." According to Tokyo Electric (TEPCO), radioactive iodine-131 in samples collected measured 200,000 becquerels per cubic centimeter, or five million times above normal. Cesium-137's elevated level was 1.1 million times. No information on uranium and plutonium concentrations were given. Clearly, however, growing dangers are worrisome, yet official reports downplay them. Coverup and denial persist. According to TEPCO, radiation levels have "no immediate impact" on the environment or human health. In fact, it's catastrophic. More on that below. Moreover, thousands of tons of radioactive water are being dumped into the Pacific, likely to continue daily to make room for more runoff despite the great risk to sea life and humans. No amount of radiation is safe. Even dispersed in water, it poses grave dangers, and the more dumped, the greater the hazard. Official reports, however, claim radiation dissipates quickly in the Pacific. They also say long-term effects of seawater radiation contamination are unclear, especially if dumping continues daily. In fact, they're very clear, posing serious future health risks, being downplayed by so-called experts, perhaps well-paid for their comments. The Times added: "The pumping effort is not expected to halt or alter a leak from a large crack in a six-foot-deep concrete pit next to the seawater intake pipes near" Unit 2. "The leak has been spewing an estimated seven tons of highly radioactive water an hour directly into the ocean." In addition, other leaks "have flooded areas of the plant, complicating" efforts to contain the disaster. According to a Kyodo report, 60,000 tons of radioactive water are flooding the basement of Fukushima's reactor buildings and underground tunnels. So far, nothing done has stopped it. On April 4, Washington Post writer Andrew Higgins headlined, "Peace of Mind, livelihood gone as Japanese city withers in shadow of nuclear plant," saying: "The danger may or may not be grave, but one thing is certain: Confusing and often contradictory announcements by jittery officials in Tokyo and shifty obfuscation by (TEPCO) executives have already stripped (residents) of their livelihood, their peace of mind, and the fruits of decades of labor." As radiation levels spread, however, Northern Japan (one-third of the country) is threatened, and if containment efforts fail, all bets are off. EPA to Raise "Safe" Radiation Levels On April 5, Natural News writer Mike Adams headlined, "EPA to raise limits for radiation exposure while Canada turns off fallout detectors," saying: Planetary radiation contamination is increasing, exacerbated by dumping thousands of tons of radioactive water into the Pacific. On April 4, "2.4 million gallons of planetary poison" went in, calling it harmless. Potentially, it may continue for years, "making Fukushima the worst nuclear disaster in the history of the world." In fact, it's that and more. America's Gulf was contaminated and destroyed by last April's disaster, making nothing in it safe to eat. Potentially, Fukushima may match it in the Pacific if no containment efforts work. "So what to do," asked Adams. "If you're the (EPA)," one option remains: "Declare radiation to be safe!" As a result, its Protective Action Guides (PAGs) are being revised "to radically increase the allowable levels of iodine-131 (a radioactive isotope) to anywhere from 3,000 to 100,000 times the currently allowable levels." In fact, Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) learned of it through a FOIA request. Its April 5 press release headlined, "RADIATION EXPOSURE DEBATE RAGES INSIDE EPA," saying: Its plan awaiting approval will "dramatically increase permissible radioactive releases in drinking water, food and soil after 'radiological incidents' is drawing vigorous objections from agency experts...." EPA's Office of Radiation and Indoor Air (ORIA) plans to update its 1992 PAG, "governing radiation protection decisions for both short (and) long-term cleanup standards." However, agency experts object, including Stuart Walker of the Office of Superfund Remediation and Technology Innovation, saying: "It appears that drinking water at the PAG concentrations....may lead to subchronic (acute) effects following exposures of a day or a week. In a population, one should see some express acute effects....that is, vomiting, fever, etc." Moreover, proposed limits would also apply to food and soil, so when Fukushima rains hit US cities, announcements, if made, will claim they're "below accepted limits." In fact, though standards and data can be manipulated, human health effects cannot. If Obama's EPA gets away with it, millions of lives will be at risk. Currently, debate continues behind closed doors. PEER wants everything discussed made public. Internal documents it obtained showed a single glass of water "could give a lifetime's permissible exposure. In addition, it would allow long-term cleanup limits thousands of times more lax than anything EPA has ever before accepted. These new limits would cause a cancer in as much as every fourth person exposed," a likely conservative estimate. Contaminating Planet Earth One of Project Censored's (PC) top 2007 stories was Mother Jones writer Julia Whitty's article titled, "Oceans of the World in Extreme Danger," saying: "Oceanic problems once found on a local scale are now pandemic." Evidence shows "seas are changing in ominous ways....According to oceanographers, the oceans are one, with currents linking the seas and regulating climate." Yet, thousands of contaminants are "poison(ing) marine creatures and devastat(ing) propagation." Before last April's BP/Deepwater Horizon disaster, America's Gulf had "the highest mercury levels ever recorded...." It also had a dead zone measuring nearly 8,000 square miles in 2001. Moreover, since 2000, "the global wild fish harvest has begun a sharp decline despite (new) technologies and intensified fishing." (If) the maelstrom of human assault on the seas continues, (they'll soon) reach a point of no return." Fukushima accelerated the process, besides lots of other contributors daily because governments powerful enough to stop it let it to continue unabated. Rosalie Bertell (now in her 80s) is a longtime distinguished environmental/nuclear expert. Two of her important books include "No Immediate Danger: Prognosis for a Radioactive Earth" (1985) and "Planet Earth: The Latest Weapon of War (2000)." In "Planet Earth," she discussed how the space program and electromagnetic weapons destabilized the ecosystem, causing widespread environmental, economic and social devastation. In "No Immediate Danger," she exposed the dangers of radiation, saying: "Should the public discover the true health cost(s) of nuclear pollution, a cry would rise from all parts of the world and people would refuse to cooperate passively with their own death." "On a clear day, the Earth looks wonderful," she said, so it's "hard to believe the warnings that we have seriously compromised its health," en route to destroying it entirely. The dangers from unbridled militarism alone are doing it, compounded by the madness of sacrificing environmental safety for profit. In 1991, her article titled, "Radioactivity: No Immediate Danger?" coined a new word to describe the ultimate human rejection of life - "omnicide," what she called "difficult to comprehend," but it's happening. Nuclear industries are killing us by ionizing radiation exposure - cumulative, unforgiving