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Oh noes!!! A Blackwater/XE 'contractor' got busted killing people. Or so it's alleged...

Officials: Arrested American is actually CIA contractor

By Adam Goldman And Kimberly Dozier, Associated Press
WASHINGTON — An American jailed in Pakistan for the fatal shooting of two armed men was secretly working for the CIA and scouting a neighborhood when he was arrested, a disclosure likely to further frustrate U.S. government efforts to free the man and strain relations between two countries partnered in a fragile alliance in the war on terror.

Raymond Allen Davis, 36, had been working as a CIA security contractor for the U.S. consulate in Lahore, according to former and current U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to talk publicly about the incident.

Davis, a former Special Forces soldier who left the military in 2003, shot the men in what he described as an attempted armed robbery in the eastern city of Lahore as they approached him on a motorcycle. A third Pakistani, a bystander, died when a car rushing to help Davis struck him. Davis was reportedly carrying a Glock handgun, a pocket telescope and papers with different identifications.

Meanwhile, the Obama administration insisted anew Monday that Davis had diplomatic immunity and must be set free.
JUDICIARY: Pakistani court delays case of detained American

In a hastily arranged conference call with reporters shortly after details of Davis' employment were reported, senior State Department officials repeated the administration's stance that he is an accredited member of the technical and administrative staff of the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad. They said the Pakistani government had been informed of his status in January 2010 and that Pakistan is violating its international obligations by continuing to hold him.

The officials would not comment on Davis' employment but said it was irrelevant to the case because Pakistan had not rejected his status The officials spoke only on grounds of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation.

The revelation that Davis was an employee of the CIA comes amid a tumultuous dispute over whether he is immune from criminal prosecution under international rules enacted to protect diplomats overseas. New protests in Pakistan erupted after The Guardian newspaper in London decided to publish details about Davis' relationship with the CIA.

The U.S. had repeatedly asserted that Davis had diplomatic immunity and should have been released immediately. The State Department had claimed Davis was "entitled to full criminal immunity in accordance with the Vienna Convention" and was a member of the "technical and administrative staff" at the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad.

The Associated Press learned about Davis working for the CIA last month, immediately after the shootings, but withheld publication of the information because it could endanger his life while he was jailed overseas, with at least some protesters there calling for his execution as a spy.

The AP had intended to report Davis' CIA employment after he was out of harm's way, but the story was broken Sunday by The Guardian. The CIA asked The AP and several other U.S. media outlets to hold their stories as the U.S. tried to improve Davis' security situation.

A U.S. official says Davis is being held at a jail on the outskirts of Lahore where there are serious doubts about whether the Pakistanis can truly protect him. The official says the Pakistanis have expressed similar concerns to the U.S.

The State Department said the Pakistani government was informed that Davis was a diplomat and entitled to immunity when he was assigned to the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad. "We notified the Pakistani government when he arrived in Islamabad," department spokesman P.J. Crowley said.

Davis identified himself as a diplomat to police when he was arrested and "has repeatedly requested immunity" to no avail, Crowley said. The U.S. Embassy said he has a diplomatic passport and a visa valid through June 2012. It also said in a recent statement the U.S. had notified the Pakistani government of Davis' assignment more than a year ago. However, a senior Pakistani intelligence official says that Davis' visa application contained bogus U.S. contact information.

Since Pakistani authorities took the ex-Special Forces soldier into custody Jan. 27, U.S. officials said, the situation has slowly escalated into a crisis, threatening the CIA's ability to wage a dangerous war against al-Qaeda and militants. Some members of Congress have threatened to cut off the billions in funding to Pakistan if Davis isn't released.

Davis was attached to the CIA's Global Response Staff, which provides security overseas to agency bases and stations, former and current U.S. officials told the AP. In that role, he was assigned to protect CIA personnel. One of their duties includes protecting case officers when they meet with sources. On the day he was captured, he was familiarizing himself with the area.

"Davis is a protective officer, someone who provides security to U.S. officials in Pakistan," the U.S official said. "Rumors to the contrary are simply wrong."

In a YouTube video of local police interrogating him, Davis says he's a consultant and he's with the "RAO," a reference to the American Regional Affairs Office. Davis also said at one point he was attached to the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad.

Working for the agency's GRS comes with risks — sometimes fatal ones. The head of security at the CIA's base in Khost, Afghanistan, was killed with six others in December 2009 after a suicide bomber detonated a powerful explosive under his belt.

The CIA has a major presence in Pakistan, where it runs the drone program in Islamabad and offensive operations against militants, al-Qaeda and Pakistan's spy agency, Inter-Services Intelligence.

Former and current U.S. officials say the Pakistanis might have been stalling to release Davis so he could be extensively questioned, hoping he could provide more information about CIA activities in the troubled country or possibly even identify other agency officers.

The senior Pakistani intelligence official told the AP the two men in the response vehicle that went to aid Davis, killing the bystander, have left the country. The official said the Pakistani government's decision to let them leave was a concession to the U.S.

The U.S.-Pakistani partnership had begun to fray in recent months. In late 2010, a pair of civil lawsuits filed in the U.S. accused Pakistan's spy chief of nurturing terrorists involved in the 2008 Mumbai attacks. Shortly after the lawsuits were filed, the name of the CIA's top spy in Pakistan was publicly disclosed and his life threatened. He was eventually pulled out of the country in December, a month before the scheduled end of his tour.

A former CIA officer said militants have also threatened the children of ISI officers. And the CIA in recent years has become increasingly concerned about the safety of its officers in outlying areas like Lahore and Peshawar, a former senior U.S. intelligence source said. But the danger was more pronounced in Lahore, where the CIA learned there might be government elements willing to harm agency officers.

Former CIA officials said the agency officers could have been killed in 2009 when terrorists attacked an ISI compound in Lahore. CIA officers regularly met their counterparts at the compound but didn't have a meeting scheduled the day of the attack.

Further inflaming tensions, the wife of one of the men Davis shot committed suicide. She had said she feared her husband's killer would be freed without trial.

Military records show Davis, a Virginia native, served a decade in the Army, including five years with the 3rd Special Forces Group in Fort Bragg, N.C., home to the Green Berets.

Davis also worked for Xe Services, the security contractor formerly known as Blackwater.

Davis and his wife run a Las Vegas-registered company called Hyperion Protective Services. The address for its headquarters is a mailbox at a UPS store in a strip mall. The truth about Davis' true employer briefly slipped out after a local television reporter in Colorado called his wife.

In a story posted on the website of Denver's 9News, the wife provided the name and number of a "CIA spokesperson" in Washington, D.C. But the story was quickly taken down, edited and then reposted with new language eliminating any reference to the CIA.

The incident in Pakistan also raises serious questions about how an armed CIA employee could become involved in a fatal shooting with street bandits and allow himself to be captured. Former CIA officers say they were taught to make their way back to the safety of the embassy or consulate in potentially dangerous situations, but the circumstances could have made that impossible in Davis' case.

