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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2011, 06:47:59 PM »

Forbidden History: Mummies of China
http://unslavedmedia.net/unslavedmedia/video/UY8XDSO9OHA5/Forbidden-History-Mummies-of-China



Whats with the subliminal stuff going on in it?  It's so fast you can't catch it to see what it is.  The first one is at about five secs, the second one is while they are showing the female mummy who is around 40.  I didn't finish watching it.  It might be nothing, but why have it in there?
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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2011, 06:55:07 PM »
Corn - Wheat - Rice  
None of the original forms can be found today!
No one knows the genetic origins of these basic staples.

http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_wh1.htm
Mysterious Origins of Crop Plants - Alien Gardens
By Will Hart
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We are told in our history and anthropological textbooks that our fist civilizations were spawned on the heels of the ‘agricultural revolution, which occurred in major river valleys. What the textbooks fail to tell us is that our Stone Age predecessors did not harvest and eat the seeds of wild grasses during their long sojourn through the Paleolithic era. They were hunter-gathers who subsisted on leafy greens and lean muscle meats.

How come they suddenly figured out how to domesticate and turn into major food sources circa 5,000 BC?

This raises some obvious and very sticky questions concerning the period of trial and error experimentation and development that must have gone into domesticating wild wheat into bread wheat and wild corn into the domesticated variety.
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What are the implications of our scientists not being able to trace the specific wild ancestors of modern corn, wheat, rye, barely and rice?
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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2011, 07:24:25 PM »
http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?topic=272.0
The Tocharian Mummies
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TOKARIAN DNA

The Italian genetician Paolo Francalacci finally got enough mtDNA out of the mummies to tell something about their genetic basics.  He concluded that the mummies were certainly Europeans, adding that Euros were a “very homogeneous actually."

Heather Pringle in her article “The Curse of the Redheaded Mummies,” adds: “For months the Italian geneticist laboured on the mummy samples, trying to extract enough dna for sequencing. The nucleic acids had badly degraded, but still, Francalacci kept trying various methods, and in 1995 he called Mair with a piece of good news. He had finally retrieved enough dna to sequence, and his preliminary results were intriguing.

The two Xinjiang mummies belonged to the same genetic lineage as most modern-day Swedes, Finns and Tuscans.”

CONCLUSIONS

DNA evidence says that Tokarian was not like "Indo-Iranian”, but "European". Both modern and ancient sources are (now) describing them as blond-haired and blue-eyed. Their clothes and their weaving patterns were European - identical to the style (“fashion”?!), the  coloring AND the weaving techniques known from the "Nordic Bronze Age" cultures in Northern Europe. Some references say they wore Kilts, had tartan-patterned clothing and "witch's hats" – yet another parallel from what appear in the European bronze-age culture.
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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2011, 08:57:19 PM »
Whats with the subliminal stuff going on in it?  It's so fast you can't catch it to see what it is.  The first one is at about five secs, the second one is while they are showing the female mummy who is around 40.  I didn't finish watching it.  It might be nothing, but why have it in there?
     I tried to go frame by frame there is something "people " in the one frame at 5 sec for blip   good catch dont know if it is bad though

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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2011, 09:08:41 PM »
Got it, after 30 times, i manage to pause at the exact moment where the image is appearing.
there are 3 people, from left to right,

A women with long hair mid 40 with a beige shirt.
late 50 early 60 man with gray hair and a bleu shirt.
Asian man mid 40 holding some sort of artifact.

they are sitting at a table in front of them, there are some ancient relic. Its a rope and i dont know what else but there is nothing really suspicous there.

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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2011, 09:50:57 PM »
can you capture and post a screen shot of it?

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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2011, 10:33:23 PM »
ill try to find a way to post it. i saved the image.

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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2011, 10:39:15 PM »
http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n509/celebrome/Untitled.jpg

hope it work hehe gut an account on Photobucket just for this.

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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2011, 12:52:58 AM »
http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n509/celebrome/Untitled.jpg

hope it work hehe gut an account on Photobucket just for this.

I saved photo and blew it up a bit...it is freaky.  No one is smiling...all look DEAD serious.  The Asian guy has his arm held up by a strap going around it, as if it has been deliberately posed.   His hand doesn't look too healthy either.  Neither does the females' hand.  What is up with this, it gives me the creeps.
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2011, 01:34:04 PM »
http://www.fife.50megs.com/trivia1.htm
The Scots were the tallest race in Europe, according to the 1909 Census. But the carnage of WWI changed that. By the 1930s, the average height of men in Scotland had been reduced by 9 inches.

  
http://www.rense.com/general64/chui.htm
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Meanwhile, Yingpan Man, a nearly perfectly preserved 2,000-year-old Caucasoid mummy, was only this month allowed to leave China for the first time, and is being displayed at the Tokyo Edo Museum.

The Yingpan Man, discovered in 1995 in the region that bears his name, has been seen as the best preserved of all the undisturbed mummies that have so far been found.
  
Yingpan Man not only had a gold foil death mask -- a Greek tradition -- covering his blonde bearded face, but also wore elaborate golden embroidered red and maroon garments with seemingly Western European designs.
  
His nearly 2.00 meter (six-foot, six-inch) long body is the tallest of all the mummies found so far and the clothes and artifacts discovered in the surrounding tombs suggest the highest level of Caucasoid civilization in the ancient Tarim Basin region.
  
When the Yingpan Man returns from Tokyo to Urumqi where he has long been kept out of public eye, he is expected to be finally put on display when the new Xinjiang Museum opens this year.



6’6″ Tall Yingpan Mummy


http://www.philipcoppens.com/turim_mummies.html
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Cherchen Man is six feet 6 feet tall, was around fifty years old at the time of his death, has reddish brown hair, a long nose, full lips and a ginger beard. He was buried in a red twill tunic and tartan leggings and his body is far better preserved than the notorious Egyptian mummies everyone stumbles across everywhere. Most interestingly, Cherchen Man too was buried with no less than ten hats, one which looks Roman, another looking like a beret, a cap, and even a conical “witch” hat – which is therefore something of a common feature of several of these mummies.
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2011, 03:12:38 PM »


Anybody else notice the black strap around the Asian guys wrist that is connected to a string at the top?  It is holding his arm in it's position...and also Look at his hand....
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2011, 02:27:18 PM »
For reference - Oldest know civilized site found in Turkey - est 12000 years old - no explanation...


Dated at around 9,500 BC, these stones are 5,500 years older than the first cities of Mesopotamia

Description - As there is no evidence of habitation; the structures are interpreted as temples.
After 8000 BC, the site was abandoned and purposely covered up with soil.

It consists of at least 20 underground rooms that contain a number of T-shaped stone pillars that are 8 feet tall and weigh about 7 tons. The pillars are engraved with images of animals, including leopards, snakes and spiders....This is not a place where people lived. It's as far away from water as you can get in this region
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So far, 40-odd standing stones (two to four metres high) have been dug out. They are T-shaped and arranged in enclosed circles, which cover several hundred square metres. However, a broken, half-quarried stone has been found in a limestone bed about a kilometre from the main site. It is nine metres long, and was obviously intended to join the pillars at Gobekli: so there may be other stones, as yet unearthed, that are this big. Geomagnetic surveys imply that there are at least 250 more standing stones buried at the site.




http://www.archaeology.org/0811/abstracts/turkey.html
The World's First Temple  Volume 61 Number 6, November/December 2008  
by Sandra Scham  


It is likely the megaliths at the Neolithic site of Göbekli Tepe in Turkey once supported roofs. Archaeologists have found floors constructed of burnt lime and clay within the stone circles--the earliest such floors ever discovered. (Haldun Aydingün)

Turkey's 12,000-year-old stone circles were the spiritual center of a nomadic people

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[ The EARLIER structures are MORE COMPLEX ]

Excavations have revealed that Göbekli Tepe was constructed in two stages. The oldest structures belong to what archaeologists call the early Pre-Pottery Neolithic A period, which ended around 9000 B.C.

