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« on: February 04, 2011, 09:45:09 AM »

http://www.infowars.com/republicans-move-to-make-patriot-act-permanent/


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“Short-term reauthorizations lead to operational uncertainty and compliance and reporting problems if the reauthorization occurs too close to expiration,” Grassley continued. “If these provisions are necessary, we should provide more certainty rather than simply revisiting the law year after year given the indefinite threat we face from acts of terrorism, and that looks like decades ahead. We should permanently reauthorize the three expiring provisions.”

Grassley, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. Intelligence Committee Ranking Republican Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga. will introduce legislation to make the measures permanent.

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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2011, 09:54:05 AM »

Saw that this morning.  I knew it was coming, like all of us that are informed.  We need to 'ramp up' our talking about the truth concerning this so-called "patriot act" and make sure all those within our realm of influence are clear that this is not a "patriot act", but an unconstitutional government grab.
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2011, 10:04:35 AM »

Patriot Act info:
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=1215&st=0


The first thing to know is that this ACT was in the wings waiting for the right moment to be passed, and then it was passed without anyone reading it right after 911. THAT SHOULD BE YOUR FIRST RED FLAG!

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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2011, 02:51:47 PM »

Great job Repubs.

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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2011, 03:16:55 PM »

Not an opposition party.
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2011, 03:24:15 PM »

Could it have been introduced mere days before the Super Bowl, when its already highly rumored we will see a FF take place, in order to further cement their supposed need for those travesty of a bill? All they needed last time to get temporary passage and funding of it was kill some Americans. What will they do this time to cement it's permanence into the foundation of America? We are scant days away from the Super Bowl, the most widely televised sporting event aside from the world cup. They are doing everything they can to make sure people are watching through the officially sanctioned media outlets. They also want us to not pay attention to Egypt. There are too many things lining up, too many subplots taking shape. I'm not usually a paranoid person prone to predictions. But there are some undercurrents here I simply do not like, and which make me exceedingly nervous.
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2011, 03:35:15 PM »

Couldn't tell you how many times "Republicans" said last year that the midterm elections would turn the country around for the better.

They're going to be in for a big surprise...
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2011, 03:48:04 PM »

Permanent tyranny just what I always wanted to bestow upon my children... NOT!!!!!!

 Bad mojo coming down the pike if this is allowed to happen.

 Divide, conquer, and then enslave. Yep, true democracy in action.

This news will be eclipsed by the game Sunday, sorry to say.
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2011, 03:51:50 PM »


This news will be eclipsed by the game Sunday, sorry to say.

That is of course, as long as there is still a game...falling ice, death...lol.
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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2011, 03:59:04 PM »

Every time the power base swings to the left or the right, things just worse and worse, because both 'sides' grab for more and more power. It's like a damn pendulum.
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2011, 04:46:46 PM »

Every time the power base swings to the left or the right, things just worse and worse, because both 'sides' grab for more and more power. It's like a damn pendulum.
           G.. These guys have a boss and its not the people. There are the root figures calling the shots and there are the role players..
            Politicians and their ( political theater), theatrics. One has to admit to the fact they have it down to a science, the flag hanging in the background, the band playing, their podium high above the masses, their 1000$ suits-makeup-hairstyling, the stage is set....The introduction includes their job description-TITLE, and boy do the have the rhetoric down pat. This one is FEAR card:year after year given the indefinite threat we face from acts of terrorism, and that looks like decades ahead. [/b]We should permanently reauthorize the three expiring provisions.”
  To include though not mentioned on this statement, the normal hype includes, my fellow Americans, I love my country, our freedoms, we are a DEMOCRACY..Sure, I could go on and on, the thing is they are actors fullfilling their role, in their own rights they have a tad of power, they have it waxed.
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2011, 05:15:26 PM »

http://www.infowars.com/republicans-move-to-make-patriot-act-permanent/


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“Short-term reauthorizations lead to operational uncertainty and compliance and reporting problems if the reauthorization occurs too close to expiration,” Grassley continued. “If these provisions are necessary, we should provide more certainty rather than simply revisiting the law year after year given the indefinite threat we face from acts of terrorism, and that looks like decades ahead. We should permanently reauthorize the three expiring provisions.”

Grassley, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. Intelligence Committee Ranking Republican Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga. will introduce legislation to make the measures permanent.

