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February 9, 2011 5:00 AM Sizing Up the 2012 GOP Presidential ContendersPosted by Robert Hendin, Jill Jackson, Brian Montopoli To the casual observer, it may seem early to be sizing up the 2012 Republican presidential field. But despite the fact that only one hopeful has announced plans to run thus far - that would be former Godfather's Pizza CEO and relative unknown Herman Cain - likely candidates have been working feverishly behind the scenes to lay the groundwork for a credible run at the GOP nomination. They've been lining up staff, speaking to key constituencies in early voting states like Iowa, South Carolina and New Hampshire, raising their profile through media appearances, and building the fundraising networks crucial to emerge from what will likely be a crowded primary field. This week, many of these potential candidates are gathering in Washington for the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), where they will test their message in speeches to thousands of party activists from around the country. For a second-tier potential candidate, CPAC is a prime opportunity to show they can galvanize the base; for a top-tier contender, it's a chance to shore up support among their core constituencies and make a case to the skeptics. Pictures of candidates and obviously showing their CBS biased comments on each one here: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20031106-503544.html
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2011, 08:34:10 AM » |
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Doesn't matter what we want, they've already made up their minds on who gets the nod AND the job. Nothing short of revolution can change the cards now.
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The resistance starts here. Unfortunately, the entire thing is moving beyond the intellectual infowar. I vow I will not make an overt rush at violent authority, until authority makes it's violent rush at me and you. I will not falter, I will not die in this course. For that is how they win.
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2011, 07:25:52 PM » |
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It is really not looking good.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2011, 07:35:17 PM » |
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Doesn't matter what we want, they've already made up their minds on who gets the nod AND the job. Nothing short of revolution can change the cards now.
I agree - either they will fill the GOP candidates with a bunch of rotten apples ala 1996, just enough to get the masses to think Obama "is the lesser of 2 evils", OR, from here on out, they will do everything to humiliate and expose Obama, to the point where they'll get one of these rotten apples in ala Mitt Romney or Sarah Palin. And also to note, what IF this rumored nuke FF never passes by election time 2012? At the very least, Obama will have this "I kept this country safe for 4 years" slogan, which will be good enough in the eyes of the masses. Worked for Bush II in 2004.
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2011, 07:37:48 PM » |
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I agree - either they will fill the GOP candidates with a bunch of rotten apples ala 1996, just enough to get the masses to think Obama "is the lesser of 2 evils", OR, from here on out, they will do everything to humiliate and expose Obama, to the point where they'll get one of these rotten apples in ala Mitt Romney or Sarah Palin.
And also to note, what IF this rumored nuke FF never passes by election time 2012? At the very least, Obama will have this "I kept this country safe for 4 years" slogan, which will be good enough in the eyes of the masses. Worked for Bush II in 2004.
You forgot a scenario; the nuke FF takes place, they declare martial law, and Obama(or whoever is left post nuke) usurps power past the election.
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The resistance starts here. Unfortunately, the entire thing is moving beyond the intellectual infowar. I vow I will not make an overt rush at violent authority, until authority makes it's violent rush at me and you. I will not falter, I will not die in this course. For that is how they win.
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2011, 08:00:33 PM » |
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man, Romney is placed as a frontrunner (what with Palin depressing everyone, and Huckabee giving speeches in favor of Hosni Mubarak), but Romney is so slick. He just bought a house in La Jolla, CA (very wealthy coastal city) and his kids all do sort of elitist stuff. All he has going for him is that he isn't fascist.
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2011, 06:53:04 AM » |
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Herman Cain is a very smart man (BS in mathematics and a Masters in computer science). Being smart makes him ineligible to become president of the USA (these days anyway).
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2011, 07:51:32 AM » |
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2011, 12:58:22 PM » |
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Won't matter. Obama will get a 2nd term and in 2016 a Republican saviour will be put in... and the beat goes on.