Strangely enough, the later remains, which date to the Pre-Pottery Neolithic B period, or about 8000 B.C., are less elaborate.

The earliest levels contain most of the T-shaped pillars and animal sculptures

http://www.templestudy.com/2008/10/22/the-first-and-oldest-temple-in-the-world-gobekli-tepe/

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/arqueologia/gobekli_tepe04.htm


http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/news/News_vi_EQ12%20_1_May2009.htm
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That Gobekli Tepe was constructed a full 7,000 years before either the Great Pyramid or Stonehenge is mind numbing in its implications for the history of human capability. More disturbing still is that the descendents of those Watchmen, or Watchers, who built Gobekli Tepe went on to construct further megalithic complexes.

As these went on they became cruder and cruder, until the early Neolithic peoples of southeast Turkey were simply erecting uncut standing stones or slabs either in circles or in lines. Much of the finesse of Gobekli Tepe and its contemporaries (Karahan Tepe and Nevali Cori, for instance) was lost, tending to suggest that these people were losing the impetus to create more complex structures. Despite this, we can see here the foundation of the megalithic culture, who then spread, c. 7000-5000 BC, from Upper Mesopotamia carrying with them the technologies and sciences of the Neolithic age, including an understanding of plant domestication in order that the world could settle into a more sedentary life style, away from its previous course of constant hunter-gathering.



http://www.articlesafari.com/2011/01/gobekli-tepe-aryan-settlement113/

Göbekli Tepe is the oldest human-made place of worship yet discovered. Until excavations began, a complex on this scale was not thought possible for a community so ancient. The massive sequence of stratification layers suggests several millennia of activity, perhaps reaching back to the Mesolithic. The oldest occupation layer (stratum III) contains monolithic pillars linked by coarsely built walls to form circular or oval structures. So far, four such buildings, with diameters between 10 and 30m have been uncovered. Geophysical surveys indicate the existence of 16 additional structures.



Only a few of human figures have been recovered so far. The man is the worlds oldest statue, the 13,500 year old, 2m tall Balıklıgöl Statue. Stratum II, dated to Pre-Pottery Neolithic B (PPNB) (7500–6000 BC), has revealed several adjacent rectangular rooms with floors of polished lime, reminiscent of Roman terrazzo floors. The most recent layer consists of sediment deposited as the result of agricultural activity.



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The archaeologists estimate that up to 500 persons were required to extract the 10–20 ton pillars (in fact, some weigh up to 50 tons) from local quarries and move them 100 to 500m to the site.
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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2011, 04:01:26 PM »
Anyone heard of the structures and monoliths found unerwater off Japan, other places and I think Turkey? I saw video of the one's off Japan, in I think about 90 feet of water. They are HUGE. Once you take a look at these things, the flood story isn't so unbelieveable!

http://www.grahamhancock.com/gallery/underwater/yonaguni.htm

(I dont support that site, but they had good pictures)
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2011, 10:07:38 PM »
Why would you use large gigantic stones unless it was "easy".

http://atheism.about.com/od/religiousplaces/ig/Baalbek-Temples-Lebanon/Baalbek-Trilithon-Stone-Blocks.htm


At 290 feet long, 160 feet wide, the Temple of Jupiter Baal ("Heliopolitan Zeus") in Baalbek, Lebanon, was created to be the largest religious complex in the Roman empire. As impressive as this is, one of the most impressive aspects of this site is almost hidden from view: beneath and behind the ruined remains of the temple itself are three massive stone block called the trilithon.

These three stone blocks are the largest building blocks ever used by any human beings anywhere in the world.

Each one is 70 feet long, 14 feet high, 10 feet thick, and weigh around 800 tons.

This is larger than the incredible columns created for the Temple of Jupiter, which are also 70 feet tall but measure a mere 7 feet -- and they weren't constructed from single pieces of stone.

In each of the above two images, you can see people standing by the trilithon to provide reference for how large they are: in the top image a person is standing to the far left and in the bottom image a person is sitting on a stone about in the middle.

Beneath the trilithon are another six huge building blocks, each 35 feet long and thus also larger than most building blocks used by humans anywhere else. No one knows how these stone blocks were cut, transported from the nearby quarry, and fit so precisely together.

Some are so amazed at this feat of engineering that they have created fanciful tales of the Romans using magic or that the site was created centuries earlier by an unidentified people who had access to alien technology.

http://atheism.about.com/od/religiousplaces/ig/Baalbek-Temples-Lebanon/Baalbek-Stone-Pregnant-Woman.htm



The Baalbek trilithon is a set of three massive stone blocks which are part of the foundation of the Temple of Jupiter Baal ("Heliopolitan Zeus") in Baalbek. They are so large that people cannot imagine how they were cut and transported to the site. As impressive as these three stone blocks are, though, there is a fourth block still in the quarry which is three feet longer than the blocks in the trilithon and which is estimated to weigh 1,200 tons. Locals have named it Hajar el Gouble (Stone of the South) and Hajar el Hibla (Stone of the Pregnant Woman), with the latter apparently being the most popular.

In the two photos above you can see just how large it is - if you look closely, each image has one or two people on the stone to provide reference. The stone is at an angle because it was never cut away. Although we can see that it was cut to be made part of the Baalbek site, it remains attached at its base to the underlying bedrock, not unlike a plant which still has roots in the earth. No one knows how such a massive stone block was cut so precisely or how it was supposed to be moved.

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« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2011, 04:09:51 AM »
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Some are so amazed at this feat of engineering that they have created fanciful tales of the Romans using magic or that the site was created centuries earlier by an unidentified people who had access to alien technology.

Wasn't alien technology, but I believe they got help from non-humans. The God of Abraham surely didn't help them build temples to other gods. So who would? Hmmm.

It's also interesting to me that scripture says there is nothing new under the sun. So that to me means technology today isn't really new at all, just a variation of past understandings. I have no doubt that man thousands of years ago got really tired of having to move heavy rocks by hand and dreamed of rocks moving themselves. It would be arrogant of us to think otherwise. They got tired and lazy just we do. No doubt they had dreamers too that did all kinds of thinking about stuff the average person doesn't.

Then there are certain things like these massive stone monoliths that seem to defy explanation. Every now and then man had help.
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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2011, 05:18:14 AM »
Anybody else notice the black strap around the Asian guys wrist that is connected to a string at the top?  It is holding his arm in it's position...and also Look at his hand....

Whats so special about one frame that probably got there by a processing error. The guy in the middle is Victor Mair, seen around 5:38 and right after that comes the scene where the picture is from. Going from 5:44 on ward. The picture itself is from around 5:53. Geez people did you even watch the whole video? How stupid are you? He has a black band on his wrist that just happens to be aligned with a vertical shadow in the background. There is nothing hanging here. FFS I wish people wouldnt always make mysterious shit up all the time when they encounter something their retarded brains cant handle. Sorry but I really get angry about stuff like that. Same with UFO or reptilian eyes or no planes cause the wings vanished.

