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« on: February 06, 2011, 01:00:45 PM »

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Constitutional Republic of America


The Constitutional Republic of America (renamed to avoid confusion) is a peaceful and legal attempt to rediscover, reclaim, and revive the free country which America was before its founding libertarian principles were forgotten and sacrificed on the altar of political expediency and power. The CRA is the legitimate America as it was intended to be before it got "covered up" by the government which calls itself the UNITED STATES and pretends to be America while it has abandoned America's principles and Constitution and has illegally taken over the country. The CRA will be a member nation of the Association of Free Countries. By the way,

We are NOT Terrorists!

We are not terrorists, we are not some racist radical fringe wackos, we do not advocate the illegal violent overthrow or subversion of existing legitimate free governments. Even if you concede that there are probably very few or no truly free countries left today, we do not promote violent overthrow of even the non-free countries. As much as possible, we prefer to make arrangements with them (e.g. by treaty) so that those of their people that really want and are truly ready for freedom can have it and be left alone by those governments.

The situation

Even more than for the United Republic of Texas, for America we need lots of historical research done to identify the key points at which the government made major wrong turns, to put it nicely. Then, we can determine at which point(s) the US government became illegitimate and no longer the America that the Founders fought and died for. As with the URT, we can select the most appropriate point(s) at which to revive the correct form of the original American government and go from there. It may even be appropriate to do this at multiple points, reviving different historical American governments at their appropriate possibly legitimate stages, depending on different assumptions or approaches, and possibly also creating a secessionist government based on the present day, and then having each of these governments move in a common direction or to a common form, then recognize each other and merge, as we did for the URT.

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The solution


As a result of all this, the US government has been operating America illegally for probably 150 years or more, and is legally null and void. While all of these issues raised above should be fully investigated, we do not have the resources to do so, nor to mount the appropriate legal challenges (such as civil and criminal action under RICO, breach of contract, etc. against the entire US government and all state and local governments combined), and of course the illegal de facto government would not seriously consider them anyway. That's why we have to re-create the original America created by the Founders and operate it as a virtual country for our own members only, until we have enough people and political clout to negotiate a suitable treaty with the US and get them to actually honor it and basically leave us alone, just as the URT plans to do.

To revive each different possible legitimate American government from its appropriate historical context, we would most likely go through similar steps as described in the approach above described under the Articles of Confederation context. We would also most likely use the court system of the Common Law Institute as needed until we can organize our own. What we need now is a volunteer from each of the original 13 States. Please take the World's Smallest Political Quiz and this other quiz and email your scores and indicate which State you live in (and whether you live in the URT area if you know). Thanks.

It all started in Texas as far as I know.  I've only just found out about this so my research is limited.  There is a fellow in our church that is a district leader/organizer that is having meetings and I told him to let me know when the next meeting is.  For more info on Texas visit http://texas.freecountries.org/  My own state of MI has this site http://michstate.us/

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Declaration of We the people

 

Let it be known that we the people of Michigan

stand in recognition of the true principle

that whenever a government abandons the purpose for which we have created it and even become hostile towards that which it was once a defender of, it is no longer a fit steward of the political power that is inherent in the people and lent to this government with strict conditions.

These conditions are clearly defined in the United States Constitution and understood by the common man. Furthermore, to the extent that our government violates these conditions, they nullify their own authority.

At which point it is our right and duty to entrust this power to new stewards who will not depart from the laws that we have given them. This being the case let it be known that should our government seek to further tax, restrict, infringe and / or impose on our ability to exercise and defend our God given inalienable rights, which precedes all human legislation and is superior to it.

That the duty of us good and faithful people will be not to obey them, but to alter or abolish them and institute new government laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form as to us shall seem most likely to effect our safety and happiness.

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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2011, 10:56:29 AM »

I'm surprised there's no comments on this.  In speaking with the guy from my church I'm told there is a fully operational government all set up and ready to go when our current system collapses, which they say will be very soon.  Our current government and the press know about this but are saying nothing.  He also said they have talked to many other countries that will recognize the new government.  Also there is a new currency already printed which is supposedly sitting at current financial institutions ready for dispersement when our currency tanks. 

They expect a peaceful transfer of power, however I see no way that the feds will relinquish their control so easily.   
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2011, 12:00:21 PM »

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Christians are not suppose to entangle themselves with the affairs of this life, not get caught up in worldly matters.

If you remember from your bible, this world is toast! There is no saving it, or this or any other country. The evil governments of the world WILL be brought down by God Himself, so what are you trying to save as a Christian? Sorry, but your efforts support Satan who runs this world, so maybe you should reconsider your position and rethink that church your hanging out in, being given bad, unscriptural advice.