And he came off as if he knew who the real terrorists were that carried out 9/11.  I mean can you believe that this is the same person?  How can you know about Ptech, and yet support total treason against the Constitution?



http://grassley.senate.gov/releases/2003/p03r01-22.htm

For Immediate Release
Wednesday, Jan. 22, 2003

Grassley Worried about "Not My Job, Not My Problem" Mentality at FBI

WASHINGTON — In a letter to the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Sen. Chuck Grassley today expressed concern about the continued investigation of Ptech Software Company in Quincy, Massachusetts.

Grassley said he was concerned that the FBI may not have done enough to ensure the computers and networks of the government and private sector are free of vulnerabilities which might arise from using Ptech software.

"In the case of Ptech and the potential for widespread vulnerability in government computers and systems, I fear some at FBI Headquarters may be suffering from a 'not my job, not my problem' attitude that focuses only on the vulnerability of the FBI itself rather than the federal government at large – not to mention the private sector," Grassley said.

Here is Grassley's letter to Mueller.

January 22, 2003
The Honorable Robert S. Mueller, III
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Washington, DC 20535

Dear Director Mueller:

I am writing to you regarding the government's investigation of Ptech, a software company in Quincy, Massachusetts.

First, I want to commend you and the FBI, particularly the Boston Division, for taking this investigation seriously in regard to terrorism. It is my understanding that the FBI did not drop the ball in the way some early media reports had indicated.

I appreciate that FBI officials recognized the seriousness of most of the issues involved in the Ptech investigation and acted accordingly.

However, I am concerned that the FBI may not have done enough to ensure the computers and networks of the government and private sector are free of vulnerabilities which might arise from using Ptech software.

Until the National Infrastructure and Protection Center (NIPC) moves to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), it is still the FBI's responsibility, through NIPC, "to serve as the U.S. government's focal point for threat assessment, warning, investigation, and response for threats or attacks against our critical infrastructures," as NIPC's web site states.

In the case of Ptech and the potential for widespread vulnerability in government computers and systems, I fear some at FBI Headquarters may be suffering from a "not my job, not my problem" attitude that focuses only on the vulnerability of the FBI itself rather than the federal government at large – not to mention the private sector.

I urge you to make sure that the FBI and NIPC, rather than only the bureau's counter-terrorism division, address this issue in a global way. I also urge you to ensure that NIPC's detection, analysis and prevention functions continue during its transfer to the DHS.

As a senior member of the Judiciary Committee, which has oversight of the FBI, I know we both take these issues seriously. I appreciate the briefings FBI officials have been providing to my staff, and I look forward to continued cooperation.

Sincerely,
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2011, 06:26:52 PM »

US Lawmakers Clash on Patriot Act Measures:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110204/pl_afp/usattacksintelligencepoliticscounterterrorism

This article states the 3 provisions the Repubs want to make permanent. It appears Eric Holder complained about them having to be renewed, so these guys will just rollover and give him what he wants? Do these guys not know how to say NO? Amazing the way our Congress caves in to lies.  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2011, 06:11:12 AM »

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Here are a few of our defense agencys: Hows this for starters, and there are many more.........
  This should make any average Joe wonder why the FK the push the pat act if there is ny common sence remaining that is..
  911 comes to mind, according to our illustrious leaders, NORAD was incompetant, the FAA, the CIA, the FBI, NSA, Pentagon, DOD, and many, many more.Spoon fed Shiiite pudding..

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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2011, 06:27:47 AM »

It's pretty amazing, isn't it!

There is no way THAT MANY DEFENSE AGENCIES, etc could have failed on 911. There is no doubt, there was a standdown and/or a look the other way on 911, and probably on many more so called terror attacks (Underwear Bomber comes to mind who was simply let on the plane and then used to invoke Bodyscanners and all sorts of high tech crap we see in our airports), as part of their agenda.

If they can't do their jobs, then shut them down, IMO! The taxpayers shouldn't be paying for incompetent idiots and/or MINIONS OF THE ELITE DOING THEIR BIDDING, NOT OURS! I'M SICK OF TRAITORS WITHIN OUR OWN GOVERNMENT. THESE PEOPLE ARE DISGUSTING! BUT DO YOU SEE ANY OF THEM BEING BROUGHT TO JUSTICE? NO, THE LEGAL APPARATUS OF THIS COUNTRY ALSO JUST LOOKS THE OTHER WAY.  