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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2011, 10:47:23 AM »
Whats so special about one frame that probably got there by a processing error. The guy in the middle is Victor Mair, seen around 5:38 and right after that comes the scene where the picture is from. Going from 5:44 on ward. The picture itself is from around 5:53. Geez people did you even watch the whole video? How stupid are you? He has a black band on his wrist that just happens to be aligned with a vertical shadow in the background. There is nothing hanging here. FFS I wish people wouldnt always make mysterious shit up all the time when they encounter something their retarded brains cant handle. Sorry but I really get angry about stuff like that. Same with UFO or reptilian eyes or no planes cause the wings vanished.


It was my mistake.  There is nothing special.  I saw the black band.  I just hate all that subliminal crap.  Frames that last a split second.  No offense intended.  I admit at first I thought it might be something.  But further examination showed it to be nothing.  Sorry if I sidetracked the thread.
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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2011, 08:07:47 PM »
Interesting case of a 6'6'' "giant" found in a Stone coffin at Ramsey Cambridgeshire England

"The Ramsey Abbey Coffins"
http://www.ramseyabbey.co.uk/coffins.html
Saturday, February 22, 1873 - Discovery of four stone coffins:

The men employed in widening the carriage drive to Ramsey Abbey discovered last week, about 20 inches below the surface, four stone coffins three of which were deposited side-by-side and and the other a few yards off. The coffins vary in size and length, and would seem to have been made to order, each coffin being occupied by a skeleton ( all, more or less, in a good state of preservation) and adapted to the size and cranial proportions of its occupant, there being a circular cavity in each of the stone receptacles for the reception of the hinder part of the skull.

One of the coffins measured 6'6" in length in the inside, and enclosed the colossal remains of a person that height, showing that there were something like giants in those days.  

Another of the coffins measured 5'6", and contained the skeleton of a person whose cranial logical confirmation would scarcely, in the opinion of the phrenology is, denote quandom possession of the brain of much intellectual power.

It would seem that one or more stone coffins similar in every respect have been, within the memory of some of the older inhabitants, taken out of the walls of the Abbey while carrying out certain alterations; and it may be the coffins to which we are referred were discovered at a very much earlier period, and removed out of the way by re-interment in the spot in which they are now found.

Saturday, March 1, 1873 - Discovery of Another Stone Coffin

... another stone coffin, making the fifth, has been discovered in a line with the other four.  This one is about 18 inches wide at the head, and contains two entire skeletons ( in a good state of preservation) lying by side, and two other skulls placed at the foot of the coffin.   There are no cavities in this one of the reception of the heads, and the two occupants of the coffin were buried with their faces downwards.

This circumstance, and the facts of two other skulls been found in the same coffin, strongly support the opinion that the spot where they are now found is not the original place of their supulture; but where they have been re-interred, as we ventured to suggest last week( centuries probably), subsequently. The coffins have not been disturbed, but remained where they were found and are now covered up.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsey,_Cambridgeshire
Ramsey, Cambridgeshire -  The town manor is built on the site of (and using materials from) the ancient Ramsey Abbey,
 ... The remains of the Abbey are now home to part of the town's secondary school. Abbey College, Ramsey resulted from the amalgamation of the previous two secondary schools, Ailwyn School and Ramsey Abbey School ...

Early and Middle Saxon Ramsey remains elusive. For the later Saxon period, documentary evidence for the foundation of the tenth century Benedictine abbey at Ramsey has been recently substantiated by archaeological evidence for activity associated with the pre-Conquest monastery.

Tradition has it that Ailwyn, foster brother of King Edgar, founded a hermitage at Ramsey. It received a series of substantial grants of land by King Edgar who confirmed all the privileges in 975, ...


969   - Ramsey Abbey  was founded by Ailwyn - Aylwin, foster brother of King Edgar ,  - Alfwold (d. 990), younger brother of Aylwin granted - Bythorn - Kingston / Wistow - was royal demesne and belonged to King Edgar

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=66138&strquery=Ramsey%20Abbey

Oh and here's another strange case:

Records of the Anglo-Norman house of Glanville from A.D. 1050 to 1880 ... By William Urmston Searle Glanville Richards

At Orford, twenty miles from Ipswich, there was a royal castle in the time of Henry III., who granted a charter to the town, which was previously a borough by prescription; it is now a mere village. Only the keep of the castle remains; it is a polygon of eighteen sides, with walls ninety feet high, and has square towers in its circuit, which overtop the rest of the building; the architecture is Norman, and it was erected by Glanville; [fn 14] and

in the year 1167, when he was residing there, the fishermen took in their nets a wild man, having the human shape complete, with hair on his head and a long and sharp beard and a large amount of shaggy hair on his breasts. The fishermen were not able to keep him long, as he stole away to sea privately, and was never seen afterwards. [fn 15]

Orford Castle

One of the first constables of Orford , Bartholomew de Glanville, was a local man who took up his post in 1167.
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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2011, 09:36:56 PM »
Why would you use large gigantic stones unless it was "easy".

http://atheism.about.com/od/religiousplaces/ig/Baalbek-Temples-Lebanon/Baalbek-Trilithon-Stone-Blocks.htm


At 290 feet long, 160 feet wide, the Temple of Jupiter Baal ("Heliopolitan Zeus") in Baalbek, Lebanon, was created to be the largest religious complex in the Roman empire. As impressive as this is, one of the most impressive aspects of this site is almost hidden from view: beneath and behind the ruined remains of the temple itself are three massive stone block called the trilithon.

These three stone blocks are the largest building blocks ever used by any human beings anywhere in the world.

Each one is 70 feet long, 14 feet high, 10 feet thick, and weigh around 800 tons.

This is larger than the incredible columns created for the Temple of Jupiter, which are also 70 feet tall but measure a mere 7 feet -- and they weren't constructed from single pieces of stone.

In each of the above two images, you can see people standing by the trilithon to provide reference for how large they are: in the top image a person is standing to the far left and in the bottom image a person is sitting on a stone about in the middle.

Beneath the trilithon are another six huge building blocks, each 35 feet long and thus also larger than most building blocks used by humans anywhere else. No one knows how these stone blocks were cut, transported from the nearby quarry, and fit so precisely together.

Some are so amazed at this feat of engineering that they have created fanciful tales of the Romans using magic or that the site was created centuries earlier by an unidentified people who had access to alien technology.

http://atheism.about.com/od/religiousplaces/ig/Baalbek-Temples-Lebanon/Baalbek-Stone-Pregnant-Woman.htm



The Baalbek trilithon is a set of three massive stone blocks which are part of the foundation of the Temple of Jupiter Baal ("Heliopolitan Zeus") in Baalbek. They are so large that people cannot imagine how they were cut and transported to the site. As impressive as these three stone blocks are, though, there is a fourth block still in the quarry which is three feet longer than the blocks in the trilithon and which is estimated to weigh 1,200 tons. Locals have named it Hajar el Gouble (Stone of the South) and Hajar el Hibla (Stone of the Pregnant Woman), with the latter apparently being the most popular.

In the two photos above you can see just how large it is - if you look closely, each image has one or two people on the stone to provide reference. The stone is at an angle because it was never cut away. Although we can see that it was cut to be made part of the Baalbek site, it remains attached at its base to the underlying bedrock, not unlike a plant which still has roots in the earth. No one knows how such a massive stone block was cut so precisely or how it was supposed to be moved.



These just blow me away. I remember when I first say these and I knew everything we've been told since the 3rd grade is a lie.