You cannot serve God and mammon. That's being double-minded.

Besides, what you propose s replacing our current form of government, and no real America wants that. Our current form of government is just fine. It's the idiots running it incorrectly that need to go, but in the end, it still won't matter because it will get worse and worse till God finally has to put an end to it once and for all.
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2011, 01:29:06 AM »

So when our govt falls apart this thing plans to step in and push back in the constitutional Republic?

I don't think it will happen, the monetary system is gona fall apart, the Govt might last for a while after that.
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2011, 04:25:55 PM »

You cannot serve God and mammon. That's being double-minded.

Perfection is not for you to decide, my friend.  It is in the hearts of the people that the wisdom is saved.  If you truly believe in what you say then I can easily deduce who you are working for.  But I say this:  You are wrong.  What faith we die with we make real.  That is an immortal legacy of the dead, what they strived to create while they were alive.

Don't you see that it's not anthropomorphizations that are the key to understanding, but faith beyond all comprehension.  And literally, what we store our faith in becomes the truth, and all who die become foundations to continue those legacies.  This is the truth of the world, and of man.

It is WE who claim the godhead, the sin of lucifer.  And we have a ticket to a free ride via the son.  I will continue to uphold the truth, you can go ahead and make excuses for your weakness all you want.

As for the others, popular support is necessary for successful governments.  How could an opposition have any chance of legitimacy if they weren't gonna be popular?  Watch as the governments crumble, watch as the corporations finally seize their chance to take over the weakest links in hostile manners.

Watch as it's happening right now across the world, even in Egypt (*cough*Omar Suleiman*cough*).
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2011, 04:31:03 PM »

State Nullification: Requisite To Freedom
By Chuck Baldwin
February 10, 2011

 This column is archived at http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/?p=3049

Montana and Texas look to be the states leading the way in a 10th Amendment movement.
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2011, 04:38:46 PM »

State Nullification: Requisite To Freedom
By Chuck Baldwin
February 10, 2011

 This column is archived at http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/?p=3049

Montana and Texas look to be the states leading the way in a 10th Amendment movement.

This is what we call a cop out.  Sorry to say XD
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2011, 04:43:41 PM »

Perfection is not for you to decide, my friend.  It is in the hearts of the people that the wisdom is saved.  If you truly believe in what you say then I can easily deduce who you are working for.  But I say this:  You are wrong.  What faith we die with we make real.  That is an immortal legacy of the dead, what they strived to create while they were alive.

Don't you see that it's not anthropomorphizations that are the key to understanding, but faith beyond all comprehension.  And literally, what we store our faith in becomes the truth, and all who die become foundations to continue those legacies.  This is the truth of the world, and of man.

It is WE who claim the godhead, the sin of lucifer.  And we have a ticket to a free ride via the son.  I will continue to uphold the truth, you can go ahead and make excuses for your weakness all you want.

As for the others, popular support is necessary for successful governments.  How could an opposition have any chance of legitimacy if they weren't gonna be popular?  Watch as the governments crumble, watch as the corporations finally seize their chance to take over the weakest links in hostile manners.

Watch as it's happening right now across the world, even in Egypt (*cough*Omar Suleiman*cough*).

Who the heck are you to come here with all of 2 posts and try to say who I am or who I work for? You don't know jack noob! Try browsing my 6000 post here and at least get a clue! I work for no one but God. I'm a full time evangalist in the service of Jesus Christ. I don't work for any man, so save your uneducated and ignorant accusations.

Get educated and then come back and we'll try again. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2011, 04:44:39 PM »

State Nullification: Requisite To Freedom
By Chuck Baldwin
February 10, 2011

 This column is archived at http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/?p=3049

Montana and Texas look to be the states leading the way in a 10th Amendment movement.

And Arizona

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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2011, 04:44:51 PM »

I seriously think the states need to get together and reform a new national government.

Between Texas and Montana, I think they have the right idea.
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2011, 04:46:16 PM »


and Arizona, sorry didn't mean to leave anybody out.

Even here in Florida we are getting sick of the Globalist controlled "national-government' aka the Federal Government.
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2011, 04:52:07 PM »

Who the heck are you to come here with all of 2 posts and try to say who I am or who I work for? You don't know jack noob! Try browsing my 6000 post here and at least get a clue! I work for no one but God. I'm a full time evangalist in the service of Jesus Christ. I don't work for any man, so save your uneducated and ignorant accusations.