Former CIA officials say this is not the first time an agency employee was detained in a foreign country. In the 1980s, a CIA officer with diplomatic immunity was abducted in Ethiopia after he was suspected of spying. The case was quietly resolved and the officer was eventually released.
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Re: Officials: Arrested American is actually CIA contractor
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2011, 02:53:17 PM »
The State Department said the Pakistani government was informed that Davis was a diplomat and entitled to immunity when he was assigned to the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad. "We notified the Pakistani government when he arrived in Islamabad," department spokesman P.J. Crowley said.

Davis identified himself as a diplomat to police when he was arrested and "has repeatedly requested immunity" to no avail, Crowley said. The U.S. Embassy said he has a diplomatic passport and a visa valid through June 2012. It also said in a recent statement the U.S. had notified the Pakistani government of Davis' assignment more than a year ago. However, a senior Pakistani intelligence official says that Davis' visa application contained bogus U.S. contact information.


Diplomat... working for an XE-like agency?

They know it's bullshit and are calling the bluff.
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Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2011, 10:10:06 AM »
Davis had 'close links' with Taliban: Report

Press Trust Of India
Islamabad, February 22, 2011



American official Raymond Davis, arrested in the Pakistani city of Lahore for gunning down two armed men, had "close links" with the Taliban and was "instrumental" in recruiting youths for the militant group, a media report said on Tuesday. The claim about his links to Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan was made to The Express Tribune newspaper by unnamed police officials in Punjab province, a day after US media reported that Davis was working for the CIA as a security contractor.

"The Lahore killings were a blessing in disguise for our security agencies who suspected that Davis was masterminding terrorist activities in Lahore and other parts of Punjab," a senior official of Punjab Police was quoted as saying by the daily.

"His close ties with the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan were revealed during the investigations... Davis was instrumental in recruiting young people from Punjab for the Taliban to fuel the bloody insurgency," the official was quoted as saying.

Call records retrieved from mobile phones found on Davis had allegedly established his links with 33 Pakistanis, including 27 militants from the banned Taliban and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, sources were quoted as saying by the newspaper.

The report claimed Davis was "said to be working on a plan to give credence to the American notion that Pakistan's nuclear weapons are not safe."

It added: "For this purpose, he was setting up a group of the Taliban which would do his bidding."

Former military ruler Pervez Musharraf had cut a secret deal with the US in 2006 to allow clandestine CIA operations in Pakistan, the daily reported.

However, "the government and security agencies were surprised to know that Davis and some of his colleagues were involved in activities that were not spelt out in the agreement," a source told the newspaper.

Davis' job was to trace the links of the Taliban and al-Qaeda in different parts of Pakistan but instead investigators found that he had developed "close links" with the Taliban, the source claimed.

Investigators recovered 158 items from Davis, including a 9mm Glock pistol, 75 bullets, a GPS device, an infrared torch, a wireless set, two mobile phones, a digital camera, a survival kit, five ATM cards and Pakistani and US currency.

The camera had photographs of Pakistani defence installations.

Intelligence officials claimed these items proved that Davis was involved in "activities detrimental to Pakistan's national interests."

Davis was arrested in Lahore on January 27 after he shot and killed two armed men he claimed were trying to rob him.

American newspapers lifted a self-imposed gag on Davis' CIA links on Monday.

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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2011, 11:14:46 AM »
Give him what he deserves. A public beheading.

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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2011, 11:48:10 AM »
Give him what he deserves. A public beheading.

Who made you judge and jury? Some "officials" that have a beef with the US make a claim and you buy it?

If your American, you should be ashamed. That's not how the American justice system works.

Besides, how does a caucasian get so close to those people and them not think he's American? He may be fluent in their languages but I guarantee he's not good enough to cover a US accent.

Is he a US CIA asset? Most likely. And most likely he was caught red-handed stirring up trouble just like the CIA is known for doing, but still your too quick to convict.

Here's the problemI have withthis situation. If tehy know he's CIA in the country messing with terrorists, why didn't they just behead him on the spot and be done with it like so many others? I believe he's still alive because he's a tool in their stage play. And the image they are projecting is not as it appears.

If they really caught that guy, now Pakistan has a real diplomatic problem in their hands. They can't kill the guy and they know it, if he's who they say he is. Not now that they have paraded him all over the media. They got to keep him alive and prove their claims. If that guy dies, their claims go right out the window, and the ones they need to protect him from is not some locals with a beef, but other CIA asssets and he knows it.

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That's the source for the claims. Take it for what it's worth, but don't go asking for the guys head on a platter before you got any real details.
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2011, 12:03:12 PM »
U.S. Admits: ‘Diplomat’ in Pakistan Jail Actually Works for CIA

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/02/u-s-admits-diplomat-in-pakistan-jail-actually-works-for-cia/


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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2011, 12:13:53 PM »
I always wonder when they 'admit' something, was this a rogue CIA agent who was going to blow a whistle?

Hard to believe they would admit to anything really--even if they had a smoking gun over a murder victim when caught.
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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2011, 12:22:08 PM »
I always wonder when they 'admit' something, is the a rogue CIA agent who was going to blow a whistle?

Hard to believe they would admit to anything really--even if they had a smoking gun over a murder victim when caught.

As is the usual with the criminal, unconstitutional MI6/CIA Bush Mafia, this is neither "Observing it happen", nor "Noting it happening", nor "Letting it happen", nor "Making it happen" this is "Doing It".  They've manufactured and are running the whole show - on both sides.

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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2011, 12:31:27 PM »
As is the usual with the criminal, unconstitutional MI6/CIA Bush Mafia, this is neither "Observing it happen", nor "Noting it happening", nor "Letting it happen", nor "Making it happen" this is "Doing It".  They've manufactured and are running the whole show - on both sides.

As hard as it can be to believe sometimes, the fact is they are indeed doing it.
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2011, 12:33:26 PM »
"CIA spy" Davis was giving nuclear bomb material to Al-Qaeda, says report

http://in.news.yahoo.com/cia-spy-davis-giving-nuclear-bomb-material-al-20110219-224833-452.html

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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2011, 01:29:58 PM »
The MSM is owned or controlled by the CIA ( Corruption In Action ) so no real surprise here but it is disheartening to know that any real information will only make it through the filters by accident or a journalist willing to sacrifice their career to tell the truth.

Once the net goes down we will be the voice of the people and if we are being successful we will be sought to be destroyed.

Have any and all info downloaded, saved to disc, so if your PC is attacked you won't lose the proof of this world wide conspiracy.
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Yahoo Bombshell: "CIA spy" Davis was giving nuclear bomb material to Al-CIAduh
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2011, 01:30:17 PM »
"CIA spy" Davis was giving nuclear bomb material to Al-Qaeda, says report
By ANI | ANI – Sun, Feb 20, 2011 12:18 PM
London, Feb 20(ANI): Double murder-accused


US official Raymond Davis has been found in possession of top-secret CIA documents, which point to him or the feared American Task Force 373 (TF373) operating in the region, providing Al-Qaeda terrorists with "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents," according to a report.

Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) is warning that the situation on the sub-continent has turned "grave" as it appears that open warfare is about to break out between Pakistan and the United States, The European Union Times reports.