amounts over time. On the one hand are risks to life and health, including dying of cancer or having a deformed child. "The benefit side is to make money or gain political power. The bad news is that the people who make these trade-offs for us are the same" ones who profit. She called industrial radioactive pollution "cumulatively greater than from Chernobyl....We are now in a no-win situation with radioactive materials, where (it's) acceptable to have cancer deaths, deformed children, and miscarriages." Moreover, industry propaganda claims nuclear power is clean and green, when, in fact, the nuclear fuel cycle discharges significant amounts of greenhouse gases, as well as hundreds of thousands of curies of deadly radioactive gases and elements into the environment every year. "Claiming nuclear production of energy is 'clean,' " said Bertell, "is like dieting but stuffing yourself with food between meals." Planetary survival depends on ending all forms of nuclear proliferation. It's "imperative, because we now find ourselves in a strange situation, where the military strategy to save industrialized countries is not only destroying the environment and the gene pool in (them), but also destroying the biosphere, as radioactive material is circulated in the air, water, and food - whether or not (there's) a nuclear accident or war." Gene pool mutations "create a next generation that is physically less able to cope with hazardous material," a degenerating process over time, affecting physical and mental well-being. Moreover, "(w)hen chromosomes are damaged and then damaged a second time before (having) a chance to repair," bizarre problems occur. For example, "a child developed from damaged chromosomes may have a broad spectrum of defects." All toxic hazards are serious, nuclear pollution worst of all because "all human life is threatened....Our present path is headed toward species death - whether fast, with nuclear war or technological disaster, or slow, by poison." Our present path is suicide. Bertell said so in 1985 and again in 1991. Continued nuclear proliferation and Fukushima accelerated it. What will it take to convince policy makers and profiteers to end this madness? Nothing so far has worked. Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net. Also visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com and listen to cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on the Progressive Radio News Hour on the Progressive Radio Network Thursdays at 10AM US Central time and Saturdays and Sundays at noon. All programs are archived for easy listening http://uruknet.com/?p=m76601&hd=&size=1&l=e
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« Reply #580 on: April 07, 2011, 06:53:58 AM » |
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the globalists are ruthless murdering bastards That's the sum of it.
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« Reply #582 on: April 07, 2011, 07:45:46 AM » |
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If you don't agree with a threads title or theme perhaps you should have started another thread to present the apposing view instead of trying to beat the offending thread into submission with two line whines.
If I don't agree with a thread I simply ignore it. In my humble opinion that is the intelligent and mature position to take and I try to behave accordingly.
The title of this thread started by wouldntyouliketoknow is: Radiation levels at nuke plant continuing to rise-radiation 1,000 times higherAbsolutely nothing of evidence and much has been presented to thoroughly and completely disprove this silly, ignorant and illogical HAARP and Stuxnet thread hijacking nuclear energy industry corporatist disinformation nonsense in it. Nuclear energy industry corporatists are directly and criminally responsible for this criminal negligence and corruption that placed those crappy inherently totally unsafe and insecure junk US Navy surplus reactors in that crappy and ill-supported and safeguarded condition in the sensitive and dangerous location. This is a real flag not a false one - wake the heck up! This inane idiot-theory garbage-paranoia title-hijacking nonsense makes this entire thread and this entire forum a laughingstock and a humiliating embarrassment to everyone who recognizes the truth. There is not one single shred of motive, evidence or benefit whatsoever to fraudulently attempt to so lamely link this clearly caused disaster and it's obvious implications and effects with this silly HAARP nor Stuxnet nonsense. it is abundantly clear exactly what, why, where and how this happened.
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« Reply #583 on: April 07, 2011, 08:23:55 AM » |
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You are so determined NOT to consider the possibility that this was a false flag. What the hell? You think they stopped creating ' new Pearl Harbor events' after 911? Gee Agentbluescreen, you might be in the wrong forum; we don't hide behind wool here... we consider that the globalists are ruthless murdering bastards, and any large-scale event that happens to further their agenda is suspect. But you say, " totally disproved"... not sure where you are getting your evidence. I haven't seen a shred of evidence that this was NOT a contrived event; there is technology that can create earthquakes (from the Former Sec. of Defense), and there is technology that can take down a nuclear plant. The technology exists.. don't be such a luddite. LOL! Fine there is but who would benefit? The same profiteering military-industrial killers who have sold and are criminally and irresponsibly selling unsafe and insecure planet destroying and depopulating above-ground nuclear time bombs as "safe power stations" to gullible idiots? Why would they "stage an attack" that convicts themselves of their own crimes?Above ground nuclear energy is criminally negligent, impossible to guarantee and totally, absolutely and irreconcilably criminally unsafe and deadly for all life on earth. It always has been and always will be merely a continual unnecessary exercise in averting a continuing unnecessary global disaster. Safer, yet still very, very, risky, already buried deep below ground "nuclear energy" is far too expensive to be commercially viable.If some moron wished to have started a successful thread about his or her stupid Stuxnet and HAARP PARANOIA somewhere they should have done so instead of lamely and foolishly discrediting this forum by hijacking this main one about the Nuclear-Criminal Corporatist Crimes Against Humanity at FukushimaLOL indeed
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« Reply #584 on: April 07, 2011, 01:08:38 PM » |
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The title of this thread started by wouldntyouliketoknow is:
Radiation levels at nuke plant continuing to rise-radiation 1,000 times higher
Absolutely nothing of evidence and much has been presented to thoroughly and completely disprove this silly, ignorant and illogical HAARP and Stuxnet thread hijacking nuclear energy industry corporatist disinformation nonsense in it. Nuclear energy industry corporatists are directly and criminally responsible for this criminal negligence and corruption that placed those crappy inherently totally unsafe and insecure junk US Navy surplus reactors in that crappy and ill-supported and safeguarded condition in the sensitive and dangerous location.