We have 7 billion people on the planet and no one can do this. I think they say there was maybe 4 million people on the planet back then. And every where they were doing things like this. Crazy. Just more proof we're being lied to.
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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2011, 02:26:07 PM »
http://mattovermatter.com/2010/12/22/archaeology-giant-skeletons-discovered-in-nevada-cave/
Archaeology: Giant skeletons discovered in Nevada cave

The Paiutes, a Native-American tribe indigenous to parts of Nevada, Utah and Arizona, told early white settlers about their ancestors’ battles with a ferocious race of white, red-haired giants. According to the Paiutes, the giants were already living in the area

According to the Paiutes, the red-haired giants stood as tall as 12-feet and were a vicious, unapproachable people that killed and ate captured Paiutes as food.
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The find

Hundreds of years later archaeologists explored the cavern near Lovelock, Nevada–the cave the Indians had described.

What the scientific researchers found was staggering: over 10,000 artifacts were unearthed including the mummified remains of two red-haired giants—one, a female 6.5-feet tall, the other male, over 8-feet tall.

Many of the artifacts (but not the giants) can be viewed at the small natural history museum located in Winnemucca, Nevada.



Among the thousands of artifacts recovered from this site of an unknown people is what somescientists are convinced is a calendar: a donut-shaped stone with exactly 365 notches carved along its outside rim and 52 corresponding notches along the inside.

But that was not to be the final chapter of red-haired giants in Nevada.

In February and June of 1931, two very large skeletons were found in the Humboldt dry lake bed near Lovelock, Nevada.

One of the skeletons measured 8.5-feet tall and was later described as having been wrapped in a gum-covered fabric similar to Egyptian mummies. The other was nearly 10-feet long. [Nevada Review-Miner newspaper, June 19, 1931.]

http://www.helium.com/items/1814848-nevadas-mysterious-cave-of-the-red-haired-giants



http://thetreasuresofutah.yuku.com/topic/505
I just happened to be in the neighborhood, in Winnemucca that is, so I stopped by the museum to see if they really did have a giant skull there. Turns out they have 4!

There are not on display, however. I first searched the museum for them & when I only found a few artifacts by the Lovelock Cave exhibit I asked the elderly lady there who was watching the museum if there were any large skulls found with those artifacts. She smiled & said that she did certainly know about them & led me to a storage room just next to her office, where she opened up a cabinet on the wall & showed me 4 large skulls.

She told me that people come from all over the world to that little museum in Winnemucca just to ask about these giant skulls, and that they aren't allowed to display them openly because "the state does not recognize them."

I asked her where the rest of the remains were & she said that the bodies to those skulls & the bodies with red hair were taken to Berkeley a long time ago for examination, and are also not publicly displayed.

She didn't know exactly why the government won't recognize them but I can see 2 possible reasons: #1 A coverup or #2 They are tring to be careful with any possible Indian human remains on display because once a tribe claims them they can be taken away. She then went on to tell me the story about how the Piutes told the story of when they once warred with a giant red headed people & trapped some of them inside that cave. The actual cave in Lovelock, she said, has also been recently opened to the public by the BLM.

These skulls were pretty awesome to see in person. If you happen to be passing through Winnemucca you should definately stop for a few minutes & check it out!

For comparison of just how big these skulls really are, check out the picture at the bottom of this page
http://www.treasurecenter.com/treasure_diary.htm
It shows a modern sized jaw with one of these giant size jaws & really puts them into perspective!


Jaw from red haired giant (right) shown with plaster dental model from a normal modern adult for size comparison.

http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/archaeology/sites/northamerica/lovelock_cave.html
Lovelock Cave

In 1911 guano miners started using the cave for a source of bat guano. While bringing out the guano some of the miners noticed artifacts in it. The miners notified authorities and in 1924 two archaeologists, Llewellyn L. Loud from the University of California, Berkeley and Mark R. Harrington from the Museum of American Indian, Heye Foundation, came to excavate. When they got there they found one of the richest sites in America.

In just four months Loud and Harrington excavated 10,000 artifacts. They worked on the mine for several years and published their report in 1929 through the University of California. Research had been continued through the 1950’s and 1960’s.
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Some 30 years after the cave was used by the guano miners, enough data was collected for Robert Heizer of the University of California to form some hypothesis. He divided the time of the inhabitants of the cave into three time periods

1. Humbolt Culture, between 9,000 and 7,000 years ago
2. Leonard Culture, between 6,000 and 3,500 years ago
3. Loveland Culture, from 3,500 to 1,000 years ago. (This is theculture of the duck decoys.)

http://www.nevadabeautiful.com/pony-express/lovelock-caves-lovelock-nevada.html
Lovelock Caves – Lovelock, Nevada
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The archaeologists found and logged 10,000 artifacts.  The cave has a history of over 4,000 years.  It is estimated that hunter-gatherer tribes visited as early as 4,600 years ago and the cave was intensively occupied about 3,500 years ago until just 150 years ago.  All the evidence helps to support the theory that the cave has been inhabited on and off for over 9,000 years!

The Piutes told stories about finding white giants with the red hair who were living in the area.  They say they ambushed and fought the white giants until they had killed all but a few who hid in the cave.


No they are not interested!!!:

http://hearstmuseum.berkeley.edu/blm/lovelock.pdf
LOVELOCK CAVE FORMERLY KNOWN AS SUNSET GUANO CAVE (NV-CH-18):

Introduction
The archaeological materials from NV-Ch-18 (Lovelock Cave) were acquired by the PAHMA over a 65-year period in 21 accessions. The first archaeological collection was donated by S. A. Barrett in 1907 (Accession 291). In 1912, three more accessions including materials from this site were acquired (Accessions 419, 426, and 443).

Accession 419 includes materials bought by the Museum from a private collector, I. P. Richardson; Accession 426 includes specimens collected by Claude Jones of the Nevada State University and donated to the Museum in February 1912; and Accession 443 includes archaeological materials collected by L. L. Loud during his excavations at Lovelock Cave from April to August 1912.

In 1923, five more specimens from this site collected by I. P. Richardson were accessioned into the Museum (Accession 100EB), and plant fiber and a piece of string collected by the Botany Department were accessioned in 1932 (Accession 500AJ). R. F. Heizer and A. D. Krieger collected a small number of
artifacts in 1936, which were accessioned later that year (Accession 704). In 1941, L. L. Loud donated a model of an atlatl to the Museum, the original of which was found at this site (Accession 1941R). Accession 829 includes archaeological specimens collected by R. F. Heizer in 1944 and was received by the Museum the same year. Materials collected from the site by R. F. Heizer and J. E. Mills in September 1949 were accessioned by the Museum in 1950 (Accession 991). Accession 1009 includes archaeological specimens, primarily coprolites, collected by R. F. Heizer and a University of California field party from Lovelock Cave in July 1950, and in December 1950, Heizer donated several archaeological specimens from the site (Accession 1950AK). Accession 1934 includes materials collected from packrat nests at this site by Richard Brooks and donated to the Museum by R. F. Heizer in 1964. Heizer and a field party returned to the site in the
summer of 1965, collecting archaeological specimens that were acquired through University Appropriation in August of that year (within Accession 2040). Accession 2235 includes archaeological materials collected by Sam Payen of the University of California- Davis in the 1960s and donated to the Museum in 1967. Accessions 2467 and 2805 include archaeological specimens collected from the site in the spring of 1968 by R. F. Heizer and others under a permit granted to the University of California-Berkeley by the U. S. Department of Interior, with work conducted in cooperation with of the Bureau of Land Management. These specimens were accessioned by the Museum in February 1969.