The SVR warned in its report that the apprehension of 36-year-old Davis, who shot dead two Pakistani men in Lahore last month, had fuelled this crisis.

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 http://in.news.yahoo.com/cia-spy-davis-giving-nuclear-bomb-material-al-20110219-224833-452.html


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Destroying that Islamic oil supply is obviously a big item on the Bush-Gotha/Rothschild/Big Oil/Bankstering agenda.

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http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/206839

Alt. link to above article.

(In case Yahoo shelves it.)

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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2011, 04:31:24 PM »
"CIA spy" Davis was giving nuclear bomb material to Al-Qaeda, says report

http://in.news.yahoo.com/cia-spy-davis-giving-nuclear-bomb-material-al-20110219-224833-452.html


That's a harsh allegation - but I suspected some 'inner dealings' with the people in the region was the core reason for him being where he was.

Check his bank accounts and I bet the answers will be found.
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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2011, 05:03:58 PM »

 If some smuck from Pakistan killed two unarmed American men on our streets, he would get the terrorist treatment, full blown MSM headlines, DHS headings.
 In short screwed blued and tatooed.

  If this guy is not CIA he'l' do till one comes along. According to the info I found, he was Green Beret, then Blackwater, and on to the office- CIA (according to his wife)..
  Ask any CIA station chief what their function is, the rhetoric is ,,only- gathering information..thats it.
Who will buy that?? Thats what their selling, and will not budge on it!
 Sorry to ramble, the short of it.. He killed two unarmed men, whats going to come of this, he is being held for ransom by the big dogs, a titter for tatter. The stumbling block is the people are enraged, that could hinder the process.
Rest assured if in fact he has a mantle of information, gross US$$ Black Cash will be injected for his release. Just an oppinion, but I will bet this guy keeps his trap shut, he is well aware of the consequences if he spills his guts.
 

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Task Force 373can be compared to the Pheonix Progam hit teams.
  (killing is our business and business is good).

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Damn, I hadn't noticed Yahoo was quoting Sorcha  (SVR via EU TImes).

Wow.

I guess they didn't get the memo.

Bombshell is a dud.  Mods, please unpin/delete/retitle/move  -- whatever.

My apologies.

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On  final note, here, the best disinfo is always a mixture of lie and fact.

We know that the U.S. has been responsible for the proliferation of nuclear wepons through Pakistan and Dr. Khan in the past -- both in the form of technology and material.

We know that "al Qaeda" to the extent that it exists is a creature of the Americna intelligence apparatus.

The reason I was so easily taken by all this myself is because of the utter plausibility of this report.

Now, why are MSM sources running this story from such disreputable sources as Sorch Faal?  That is the question everybody should be asking.

What kind of party are they trying to get started?


It's not me, honestly.  Honest mistake I corrected as soon as I recognized it.


There are possibly two things going on here. One is that very real intelligence operations are being covered over or possibly pinned on a scapegoat, Davis.  (very high probability!)

The other is that it is part of a psyop meant to prepare Americans for a believable terrorist attack (possible future fale-flag) by making it look like  "al Qaeda" (who people might not believe could access or purchase nuclear material without some sort of "inside connection") really had managed to get hold of some WMD materials.

And, of course, these two scenarios are not mutually exclusive.

I guess since I was the one to post this article first I felt it was incumbent on me, after writng an appropriate "retraction"  (which Yahoo and those who cite it have yet to do), to try to provide some possible context.

Again, Prison Planet Forum, please accept my apologies.

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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2011, 10:23:13 AM »
US gives fresh details of CIA agent who killed two men in Pakistan shootout

US reveals that CIA agent Raymond Davis worked for private security firm Xe, formerly known as Blackwater

Ewen MacAskill and Declan Walsh
guardian.co.uk, Monday 21 February 2011 21.48 GMT


Raymond Davis, held in Pakistan on double murder charges for a shooting in Lahore last month, is employed by the CIA as a contractor. Photograph: Reuters

US officials have provided fresh details about Raymond Davis, the CIA agent at the centre of a diplomatic stand-off in Pakistan, including confirmation that he had worked for the private security contractor Xe, formerly known as Blackwater. They also disclosed for the first time that he had been providing security for a CIA team tracking militants.

Davis was attached to the CIA's Global Response Staff, whose duties include protecting case officers when they meet with sources. He was familiarising himself with a sensitive area of Lahore on the day he shot dead two Pakistanis.

The New York Times, Washington Post, Associated Press and other media outlets reported for the first time that Davis is a CIA employee. They said they had been aware of his status but kept it under wraps at the request of US officials who said they feared for his safety if involvement with the spy agency was to come out. The officials claimed that he is at risk in the prison in Lahore. The officials released them from their obligation after the Guardian on Sunday reported that Davis was a CIA agent.

Davis shot dead two Pakistanis in Lahore last month who he says had been trying to rob him. A third Pakistani man was killed by a car driven by Americans apparently on their way to rescue Davis.

Confirmation that he worked for Xe could prove even more problematic than working for the CIA, given the extent of hatred towards Blackwater, whose staff have gained a reputation in Pakistan as trigger-happy. For Pakistanis the word "Blackwater" has become a byword for covert American operations targeting the country's nuclear capability. Newspaper reports have been filled with lurid reports of lawless operatives roaming the country.

US officials have reiterated their concern about Lahore's Kot Lakhpat jail where Davis is being held, saying he had been moved to a separate section of the prison, that the guards' guns had been taken away from for fear they might kill him, and that detainees had been previously killed by guards. They are also concerned about protesters storming the prison or that he might be poisoned, and that dogs were being used to taste or smell the food for poison.

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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2011, 10:27:18 AM »
PBS claims to be working on a creative spin of this tale, scheduled for tonight's evening-foundation-propaganda presentation.

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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2011, 10:54:57 AM »
‘Raymond Davis’ Is Linked To Terrorism In Pakistan

- ‘Victims shot in the back repeatedly’
- Interior Ministry has become hub for foreign agents, foreign contractors, India, and Israel
- Interior Ministry at odds with the Pakistani military
- ‘Davis’ used a submachine gun to kill his two victims
- 3rd murder suspects, a 4-man armed rescue team still sought
- US secret contractors were on a ‘mission’ in old part of Lahore

http://www.ahmedquraishi.com/2011/02/08/‘raymond-davis’-is-linked-to-terrorism-in-pakistan/

The Americans, mis-identified by the US Embassy as “diplomats” are believed involved in covert or “black ops” operations inside Pakistan, reportedly against the government of Pakistan, America’s primary ally in the region.
GORDON DUFF And RAJA MUJTABA | Monday | 7 February 2011 | Veterans Today
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Protests throughout the city of Lahore, university students, various political parties, demanded stiff punishment for a group of Americans, one identified initially as “Raymond Allen Davis,” now “identity unknown,” held on a variety of charges including 2 counts of murder along with four American security contractors currently being sought after fleeing the scene of a vehicular homicide in a related incident.