This is a real flag not a false one - wake the heck up!
This inane idiot-theory garbage-paranoia title-hijacking nonsense makes this entire thread and this entire forum a laughingstock and a humiliating embarrassment to everyone who recognizes the truth. There is not one single shred of motive, evidence or benefit whatsoever to fraudulently attempt to so lamely link this clearly caused disaster and it's obvious implications and effects with this silly HAARP nor Stuxnet nonsense.
it is abundantly clear exactly what, why, where and how this happened.
Ahh, you are the voice of reason amongst "inane idiot-theory garbage-paranoia title-hijacking nonsense" and you will save us from "this entire thread and this entire forum" becoming "a laughingstock and a humiliating embarrassment to everyone who recognizes the truth". It is abundantly clear exactly what, why, where and how you are here.
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« Reply #585 on: April 07, 2011, 01:35:34 PM » |
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« Reply #586 on: April 07, 2011, 09:34:28 PM » |
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Ahh, you are the voice of reason amongst "inane idiot-theory garbage-paranoia title-hijacking nonsense" and you will save us from "this entire thread and this entire forum" becoming "a laughingstock and a humiliating embarrassment to everyone who recognizes the truth".
Sarcasm and the "saving us" part, aside. That is the smartest thing I have read all day and I have read lots. Yes that is a voice of reason. There should be Fukushima threads that are factual and others that are theories with titles that indicate the content, instead of nonsense titles being applied to solid content threads interwoven with postulation that may or may not be true. Speculative radiation readings are far less speculative than notions of stuxnet/haarp. In fact the reading are real and the other complete conjecture and that should be clear. So yes it is embarrassing. It is abundantly clear exactly what, why, where and how you are here.
Please elaborate. I dont get it.
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« Reply #587 on: April 07, 2011, 10:08:47 PM » |
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If you don't agree with a threads title or theme perhaps you should have started another thread to present the apposing view instead of trying to beat the offending thread into submission with two line whines.
If I don't agree with a thread I simply ignore it. In my humble opinion that is the intelligent and mature position to take and I try to behave accordingly.
[/size] Whoa had to shake myself out of a trance. Actually, that would be the passive, dumb, sheep-like position which you hilariously stress with a head pat--"I try to behave accordingly." But to your point, this is not possible when accurate titles are derailed which then irrevocably leads to corrupting the content of the thread. Because it is erroneously titled well into its evolution. Am i misbehaving?
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« Reply #588 on: April 08, 2011, 01:33:00 AM » |
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@ grapecrusher - IF you truly understood haarp you would not call this speculative. HAARP was on and firing at nice LOW FREQUENCY (despite the misnomer) during the original Japanese quake (and the haiti one, and numerous others. The alfven (0.9Hz) resonance has been well docuimented to pass through earth . . . but you believe what you like !
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« Reply #589 on: April 08, 2011, 01:56:22 AM » |
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@ grapecrusher - IF you truly understood haarp you would not call this speculative. HAARP was on and firing at nice LOW FREQUENCY (despite the misnomer) during the original Japanese quake (and the haiti one, and numerous others. The alfven (0.9Hz) resonance has been well docuimented to pass through earth . . . but you believe what you like !
Phasma -- I do not discount that possibility. Just because I back ABS on his criticism of the title change doesnt mean I think he is correct on his appraisal of Fukushima. His ideas on the Pentagon are obviously flawed and I am not aligned in that way, either. And I have been a critic of the Japan disaster titles for a while now and have heavily chastised the Mods for it --- and to my surprise the titles have not changed and my posts remained. Shit, there is a skinned pelt of a mod still drying in the radioactive wind. If you look through my posts my point should be clearer.
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« Reply #590 on: April 08, 2011, 02:10:59 AM » |
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Phasma -- I do not discount that possibility.
Just because I back ABS on his criticism of the title change doesnt mean I think he is correct on his appraisal of Fukushima. His ideas on the Pentagon are obviously flawed and I am not aligned in that way, either. And I have been a critic of the Japan disaster titles for a while now and have heavily chastised the Mods for it --- and to my surprise the titles have not changed and my posts remained. Shit, there is a skinned pelt of a mod still drying in the radioactive wind.
If you look through my posts my point should be clearer.
i should add his appraisals of fukushima seem much more accurate than most.
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« Reply #591 on: April 08, 2011, 02:27:29 AM » |
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The title of this thread started by wouldntyouliketoknow is:
Radiation levels at nuke plant continuing to rise-radiation 1,000 times higher
Absolutely nothing of evidence and much has been presented to thoroughly and completely disprove this silly, ignorant and illogical HAARP and Stuxnet thread hijacking nuclear energy industry corporatist disinformation nonsense in it. Nuclear energy industry corporatists are directly and criminally responsible for this criminal negligence and corruption that placed those crappy inherently totally unsafe and insecure junk US Navy surplus reactors in that crappy and ill-supported and safeguarded condition in the sensitive and dangerous location.