Get educated and then come back and we'll try again. Roll Eyes

My post count matters not.  Like I said, you have not considered our faith closely, at least not as I have.  For what sins did Jesus die for?  Was he not specific in telling us of what is the important things in life?  In what way has he educated you to be so offensive?  When I say "You are wrong", I don't say it in arrogance.  I say it to teach you something.  When I say "Make excuses for your weakness all you want", I say it because you must realize that the avatar of our faith is Jesus, through whom sin is remitted.

Thusly, what we create in knowledge of this is rebirth of self.  This is the meaning of a woman making a woman pregnant.  Follow my teaching, my friend.  I will save you if you can help me.
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2011, 04:54:30 PM »

and Arizona, sorry didn't mean to leave anybody out.

Even here in Florida we are getting sick of the Globalist controlled "national-government' aka the Federal Government.

Technically Canada is a Confederation.  Apparently we're under the same illusion as you guys are!
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2011, 05:02:38 PM »

My post count matters not.  Like I said, you have not considered our faith closely, at least not as I have.  For what sins did Jesus die for?  Was he not specific in telling us of what is the important things in life?  In what way has he educated you to be so offensive?  When I say "You are wrong", I don't say it in arrogance.  I say it to teach you something.  When I say "Make excuses for your weakness all you want", I say it because you must realize that the avatar of our faith is Jesus, through whom sin is remitted.

Thusly, what we create in knowledge of this is rebirth of self.  This is the meaning of a woman making a woman pregnant.  Follow my teaching, my friend.  I will save you if you can help me.

Get lost troll. I have no interest in what you have to say, as it is apparently your clueless with your ramblings.

Your teachings? Are you serious? You consider yourself better than the Holy Ghost? You can't teach me anything but how ignorant you really are.

Your no saviour, just deluded, and I'm surely not your friend. I have no idea who you are. Any person that claims they can teach me and save me is no friend of mine, but a devil in disguise. Get thee hence!
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2011, 05:23:42 PM »

Technically Canada is a Confederation.  Apparently we're under the same illusion as you guys are!

In America the states can dissolve the national government if it gets too corrupt and reform it elsewhere and its all Constitutionally legal.

Federalism isn't itself bad it is just the evil Globalist puppet masters now that is making the national government so corrupt.
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2011, 12:51:21 PM »

I had the wrong national website in the OP.  Here is the real one:  http://republicoftheunitedstates.org/

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The plan is a bold achievable strategy for behind-the-scenes peaceful reconstruction of the de jure institutions of government without controversy, violence or civil war.  After a national vote and approval by the body of Republic Assemblies, the plan is now in the implementation phase to accomplish the following:

    * Restore and reinhabit the de jure institutions of lawful government.
    * End the foreclosure nightmare (for borrowing against one’s own credit).
    * End tax prosecutions for resisting the transfer of private wealth to such as I.R.S. (former Puerto Rico Bureau of Taxation).
    * End street assaults against the sovereign People for failing to exhibit a State-issued confession of subject-class citizenship.
    * End all prosecutions which lack an injured party.
    * End admiralty prosecutions for kidnapping and other heinous crimes against mankind as “commercial crimes” against the corporate State under a contrived corporate color-of-law venue (corp. ref. 27 C.F.R. 72.11).
    * End the use of covert contracts such as Form 1040, car registrations, birth certificate applications, and bank signature cards which confess the signer to be a legal fiction subject of the United States Federal Corporation (“U.S. person”) that has waved his/her rights in favor of state-issued privileges.
    * End the use of deeds which classify the People as “tenants” on their own land, thereby transferring control to incorporated County registrars and tax assessors.
    * End the perversion of marriage into a commercial system of state-issued privileges through the so-called “marriage license” whereby incorporated “courts” presume the “right” to trespass on families and kidnap children.
    * End the hijacking of automobile ownership through DMV registrations which covertly exchange the divine rights of travel and ownership for the state-issued “privileges” of “driving” and “title.”
    * In place of all of the above, substitute sovereign identification, diplomatic immunity and sovereign passports to facilitate safe passage throughout the world free from corporate State molestation and terror.
    * Restore the People’s money and wealth from the banking institutions, war profiteers, and international loan sharks.
    * Instantly vest all mortgages, auto loans and personal business loans “issued” by members of the Fed.  The state shall hold no paper on, or debts against, the sovereign People, directly or through its agencies and licensed banking institutions.
    * Instantly end all non-consensual and unlawful taxation including all taxes on the sacred rights of labor and privacy.
    * Empower and inspire the sovereign People to righteousness through such renewed abundance.
    * Issue orders to the military and police powers to enforce the Peoples’ divine rights of birth.
    * End the perverse act of requiring the People to pray to “courts” as is now required under corporate rules and traditions.
    * Restore the de jure judicial institutions including the district court of the United States and the one supreme Court.
    * Quietly mirror the strategies of 1933 thereby using their (our) institutions, military and public officials to undo eighty years of subterfuge without provoking alarm, controversy or armed conflict.
    * Forgive all corporate actors who repent for their State-sponsored crimes against mankind.  Remove the recidivists from office.
    * Do all of the above, and more, peacefully, discreetly, quietly and honorably, behind the scenes, without public proclamations or provocative actions against a general public that is mostly unaware of the hijacking of their free de jure American republics, and their hapless media.
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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2011, 03:31:07 PM »

