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« on: February 09, 2011, 10:28:45 PM » |
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2011, 11:34:43 PM » |
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Interesting.
After the Club of Rome I had to research who exactly these assholes were.
Over a number of years I traced these SOB's, really, predating Babylon.
It's a cast society who will burn their own for whatever the reason. This is why the bush leaguers are constantly hiring history scholars to trace their family to Roman nobility and, other such things like that.
If there was ever an annoying religion this one takes the cake. That, and they really are bunch of assholes.
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2011, 05:29:42 AM » |
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Anyone who knows an ounce about "Satanism" as defined by the church of Satan , knows that no satanist would ever abuse anyone. Every case from the "Satanic Panic" was thrown out of court due to complete lack of evidence.
Hysterics. many "good" religious people abuse others daily , why not call what they do (add any religion) ritual abuse..?
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2011, 05:37:54 AM » |
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Anyone who knows an ounce about "Satanism" as defined by the BIBLE, knows that he (Satan) is a LIAR, MURDERER and DECIEVER.
And that his greatest triumph is making people believe that he doesent exist.
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2011, 06:31:43 AM » |
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Anyone who knows an ounce about "Satanism" as defined by the church of Satan , knows that no satanist would ever abuse anyone. Every case from the "Satanic Panic" was thrown out of court due to complete lack of evidence.
Hysterics. many "good" religious people abuse others daily , why not call what they do (add any religion) ritual abuse..?
Because this is a thread about those who are Satan worshippers who do abuse. 
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2011, 08:36:48 AM » |
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Just viewed them - great job! If anything, THIS is what Christians really need to be educated on, imho. It's really saved my tail.
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John_Back_From_The_Club_O
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2011, 09:32:57 AM » |
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Anyone who knows an ounce about "Satanism" as defined by the church of Satan , knows that no satanist would ever abuse anyone. Every case from the "Satanic Panic" was thrown out of court due to complete lack of evidence.
Hysterics. many "good" religious people abuse others daily , why not call what they do (add any religion) ritual abuse..?
First of all, the "church" of Satan(ism) is a bush league joke when comparing it to the order. Why would satanic abuse cases be thrown out of court? Who do you think runs the courts? Did you know, at one time it was very, very difficult to get a judge appointment in the USA UNLESS you were a (or soon to be) 33rd degree Mason?
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2011, 09:43:04 AM » |
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Anyone who knows an ounce about "Satanism" as defined by the church of Satan , knows that no satanist would ever abuse anyone. Every case from the "Satanic Panic" was thrown out of court due to complete lack of evidence.
Hysterics. many "good" religious people abuse others daily , why not call what they do (add any religion) ritual abuse..?
yeah i second the post above. "anyone who knows anything" about satanism knows the church of satan and the satanic bible are "satanic worship lite". Exposing the iIlluminati from within Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmmr4xmZ3qs&playnext=1&list=PL4672DB4A993FC3E9
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John_Back_From_The_Club_O
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2011, 09:52:03 AM » |
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Not even all 33 degree Mason's are 'in the club', so to speak. To be a 'ranking' member you have to be born into it. The further back your family has been 'joined' (as THEY say) the more status you have in the order. Then you get into who is related to who and it goes up from there. THEY believe that there still exists the direct BLOOD lines of Satan himself. Those families identity is kept secret even to some of the highest raking order members.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2011, 10:08:11 AM » |
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Edit: John_O I saw the judge comment and wowee that is scary
Go to your local court house and look for the 'corner stone' you 'should see the masonic square and compass stamped on it. I have not seen a court house yet that doesn't have one or a key stone dedication.
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2011, 10:58:15 AM » |
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The point is every member of any bullshit religion (read as all religions) abuse people. And since there are way less "Satanists" the occurrence of abuse among every other religious group is more.
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2011, 11:40:52 AM » |
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The point is every member of any bullshit religion (read as all religions) abuse people. And since there are way less "Satanists" the occurrence of abuse among every other religious group is more.
The satanist order has not only infiltrated EVERY religion (I found even the Tibetan monks) but some insist is ran at the top by them. Mainly the Roman Catholic, Talmudic Judaism and the Islamic religions. 'Abuse' can occur within a family. Not all abuse is 'created' equal. Not when you have 'organized' abuse.