This is a real flag not a false one - wake the heck up!
This inane idiot-theory garbage-paranoia title-hijacking nonsense makes this entire thread and this entire forum a laughingstock and a humiliating embarrassment to everyone who recognizes the truth. There is not one single shred of motive, evidence or benefit whatsoever to fraudulently attempt to so lamely link this clearly caused disaster and it's obvious implications and effects with this silly HAARP nor Stuxnet nonsense.
it is abundantly clear exactly what, why, where and how this happened.
OMFG, 1,000x normal? Tell me you are kidding! That proves real flag! Check this out, 1/5th of the United States may have over 2,000x normal thanks to fracking. And this blockbuster report on radiation all over America which has not been tested for 5 years came out 13 days beofre your "real" radiation flag. WHAT AN ASTRONOMICALLY AMAZING COINCIDENCE! 13 Days before the False Flag...
NEW YORK — The American landscape is dotted with hundreds of thousands of new wells and drilling rigs, as the country scrambles to tap into this century’s gold rush — for natural gas. The gas has always been there, of course, trapped deep underground in countless tiny bubbles, like frozen spills of seltzer water between thin layers of shale rock. But drilling companies have only in recent years developed techniques to unlock the enormous reserves, thought to be enough to supply the country with gas for heating buildings, generating electricity and powering vehicles for up to a hundred years. So energy companies are clamoring to drill. And they are getting rare support from their usual sparring partners. Environmentalists say using natural gas will help slow climate change because it burns more cleanly than coal and oil. Lawmakers hail the gas as a source of jobs. They also see it as a way to wean the United States from its dependency on other countries for oil. But the relatively new drilling method — known as high-volume horizontal hydraulic fracturing, or hydrofracking — carries significant environmental risks. It involves injecting huge amounts of water, mixed with sand and chemicals, at high pressures to break up rock formations and release the gas. With hydrofracking, a well can produce over a million gallons of wastewater that is often laced with highly corrosive salts, carcinogens like benzene and radioactive elements like radium, all of which can occur naturally thousands of feet underground. Other carcinogenic materials can be added to the wastewater by the chemicals used in the hydrofracking itself. While the existence of the toxic wastes has been reported, thousands of internal documents obtained by The New York Times from the Environmental Protection Agency, state regulators and drillers show that the dangers to the environment and health are greater than previously understood. The documents reveal that the wastewater, which is sometimes hauled to sewage plants not designed to treat it and then discharged into rivers that supply drinking water, contains radioactivity at levels higher than previously known, and far higher than the level that federal regulators say is safe for these treatment plants to handle. Other documents and interviews show that many E.P.A. scientists are alarmed, warning that the drilling waste is a threat to drinking water in Pennsylvania. Their concern is based partly on a 2009 study, never made public, written by an E.P.A. consultant who concluded that some sewage treatment plants were incapable of removing certain drilling waste contaminants and were probably violating the law. The Times also found never-reported studies by the E.P.A. and a confidential study by the drilling industry that all concluded that radioactivity in drilling waste cannot be fully diluted in rivers and other waterways. But the E.P.A. has not intervened. In fact, federal and state regulators are allowing most sewage treatment plants that accept drilling waste not to test for radioactivity. And most drinking-water intake plants downstream from those sewage treatment plants in Pennsylvania, with the blessing of regulators, have not tested for radioactivity since before 2006, even though the drilling boom began in 2008. In other words, there is no way of guaranteeing that the drinking water taken in by all these plants is safe. That has experts worried“We’re burning the furniture to heat the house,” said John H. Quigley, who left last month as secretary of Pennsylvania’s Department of Conservation and Natural Resources. “In shifting away from coal and toward natural gas, we’re trying for cleaner air, but we’re producing massive amounts of toxic wastewater with salts and naturally occurring radioactive materials, and it’s not clear we have a plan for properly handling this waste.” The risks are particularly severe in Pennsylvania, which has seen a sharp increase in drilling, with roughly 71,000 active gas wells, up from about 36,000 in 2000. The level of radioactivity in the wastewater has sometimes been hundreds or even thousands of times the maximum allowed by the federal standard for drinking water. While people clearly do not drink drilling wastewater, the reason to use the drinking-water standard for comparison is that there is no comprehensive federal standard for what constitutes safe levels of radioactivity in drilling wastewater. Drillers trucked at least half of this waste to public sewage treatment plants in Pennsylvania in 2008 and 2009, according to state officials. Some of it has been sent to other states, including New York and West Virginia. Yet sewage treatment plant operators say they are far less capable of removing radioactive contaminants than most other toxic substances. Indeed, most of these facilities cannot remove enough of the radioactive material to meet federal drinking-water standards before discharging the wastewater into rivers, sometimes just miles upstream from drinking-water intake plants. In Pennsylvania, these treatment plants discharged waste into some of the state’s major river basins. Greater amounts of the wastewater went to the Monongahela River, which provides drinking water to more than 800,000 people in the western part of the state, including Pittsburgh, and to the Susquehanna River, which feeds into Chesapeake Bay and provides drinking water to more than six million people, including some in Harrisburg and Baltimore. Lower amounts have been discharged into the Delaware River, which provides drinking water for more than 15 million people in Philadelphia and eastern Pennsylvania. In New York, the wastewater was sent to two plants that discharge into Southern Cayuga Lake, near Ithaca, and Owasco Outlet, near Auburn. In West Virginia, a plant in Wheeling discharged gas-drilling wastewater into the Ohio River. “Hydrofracking impacts associated with health problems as well as widespread air and water contamination have been reported in at least a dozen states,” said Walter Hang, president of Toxics Targeting, a business in Ithaca, N.Y., that compiles data on gas drilling. Problems in Other Regions While Pennsylvania is an extreme case, the risks posed by hydrofracking extend across the country. There were more than 493,000 active natural-gas wells in the United States in 2009, almost