Heizer returned with a field party in 1969 under an extension of the permit mentioned above, collecting more archaeological materials that were accessioned into the Museum that same year (Accession 2534).
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Specimens collected by Heizer and Napton under this permit were accessioned into the Museum in Accessions 2050, 2534, and 2805, while human remains collected under this permit are catalogued as 12-10741 and 12-11105 through 12-11118.
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L. L. Loud (1929:29) salvaged from the guano dump in front of the cave "several thousand specimens," consisting mainly of human skeletal material

http://www.nv.blm.gov/Winnemucca/recreation/jr_ranger_book.pdf
You Can Become a Lovelock Cave Junior Ranger By Following These Four Easy Steps
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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2011, 02:14:05 AM »
Interesting... lots of stuff like that gets locked away and "not recognized". They dont want people to ask stupid questions especially not question the credibility of mainline archeologists who wrote their doctorate based on complete BS and are in danger to get exposed if stuff like those giants get out. Like all the evolutionists and geologists when they find modern human skeletons in 2 million year old stonelayers... one of those experts are wrong and so they made an agreement that they keep quiet about stuff like that.

If there ever a revolution comes someone better remember to go through all the big museums and universities and dig up all the stuff that has been kept from the world and humanity.

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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2011, 04:19:17 AM »
Interesting... lots of stuff like that gets locked away and "not recognized". They dont want people to ask stupid questions especially not question the credibility of mainline archeologists who wrote their doctorate based on complete BS and are in danger to get exposed if stuff like those giants get out. Like all the evolutionists and geologists when they find modern human skeletons in 2 million year old stonelayers... one of those experts are wrong and so they made an agreement that they keep quiet about stuff like that.

If there ever a revolution comes someone better remember to go through all the big museums and universities and dig up all the stuff that has been kept from the world and humanity.

Hey, we butt heads on occasion, but on this I definately agree with you. One of the first stops I'd like to make is all the Middle East Arabic museums storage rooms, and then a trip to the Vatican library.

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She told me that people come from all over the world to that little museum in Winnemucca just to ask about these giant skulls, and that they aren't allowed to display them openly because "the state does not recognize them."

I asked her where the rest of the remains were & she said that the bodies to those skulls & the bodies with red hair were taken to Berkeley a long time ago for examination, and are also not publicly displayed.

Till then, I'd like an explanation why they hid away those Nevada skeletons. What do they mean the state doesn't recognize them?

 
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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2011, 02:12:56 PM »
related: Battelle - Kennewick Man

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19960829&slug=2346485
Ancient Bones, Ancient Disputes -- Is Kennewick Skeleton `Asian' Or `European'?
By Bill Dietrich Seattle Times Science Reporter - August 29, 1996

The discovery in Kennewick of a 9,000-year-old skeleton with a Caucasian-like skull and a spear point in its pelvis has electrified anthropologists, upset some Native Americans who want the bones reburied, and set up a potentially explosive argument over race, science and religion.

The controversy over the oldest complete skeleton found in Washington has dismayed James Chatters, a well-known Richland anthropologist and consultant previously employed by Battelle Pacific Northwest Laboratories.

He excavated the bones after their discovery July 28 in a Kennewick park on the Columbia River. On Tuesday, he said radio-carbon dating by the University of California at Riverside had established the remains are from sometime between 7265 B.C. and 7535 B.C.
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The Kennewick skeleton is exceeded in age in this state only by the 10,000-to 11,000-year-old bone fragments from the Marmes rock shelter site on the Snake River. The Kennewick specimen is unusual in its completeness, its height, and the fact there is an inch-wide stone spearhead embedded in the man's pelvis - some of the strongest evidence ever seen of human conflict that far in the past
"You can almost see the guy trying to dodge it, or arching his back to duck and getting nailed anyway," Chatters said.

During his life, the man survived the spear thrust, a slash to the chest that resulted in his left arm being partly withered, a chipped right elbow and a chipped scapula. He finally succumbed to an infection at about age 50, the anthropologist said. The skull and pelvis have damage typical of a life-ending infection.

"He was a tough, tough guy," Chatters marveled. "He's telling me so many things it's unbelievable."

http://assets.cambridge.org/97805218/23500/excerpt/9780521823500_excerpt.pdf
Prologue The Kennewick controversy ...
But the COE had conducted a preliminary NAGPRA summary and a general inventory of the bones, and had locked the skeleton in a secure area of their Battelle facility to secure the remains

http://www.enotes.com/forensic-science/kennewick-man
He determined that it was from a man who was probably five feet nine or 10 inches and about 40–50 years old when he died.
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Chatters sent pieces of the bones to a laboratory for carbon dating, which determined that the age of the skeleton was between 9,200–9,400 years old, making the skeleton one of the oldest, and most complete, ever found in North America.
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After a series of appeals by all sides, in February 2004, a U.S. Federal judge ruled that it was impossible to prove that the Kennewick Man's ancestry was culturally affiliated to any of the Native American tribes in the region and gave scientists the right to go forward with their investigation. In 2005, plans were outlined for study three-phase study involving as many as 23 different scientists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennewick_Man
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To further investigate the mystery of the Kennewick man and determine if the skeleton belonged to the Umatilla Native American tribe, an extraction of DNA was analyzed and acccording to the report of the scientists doing the DNA analysis: "available technology and protocols do not allow the analysis of ancient DNA from these remains

The remains are now at the Burke Museum at the University of Washington, where they were deposited in October 1998. They are still legally the property of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, since they were found on land belonging to them[9].

http://www.stanford.edu/class/ihum42/kennewick%20man%20--%20skeleton.jpg
www.stanford.edu

http://www.washington.edu/burkemuseum/kman/
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The Controversy
Public interest, debate, and controversy began when an independent archaeologist, working on contract to the Kennewick coroner, decided the bones were ancient but might not be Native American. He described them as "Caucasoid" and sent a piece of bone to a laboratory to be dated.

The final date indicated an age of 9,000 years, making Kennewick Man one of the oldest and most complete skeletons found in the Americas.

Subsequent tests of other bone samples showed the skeleton to be somewhere between 5650 and 9510 years old.

But if it is true that these human remains are thousands of years old, and are not Native American, then who was Kennewick Man? This question raised a number of other questions that have put Kennewick Man "on trial" in the public eye.

http://www.comp-archaeology.org/KennewickDNAfinal.htm
The press release sated that: Pieces of metacarpal and rib bone were sent for

DNA analysis to three renowned laboratories: Yale University, the University of California at Davis and the University of Michigan.

None of the laboratories was able to extract DNA for analysis due to the antiquity and mineralization of the more than 9,000 year-old bone
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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2011, 03:08:02 PM »
www.ubss.org.uk
http://www.ubss.org.uk/resources/proceedings/vol20/UBSS_Proc_20_1_75-76.pdf


http://www.showcaves.com/english/gb/caves/KingArthurOldham.html
King Arthur's Cave

The cave is situated at the foot of a low cliff at the north-western end of Lord's Wood on the hill of Great Doward at Whitchurch near the River Wye. It consists of a broad entrance platform, a double interconnected entrance and two main chambers. The platform entrance lies 300 feet above the Wye and faces the north west commanding a good view of the saddle-back of Great Doward Hill. All of the deposits that have filled this cave seem to be either Late Pleistocene or more recent.