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"What a bunch of garbage, Liberal, Democratic, Conservative, Republican, it's all there to control you, two sides of the same coin! Two management teams, bidding for control of the CEO job of Slavery Incorporated!" Alex
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2011, 01:09:40 PM » |
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Doesn't matter what we want, they've already made up their minds on who gets the nod AND the job. Nothing short of revolution can change the cards now. But if a critical mass of people don't soon unite across both party and ideological lines behind an agreed-upon policy agenda, then instead of a " revolution," all we'll get is a series of IMF riots (which is exactly what the ruling elite are counting on), followed by a police state crackdown. http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=198869.msg1186201#msg1186201 (What's an IMF riot? Is it not "resistance" without a POLICY AGENDA?)
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2011, 01:20:30 PM » |
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One problem we will have is the amount of factions who would angle for power during a revolution. Some of those very factions are far worse than what we are dealing with now. We will unfortunately be fighting amongst those factions as much as we will be fighting the government. So no matter what happens, its going to be disorganized. A united front is something I do not think the American people can put forth anymore. There are simply too many divisions. If a revolution were to break out, there would be a united front for a unknown period of time. However as things got tough, as the reality of the situation began to reveal itself, people would fall to the wayside, factions would emerge, and infighting would result. A perfect world with perfect scenarios, this ain't.
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The resistance starts here. Unfortunately, the entire thing is moving beyond the intellectual infowar. I vow I will not make an overt rush at violent authority, until authority makes it's violent rush at me and you. I will not falter, I will not die in this course. For that is how they win.
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2011, 01:25:45 PM » |
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A united front is something I do not think the American people can put forth anymore. As long as people continue to blindly assume this so that they have a convenient excuse for not even trying to unite, it will continue to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. That's called being one's own worst enemy.
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2011, 01:28:42 PM » |
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I'm willing to bet there will not be any food riots in the US & a critical mass of people won't soon unite across both party and ideological lines behind an agreed-upon policy agenda, either. The western revolution won't be televised because it won't happen. Sorry, pretty pessimistic as I've been hearing the same stuff for too long.
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"What a bunch of garbage, Liberal, Democratic, Conservative, Republican, it's all there to control you, two sides of the same coin! Two management teams, bidding for control of the CEO job of Slavery Incorporated!" Alex
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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2011, 01:33:24 PM » |
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If my hunch is correct, he or some rich elitist like him will run as a so-called "independent," and thereby preemptively steal the thunder from genuine independent candidates. A chess move if ever I saw one.
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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2011, 01:51:51 PM » |
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As long as people continue to blindly assume this so that they have a convenient excuse for not even trying to unite, it will continue to be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
That's called being one's own worst enemy.
Oh do beleive me, It's not an excuse in my book, I'm just fed up with all the preaching, and nobody listening. Or people having their own agendas, to hell with the rest of us. It's me verbalizing my frustrations at the stupid slobbering masses who don't give two shits. It's me verbalizing the frustration of some people who would rather blather all day long about, "I know this, I know that, but I won't act." How many of the intellectual types on this board have actually gone out and ran for a government position, rather than just talked about the ones who do? A libertarian think tank only goes so far up to a certain point. At some point the more apt and appropriate persons within a think tank environment need to step up and actually do something constructive. To those who are shaking their heads thinking "here we go, revolution talk...". No. I'm suggesting that we all know whats going on, but all we do is push information back and forth, rehash the some information a thousand times, and cut and paste that information ad nauseum, but we never act on it, take up root in local government, and try to move OUR agenda forward from a grass roots level. There's an old saying, "those who can't, teach." I'm tired of teaching and nobody of substance listening.
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The resistance starts here. Unfortunately, the entire thing is moving beyond the intellectual infowar. I vow I will not make an overt rush at violent authority, until authority makes it's violent rush at me and you. I will not falter, I will not die in this course. For that is how they win.