double the number in 1990. Around 90 percent have used hydrofracking to get more gas flowing, according to the drilling industry. Gas has seeped into underground drinking-water supplies in at least five states, including Colorado, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas and West Virginia, and residents blamed natural-gas drilling. Air pollution caused by natural-gas drilling is a growing threat, too. Wyoming, for example, failed in 2009 to meet federal standards for air quality for the first time in its history partly because of the fumes containing benzene and toluene from roughly 27,000 wells, the vast majority drilled in the past five years. In a sparsely populated Sublette County in Wyoming, which has some of the highest concentrations of wells, vapors reacting to sunlight have contributed to levels of ozone higher than those recorded in Houston and Los Angeles. Industry officials say any dangerous waste from the wells is handled in compliance with state and federal laws, adding that drilling companies are recycling more wastewater now. They also say that hydrofracking is well regulated by the states and that it has been used safely for decades. But hydrofracking technology has become more powerful and more widely used in recent years, producing far more wastewater. Some of the problems with this drilling, including its environmental impact and the challenge of disposing of waste, have been documented by ProPublica, The Associated Press and other news organizations. And recent incidents underscore the dangers. In late 2008, drilling and coal-mine waste released during a drought so overwhelmed the Monongahela that local officials advised people in the Pittsburgh area to drink bottled water. E.P.A. officials described the incident in an internal memorandum as “one of the largest failures in U.S. history to supply clean drinking water to the public.” In Texas, which now has about 93,000 natural-gas wells, up from around 58,000 a dozen years ago, a hospital system in six counties with some of the heaviest drilling said in 2010 that it found a 25 percent asthma rate for young children, more than three times the state rate of about 7 percent. “It’s ruining us,” said Kelly Gant, whose 14-year-old daughter and 11-year-old son have experienced severe asthma attacks, dizzy spells and headaches since a compressor station and a gas well were set up about two years ago near her house in Bartonville, Tex. The industry and state regulators have said it is not clear what role the gas industry has played in causing such problems, since the area has had high air pollution for a while. “I’m not an activist, an alarmist, a Democrat, environmentalist or anything like that,” Ms. Gant said. “I’m just a person who isn’t able to manage the health of my family because of all this drilling.” And yet, for all its problems, natural gas offers some clear environmental advantages over coal, which is used more than any other fuel to generate electricity in the United States. Coal-fired power plants without updated equipment to capture pollutants are a major source of radioactive pollution. Coal mines annually produce millions of tons of toxic waste. But the hazards associated with natural-gas production and drilling are far less understood than those associated with other fossil fuels, and the regulations have not kept pace with the natural-gas industry’s expansion. Pennsylvania, Ground Zero Pennsylvania, which sits atop an enormous reserve called the Marcellus Shale, has been called the Saudi Arabia of natural gas. This rock formation, roughly the size of Greece, lies more than a mile beneath the Appalachian landscape, from Virginia to the southern half of New York. It is believed to hold enough gas to supply the country’s energy needs for heat and electricity, at current consumption rates, for more than 15 years. This has brought thousands of jobs, five-figure windfalls for residents who lease their land to the drillers and revenue for a state that has struggled with budget deficits. It has also transformed the landscape of southwestern Pennsylvania and brought heavy burdens. Drilling derricks tower over barns, lining rural roads like feed silos. Drilling sites bustle around the clock with workers, some in yellow hazardous material suits, and 18-wheelers haul equipment, water and waste along back roads. The rigs announce their presence with the occasional boom and quiver of underground explosions. Smelling like raw sewage mixed with gasoline, drilling-waste pits, some as large as a football field, sit close to homes. Anywhere from 10 percent to 40 percent of the water sent down the well during hydrofracking returns to the surface, carrying drilling chemicals, very high levels of salts and, at times, naturally occurring radioactive material. While most states require drillers to dispose of this water in underground storage wells below impermeable rock layers, Pennsylvania has few such wells. It is the only state that has allowed drillers to discharge much of their waste through sewage treatment plants into rivers. Regulators have theorized that passing drilling waste through the plants is safe because most toxic material will settle during the treatment process into a sludge that can be trucked to a landfill, and whatever toxic material remains in the wastewater will be diluted when mixed into rivers. But some plants were taking such large amounts of waste with high salt levels in 2008 that downstream utilities started complaining that the river water was eating away at their machines. Regulators and drilling companies have said that these cases, and others, were isolated. “The wastewater treatment plants are effective at what they’re designed to do — remove material from wastewater,” said Jamie Legenos, a spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection, adding that the radioactive material and the salts were being properly handled. Overwhelmed, Underprepared For proof that radioactive elements in drilling waste are not a concern, industry spokesmen and regulators often point to the results of wastewater tests from a 2009 draft report conducted by New York State and a 1995 report by Pennsylvania that found that radioactivity in drilling waste was not a threat. These two reports were based on samples from roughly 13 gas wells in New York and 29 in Pennsylvania. But a review by The Times of more than 30,000 pages of federal, state and company records relating to more than 200 gas wells in Pennsylvania, 40 in West Virginia and 20 public and private wastewater treatment plants offers a fuller picture of the wastewater such wells produce and the threat it poses. Most of the information was drawn from drilling reports from the last three years, obtained by visiting regional offices throughout Pennsylvania, and from documents or databases provided by state and federal regulators in response to records requests. Among The Times’s findings: -More than 1.3 billion gallons of wastewater was produced by Pennsylvania wells over the past three years, far more than has been previously disclosed. Most of this water — enough to cover Manhattan in three inches — was sent to treatment plants not equipped to remove many of the toxic materials in drilling waste.
