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« Reply #80 on: March 02, 2011, 10:36:49 PM » |
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Sometimes a disagreement is just that. Let's stay focused.
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« Reply #81 on: March 02, 2011, 10:42:53 PM » |
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Sometimes a disagreement is just that. Let's stay focused.
More likely, on a huge political Chat Forum which pushes an alternative to the STUPID, sound byte/short clip driven Collective view... Disagreement may well be an organized attempt to cause DEFOCUS... Carry On... JTCoyoté "Philosophy is common sense
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« Reply #82 on: March 02, 2011, 10:46:26 PM » |
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Sometimes a disagreement is just that. Let's stay focused.
Focused on what? I thought this thread is about MSM character assassination of Charlie Sheen for being involved in the truth movement and their multitude of psyops and tactics they use such as removing his kids and trashing him. |
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« Reply #83 on: March 02, 2011, 10:49:15 PM » |
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least somebody got my back  dig brings up a pretty disturbing point though. watching that video of caldwell. he talks about not being able to control information from the "top down" anymore, and information has so much power. he says it's out of control. that's not comforting from an elitist. this is a lt. general telling you the battleground is the blogosphere. our military is going to war for the mind ! i guess they weren't kidding when they named it info wars. i would think sheen would be a pretty "high-priority" target. they must be watching us like hawks 
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Army of Fake Social Media Friends to Promote Propaganda Darlene Storm Computerworld February 24, 2011 It’s recently been revealed that the U.S. government contracted HBGary Federal for the development of software which could create multiple fake social media profiles to manipulate and sway public opinion on controversial issues by promoting propaganda. It could also be used as surveillance to find public opinions with points of view the powers-that-be didn’t like. It could then potentially have their “fake” people run smear campaigns against those “real” people. As disturbing as this is, it’s not really new for U.S. intelligence or private intelligence firms to do the dirty work behind closed doors. EFF previously warned that Big Brother wants to be your friend for social media surveillance. While the FBI Intelligence Information Report Handbook (PDF) mentioned using “covert accounts” to access protected information, other government agencies endorsed using security exploits to access protected information. It’s not a big surprise that the U.S. military also wants to use social media to its benefit. Last year, Public Intelligence published the U.S. Air Force social media guide which gave 10 tips for social media such as, “The enemy is engaged in this battlespace and you must engage there as well.” Number three was “DON’T LIE. Credibility is critical, without it, no one cares what you have to say…it’s also punishable by the UCMJ to give a false statement.” The Air Force used the chart below to show how social media influences public opinion.  http://www.infowars.com/army-of-fake-social-media-friends-to-promote-propaganda/read entire article: http://www.pcworld.com/article/220495/army_of_fake_social_media_friends_to_promote_propaganda.html larsonstdoc nails it...
If we can talk to each other in milliseconds, I have no doubt the government can trace all of us. If it scared us, we wouldn't be here. It scares them--that's why they are here.
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« Reply #84 on: March 02, 2011, 10:51:31 PM » |
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And that shows exactly who the truly paranoid are...
larsonstdoc nails it...
If we can talk to each other in milliseconds, I have no doubt the government can trace all of us. If it scared us, we wouldn't be here. It scares them--that's why they are here.
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« Reply #85 on: March 02, 2011, 11:04:07 PM » |
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More likely, on a huge political Chat Forum which pushes an alternative to the STUPID, sound byte/short clip driven Collective view...
Disagreement may well be an organized attempt to cause DEFOCUS...
Carry On...
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« Reply #86 on: March 02, 2011, 11:09:35 PM » |
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Something is going on. Bree Olson tweeted she is heading back to Indiana and Charlie Sheen tweeted he is disappearing for a bit as his first priority is his kids.
They are definitely doing something to him. He has almost 1.2 million followers on Twitter in 24 hours! But it appears his Twitter account is being messed with, at least when I'm not logged in on a computer. My phone twitter feed shows his tweets erased and picture erased.
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« Reply #87 on: March 02, 2011, 11:47:37 PM » |
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Disagreement is a good thing. Nobody has all the answers.