[Mr] Cave, B V refers to a skeleton discovered in 1695. In that year a woman herding goats went into the cave and found a skeleton apparently with the remains of a spear. The skeleton was reported as being of gigantic proportions. The bones were collected and given to a surgeon in Bristol called Mr Pye. Extraordinarily though it seems he took them with him on a sea voyage to Jamaica, but the ship sank and the bones were lost.
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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2011, 03:48:03 PM »
MaximinusThrax

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37863695@N08/3482095684/
 It is a well documented fact that the Roman Imperor MaximinusThrax was 8 ft 6 in tall. It is believed that his family was descended from the tribes of the Nephilim and the recessive size gene of large size surfaced in him. This was the common understanding of him in ancient Rome. He was especially revered, feared, and loved because of his status.

http://www.cachecoins.org/maximinusthrax.htm


Gaius Julius Verus Maximinus Born: A.D. 173 (est.) Emperor: A.D. 235-238
Maximinus I was considered the first of the so-called soldier emperors.
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Most sources seem to agree that he was from Thrace and that he came from very humble beginnings. Most other information regarding his youth such as him being a shepherd as a young man is at best unsubstantiated rumor and conjecture, at worst completely fabricated.

All sources concur that Maximinus was physically a very large and imposing man and he soon found himself in the military. Of his appearance Herodian writes:

He was in any case a man of such frightening appearance and colossal size that there is no obvious comparison to be drawn with any of the best-trained Greek athletes or warrior elite of the barbarians.

The Historia Augusta elaborates:

He was of such size...that men said he was six inches over eight feet in height and his thumb was so huge that he used his wife's bracelet for a ring. Other stories are reported almost as common talk — that he could drag wagons with his hands and move a laden cart by himself, that if he struck a horse with his fist, he loosened its teeth, or with his heel, broke its legs.

Needless to say, the common thread of truth would be that Maximinus was a conspicuously large and very powerful man.
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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2011, 06:31:47 AM »
It's not like really tall humans is some secret, so I don't know why they would want to keep certain skeletons from the public. We have alive today men way over 7 feet tall. There's been many documented over 8ft., and the current tallest by Guinness World Records is a Turkish man at 8ft, 2in. tall. So I don't see 9ft. being impossible at all. When the average height is under 6ft., those men would be giants.
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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2011, 12:02:30 PM »
Its not a giant... but I think it kinda fits in here:

http://www.wimp.com/starchildskull/

Dunno what to think, very interesting though.

Here is a more detailed interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suDC7jQ_50o

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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2011, 03:47:20 PM »
It's not like really tall humans is some secret, so I don't know why they would want to keep certain skeletons from the public. We have alive today men way over 7 feet tall. There's been many documented over 8ft., and the current tallest by Guinness World Records is a Turkish man at 8ft, 2in. tall. So I don't see 9ft. being impossible at all. When the average height is under 6ft., those men would be giants.

Some of these giants were over 9 feet tall and with six fingers and horns.  So they would have been quite a prize back in the 1800's. Today DNA analysis could be performed (probably already in secret).

The caucasoid giants and ancients found in america don't fit the historical paradigm and the Indian tribes need their land and maybe the simple explanation there they just don't "fit". 

There is overwelming evidence that ancients and "giant's" ARE being hidden away, even the "normal" 7-9 foot ones.
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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2011, 04:01:24 PM »
Here is an article form 1916 about Giant Human Bones being found, kind of hard to get around.

New york times
July 14 1916.
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9D03E0DE1E3FE233A25757C1A9619C946796D6CF

Here is some more stuff. http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=128732.msg794229#msg794229

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Giants have always been found in the Americas, almost all have been swept away by the Smithonian.

Giants of Ohio and the Mound Builders
Mary Sutherland, author of Living in the Light



Estimates of the number of moundworks in Ohio alone—at the end of the Colonial period—topped ten thousand. Today, less than one-twentieth of these exist in reconstructed form. ,

The first record of giants in Ohio can be traced back to 1829. A near by mound was being used to furnish the material to build a hotel in Chesterville. As they dug into the mounds, the workers dug up a large human skeleton. The local physician examining the skeleton said that the skull could have easily fit over a normal man's head with no difficulty. Another pecularity of the skeleton was the additonal teeth it had compared to modern man.

In the Ohio River Valley, Indian Mounds abound. In 1872,Seneca Township, Noble County, Ohio, in what is now called 'Bates' Mound three skeletons wre found. All three skeletons unearthed were at the very least eight feet tall in heighth with bone structure proportional to their height. Another amazing discovery about these skeletons is that they all had double rows of teeth.

Later, in 1878, another discovery in the county of  Ashtabula County, Ohio. Mounds were excavated on land belonging to Peleg Sweet, a man of large features. In the first mound, theyt unearthed a  skull and jaw which were of such size that the skull would cover Sweet's head and the jaw could be easily slipped over his face. Excavating further, they discovered these mounds contained the graves estimated between two and three thousand. Many of the skeletons found were of gigantic proportions.
According to Indian Legend  there were two different races of strange humans that pre-existed their culture. One was the Archaic people who had slender bodies with long  narrow heads..  The other group was the Adena people who had a massive bone structure with a short head. The Archaics were living in the Ohio River Valley prior to the Adenas. In what is assumed to be around 1000 BC, the Adenas moved into the area , coming up from the South, to claim dominion over the land. After a great war, the Archaics were destroyed by this more advanced and powerful race. From the Adenas the art of mound building was established .
David Cusic, a Tuscorora by birth, wrote in 1825 that among the legends of the ancient people there was a powerful tribe called Ronnongwetowanca. They were giants, and had a "considerable habitation." He states that when the Great Spirit made the people, some of them became giants. They made themselves feared by attacking when most unexpected. After having endured the outrages of these giants for a great long time, the people banded together to destroy them. With a final force of about 800 warriors, they successfully annihilated the abhorrent Ronnongwetowanca. There were no giants anywhere after this, it was said. This was supposed to have happened around 2,500 winters before Columbus arrived in America, i.e. circa 1,000 B.C.-the time that the Adena seem to have arrived in the Ohio Valley.

Modern day archaeology and anthropology have literallly sealed the doors  to the true history of our ancestors. Archeological discoveries have become a one way door. What was discovered went to the Smithsonian Institute and others like it where the  contents have been  virtually sealed off to all but the elite few. But by digging through the archives of old newspapers, remaining documents, diaries  and Indian legends we can form some idea as to what laid in our past.

The Scientific American, in 1883, published the following account:

  Two miles from Mandan, on the bluffs near the junction of the Hart and Missouri Rivers, says the local newspaper, the Pioneer, is an old Cemetery of fully 100 acres in extent filled with bones of a giant race. This vast city of the dead lies just east of the Fort Lincoln road. The ground has the appearance of having been filled with trenches piled full of dead bodies, both man and beast, and covered with several feet of earth. In many places mounds from 8 to 10 feet high, and some of them 100 feet or more in length, have been thrown up and are filled with bones, broken pottery, vases of various bright colored flint, and agates ... showing the work of a people skilled in the arts and possessed of a high state of civilization. This has evidently been a grand battlefield, where thousands of men ... have fallen. ...Five miles above Mandan, on the opposite side of the Missouri, is another vast cemetery, as yet unexplored. We asked an aged Indian what his people knew of these ancient grave yards. He answered: "Me know nothing about them. They were here before the red man."

From the Ironton Register, a small Ohio River town newspaper, dated 5 May 1892,:   

Where Proctorville now stands was one day part of a well paved city, but I think the greatest part of it is now in the Ohio river. Only a few mounds, there; one of which was near the C. Wilgus mansion and contained a skeleton of a very large person, all double teeth, and sound, in a jaw bone that would go over the jaw with the flesh on, of a large man; The common burying ground was well filled with skeletons at a depth of about 6 feet. Part of the pavement was of boulder stone and part of well preserved brick.
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Evidence for the occupation of this region before the appearance of the red man and the white race is to be found in almost every part of the county, as well as through the northwest generally. In removing the gravel bluffs, which are numerous and deep, for the construction and repair of roads, and in excavating cellars, hundreds of human skeletons, some of them of giant form, have been found. A citizen of Marion County estimates that there were about as many human skeletons in the knolls of Marion County as there are white inhabitants at present!