-At least 12 sewage treatment plants in three states accepted gas industry wastewater and discharged waste that was only partly treated into rivers, lakes and streams.
-Of more than 179 wells producing wastewater with high levels of radiation, at least 116 reported levels of radium or other radioactive materials 100 times as high as the levels set by federal drinking-water standards.
-At least 15 wells produced wastewater carrying more than 1,000 times the amount of radioactive elements considered acceptable. Results came from field surveys conducted by state and federal regulators, year-end reports filed by drilling companies and state-ordered tests of some public treatment plants. Most of the tests measured drilling wastewater for radium or for “gross alpha” radiation, which typically comes from radium, uranium and other elements. Industry officials say they are not concerned“These low levels of radioactivity pose no threat to the public or worker safety and are more a public perception issue than a real health threat,” said James E. Grey, chief operating officer of Triana Energy. In interviews, industry trade groups like the Marcellus Shale Coalition and Energy in Depth, as well as representatives from energy companies like Shell and Chesapeake Energy, said they were producing far less wastewater because they were recycling much of it rather than disposing of it after each job. But even with recycling, the amount of wastewater produced in Pennsylvania is expected to increase because, according to industry projections, more than 50,000 new wells are likely to be drilled over the next two decades. The radioactivity in the wastewater is not necessarily dangerous to people who are near it. It can be blocked by thin barriers, including skin, so exposure is generally harmless. Rather, E.P.A. and industry researchers say, the bigger danger of radioactive wastewater is its potential to contaminate drinking water or enter the food chain through fish or farming. Once radium enters a person’s body, by eating, drinking or breathing, it can cause cancer and other health problems, many federal studies show. Little Testing for Radioactivity Under federal law, testing for radioactivity in drinking water is required only at drinking-water plants. But federal and state regulators have given nearly all drinking-water intake facilities in Pennsylvania permission to test only once every six or nine years. The Times reviewed data from more than 65 intake plants downstream from some of the busiest drilling regions in the state. Not one has tested for radioactivity since 2008, and most have not tested since at least 2005, before most of the drilling waste was being produced. And in 2009 and 2010, public sewage treatment plants directly upstream from some of these drinking-water intake facilities accepted wastewater that contained radioactivity levels as high as 2,122 times the drinking-water standard. But most sewage plants are not required to monitor for radioactive elements in the water they discharge. So there is virtually no data on such contaminants as water leaves these plants. Regulators and gas producers have repeatedly said that the waste is not a threat because it is so diluted in rivers or by treatment plants. But industry and federal research cast doubt on those statements. A confidential industry study from 1990, conducted for the American Petroleum Institute, concluded that “using conservative assumptions,” radium in drilling wastewater dumped off the Louisiana coast posed “potentially significant risks” of cancer for people who eat fish from those waters regularly. The industry study focused on drilling industry wastewater being dumped into the Gulf of Mexico, where it would be far more diluted than in rivers. It also used estimates of radium levels far below those found in Pennsylvania’s drilling waste, according to the study’s lead author, Anne F. Meinhold, an environmental risk expert now at NASA. Other federal, state and academic studies have also found dilution problems with radioactive drilling waste. In December 2009, these very risks led E.P.A. scientists to advise in a letter to New York that sewage treatment plants not accept drilling waste with radium levels 12 or more times as high as the drinking-water standard. The Times found wastewater containing radium levels that were hundreds of times this standard.The scientists also said that the plants should never discharge radioactive contaminants at levels higher than the drinking-water standard. In 2009, E.P.A. scientists studied the matter and also determined that certain Pennsylvania rivers were ineffective at sufficiently diluting the radium-laced drilling wastewater being discharged into them. Asked about the studies, Pennsylvania regulators said they were not aware of them. “Concerned? I’m always concerned,” said Dave Allard, director of the Bureau of Radiation Protection. But he added that the threat of this waste is reduced because “the dilutions are so huge going through those treatment plants.” Three months after The Times began asking questions about radioactive and other toxic material being discharged into specific rivers, state regulators placed monitors for radioactivity near where drilling waste is discharged. Data will not be available until next month, state officials said. But the monitor in the Monongahela is placed upstream from the two public sewage treatment plants that the state says are still discharging large amounts of drilling waste into the river, leaving the discharges from these plants unchecked and Pittsburgh exposed. Plant Operators in the Dark In interviews, five treatment plant operators said they did not believe that the drilling wastewater posed risks to the public. Several also said they were not sure of the waste’s contents because the limited information drillers provide usually goes to state officials. “We count on state regulators to make sure that that’s properly done,” said Paul McCurdy, environmental specialist at Ridgway Borough’s public sewage treatment plant, in Elk County, Pa., in the northwest part of the state. Mr. McCurdy, whose plant discharges into the Clarion River, which flows into the Ohio and Mississippi Rivers, said his plant was taking about 20,000 gallons of drilling waste per day. Like most of the sewage treatment plant operators interviewed, Mr. McCurdy said his plant was not equipped to remove radioactive material and was not required to test for it. Documents filed by drillers with the state, though, show that in 2009 his facility was sent water from wells whose wastewater was laced with radium at 275 times the