Get lost troll. I have no interest in what you have to say, as it is apparently your clueless with your ramblings.

Your teachings? Are you serious? You consider yourself better than the Holy Ghost? You can't teach me anything but how ignorant you really are.

Your no saviour, just deluded, and I'm surely not your friend. I have no idea who you are. Any person that claims they can teach me and save me is no friend of mine, but a devil in disguise. Get thee hence!

Kilika, if you were aware of what I was saying you would have something else to say.  What I'm talking about isn't unholiness.  You wonder how one could be unholy and yet holy at the same time, and you are not the first nor the last.  HOWEVER, there is the truth and there is good and evil.  Evil is literally the antithesis to everything.  If you swam, you did not suffer and drown.  If you smoke a cigarette because you enjoy it, you did not stop and quit.  In these ways, the latters are evils to the formers because it destroys their reason to exist, and vice versa.

So to say you are done learning is like branding yourself incapable of cognition.  And likewise, the "Stupid Mans Psychological Complex" is no longer just a cliche in media as a ploy to keep you stupid, but manifested in real life and has become a dream alive within you. 

The evil to this is that you might learn, and BE active in your cognition, to BE a student once again, not to forget your ways but to learn the truth, because you cannot deny your soul lies in the dark ignorance of your own deeds.
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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2011, 02:58:53 PM »

Anyway a new Federal capital in the state of Montana would be a great idea.

The states could get together and dissolve the old national government and establish a new one.  38/50 for a Constitutional Convention.

Who knows maybe we can get Ron Paul to be President then.

Either that or have another split of the union.

As the Chinese say... "May you live in interesting times."   These next few years will be key to watch.
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2011, 02:22:15 AM »

Kilika, if you were aware of what I was saying you would have something else to say.  What I'm talking about isn't unholiness.  You wonder how one could be unholy and yet holy at the same time, and you are not the first nor the last.  HOWEVER, there is the truth and there is good and evil.  Evil is literally the antithesis to everything.  If you swam, you did not suffer and drown.  If you smoke a cigarette because you enjoy it, you did not stop and quit.  In these ways, the latters are evils to the formers because it destroys their reason to exist, and vice versa.

So to say you are done learning is like branding yourself incapable of cognition.  And likewise, the "Stupid Mans Psychological Complex" is no longer just a cliche in media as a ploy to keep you stupid, but manifested in real life and has become a dream alive within you. 

The evil to this is that you might learn, and BE active in your cognition, to BE a student once again, not to forget your ways but to learn the truth, because you cannot deny your soul lies in the dark ignorance of your own deeds.

You think yourself slick, but here you get it wrong. I never said I was done learning as you suggest I did. What I said is that I learn fromt he Holy ghost, not man. I can't trust man to be correct all the time about everything. But I know God will be, and He does so by His Spirit, the Holy Ghost.

I credit God, whereas your wanting to credit man. Your on the losing side, sorry. The game your playing is going to burn you.
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« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2011, 05:25:03 PM »

I will await until you find no new answers there.  Good luck Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2011, 09:31:25 PM »

The religious card again, God gave us free will to allow us(the human race) to get where we are now. And He will allow us to fix it also. Unfortunately religion is the biggest false flag ever created. It has been nothing more than a way to control people. Funny how many messiah's have the exact same story as Jesus 3000 years before he was even born. Make no mistake I believe in God but religion is a joke. Catholics during the crusades killed more people than Hitler and Stalin put together all in the name of God. I have studied many religions and read their books. No where in any of these publications does it say to kill in His name!!!!!!!!!!!!!! religion is based on fear just like our government wants us to fear terrorism. All falsely created in an attemt to control us and even want to be controlled!!!! The God I believe in is a loving and caring God whom expects us to do what is right, and thats to ensure every human being on this planet is free. It is up to us to change the world that we have allowed to become what it is. It's not just about America, but the entire planet. We can lead the way and show everyone what it is to be truly free by taking back our country and truly living by the constitution and the bill of rights which all people of the world are entitled to.
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