When disagreement is backed with fact, demonstrable and undeniably shown... it dispels doubt... When the disagreement is based tabloid rumor and ad-hom, judgmentally foisting up distrust to the point of being destructive of character beyond any mans knowledge to prove... Then it becomes over the top demonizing-propaganda... which by design creates doubt... That is when all I have said before holds true. Disagreement is neither good nor bad... however, in order to proceed resolutely unimpeded it must be overcome with fact. Otherwise, we get bogged down, wallowing in divisive rumor and innuendo... progress halted... which is exactly the object of these kinds of disinfo campaigns... Oldyoti "One of the main purposes for the control
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« Reply #88 on: March 03, 2011, 01:14:46 AM » |
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When disagreement is backed with fact, demonstrable and undeniably shown... it dispels doubt...
When the disagreement is based tabloid rumor and ad-hom, judgmentally foisting up distrust to the point of being destructive of character beyond any mans knowledge to prove... Then it becomes over the top demonizing-propaganda... which by design creates doubt... That is when all I have said before holds true.
Disagreement is neither good nor bad... however, in order to proceed resolutely unimpeded it must be overcome with fact. Otherwise, we get bogged down, wallowing in divisive rumor and innuendo... progress halted... which is exactly the object of these kinds of disinfo campaigns...
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« Reply #89 on: March 03, 2011, 02:50:56 AM » |
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« Reply #90 on: March 03, 2011, 09:13:50 AM » |
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Something is going on. Bree Olson tweeted she is heading back to Indiana and Charlie Sheen tweeted he is disappearing for a bit as his first priority is his kids.
They are definitely doing something to him. He has almost 1.2 million followers on Twitter in 24 hours! But it appears his Twitter account is being messed with, at least when I'm not logged in on a computer. My phone twitter feed shows his tweets erased and picture erased.
yeah the angle i was thinking about was these quack psychatrists come in and say you're dangerous, a threat, take your kids, and can lock you up if you're a "menace to society". all for some stuff you say ?!??! these people are overstepping their bounds. then how do they want to fix you ? drugs....WTF. listen to this pencil neck little dweeb tell us how crazy sheen is, and how home-rehab is a joke, no one gets better without modern medicine, and "if the government desn't step in the psychiatric community will"  ? says charlies relapsing, everything i've seen so far as drug tests are negative ? seems like they are blowing everything out of proportion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsS7cUvDnagreminds me of terminator 2, sarah connor locked up cuz she knew about skynet so she was crazy . people on this thread act like this is a gossiping TMZ thread, WE ARE GONNA BE THE NEXT ONES LOCKED UP !!! |
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« Reply #92 on: March 03, 2011, 06:12:53 PM » |
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Who cares? We do.
Charlie Sheen is one of us.
What if he isn't? We know he's an actor and actors are generally... 1. Great at pretending to be things they're not (I doubt pretending to be crazy would be that hard for someone who performs for a living) 2. Actors are generally willing pawns of TPTB How perfect would this be for them? The guy comes out talking about 9/11 conspiracies and then a while later, he turns out to be completely crazy. So the next time you're talking 9/11 conspiracy with someone, the first thing they hit you with is "My god! You sound just like Charlie Sheen!" What would this do? 1. Discredit "conspiracy types" 2. Set up a pretext for having the government do something like placing "strange people" into "protective custody". Essentially, what I am saying is this. What if sheen is one of them? |
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« Reply #93 on: March 03, 2011, 06:25:56 PM » |
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posted by pepsican"My god! You sound just like Charlie Sheen!"
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« Reply #94 on: March 03, 2011, 06:26:55 PM » |
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Essentially, what I am saying is this. What if sheen is one of them?
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« Reply #95 on: March 03, 2011, 06:30:06 PM » |
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THEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT YOU!
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« Reply #96 on: March 03, 2011, 06:50:21 PM » |
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...like they weren't laughing before.. winning
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« Reply #97 on: March 03, 2011, 06:53:12 PM » |
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You're right, it's all a big Conspiracy. "They" forced Charlie to do drugs, drink like a fish, have sex with porn stars and hookers, and run off at the mouth like a madman.
The guy was unstable and had problems long before he got involved with 9-11 Truth.