drinking-water standard and with other types of radiation at more than 780 times the standard. Part of the problem is that industry has outpaced regulators. “We simply can’t keep up,” said one inspector with the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection who was not authorized to speak to reporters. “There’s just too much of the waste.” “If we’re too hard on them,” the inspector added, “the companies might just stop reporting their mistakes.” Recently, Pennsylvania has tried to increase its oversight, doubling the number of regulators, improving well-design requirements and sharply decreasing how much drilling waste many treatment plants can accept or release. The state is considering whether to require treatment plants to begin monitoring for radioactivity in wastewater. Even so, as of last November, 31 inspectors were keeping tabs on more than 125,000 oil and gas wells. The new regulations also allowed at least 18 plants to continue accepting the higher amounts set by their original permits. Furthermore, environmental researchers from the University of Pittsburgh tested wastewater late last year that had been discharged by two treatment plants. They say these tests will show, when the results are publicly released in March, that salt levels were far above the legal limit. Lax Oversight Drilling contamination is entering the environment in Pennsylvania through spills, too. In the past three years, at least 16 wells whose records showed high levels of radioactivity in their wastewater also reported spills, leaks or failures of pits where hydrofracking fluid or waste is stored, according to state records. Gas producers are generally left to police themselves when it comes to spills. In Pennsylvania, regulators do not perform unannounced inspections to check for signs of spills. Gas producers report their own spills, write their own spill response plans and lead their own cleanup efforts. A review of response plans for drilling projects at four Pennsylvania sites where there have been accidents in the past year found that these state-approved plans often appear to be in violation of the law. At one well site where several spills occurred within a week, including one that flowed into a creek, the well’s operator filed a revised spill plan saying there was little chance that waste would ever enter a waterway. “There are business pressures” on companies to “cut corners,” John Hanger, who stepped down as secretary of the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection in January, has said. “It’s cheaper to dump wastewater than to treat it.” Records back up that assertionFrom October 2008 through October 2010, regulators were more than twice as likely to issue a written warning than to levy a fine for environmental and safety violations, according to state data. During this period, 15 companies were fined for drilling-related violations in 2008 and 2009, and the companies paid an average of about $44,000 each year, according to state data. This average was less than half of what some of the companies earned in profits in a day and a tiny fraction of the more than $2 million that some of them paid annually to haul and treat the waste. In December, the Republican governor-elect, Tom Corbett, who during his campaign took more gas industry contributions than all his competitors combined, said he would reopen state land to new drilling, reversing a decision made by his predecessor, Edward G. Rendell. The change clears the way for as many as 10,000 wells on public land, up from about 25 active wells today. In arguing against a proposed gas-extraction tax on the industry, Mr. Corbett said regulation of the industry had been too aggressive. “I will direct the Department of Environmental Protection to serve as a partner with Pennsylvania businesses, communities and local governments,” Mr. Corbett says on his Web site. “It should return to its core mission protecting the environment based on sound science.”
13 Days before the Japan False Flag... NY Times exposed the following:
This immediately led to the following: Secretary of Interior Salazar and Head of the EPA Jackson Required Full Investigations Congressional Hearings Called for Immediate Scans of Radiation Levels at All Well Sites Preliminary reports were over 2,000x the Acceptable Radioactive Levelshttp://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=205227.0
More results were not due until after the Japan False Flag. For the past 24 days we have seen over 100,000 news reports about trace radiation in various parts of America. The fact is that radiation testing has been halted at most wells for the past 5 years...before the fracking industry really started taking off. It is very suspicious that we now have another "culprit" to blame these increased radiation numbers on.
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« Reply #592 on: April 08, 2011, 02:33:01 AM » |
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i should add his appraisals of fukushima seem much more accurate than most.
Really? How so? All I have seen is frail attempts to repeat the same denials of the fact that 0% reactors have ever melted from earthquakes and 100% of reactors hit by Stuxnet have had meltdown opportunities. Chernyobl has also been exposed as a false flag, they were doing a military drill and had all the safety precautions turned off. They also forced the drill to completion even though they knew it would cause a meltdown. Pretty wild, huh? Try looking into Stuxnet because they are targeting many other reactors and the sooner the investigation starts on Stuxnet, the quicker they will abandon this false flag military operation.
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« Reply #593 on: April 08, 2011, 03:17:50 AM » |
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Honestly, I am surprised you are coming up with lame red herrings. I do not dismiss the idea that this was by design. However I do criticize how this unfolding nightmare has been handled within this forum. And that should be clear. Radiation is real. Please modify titles appropriately.
Here is the title... "Japan's nuke reactors being hit by Stuxnet as well as HAARP earthquake?" What does that have to do with your 'red herring' talking point (I guess I should be happy you did not use the 'I am surprised you are using Goodwin's Law' accusatory talking point)? How does the unfolding nightmare become less tragic if it is a false flag? And that should be clear. Your argument lacks substance. Please modify future arguments appropriately. Maybe with less accustory nonsense and a bit more logic.