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2011, 11:44:13 AM » |
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The point is every member of any bullshit religion (read as all religions) abuse people. And since there are way less "Satanists" the occurrence of abuse among every other religious group is more.
yeah well there's a difference between teaching people to "turn the other cheek" and demanding human sacrifices. satanism is sick sh**, if you don't realize that you are a blissful ignorant.
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2011, 03:07:24 PM » |
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yeah , I don't doubt that powerful people abuse others. My doubt comes in when people try to prop up "Satanism" as the reason for it. The actual reason for abuse is sickness and ego gratification. Satanism is the false paradigm knee jerk reaction that so many people attach their fears to. Satan is the christian boogey man , the USAMA to the USA Zeitgeist. So it's just kind of ...retarded to keep buying that BS.
Telling me about what religion is right is like telling me your favorite color is the best , but all the other colors are wrong. You see it's all just very based on perceptions geography and personal bias.
Religions are all equal , one cannot be better than another , no matter what scary fear tactics you might attach to any of them.....they're either all true or all false , favorite colors , can you logically prove one color is better than the next?
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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2011, 03:14:21 PM » |
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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2011, 03:22:12 PM » |
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yeah , I don't doubt that powerful people abuse others. My doubt comes in when people try to prop up "Satanism" as the reason for it. The actual reason for abuse is sickness and ego gratification. Satanism is the false paradigm knee jerk reaction that so many people attach their fears to. Satan is the christian boogey man , the USAMA to the USA Zeitgeist. So it's just kind of ...retarded to keep buying that BS.
Telling me about what religion is right is like telling me your favorite color is the best , but all the other colors are wrong. You see it's all just very based on perceptions geography and personal bias.
Religions are all equal , one cannot be better than another , no matter what scary fear tactics you might attach to any of them.....they're either all true or all false , favorite colors , can you logically prove one color is better than the next?
yeah i guess a religion that advocates murder is just as good for society as a religion that doesn't, that's a good point. /sarcasm. satanic church is infamous for ego massage by the way, and christianity despises the ego. pride is a trait of satan "leviathon".
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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2011, 03:26:29 PM » |
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Really point me to some "Satanic" works that advocate death? You really should also look into the idea that living forever in heaven is the pursuit of the highest order of self and ego/identity preservation.
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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2011, 03:37:39 PM » |
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Really point me to some "Satanic" works that advocate death? You really should also look into the idea that living forever in heaven is the pursuit of the highest order of self and ego/identity preservation.
nah, they are too well hidden. all of the higher levels of satanism/masonry are. of course if it such a huge secret i'm sure it's all just rainbows and butterflies. just look at lady gaga if you want to see the theatrical representation of human sacrifice. of course gaga didn't write the satanic bible so i'm sure you'll tell me they are completely unrelated. ignorance is bliss after all. and i'd like to stay on the topic of this life as it is the one where these abuses occur, thanks.
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2011, 04:40:26 PM » |
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Crowley was not a Satanist , he was something else.
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« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2011, 04:42:41 PM » |
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nah, they are too well hidden. all of the higher levels of satanism/masonry are. of course if it such a huge secret i'm sure it's all just rainbows and butterflies.
just look at lady gaga if you want to see the theatrical representation of human sacrifice. of course gaga didn't write the satanic bible so i'm sure you'll tell me they are completely unrelated. ignorance is bliss after all.
and i'd like to stay on the topic of this life as it is the one where these abuses occur, thanks.
There is nothing in the Satanic bible about human or animal sacrifices.
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« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2011, 05:20:01 PM » |
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There is nothing in the Satanic bible about human or animal sacrifices.
yeah, i know there isn't. like i said earlier the satanic bible is to draw noobs in without scaring them away. then gradually they are introduced to more bizarre doctrine. the information is not readily available to anyone who wants it, like the bible. you ask a christian about christianity, and they will tell you everything they know about it. you ask a satanist about satanism, they may give you a status quo answer, but they will not reveal their deepest inner workings. but if you want to assume all the hidden knowledge is just cupcakes and lollipops, that's your choice. as for me, i believe it's hidden for a REASON. i.e. if the lay man was told what it was he would vomit in disgust. but someone who's been indoctrinated gradually over the years will look at it as business as usual.