“Davis” is accused of two counts of murder and terrorism related charges.  The other four, named to police but withheld from the media, are being sought for questioning in relation to a vehicular homicide while moving in traffic to assist “Davis.”  The four, though described by Davis and the American press to be “diplomats” are believed to be security contractors who entered Pakistan illegally under assumed identities.

The four not yet in custody, believed to be Americans, fled the scene after killing Ibadur Rehman, a local merchant, during a bizarre incident.
 
The Americans, mis-identified by the US Embassy as “diplomats” are believed involved in covert or “black ops” operations inside Pakistan, reportedly against the government of Pakistan, America’s primary ally in the region.

The victim of the vehicle homicide, Rehman, a bicyclist traveling on Jail Road in Lahore, was struck and killed by a four wheel drive vehicle that was part of what “Davis” describes as a “mission” in his statement to police.

According to the statement, the two vehicles, the Honda rental with “cloned” plates driven by “Davis”  and the “chase vehicle,”  a 4 wheel drive vehicle not registered to the American consulate, containing a 4-man armed security team, were heading toward the Mozang Chungi district.
Mozang Chungi is a densely populated area of small shops and street vendors typically only used by local residents.  Security sources in Pakistan state:

No American tourist or diplomat would ever go there, certainly not two car loads of heavily armed private contractors equipped for a mission of some kind.  The only possible reason to be there would be terrorism.  The area has been attacked before by terrorists, taking advantage of the crowds and confusion.  We suspect we may have stumbled on the source of previous terror attacks and, in fact, broken up what may have become another ‘Mumbai.’
“This is a classic terrorist cover, false identity, phony license plates, car filled with weapons, radios and surveillance gear.”


INTERNAL POLITICAL ISSUES

Pakistan is, itself, governed by contradictions and what most believe to be an ineffective and corrupt civil government led by President Zardari, tied to money laundering in Switzerland, and an Interior Ministry seen as at odds with the powerful military.  Pakistan is a nation of huge economic disparity with extreme wealth held by a few and extreme poverty for the majority, especially tribal minorities that make up a significant portion of Pakistan’s population.

Many Pakistanis long for a return to military government, citing failures by the current President, husband of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, who was assassinated in 2007.

Accusations tying Pakistan’s Interior Ministry to “foreign elements,” US, India and Israel, intelligence agencies and private contractors, accusations alleging complicity in terrorism and money laundering tied to the massive drug trade in neighboring Afghanistan are commonplace.

REAL EVENTS UNCLEAR

“Davis,” in his statement to police, stated he fired in self defense. Weapons were said to be found alongside the bodies of the slain although counter-claims of weapons being “planted” fill the airwaves.

Autopsy results, as reported, indicate that both were shot in the back with special fragmenting anti-personnel ammunition, one receiving four hits to the back and the other three.

Witnesses report that two young Pakistanis were fired on by the American from inside his vehicle with a fully automatic submachinegun, firing through the glass.

Damage to the vehicle, a white Honda Civic, show shots to have been fired through both the passenger window and rear windscreen.
Media in Pakistan has given extensive coverage to the families of the slain, interviewing them and neighbors who indicate the slain had no criminal or “extremist” history and were respected in the community.  In statements to the media, family members have demanded a “public hanging” for those involved, no “blood money” will be accepted.  Islamic or “Sharia” law allows for cash settlements or “blood money” to be paid to family members of homicide victims in lieu of capital punishment or imprisonment.

DIPLOMATIC STATUS DENIED BY PAKISTAN

The man, held by Pakistan in the killing of two young men during a traffic altercation, is not “Raymond Allen Davis.”  In fact, nobody seems to know who he is, including the US embassy in Islamabad.

Davis, and his four companions who have yet to be apprehended, according to police sources, entered Pakistan illegally, using assumed identities.However, stories in the press in Pakistan and general belief by the “man in the street” say that the man being held is believed to be an American security contractor active in coordinating terror attacks inside Pakistan, working with Indian intelligence, the “RAW.”

The area of the city “Davis” and his four companions were driving to has been the repeated scene of terror attacks in this city of 7 million nestled on the Indian border, hundreds of miles from Taliban strongholds.  Sources in Pakistan state that it simply isn’t credible that an American would be in the densely populated and poorest region of Lahore, especially an American with a false identity and rental car with license plates “cloned” from another vehicle 300 miles away.

“DAVIS” UNDER “SEMI-HOUSE ARREST” WITHDRAWN

Authorities in Lahore, Pakistan were allowing “Davis” to spend his nights at the American consulate and his days at a local police station.  But now due to mounting pressures this arrangement has been cancelled. The United States government continues to demand the release of “Davis” though it has also refused to identify him or his associates or state their actual mission in Pakistan.

“Davis” is believed to be a native of Las Vegas, 36 years old with a military background in Special Forces.  An internet search shows him to operate under a “one man” Florida based security company but there is, of yet, no known relationship between this entity and any State Department overseas mission.

A check of passport records show that “Davis” has traveled between Pakistan and Afghanistan 9 times during the past 18 months.

Gordon Duff is a Marine Vietnam veteran, and Senior Editor at Veterans Today. Raja Mujtaba is a retired Major in the Pakistan Army and editor of Opinion Maker and O.M. Center for Policy Studies.
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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2011, 11:17:43 AM »
Gotta just love those Guardian/WaPost MSM sanitized toilet-paper spin jobs....

This is a far more serious, clearly deeper and more suspicious incident, the self defense canard is obvious hogwash.

Maybe they should try "the two terrorists apparently shot each other multiple times in the back in an Islamic suicide pact and then planted their guns on the poor diplomat" /sarc

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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2011, 12:24:05 PM »
Diplomatic Immunity and the Raymond Davis Case
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The shooting to death of two Pakistani youths, namely Faizan Haider and Muhammad Faheem, by a U.S. Consulate official, Raymond Allen Davis, and the death of a third Pakistani, namely Obaid-ur-Rahman, by a vehicle operated by the U.S. Consulate, in Lahore on 27 January 2011 has, once again, raised concerns relating to the conduct of American officials working for the U.S. Embassy and Consulates in Pakistan.

Raymond Davis was arrested by the Punjab Police on the same day and, on 28 January 2011, was presented before a magistrate in Lahore, who remanded him into police custody for six days. On 29 January 2011, three days after the incident, the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad, without even naming Raymond Davis, called for his release whilst claiming that he was a diplomat and was being detained illegally in violation of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, 1961 (the “Vienna Diplomatic Convention”). On 1 February 2011, the Lahore High Court, in response to a public interest petition, restrained Pakistani authorities from handing Raymond Davis over to the U.S. authorities and has ordered his name to be placed on the Exit Control List to prevent him from leaving Pakistan.


It may be pertinent to note that the U.S. Embassy’s press release of 29 January 2011 makes the following, rather surprising, claim:

“On January 27, the diplomat acted in self-defense when confronted by two armed men on motorcycles. The diplomat had every reason to believe that the armed men meant him bodily harm. Minutes earlier, the two men, who had criminal backgrounds, had robbed money and valuables at gunpoint from a Pakistani citizen in the same area.”