The History of Marion County, Ohio 1883
compiled from past accounts, published in 1883
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Mastodonic remains are occasionally unearthed, and, from time to time, discoveries of the remains of Indian settlements are indicated by the appearance of gigantic skeletons, with the high cheek bones, powerful jaws and massive frames peculiar of the red man, who left these as the only record with which to form a clew to the history of past ages.

The History of Brown County, Ohio
(complied from past accounts, published in 1883)
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She said also that three skeletons were found at the mouth of the Paw Paw Creek many years later, while Nim (Nimrod) Satterfield was justice of the peace. Jim Dean and some men were digging for a bridge foundation and found these bones at the lower end of the old buffalo wallow. She thought it was Dr. Kidwell, of Fairmont, who examined them and said they were very old, perhaps thousands of years old. She said that when the skeletons were exposed to the weather for a few days, their bones turned black and began to crumble, that Squire Satterfield had them buried in the Joliffe graveyard (Rivesville). All these skeletons, she said, were measured, and found to be about eight feet long.
Now and Long Ago-A History of the Marion County Area
by Glen Lough (1969)
(This citation on West Virginia courtesy Dave Cain.)
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Collected Accounts of James Mooney (1861-1921), tells of the visit of very tall people from the west:

James Wafford, of the western Cherokee, who was born in Georgia in 1806, says that his grandmother, who must have been born about the middle of the last century, told him that she had heard from the old people that long before her time a party of giants had once come to visit the Cherokee. They were nearly twice as tall as common men, and had their eyes set slanting in their heads, so that the Cherokee called them Tsunil´ kalu´, "the Slant-eyed people," because they looked like the giant hunter Tsul´ kalu´. They said that these giants lived far away in the direction in which the sun goes down. The Cherokee received them as friends, and they stayed some time, and then returned to their home in the west...
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A document dated March 3 1880 records an excavation in Brush Creek Township, Muskingurn County. A site was excavated on the farm of J.M. Baughman. In this particular muond was discovered the bones of men and women, buried in couples . The length of their skeletons exceeding eight and even nine feet! The excavation was started in early December 1870.

What is most interesting and IMPORTANT here is the discovery of a large stone tablet inscribed with an ancient eastern form of writing. These are what is now refered to as the Brush Creek Tablets. *See Morman Tablets


Modern anthropologists have put forward the theory that once the giants existed in great number, and were the dominant race prior to the advent of modem and smaller races of men and women. Being warlike, they diminished their number in great wars (as the thousands of mound burials in the Ohio River Valley attest), and were eventually subjugated by the smaller, but more numerous races.  Although the giants of yesteryears may have been destroyed, the genes still rise in modern man ie. children born with 6 toes or fingers, double rows of teeth and giant sizes such as shown in the picture at the top of the page.


We can find another example of the existence of giant 'bearded' men, through the tradition of the Chippewa, Sandusky, and Tawa tribes.,
"In this connection I would say that Mr. Jonathan Brooks, now living in town, stated to me, that his father, Benjamin Brooks, who lived with the Indians fourteen years, and was well-acquainted with their language and traditions, told him and others that it was a tradition of the Indians that the first tribe occupying this whole country, was a black-bearded race, very large in size, and subsequently a red bearded race or tribe came and killed or drove off all the black beards, as they called them."
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« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2011, 07:17:00 PM »
Here is an article form 1916 about Giant Human Bones being found, kind of hard to get around.

New york times
July 14 1916.
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9D03E0DE1E3FE233A25757C1A9619C946796D6CF

Here is some more stuff. http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=128732.msg794229#msg794229


          great find

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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2011, 07:52:00 PM »
for reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wadlow
Wadlow reached 8 ft 11.1 in (2.72 m)[2][3] in height and weighed 485 lb (220 kg) at his death at age 22.



http://www.fife.50megs.com/trivia1.htm
Tour Scotland, Scottish Anecdotes.

Scotland is the only country in Europe that the Romans could not conquer. The Scots were the tallest race in Europe, according to the 1909 Census.

But the carnage of WWI changed that. By the 1930s, the average height of men in Scotland had been reduced by 9 inches.
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The Guinness Book of Records shows that the tallest Scotsman and the tallest "true" giant was Angus Macaskill. Born on the island of Berneray off the island of Harris in 1825,

Macaskill was 7ft 9in (2.36m) tall. He was also strong, reputedly able to lift a hundredweight (50kg) with two fingers and hold it at arms length for ten minutes. He died on Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia, in 1863. A cairn on Berneray commemorates him

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_MacAskill

http://thehumanmarvels.com/?p=924


In 1981 the Guinness Book of World Records recognized MacAskill as the largest true giant to have ever lived, the strongest man who ever lived and the man with the largest chest measurements of any non-obese man.

In adulthood, MacAskill stood 7 ft 10 in tall and weighed an astonishing 580 lbs. His shoulders measured an otherworldly 44 inches wide, the palm of his hand was nearly a foot wide and his shoes measured 19 inches in length.

Despite these startling proportions, he was reportedly a handsome man with deep blue eyes and a deep voice described and ‘soothing’ and ‘musical. In his home community he was affectionately known as Big Boy or ‘Gille Mòr’ and to others he was known simply as the ‘Cape Breton Giant’.

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Re: Giant Caucasoid Mummies
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2011, 04:41:04 AM »
so lemme get this straight... here we have a guy who actually did dna tests that show he has a skull with what it seems is alien dna. properties of the skull that show it isnt anything human or animal... and you guys start talking about giant skeletons with horns and six fingers and wish around that they are tested instead of showing one bit interest in the skull that already has been tested.

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« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2011, 06:04:01 AM »
so lemme get this straight... here we have a guy who actually did dna tests that show he has a skull with what it seems is alien dna. properties of the skull that show it isnt anything human or animal... and you guys start talking about giant skeletons with horns and six fingers and wish around that they are tested instead of showing one bit interest in the skull that already has been tested.

sure but that would require a new thread, like this, http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=204000.new#new

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« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2011, 01:59:45 PM »
In plain sight: Mayan - Lord Pakal's Tomb

They always describe the skeleton as "tall"  never in exact terms and these are scientists!!! (yes, a seven foot man is "tall")
The greatest find in Mayan archeology cannot be explained.!!!
I have yet to find a single photo of Pakal's complete skeleton... Can't be shown?. Also described as "tall" without exact length... Inconsistant age - supposedly 80, but the skeletons teeth looks 40....

He does not fit!!! - so he cannot be shown - Oh BUT too famous to destroy or hide .....

I'll keep looking, but I defy you to find an exact description (or a photo) of his skeleton. They make a big deal about his teeth but no photographs!

the Mayan pyramid relics located in Palenque ..."king Pacal regarded as a god and is a giant monster with a height of about 7 ft."



The monolithic sarcophagus is 5 feet 5 inches high, 6 feet 10 inches wide and 9 feet 9 inches long. The massive, 5 ton cover slab is 12 and one half feet long by 7 feet inches wide and 8 inches thick..."

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/arqueologia/esp_tumba_pacal_3.htm
The sarcophagus and its covering slab were sculptured in place first.
The pyramid and stairs within it were built from the base up after the crypt was finished. The Temple of the Inscriptions is unique in all Mesoamerica in this respect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K'inich_Janaab'_Pakal
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His skeletal remains were still lying in his coffin, wearing a jade mask and bead necklaces, surrounded by sculptures and stucco reliefs depicting the ruler's transition to divinity and figures from Maya mythology.