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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2011, 05:27:21 PM » |
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The satanist order has not only infiltrated EVERY religion (I found even the Tibetan monks) but some insist is ran at the top by them. Mainly the Roman Catholic, Talmudic Judaism and the Islamic religions.
'Abuse' can occur within a family. Not all abuse is 'created' equal. Not when you have 'organized' abuse.
I'm not saying every church in America is like this, but who knows how many pastors and deacons have ties to the Freemasons/Jesuits in our present day. And of course, there's this Purpose Driven movement - Rick Warren claims to be a Southern Baptist, but he largely preaches Roman Catholicm(and New Age, of course). The people he recommended in his PDL are largely Catholics and New Agers(one of them being Huxley, the guy that wrote "A Brave New World"). Anyhow - I'm just starting to find out things about my former pastor in my previous city I had NO IDEA about. Back in 2007 when he gave a radio interview, the interviewer asked him what is that blessed hope, and part of his response was "dawning of a new day"  , without even mention Jesus Christ once. And a week ago, I ran into an article talking about all the interfaith ministers in that city - not only he happened to be one of them, but he also is the CHAIRMAN of this group. I mean the WHOLE time, the seminary President and all of the Baptist leaders et al in that city(including one who includes preachings of wolves in sheep's clothing at his church) just turned a BLIND EYE to this? I remember the seminary President just RAVING about this guy(ie-he praised him for keeping the church at unity all these years, unlike the average pastor supposedly). Anyways, no, I'm not trying to say every single church is America is rotten, but we really have to be watchful, alert, and prayerful over this when we choose a church to attend. IMHO, the big red flag over a pastor is when people, including the community, really puffs him up(ie-this pastor has received community leadership awards, which is unbiblical). For the most part, pastors, especially the good ones, tend to fly under the radar within their own pews.
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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2011, 05:37:20 PM » |
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Theosophy is not "Satanic" either. In fact Satan is no more real than the God of the bible , which is only the ying to Satans yang. And the "Satanic bible" is the only text that "satanists" would use , so their wouldn't be other "doctrines" introduced...yup , Christianity needs Satan. Otherwise no need for the rest of that pablum.
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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2011, 05:50:01 PM » |
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well i've heard former members of the church of satan testify that they are recommended to join free masonry, which in it's higher levels taught vampirism and lycanthropy, and who knows what else. you don't know what doctrines are and aren't taught, they wont tell you unless you are already neck deep in it. but the fact is you can't prove satan doesn't exist any more than i can prove he does, so we can (and have)  go all day on this. but through my experiences i know the spiritual world is there, and you have rejected it for whatever reason. i will be sure to lift you up in my prayers.
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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2011, 05:55:16 PM » |
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I only reject group understanding of God. I have knowledge and personal experience of God with a personal relationship. I just know that god is not found beyond that personal knowledge in books and so forth , what is found in books is the same perceptions we can all apply to knowing God. Written by regular men attempting to describe an experience , too many mistake that for the experience itself.
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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2011, 05:59:40 PM » |
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so do you do your will or gods ?
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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2011, 06:25:47 PM » |
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Corporate Levitican Fascists, Corporate Constantinian Fascists, and Corporate Mohammedan Fascists all worship a vile, selfish, hypocritical, terrorist god-duo consisting of a single-bachelor gay male hell owning warlord on a throne-god in a lovely gated afterlife-retirement community AND his ugly gay male dungeon-master boyfriend-god who (sells and) runs his cuter, older boyfriend's vile torture-underworld hell-hole.
These two proprietary, copyrighted©, equal, gay-male terrorist gods have been a very lucrative tribal mafia corporate Amun-noble slave manual dogma that's a wonder for their varied Templar Soul Wash™ enterprises and franchises, based upon both ancient noble Egyptian and ancient noble Babylonian noble cult-dogma corporate beast charter-models.
To the corporate sadducees and pharisees it's a (gay) "marriage" made (for them) in "heaven"!
You can't have one without the other.