One wonders the basis on which the U.S. Embassy is claiming that two of the deceased had criminal backgrounds or had committed any crime. The deceased have not been found guilty of the offence alleged by the U.S. Embassy, either by the investigating police authorities or by any court of law. In making such an unwarranted claim, which is against diplomatic norms and also amounts to unlawful interference in a legal process of a host state in violation of Article 41(1) of the Vienna Diplomatic Convention, the U.S. Embassy has clearly overstepped its bounds.
The press release goes on to say:

“When detained, the U.S. diplomat identified himself to police as a diplomat and repeatedly requested immunity under the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations. Local police and senior authorities failed to observe their legal obligation to verify his status with either the U.S. Consulate General in Lahore or the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad. Furthermore, the diplomat was formally arrested and remanded into custody, which is a violation of international norms and the Vienna [Diplomatic] Convention, to which Pakistan is a signatory.”


It seems that the U.S. Embassy is unaware that when a foreigner is arrested and claims diplomatic immunity, it is not the legal responsibility of the arresting authority, in this case the Punjab Police, to ascertain his diplomatic status; it is the responsibility of the arrested person and his embassy or consulate to establish his diplomatic credentials and the same cannot achieved by orally boasting of diplomatic immunity without any documentary proof. The Vienna Diplomatic Convention does not require states to assume that every foreigner is a diplomat. It is the responsibility of all diplomats to carry on their persons, at all times, their diplomatic identity cards, which are issued by the Foreign Ministry of the host state and to produce the same on demand when required by any government authority, including law enforcement agencies such as the police. The U.S. Embassy has overlooked the fact that Mr. Raymond Davis was arrested from a non-diplomatic vehicle (with non-diplomatic registration plates) and he failed to produce any diplomatic identity card to establish his diplomatic credentials.

Also, the mere holding of a diplomatic passport does not confer diplomatic status on someone. Diplomatic status must be expressly recognized by the host state. For example, a foreign diplomat in India will not be a diplomat in Pakistan. He may visit Pakistan using a diplomatic passport, however, he will have no diplomatic immunity in Pakistan by virtue of his diplomatic passport because he is not a member of any diplomatic mission in Pakistan and has not been recognized as such by Pakistan. Recognition of diplomatic status is expressed through the issuance of a diplomatic identity card to a person by the host state, which, in the case of Raymond Davis, seems to be absent.

Earlier, the U.S. Embassy issued the following press release on 28 January 2011, a day after the arrest and detention of Raymond Davis:

“A staff member of the U.S. Consulate General in Lahore was involved in an incident yesterday that regrettably resulted in the loss of life. The U.S. Embassy is working with Pakistani authorities to determine the facts and work toward a resolution.”


Clearly, there is an inconsistency in the U.S. Embassy’s presses releases of 28 January and 29 January. The U.S. Embassy did not raise the issue of diplomatic immunity a day after the arrest and, in fact, referred to Raymond Davis as being a “staff member of the U.S. Consulate, General in Lahore”. In other words: a consular officer. The U.S. Embassy’s press release of 28 January only reinforced the belief of the Punjab Police and the Punjab Government, and justifiably so, that Mr. Raymond Davis was not a diplomat but a “consular officer” and, as such, not immune from detention and prosecution.


Under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, 1963 (the “Vienna Consular Convention”), consular officers do not enjoy unfettered diplomatic immunity. Article 41 of the Vienna Consular Convention states:

“Consular officers shall not be liable to arrest or detention pending trial, except in the case of a grave crime and pursuant to a decision by the competent judicial authority.”


It is evident that shooting to death of two human beings constitutes “a grave crime” pursuant to the Vienna Consular Convention and Raymond David’s detention is pursuant to a judicial process, having been authorized by a competent judicial authority as per the Vienna Consular Convention.


What needs to be appreciated by the U.S. Embassy is that if a Pakistani national, shoots dead two Americans on the streets of New York using an unlicensed weapon whilst driving a non-diplomatic vehicle and is, subsequently, arrested by the New York police and claims diplomatic immunity without producing any diplomatic ID, will the New York police be bound to release him or keep him detention till such time that he or the Pakistani Consulate in New York establishes his diplomatic credentials? Clearly, the New York police will have the right to detain him till such time.


Therefore, in light of the aforesaid, the arrest of Raymond Davis by the Punjab Police was legal and not in violation of the Vienna Consular Convention or, for that matter, the Vienna Diplomatic Convention (both ratified by Pakistan in its Diplomatic and Consular Privileges Act, 1972). Furthermore, the continued detention of Raymond Davis is not a violation of the Vienna Diplomatic Convention till such time that it is proved that he is a diplomat.


The U.S. Embassy, until now, has failed to establish the diplomatic status of Raymond Davis. Indeed, the evidence so far is to the contrary. A local news channel has shown a letter written by the U.S. Embassy dated 20 January 2010 wherein it is informing Pakistan’s Foreign Ministry that Raymond Davis is a member of the Embassy’s “administrative and technical staff” and requesting for him the issuance of a “non-diplomatic ID” card. This letter clearly shows that the U.S. Embassy itself did not recognize Raymond Davis as a diplomat. It, therefore, seems that the U.S. Embassy’s 29 January 2011 press statement claiming that Raymond Davis is a diplomat is an afterthought intended to shield him from criminal prosecution.


No one should dispute the fact that diplomats are immune from criminal prosecution under the Vienna Diplomatic Convention (Article 31(1)). Even if we were to hypothetically assume, without admitting, that Raymond Davis is a diplomat, there are still options that can be exercised. The Vienna Diplomatic Convention clearly reveals its spirit when it states, in its preamble, that “the purpose of such privileges and immunities is not to benefit individuals but to ensure the efficient performance of the functions of diplomatic missions as representing States.” The Vienna Diplomatic Convention allows foreign states to (i) punish their own diplomats for committing crimes in host countries (Article 31(4)) or (ii) waive the diplomatic immunity of its diplomats so that they can be prosecuted by the host state (Article 32). Therefore, the host state may itself request the foreign state to waive the immunity of a diplomat so that it can prosecute such diplomat
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The Vienna Diplomatic Convention also contains a mechanism under which a diplomat can be stripped of his diplomatic status and immunity by the host state.....

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Kitchen Managers and Secretaries are also "Consular Officials" they are not 'diplomats'...


...talk about overtime work in the lie department  :o

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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2011, 06:59:06 PM »
This murderer needs to be tried and punished for his crimes..........
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Davis was attached to the CIA's Global Response Staff, which provides security overseas to agency bases and stations, former and current U.S. officials told the AP. In that role, he was assigned to protect CIA personnel. One of their duties includes protecting case officers when they meet with sources. On the day he was captured, he was familiarizing himself with the area.

"Davis is a protective officer, someone who provides security to U.S. officials in Pakistan," the U.S official said. "Rumors to the contrary are simply wrong."

In a YouTube video of local police interrogating him, Davis says he's a consultant and he's with the "RAO," a reference to the American Regional Affairs Office. Davis also said at one point he was attached to the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad.
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GORDON DUFF: RAYMOND DAVIS-HILLARY’S DIPLOMATIC THUG

February 18, 2011 posted by Gordon Duff · 95 Comments

HILLARY'S NEW "DIPLOMATS?"
DIPLOMAT, DRUG MULE OR TERRORIST?