Do I dislike Charlie? No, not at all. Do I want him to clean himself up before it's too late? Sure. Do I think he's a good spokesman for 9-11 Truth? Absolutely not.
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« Reply #98 on: March 03, 2011, 06:55:39 PM » |
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« Reply #99 on: March 03, 2011, 07:11:34 PM » |
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then he has a funny way of showing it.
how's the disinfo biz these days ?
I just don't trust people who come from the establishment. Charlie Sheen was one of them when I was 15 years old. I was suspicious about him when he first started with the 9/11 stuff. At any rate, as much as his credibility has been destroyed by all this, having his name associated with truth isn't going to help us any. Whether he did it on purpose or it was all planned, the outcome is the same. He makes truthers look even more like lunatics than we did before. Remember. Originally, it was an asset for truth to have someone of his stature saying these things. What good is it now? His name will never be good for anything again unless he "goes clean". If he ever says anything that sounds the slightest bit unorthadox, people will just say "Oh, that's just crazy Charlie again!" |
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« Reply #100 on: March 03, 2011, 07:19:51 PM » |
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I just don't trust people who come from the establishment. Charlie Sheen was one of them when I was 15 years old.
I was suspicious about him when he first started with the 9/11 stuff. At any rate, as much as his credibility has been destroyed by all this, having his name associated with truth isn't going to help us any. Whether he did it on purpose or it was all planned, the outcome is the same. He makes truthers look even more like lunatics than we did before. Remember. Originally, it was an asset for truth to have someone of his stature saying these things. What good is it now? His name will never be good for anything again unless he "goes clean". If he ever says anything that sounds the slightest bit unorthadox, people will just say "Oh, that's just crazy Charlie again!"
go clean ? he never tested positive for drugs during all of this. why do you keep bringing that up ? his character hasn't been destroyed, he didn't do anything but rail on some people. then it was blown exponentially out of proportion, and now everyone's supposed to burn him at the stake ?  who writes your material ? |
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« Reply #101 on: March 03, 2011, 07:23:11 PM » |
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I just don't trust people who come from the establishment. Charlie Sheen was one of them when I was 15 years old.
I was suspicious about him when he first started with the 9/11 stuff. At any rate, as much as his credibility has been destroyed by all this, having his name associated with truth isn't going to help us any. Whether he did it on purpose or it was all planned, the outcome is the same. He makes truthers look even more like lunatics than we did before. Remember. Originally, it was an asset for truth to have someone of his stature saying these things. What good is it now? His name will never be good for anything again unless he "goes clean". If he ever says anything that sounds the slightest bit unorthadox, people will just say "Oh, that's just crazy Charlie again!"
Speak for yourself. The only thing that can make a person look like a lunatic is their own lunacy. If other people have that much control on how you are perceived then I suggest you stay in the house and lock your doors and NEVER stand for anything again. Adolescents are so manipulated by peer pressure it can be crippling but once autonomy is established they are free to be independent thinkers and not herd mentality. All I care about is the truth being exposed. Bring it out there. |
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« Reply #102 on: March 03, 2011, 07:32:47 PM » |
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his character hasn't been destroyed
You're kidding, right? Are you on the same internet I'm on? Everyone is talking about Charlie Sheen. No one is talking about Charlie Sheen being normal. Whether he's tested positive for drugs or not, most people are saying he's on drugs. I don't really care. I just don't think this is the guy you want talking about 9/11 truth. |
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« Reply #103 on: March 03, 2011, 07:39:53 PM » |
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You're kidding, right? Are you on the same internet I'm on? Everyone is talking about Charlie Sheen. No one is talking about Charlie Sheen being normal. Whether he's tested positive for drugs or not, most people are saying he's on drugs. I don't really care. I just don't think this is the guy you want talking about 9/11 truth.
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« Reply #104 on: March 03, 2011, 07:41:22 PM » |
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You're kidding, right? Are you on the same internet I'm on? Everyone is talking about Charlie Sheen. No one is talking about Charlie Sheen being normal. Whether he's tested positive for drugs or not, most people are saying he's on drugs. I don't really care. I just don't think this is the guy you want talking about 9/11 truth.
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