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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2011, 07:39:46 PM » |
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-for abuses point- More child molesters are Christian than any other singularly identifiable religious group. The largest identifiable profession for child molesters is government employees. concluded opinion: "America is a Christian Nation" government would be baaaaad. The soooo scary "Devil Horns!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc1wRp9PXPYwhen you give politicians a "thumbs up" they do it back too. Oh noes! Isn't that the evil Roman sign for "killing?!?!" "do what thou wilst" expression (sex, drugs, rock 'n roll) v. repression (religion) I don't think I could type out all that would be required for you to understand all of what Crowley was saying in your vid. This is all stuff they believe: In occultism whole concepts are condensed into a symbol. Like hieroglyphics. The serpent is the image of the snake eating its tale and this image is about the process of existence eating itself to continue existing. You can think about it this way: you are made of star stuff, if you ever heard Carl Sagan's thing on this, in the "death of stars" and recombining of itself existence has made you. (I'm trying here, don't be to harsh) It's talked about as the devil, lucifer, you know the names, the light, and all that goes into this idea that everything is formed in stars first; maybe there is a giant star in the center that started all the stars, and that life is sustained by death, and so on. You can see how you can take that pretty far out. Remember a simple way of using this idea is that the plants that die on the ground get broken down and nourish the new living plants. The circle of life view taken out into the stars. Where they called the heavens/ heaven. In the fire too. The symbols describe processes and putting them in the right order is like "decoding the manual." You may ask yourself, "a manual to what?" That's a good question. It's all about determining your (your meaning your own, not they are determining where you are) position/ POV/ "if everything is spinning like crazy where exactly am "I" in all this?" And that's most of the knowledge they seek, that "elusive source of "I"." Baphomet position is that letter "Aleph" which indicates "as above so below." In Hebrew the letters are also symbols, and numbers I think, and so there's supposed to be other ways to read thing written in it. And it's hard to get at the facts on this, but I think the goat head is for fertility. The thunderbolt is the spark of life. Like, there would be no life without lightning (association with "light" implied in word used to describe it) Not very evil. They believe the processes are all macrocosm/ microcosm, see^, so the spark of life is in the heavens, on earth, and inside each person. The eye thing, honestly, I kinda just think they're f****ng with y'all at this point... the furthest back you can find it with a description that applies to "the occult" is ancient Egypt, where it was used to indicate which way you were supposed to be reading the hieroglyphics; by using the teachings of the left eye or the right eye of Horus. The "mystery school teachings" are supposed to be divided by it. Depending on how you read the texts you're either reading the formation/ workings of the heavens/ the mind, or the formation/ workings of the earth/ the body. "Let the Eye of Horus come forth from the god and shine outside his mouth." "I shall see the Gods and the Eye of Horus burning with fire before my eyes." The Pyramid Texts Obvious reference to the sun. You might wonder why they called the sun an eye, but if you didn't know better, you'd be left knowing that you need eyes to see light. It gets crazier later when you start on the "I see stuff in my thoughts and in dreams" and that's how you start on the journey of the occult. The whole light and burning with fire is always related. Hence the light and the fire and the eye and the devil get put together. They see it like, when people put a persona/ jesus (not being picky) in place of the sun then man started to look to the ego instead of to nature, which to them is like exactly backwards of how they think things should be. Like, they think Christians are the real devil worshipers because they worship what Christians themselves describe as the devil, which is the ego. The light of enlightenment, the light comes to you, the light guides you, blah blah, the stars, the light- your intellect- Satan. The 1920's occult symbology, now that's what I'm talking about. You want to get freaky all with ancient aliens and occultist views of the future, living forever, traveling the stars, becoming a god. The whole ancient man was witness to a technology so highly advanced that they could hardly describe it. The gods that had the technology helped them and bred with them, and that goes a lot of places. And, They have a secret and an agenda, and vast human and material resources, and technology... The evil light satan intellect sun god become like god code of DNA receiving light intellect satan bloodline ancient secret order secret technology star travel like the gods line that you can draw straight through history. It's almost like they were gonna tell us, then went, "naahhh, the religious ones will freak out and murder us all. We'll never get control" And then presented it as fiction to slowly migrate people into the plan of becoming like the sun gods. Hey, just today there was an article picked up by Infowars and a bunch of news sites about immortality arriving in 35 years through computers and cybernetics.
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« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2011, 09:00:07 PM » |
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so do you do your will or gods ?
One can only do God's will as a perfect creator who knows all , that will cannot be usurped. That's why Satan is needed by Christianity's "God" , because his will is to play this game of sin/salvation punishment/ reward that is only to distract us from a more unique and relevant experience , that of the personal experience. @John Death and "Satansim" are not synonymous either. A Death cult is not decidedly "Satanic".
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