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

Diplomats don’t carry guns. They aren’t supposed to drive around in cars, shooting and running people over.

We have seen this behavior a lot recently, part of a pattern of organized banditry, terrorism and mayhem America used to call the Global War on Terror. That war is over, written off as a joke.  The behaviors are there, the killings, the drones, the torture.

We now call it diplomacy and the thugs are “diplomats.”

We can only imagine what they do.  We have seen their parties, gay sex orgies in Kabul.  We have seen the photos from Abu Ghraib.  We have seen the bodies, children, women, the aged, anyone unable to duck gunfire from the window of a Humvee or black Chevy Tahoe.

Now our own State Department claims these thugs are diplomats?  What could they be thinking?  Even the dullest witted mainstream news monkey has to know the reason for America’s bluster.

One of the “holy warriors” used to keep the world aflame has been caught and Hillary Clinton will go to any extreme to cover her tracks.


HILLARY'S NEW "DIPLOMATS?"

What is Raymond Davis?  Does he look like a terrorist?  He certainly quacks like one.  Governments have always given spies “cover” as diplomats.  We see them on TV all the time, the action hero at the embassy ball, tuxedo, champagne glass, continually touching his ear or talking into his sleeve.

They always carry the title of “Cultural Attache” but everyone understands.  That is the movies, fiction, the truth has taken on a nasty turn.

DIPLOMATIC TRAINING ACADEMY CLASSES IN AFGHANISTAN

Two carloads of “Cultural Attaches” blundering through Lahore, a city a million miles from the war or even Pakistan’s government.  Lahore is known for one thing, terror attacks that make no sense at all.  Lahore is a “soft target,” a huge city sitting on the Indian border, far from any Taliban terrorists, far from the seat of government.  Lahore is a city held in the grip of terror by continual bombings that, as we have said before, make no sense.

Raymond Davis has supplied the answer.  His training?  Davis is “black ops.”
...... cont         with disturbing yet darkly humorous pics....

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/02/18/gordon-duff-raymond-davis-hillarys-diplomatic-thug/



The History Of Political Correctness or: Why have things gotten so crazy?

Common sense is not so common.

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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2011, 07:59:14 PM »
This murderer needs to be tried and punished for his crimes..........
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GORDON DUFF: RAYMOND DAVIS-HILLARY’S DIPLOMATIC THUG

February 18, 2011 posted by Gordon Duff · 95 Comments

HILLARY'S NEW "DIPLOMATS?"
DIPLOMAT, DRUG MULE OR TERRORIST?

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

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Two carloads of “Cultural Attaches” blundering through Lahore, a city a million miles from the war or even Pakistan’s government.  Lahore is known for one thing, terror attacks that make no sense at all.  Lahore is a “soft target,” a huge city sitting on the Indian border, far from any Taliban terrorists, far from the seat of government.  Lahore is a city held in the grip of terror by continual bombings that, as we have said before, make no sense.

Raymond Davis has supplied the answer.  His training?  Davis is “black ops.”
...... cont         with disturbing yet darkly humorous pics....

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/02/18/gordon-duff-raymond-davis-hillarys-diplomatic-thug/


yes, the other pic is indeed "darkly" something....

But so was this comment:

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Ian says:
February 18, 2011 at 2:53 pm
You goyim just need to get used to the fact that we own you. We own your government, we own your media and publication industry, we own your financial system, we train your police, your professionals, your teachers and your lawyers. Your military is the right hand of G-d’s people to be used as we see fit and the US, as a bankrupt entity, has no right to complain about it. Like I said, we own you fair and square, you gave it all up willingly a long time ago. You all just need to get used to the fact that you are living in a Jewish world now, and you will submit to our will, which is the will of G-d, or you will die. There is no third choice. We don’t need to pretend anymore. We don’t need to pretend that we care a whit about the blood of the animals which people the goyische vassaldoms of the world. The Tempel has been rebuilt and G-d demands blood sacrifices. What are we supposed to? Disobey G-d? It has been decreed by Rav Shimon ben Yohai: “Even the best of the goyim must be killed.” The time is rapidly appraoching when all will be made to acknowledge the Law, those who don’t are already dead. The only god the goy may lawfully worship is the Jewish people who are their masters, and those who wish attain the fruits of Noachite submission would do well to remember that.

I'm appalled




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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2011, 08:39:09 PM »
yes, the other pic is indeed "darkly" something....

I was referring to the caption being "humorous"

"DIPLOMATIC TRAINING ACADEMY CLASSES IN AFGHANISTAN"

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But so was this comment:

I'm appalled

That comment is pretty bad satire at best and honest at worst....

Heres another good posting with vids including Davis's arrest interrogation.

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DAVIS FOR AAFIA SWAP DEMANDED
“Enclaves of Americans, CIA, Blackwater, “diplomats,” are said to be all over Pakistan.  Webster Tarpley (video below) claims they are recruiting and training terrorists.”

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/02/14/gordon-duff-americas-murderer-diplomat-in-paksitan-a-strange-tale/
The History Of Political Correctness or: Why have things gotten so crazy?

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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2011, 11:06:18 PM »
PBS claims to be working on a creative spin of this tale, scheduled for tonight's evening-foundation-propaganda presentation.

LOL

I can't wait to see what they are going to try to create out of all this.

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« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2011, 12:03:11 AM »
"CIA spy" Davis was giving nuclear bomb material to Al-Qaeda, says report

http://in.news.yahoo.com/cia-spy-davis-giving-nuclear-bomb-material-al-20110219-224833-452.html

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just a heads up...disregard as faal bunk shit.
no more yahoo/ANI news source article links from me.

http://cryptogon.com/?p=20740

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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2011, 12:14:02 AM »
If anybody ever needs to be permanently banned form the internet, it is that idot Booth.

However, his drivel is a necessary evil I suppose.  I guess we have to defend even the CIA's need to spew utter crap when it suits them.

I really wsh there was another way, but I just don't see it.

He really is the most annoying twit and whatever the intelligence agencies are paying him, it's too much.

But there's not a lot of financial accountability among those folks, though eventually that will be part of their UNDOING.

They might want to think about these three letters:  K-G-B.

A lot of these three letter agencies are not going to survive the collapse of the American Empire, and though there will be some new one (SVR, FSB) at least some institutions are going to go BYE-BYE eventually.

As inevitable as sunrise really.

Yo, CIA, analyze this.

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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2011, 05:57:05 AM »
Published on Wednesday, February 23, 2011 by Agence France-Presse

Growing Anger in Pakistan Over US CIA/Blackwater Killings


LAHORE, Pakistan - – New revelations about a CIA contractor in custody for shooting two men dead heaped pressure on Pakistan's fragile government Tuesday and exposed burning public mistrust of Washington.