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« Reply #594 on: April 08, 2011, 04:01:06 AM » |
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« Reply #595 on: April 08, 2011, 09:26:32 AM » |
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04-06-2011 - Fukushima Update - Arnie Gundersen shares the Truthhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6dDWl523-kFurther details on how a " Windoze PC computer with Stuxnet planted on it by al CIAduh in Japan (AQIJ) on it" broke their above ground fuel-bomb pools and is costing poor, innocent TEPCO and GE a fortune and killing you... /extreme sarcasm
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« Reply #596 on: April 08, 2011, 10:07:23 AM » |
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04-06-2011 - Fukushima Update - Arnie Gundersen shares the Truthhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6dDWl523-kFurther details on how a " Windoze PC computer with Stuxnet planted on it by al CIAduh in Japan (AQIJ) on it" broke their above ground fuel-bomb pools and is costing poor, innocent TEPCO and GE a fortune and killing you... /extreme sarcasm Yup, General Electric is completely surprised that their purposefully created "shower the citizens with radiation" reactors are now "showering the citizens with radiation". Total coincidence... [FROM 2007]
[...] GE has designed 91 nuclear power plants in 11 countries, yet its nuclear reactors around the world have a fatal flaw. In the event of a nuclear meltdown, there is a 90 percent chance that radiation from GE-designed reactors would be discharged directly into the atmosphere. While the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission is aware of the problem, it continues to license GE nuclear reactors. GE’s history with nuclear power is an ugly one.
 In the 1940s-1960s the company ran experiments on humans with radiation, including irradiating the reproductive organs of prison inmates in Walla Walla, Washington, without warning them of the risk of cancer. Other tests were run on the elderly and hospital patients. General Electric intentionally released large amounts of radiation into the air from the Hanford Nuclear Reservation in Richland, in order to see the distance it would travel. These atrocities were revealed in hearings in 1986 held by Representative Edward Markey of Massachusetts.
The company has also been accused of knowingly poisoning its workers at the Knolls Atomic Power Laboratory in Schenectady, New York with radiation and asbestos.
 General Electric is currently attempting to overturn the US Superfund Law of 1980, which allows the government to hold polluters responsible for cleaning up their toxic chemicals. GE argues that it is “unconstitutional” for the Environmental Protection Agency to force the company to pay $500 million for the cleanup of the Hudson River, where GE dumped carcinogenic PCBs, or polychlorinated biphenyls, over three decades. In March 2004, a federal appeals court has revived GE’s lawsuit. It shouldn’t come as a surprise that GE is trying to change the Superfund Law: the company is responsible for 78 Superfund sites around the US. It’s clearly not safe to be a worker for GE either. The US government’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration, or OSHA, has cited the company for 858 workplace safety violations from 1990-2001. General Electric has been involved in so many cases of fraud that in the 1990s the Pentagon's Defense Contract Management Agency created a special investigations office specifically for the company, which indicted GE on 22 criminal counts and recovered $221.7 million. In one case, in 1992, GE entered a guilty plea to criminal and civil charges for defrauding the Pentagon in a case where money was funneled to the Israeli military. GE was fined $69 million for violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
 GE’s financial division has been another area ripe for fraud. GE was fined $100 million for trying to get bankrupt creditors to pay without informing the bankruptcy courts, in effect paying debts that they no longer legally owed. Not surprisingly, General Electric is the financial backer of WorldCom, the telecom company whose massive fraud and creative accounting led to the largest bankruptcy in US history.The company has been involved in countless scandals, but strangely enough, they don’t seem to affect General Electric’s ability to win government contracts – but then, this is typical of all military contractors. According to a survey by the Center for Public Integrity, from 1990-2002, 30 of the US government’s top contractors were found guilty of fraud in 400 cases, leading to settlements and fines amounting to at least $3.4 billion. General Electric paid $982.9 million for 63 cases in this period.
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« Reply #597 on: April 08, 2011, 10:47:51 AM » |
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Yup, General Electric is completely surprised that their purposefully created "shower the citizens with radiation" reactors are now "showering the citizens with radiation".
Total coincidence...
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Also a major coincidence that the criminal GE Goliath had the most to loose from the conveniently delayed Worldcom SEC bankruptcy investigation that never happened (because all the evidence was destroyed) after WTC Building 7 was just suddenly "pulled" for "convenience" and then, after a short countdown, collapsed into it's own footprint at free fall speed as though it was hit by a stroke of Zionist Lightning in the 9/11 Plot. (because some unnamed "fire chief" made the decision that the Worldcom and Enron evidence records safely stored there weren't worth putting a few fires out to save)
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« Reply #598 on: April 11, 2011, 05:14:20 PM » |
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http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/12_05.htmlJapan to raise Fukushima crisis level to worst The Japanese government's nuclear safety agency has decided to raise the crisis level of the Fukushima Daiichi power plant accident from 5 to 7, the worst on the international scale. The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency made the decision on Monday. It says the damaged facilities have been releasing a massive amount of radioactive substances, which are posing a threat to human health and the environment over a wide area. The agency used the International Nuclear and Radiological Event Scale, or INES, to gauge the level. The scale was designed by an international group of experts to indicate the significance of nuclear events with ratings of 0 to 7. On March 18th, one week after the massive quake, the agency declared the Fukushima trouble a level 5 incident, the same as the accident at Three Mile Island in the United States in 1979. Level 7 has formerly only been applied to the Chernobyl accident in the former Soviet Union in 1986 when hundreds of thousands of terabecquerels of radioactive iodine-131 were released into the air. One terabecquerel is one trillion becquerels. The agency believes the cumulative amount from the Fukushima plant is less than that from Chernobyl. Officials from the agency and the Nuclear Safety Commission will hold a news conference on Tuesday morning to explain the change of evaluation. Tuesday, April 12, 2011 05:47 +0900 (JST)
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« Reply #599 on: April 11, 2011, 05:34:43 PM » |
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So they are effectively admitting they are nuking the northern third of Japan. Any time now Jesus, these people down here have absolutely lost their minds!
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