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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2011, 05:34:30 PM » |
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Or they may get some "young hotshot" guy noone's heard of(Ivy League grad, sold out his soul, etc, etc).
Remember Bill Clinton - noone's heard of the guy until he came out of left field nowhere. Of course, the NWO groomed him years before, but the American masses outside of Arkansas had no idea about him.
That's my best guess now - there's someone the NWO is quietly grooming.
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2011, 07:31:26 PM » |
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Or they may get some "young hotshot" guy noone's heard of(Ivy League grad, sold out his soul, etc, etc).
That's the exact description of Obama... they have their guy in place.
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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2011, 07:21:21 AM » |
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Romney takes major step toward presidential runFormer Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, the closest to a front-runner in a wide-open Republican field, took a major step toward a second White House candidacy Monday, formally announcing a campaign exploratory committee. Romney declared that "with able leadership, America's best days are still ahead," vigorously asserting that President Barack Obama had failed to provide it. The Republican, who has been plotting a comeback since losing the GOP presidential nomination to John McCain three years ago, offered himself as the person best able to lead a country struggling to recover from economic crisis. "It is time that we put America back on a course of greatness with a growing economy, good jobs and fiscal discipline in Washington," Romney, a former venture capitalist with a record of turning around failing companies, said in a video posted on his website and on Facebook. He also announced the formation of the committee, which will allow him to raise money, in a Twitter message. Romney's move had been expected and a full-fledged campaign is a near certainty. He has traveled across the country to meet in private with donors and sound out their support. His political committee's headquarters near Boston has been bulking up. And in his few public appearances, he has honed his criticism of Obama. rest: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110412/ap_on_el_ge/us_romney2012
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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2011, 07:35:07 AM » |
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If my hunch is correct, he or some rich elitist like him will run as a so-called "independent," and thereby preemptively steal the thunder from genuine independent candidates.
A chess move if ever I saw one.
Good hunch. Maybe Trump instead of that other scum Bloomberg.
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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2011, 06:33:41 AM » |
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Obama knows he can't win, there is no longer any lingering support for him.
In either case, I want R.Paul or Trump to win.
I know most would say Trump isn't the man for the job, and that it would be a joke to have him as president (I agree)
But hey , can't possibly do any more harm than Obama and Bush am I right?
Besides, if America is going down, lets go down in class, with TRUMP..... I can see Trump on the first day as president, as he just walks down the hall to every office in Washington.
Your fired, takes a few steps to the next door, Your fired,...takes a few steps to the next door, Your fired,...takes a few steps to the next door, Your fired,...takes a few steps to the next door, Your fired,...
Walks into congress, Your fired. Walks into house of reps, Your fired.
Now if he could just find his way into the Fed building, and lay down the "your fired" speech there also...
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Only reason I want R.Paul as president, is because we stand a real chance if he pushes through an executive order to end the federal reserve system.
I just want honest money, it feels "cheap" to earn paper dollars, I don't find it as much of an incentive anymore.
Now if I had tons of silver in a vault like uncle scrooge ... damn that would just be a lot more satisfying to hold, knowing that its REAL MONEY and that it isn't going to magically depreciate the next day by 20%
Gasoline has been rising 10 cents a week over here on average for the past 6 weeks.... already 4.50 at some gas stations.... and its not even summer or driving time of the year yet.
I like on TV how they talk about the money lossing X% of value, they always fail to tell you that its loosing its value exponentially (ie: 20% over 20% over 20% over 20%) .
ATM the dollar only has about one to three percent of its purchasing power left... what happens when we hit zero % purchasing power? will it go negative? will people start giving you money when you buy stuff instead of taking money?
Dollars are DEBT so it would be reasonable to conclude that in the future the more dollars you have the more broke you are.... it would be like one of those card games, whoever can spend their money the fastest (get rid of it) wins, but you can't spend it by buying stuff, you can only offload the cash by SELLING stuff. haha
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