Activists of Pakistan's outlawed religious party Jamaat-ud Dawa shout slogans during a protest against arrested US national Raymond Davis in Lahore on February 18. The unpopular government in Pakistan is under huge pressure from the political opposition not to cave in to US demands to release Davis, with analysts even warning that the case could bring down the ruling Pakistan People's Party (PPP). (Photo/Arif Ali)

Officials in Washington cited by US media reports confirmed the account of a Pakistani intelligence official, who told AFP that Raymond Davis, the American being held in a prison in Lahore city, was working undercover for the CIA.

Washington is pushing hard for Pakistan's authorities to free Davis, arguing that he has diplomatic immunity and backing his claim to have acted in self-defence when he shot the men in a busy city street nearly four weeks ago.

The foreign ministry has so far refused to define Davis's diplomatic status and a Lahore court last week gave the government another three weeks to do so.

The opposition and relatives of the dead men said it was time for the government to come clean with what it knows of Davis and to address suspicions that he also worked for Xe, a US security firm formerly known as Blackwater.

"Davis deserves no pardon... We knew from day one that he was working for the CIA and Blackwater," said Mohammad Waseem, the brother of the deceased Mohammad Faheem.

"People like Davis have a role in terrorist activities in Pakistan. He should be tried and given the death sentence."

The New York Times on Monday reported that Davis was part of a CIA operation tracking Islamist extremists in eastern Pakistan such as Lashkar-e-Taiba, the virulently anti-Indian group blamed for the bloody 2008 siege of Mumbai.

The newspaper said he "worked for years as a CIA contractor, including time at Blackwater Worldwide". It noted that the company has long been seen by Pakistanis "as symbolizing a culture of American gun-slinging overseas".

"Whether he is a Blackwater or CIA agent the facts should be exposed by the federal government because it is their responsibility," said Pervez Rashid, spokesman for the opposition-controlled Punjab government.

Pakistani police say that after the shooting on January 27, they recovered a Glock pistol, four loaded magazines, a GPS navigation system and a small telescope from Davis's car.

A third Pakistani was struck down and killed by a US diplomatic vehicle that came to his assistance. US officials denied Pakistan access to the vehicle and the occupants are widely believed to have left the country.

Right-wing religious group Jamat-e-Islami, which wants Davis to be hanged for murder, said the courts should be left to adjudicate, but that he should also be now tried for espionage.

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http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/02/23


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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2011, 08:19:25 AM »
Two CIA contractors spirited out of Pakistan


Wed, Feb 23 2011
By Mark Hosenball

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two U.S. citizens with diplomatic status were quietly withdrawn from Pakistan after being involved in a fatal car accident last month while trying to help Raymond Davis, a CIA contractor being held by Pakistani authorities on murder charges.

Two officials familiar with U.S. government activities in Pakistan said the two Americans who left the country worked for the CIA under contract as protective officers. This means they were employed as highly skilled bodyguards, like Davis, for CIA operations officers serving in Pakistan.

The two Americans who left Pakistan have not been otherwise identified by U.S. or Pakistani authorities. The CIA declined to comment.

According to a translated Pakistani police statement obtained by Reuters, the two Americans got into the car crash while trying to go to the aid of Davis, who U.S. sources say claims he shot dead two Pakistanis on a motorcycle when they tried to rob him at gunpoint as he was driving in Lahore.

The police report says the vehicle used by the unidentified Americans, a Landcruiser belonging to the U.S. consulate in Lahore, drove the wrong way down a one-way street.

It struck and killed a motorcyclist named Muhammad Ibad-ur-Rehman, the report said, and "fled from the scene of the incident."

The two U.S. officials confirmed media reports the two men involved in the fatal accident were working and living in the same building in Lahore as Davis. They said all three men were working on similar security assignments for the CIA.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/23/us-pakistan-usa-cia-idUSTRE71M6DF20110223?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews&rpc=76


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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2011, 08:22:55 AM »
Pakistan's intelligence ready to split with CIA

By KATHY GANNON and ADAM GOLDMAN, Associated Press

Wed Feb 23, 5:32 pm ET
 
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan – Pakistan's ISI spy agency is ready to split with the CIA because of frustration over what it calls heavy-handed pressure and its anger over what it believes is a covert U.S. operation involving hundreds of contract spies, according to an internal document obtained by The Associated Press and interviews with U.S. and Pakistani officials.

Such a move could seriously damage the U.S war effort in Afghanistan, limit a program targeting al-Qaida insurgents along the Pakistan frontier, and restrict Washington's access to information in the nuclear-armed country.

According to a statement drafted by the ISI, supported by interviews with officials, an already-fragile relationship between the two agencies collapsed following the shooting death of two Pakistanis by Raymond Davis, a U.S. contracted spy who is in jail in Pakistan facing possible multiple murder charges.

"Post-incident conduct of the CIA has virtually put the partnership into question," said a media statement prepared by the ISI but never released. A copy was obtained this week by the AP.

The statement accused the CIA of using pressure tactics to free Davis.

"It is hard to predict if the relationship will ever reach the level at which it was prior to the Davis episode," the statement said. "The onus of not stalling this relationship between the two agencies now squarely lies on the CIA."

The ISI fears there are hundreds of CIA contracted spies operating in Pakistan without the knowledge of either the Pakistan government or the intelligence agency, a senior Pakistani intelligence official told the AP in an interview. He spoke only on condition he not be identified on grounds that exposure would compromise his security.


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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2011, 08:56:49 AM »
Did Davis double-cross US as recruitment point man for Taliban?

TIMES NEWS NETWORK & AGENCIES, Feb 23, 2011, 08.09am IST

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Did-Davis-double-cross-US-as-recruitment-point-man-for-Taliban-/articleshow/7553226.cms

American official Raymond Davis, arrested for double murder, had "close links" with Taliban and was "instrumental" in recruiting youths for it, the media here claimed on Tuesday, close on the heels of reports in the US that he was a CIA agent tracking movements of terror groups like LeT.

The "close ties" of 37-year-old Davis, arrested in Lahore on January 27 for killing two men he claimed were trying to rob him, with the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan came out during investigations, 'The Express Tribune' reported quoting an unnamed senior official of Punjab Police. "Davis was instrumental in recruiting young people from Punjab for the Taliban to fuel the bloody insurgency (in Pakistan)," the official said.

The report came a day after The NYT, citing US government officials , said that Davis "was part of a covert, CIA-led team of operatives conducting surveillance on militant groups deep inside the country."

Among the groups that Davis was keeping an eye on was the banned LeT, which carried out the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks, the NYT said.

Meanwhile, a Pakistani court accepted the government's request to hold the trial of Davis in the heavilyguarded Kot Lakhpat jail in Lahore , where he is currently lodged, for security reasons.

The Obama administration on Monday insisted that he still has diplomatic immunity under international law and Pakistan should release him forthwith . Soon after, the US state department wheeled out one of its "foremost experts in international law" to make the case that regardless of Davis' reported affiliation, he was entitled to diplomatic immunity because the US had clearly intimated to Pakistani government that he is a member of the administrative and technical staff under Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.