That the bones within the tomb are really those of Pakal himself is under debate due to the fact that the analysis of wear on the skeleton’s teeth places the age of the owner at death as 40 years younger than Pakal would’ve been at his death

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/egipto/fingerprintgods/fingerprintgods05.htm

Centre-stage, and overlooked by these figures, was a huge monolithic sarcophagus lidded with a five-ton slab of richly carved stone. Inside the sarcophagus was a tall skeleton draped with a treasure trove of jade ornaments.

Notice - 9 feet 9 inches long The top looks about a foot of stone and the bottom looks a foot and a 1/2 so  9'.9'' - 2'.6'' ~= 7' 3'' feet!!!

A mosaic death mask of 200 fragments of jade was affixed to the front of the skull. These, supposedly, were the remains of Pacal, a ruler of Palenque in the seventh century AD. The inscriptions stated that this monarch had been eighty years old at the time of his death, but the jade-draped skeleton the archaeologists found in the sarcophagus appeared to belong to a man half that age



http://mexicanhorse.tripod.com/ruz.htm
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QUESTIONS WITHOUT ANSWERS YET

1. Did the carbon radioactive test indicate Pakal was 80-year old or 40-year old at the time of death? Why was the report buried in the archives and not presented in the archaeological conference?

His stature and strong complexion question the genetic origin of the true Pakal.

2. What was the cryogenic process that speed up the formation of stalactites and stalagmites?

The process of these geologic elements is usually very slow, only few milimeters every 1,000 years and a tomb, approximately 1,300 years old, should not have shown an advanced process of these underground natural formations.

http://quetzalresistance.blogspot.com/2011/02/quetzal-resistance.html

The Palenque ruins date back to 100 BC to its fall around 800 AD. After its decline it was absorbed back into the jungle...

Pakal was buried within the Temple of Insciptions. The secret to opening his tomb—closed off by a stone slab with stone plugs in the holes, which had until then escaped the attention of archaeologists—was discovered by Mexican archaeologist Alberto Ruz Lhuillier in 1948. It took four years to clear the rubble from the stairway leading down to Pakal’s tomb, but was finally uncovered in 1952.

His skeletal remains were still lying in his coffin, wearing a jade mask and bead necklaces, surrounded by sculptures and stucco reliefs depicting the ruler's transition to divinity and figures from Maya Mythology

http://www.legendarytimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1168


http://www.flickr.com/photos/baggis/3580537357/


http://www.delange.org/PalenqueTomb/PalenqueTomb.htm

http://pushti-marg.net/bhagwat/palenque.htm
Of Palenque's 500 main buildings, only 34 have been excavated.
However, don't attempt to play Indiana Jones - it is illegal and dangerous.

Oh he died around 600 AD  so dna analysis would be great  right?  Also he was put into a air tight sarcophagus right? (and 5 ton slab on top and undisturbed right?  well read this, they say the skeleton is junk now!!! ???? :
(oh and NO PHOTO'S )


http://www.wordtrade.com/history/america/mayaR.htm
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The decades that have passed since the discovery of the tomb of Janaab' Pakal have witnessed major advances in our knowledge of the ancient Maya. Significant developments in epigraphic decipherment and a rap­idly growing corpus of new archaeological and bioanthropological data have restructured the playing field upon which debates about the ancient Maya are enacted. Whether or not Pakal would have wished for such at­tention, he has become a central figure in debates over the interpretation of Maya epigraphy and history. The identity of the skeletal remains in the sarcophagus in Palenque is not at issue, but Pakal's age at death continues to be a subject of debate among Maya specialists.

The chapters in this volume grew out of a multidisciplinary research project directed by Vera Tiesler and a symposium organized by Vera Ties­ler and Andrea Cucina for the Sixty-eighth Annual Meeting of the Society of American Archaeology in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, in April 2003. They provide new and important data on Janaab' Pakal's life and death, draw­ing upon a reexamination of his skeletal remains in situ, new laboratory analyses of associated skeletal material, and comparative data from other archaeological and bioanthropological studies and from recent advances in Maya epigraphy. Although a consensus on Pakal's age at death has not been reached, the research and analyses presented here demonstrate the value of interdisciplinary approaches to reconstructing the lives of ancient Maya rulers.
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Even disregarding the fragmentary condition of his remains, Pakal presents special challenges precisely because of the general age range that he falls into, whether one accepts the low (40-50 years) or the high esti­mate (80 years) of his age at death. Skeletal specialists are well aware of the great difficulty involved in estimating skeletal age in adults, particularly in those beyond 50 years. Few techniques attempt to enter this territory because of the great variability and idiosyncratic nature of age changes beyond the 50-year threshold. Some paleodemographers have developed mathematical approaches to simulate mortality profiles extending into older age classes. Although these models may be useful for predicting general tendencies, they are on less firm ground when applied to a single in­dividual who may show atypical or inconsistent age indicators. Attempts to age Pakal by comparing his skeletal age indicators to those of other elite burials at Palenque face the same problem of imprecision. Despite these major challenges, contributors to this volume attempt to resolve this and other issues surrounding the life and death of Pakal by employing some novel approaches.

The condition of Pakal's skeletal remains constitutes one of the principal problems in estimating his age at death, and one for which little can be done other than recognizing the limitations inherent in the analysis of fragmentary and poorly preserved skeletal material.

Poor skeletal pres­ervation is characteristic of the Maya area, as most contributors to this volume note, and Pakal's remains are no exception to the rule. Vera Ties­ler's recent examination of the skeleton indicates that it is only about 75 percent complete and poorly preserved. Taphonomic changes were noted at both the macroscopic and microscopic level, making both age determi­nation and other analyses problematic, and DNA extraction not possible. Despite these limitations, however, some observations were possible on degenerative changes in the vertebral column and joint surfaces of the appendicular skeleton. Also, Pakal's pubic symphyses and portions of his auricular surfaces were sufficiently preserved to allow for morphological observations. Preservation of a rib also was sufficient to attempt age as­sessment using histological methods.
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Vera Tiesler reports on new findings made during a reexami­nation of Pakal's skeleton in 1999, including important new information on cranial modification, childhood health (no evidence of anemia, healed periostitis, or enamel hypoplasias), and mortuary treatment of Pakal's body.

http://www.moon.com/destinations/chiapas/palenque/palenque-town/palenque-archaeological-zone/temple-the-inscriptions
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The centerpiece of the chamber is the massive sarcophagus, hewn from a single stone and topped by a flat four-meter-long (13-foot) five-ton slab of stone. The slab is beautifully carved with the figure of Pakal in death, surrounded by monsters, serpents, sun and shell signs, and many more glyphs that recount death and its passage. The walls of the chamber are decorated with various gods, from which scientists have deduced a tremendous amount about the Palencanos’ theology.

Working slowly to preserve everything in its pristine state, Ruz didn’t open the lid of the sarcophagus for six months. It then took a week of difficult work in the stifling, dust-choked room to finally lift the five-ton slab. On November 28, 1952, the scientists had their first peek inside. In the large rectangular sarcophagus they found another, body-shaped sarcophagus, within which was Pakal’s skeleton, with precious jewelry and special accoutrements to accompany him on his journey into the next world. A jade mosaic mask covered the face, under which his teeth had been painted red. (The mask was exhibited at the Museo Nacional de Antropología in Mexico City until December 24, 1985, when it was stolen along with several other precious historical artifacts. The mask was recovered in an abandoned house in Acapulco in 1989, mostly undamaged.)


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« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2011, 03:32:21 PM »
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