Sources also said that Pakistan had been told he is an intelligence operative working undercover


Read more: Did Davis double-cross US as recruitment point man for Taliban? - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Did-Davis-double-cross-US-as-recruitment-point-man-for-Taliban-/articleshow/7553226.cms#ixzz1Estogj5j

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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2011, 09:24:43 AM »
"CIA spy" Davis was giving nuclear bomb material to Al-Qaeda, says report

http://in.news.yahoo.com/cia-spy-davis-giving-nuclear-bomb-material-al-20110219-224833-452.html

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just a heads up...disregard as faal bunk shit.
no more yahoo/ANI news source article links from me.

http://cryptogon.com/?p=20740

So what is this "cryptagon"? Some dufuss named Kevin Flaherty in New Zealand?

I just did a search on Yahoo for author ANI stories and they are all from India, (oh how embarrassing)

Strange - these are other "ANI stories" on Yahoo India:
http://in.news.search.yahoo.com/search?p=ANI&fr=ush-news

None of them seem to be "Sorcha Faal" posts, so how could this debunker stooge in New Zealand contribute anything to this discussion?

None of the ANI sourced stories seem to be from 22 Mattheson Rd in Antrim NH  LOL :o

Very odd indeed this strange link on the Copyright Kevin Flaherty site that originates from some "G-dly Dream Revelation" of his?

So now the "magic words" Sorcha Faal  and a link to a search for "22 Mattheson Rd" are all one needs to dismiss a news tip from India?

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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2011, 09:30:05 AM »
Who made you judge and jury? Some "officials" that have a beef with the US make a claim and you buy it?

If your American, you should be ashamed. That's not how the American justice system works.

Besides, how does a caucasian get so close to those people and them not think he's American? He may be fluent in their languages but I guarantee he's not good enough to cover a US accent.

Is he a US CIA asset? Most likely. And most likely he was caught red-handed stirring up trouble just like the CIA is known for doing, but still your too quick to convict.

Here's the problemI have withthis situation. If tehy know he's CIA in the country messing with terrorists, why didn't they just behead him on the spot and be done with it like so many others? I believe he's still alive because he's a tool in their stage play. And the image they are projecting is not as it appears.

If they really caught that guy, now Pakistan has a real diplomatic problem in their hands. They can't kill the guy and they know it, if he's who they say he is. Not now that they have paraded him all over the media. They got to keep him alive and prove their claims. If that guy dies, their claims go right out the window, and the ones they need to protect him from is not some locals with a beef, but other CIA asssets and he knows it.

As it is highlighted...

That's the source for the claims. Take it for what it's worth, but don't go asking for the guys head on a platter before you got any real details.

If Mr. Davis is knowingly living the lie he will spill his guts soon enough to save his own ars and another paid for government shill will be hung out to dry.
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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2011, 09:53:01 AM »
Did Davis double-cross US as recruitment point man for Taliban?

TIMES NEWSpropaganda NETWORK & AGENCIES, Feb 23, 2011, 08.09am IST
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Did-Davis-double-cross-US-as-recruitment-point-man-for-Taliban-/articleshow/7553226.cms

The Obama administration on Monday insisted that he still has diplomatic immunity under international law and Pakistan should release him forthwith . Soon after, the US state department wheeled out one of its "foremost experts in international law" to make the case that regardless of Davis' reported affiliation, he was entitled to diplomatic immunity because the US had clearly intimated to Pakistani government that he is a member of the administrative and technical staff under Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.

Sources also said that Pakistan had been told he is an intelligence operative working undercover


Aside from Pakistan being clearly informed he was merely a "consular office-janitor" (to be let in the gate) as the record of the "letter written by the U.S. Embassy dated 20 January 2010 wherein it is informing Pakistan’s Foreign Ministry that Raymond Davis is a member of the Embassy’s “administrative and technical staff” and requesting for him the issuance of a “non-diplomatic ID” card." clearly shows, wouldn't any "undercover US operative in Pakistan" - at the very least be a brown person or be wearing some makeup?

How stupid are we all supposed to be here? What was this assault rifle packing white dude in Lahore supposed to be "posing" as, a VOFW or US Marine Corp recruiter?

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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2011, 10:42:14 AM »
So what is this "cryptagon"? Some dufuss named Kevin Flaherty in New Zealand?

I just did a search on Yahoo for author ANI stories and they are all from India, (oh how embarrassing)

Strange - these are other "ANI stories" on Yahoo India:
http://in.news.search.yahoo.com/search?p=ANI&fr=ush-news

None of them seem to be "Sorcha Faal" posts, so how could this debunker stooge in New Zealand contribute anything to this discussion?

None of the ANI sourced stories seem to be from 22 Mattheson Rd in Antrim NH LOL :o

Very odd indeed this strange link on the Copyright Kevin Flaherty site that originates from some "G-dly Dream Revelation" of his?

So now the "magic words" Sorcha Faal  and a link to a search for "22 Mattheson Rd" are all one needs to dismiss a news tip from India?


eh,i dunno,i find cryptogon to be a pretty dependable blog.

but anyhows,i went right to the usual source for all sorcha faal stuff...

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1448.htm (the 1st and last time i link to this site)

it's dated feb 11th...by "sorcha faal"..that's all i'm sayin.

as far as ani as a news source...i'd honestly,never heard of em..but after looking up "ANI news agency"in google
it yeilded the top teir result..instead of my initial "ANI" search..where it was like 6 results down.
what can i say,i'm a lame googler sometimes.

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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2011, 11:37:53 AM »

eh,i dunno,i find cryptogon to be a pretty dependable blog.

but anyhows,i went right to the usual source for all sorcha faal stuff...

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1448.htm (the 1st and last time i link to this site)

it's dated feb 11th...by "sorcha faal"..that's all i'm sayin.

as far as ani as a news source...i'd honestly,never heard of em..but after looking up "ANI news agency"in google
it yeilded the top teir result..instead of my initial "ANI" search..where it was like 6 results down.
what can i say,i'm a lame googler sometimes.


Well no I didn't mean anything by it, this Faal article is a different compendium of reports of which it appears the ANI article is a prominent "shared or stolen headline" theme. His article also includes other embellishments beyond that, and the story seems to be being cleverly spun.

First we get they robbed him and he shot them in the back, then they blocked him off and 10 shots and 3 more outside the car, then 7 and they were following him, it's obvious that it's being massaged. The third homicide is unforgivable and clearly a US embassy-criminal act. So who is already obstructing justice and already telling lies here and why?

Even broken clocks occasionally tell the right time, is all I'm saying.

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Re: Media Blackout: Media blackout over: Davis is Covert CIA Operative
« Reply #39 on: February 24, 2011, 12:03:36 PM »
If it was just an innocent gangland dustup involving a mercenary employee why desperately connive diplomatically, why pull out the accomplices and co defendants, why not charge the vehicular manslaughter driver, why admit he was involved in spying, and why send a US Senator to desperately try to get them to spring him? Obviously the cover is blown forever so it must involve the evidence.

The belated claim he had a 'diplomatic-class of passport" (which would still be irrelevant and meaningless, when he had yet to have been even granted a lowly "mission-worker id card - visa" by this host country) is also apparently a lie.