Then you have just 3 OLD MEN in our Congress making the decision on making parts of the Patriot Act permanent? How is that for REPRESENTING AMERICANS? THESE PEOPLE ARE ABUSING THEIR POWER, AND EVERY ONE OF THEM SHOULD BE FIRED, IF THEY ARE ABLE TO RAM THIS THROUGH!

btw, while they're making their changes, they need to rename THE PATRIOT ACT, THE UNPATRIOTIC ACT. Start telling the truth bozos, your credibility is toast with the American people! Is this the CHANGE the Republicans promised us when they CAME BACK INTO POWER IN THE HOUSE? JUST AMAZING THE LEVEL OF LIES!



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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2011, 09:04:23 AM »

I wish this would blow up in their face the way the health-care bill blew up in their face. That way, both 'sides' of the house would have taken a monumental hit. The anti TSA backlash a few months ago would have been better timed if it had coincided with this latest attempt at liberty. But people do not make the connection between the patriot act and the TSA I guess. But if there was a backlash because of this attempt, then we would see the uber desperate side of the bastards in power.
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2011, 09:18:48 AM »

Great job Repubs.

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It was a Republican-controlled House and Senate that passed the "Patriot" Act in the first place, and it was a Republican President that signed it into law, so is this really so surprising?

Actually, to most "lesser evil voters," it probably is!  Roll Eyes

What's worse is the virtual certainty that they'll blindly vote yet again for one or the other of the two corporate-owned major parties in next year's election, and then have the nerve to complain when (surprise!) they continue to get exactly what they voted for.

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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2011, 09:22:37 AM »

It was a Republican-controlled House and Senate that passed the "Patriot" Act in the first place, and it was a Republican President that signed it into law, so is this really so surprising?

Actually, to most "lesser evil voters," it probably is!  Roll Eyes

What's worse is the virtual certainty that they'll blindly vote yet again for one or the other of the two corporate-owned major parties in next year's election, and then have the nerve to complain when (surprise!) they continue to get exactly what they voted for.

Some people just never learn.

Whats that definition for insanity again??? Doing the same thing and expecting different results?
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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2011, 10:37:22 AM »

I wish this would blow up in their face the way the health-care bill blew up in their face. That way, both 'sides' of the house would have taken a monumental hit. The anti TSA backlash a few months ago would have been better timed if it had coincided with this latest attempt at liberty. But people do not make the connection between the patriot act and the TSA I guess. But if there was a backlash because of this attempt, then we would see the uber desperate side of the bastards in power.
G--- Points+, most folks don't know there is a patriot act and if they do know it exists thats where the story ends.  The wording alone suggests its American as apple pie, PATRIOT ACT, realistically thats the extent of the peoples awareness.  Then agin the powers on high have led the people to beleive it is for their protection, the greater number of citizens in fear of their safety would have gone along with a bout anything.
     WE are but a fraction of the population that see clearly what is taking place. There are many folks may be scatching their heads and wondering, or digrunteld and bitching, but they are not seeing the whole picture. It can't happen here sydrome..
    The controlling faction is well aware of the midset of the majoirty, masters of human nature, they fully realize the Americn people will not react untill they are backed against the wall, it could be they are anticipating the majoritys reaction and have accounted for it.
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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2011, 11:01:23 AM »

G--- Points+, most folks don't know there is a patriot act and if they do know it exists thats where the story ends.  The wording alone suggests its American as apple pie, PATRIOT ACT, realistically thats the extent of the peoples awareness.  Then agin the powers on high have led the people to beleive it is for their protection, the greater number of citizens in fear of their safety would have gone along with a bout anything.
     WE are but a fraction of the population that see clearly what is taking place. There are many folks may be scatching their heads and wondering, or digrunteld and bitching, but they are not seeing the whole picture. It can't happen here sydrome..
    The controlling faction is well aware of the midset of the majoirty, masters of human nature, they fully realize the Americn people will not react untill they are backed against the wall, it could be they are anticipating the majoritys reaction and have accounted for it.

Well, like I've been saying, if this thing is up for renewal, or they want to make it a permanent addition to law, then they are going to need something to fear monger the people into accepting it. They know they need a catalyst, and at the same time, they want it to seem like it was the American peoples idea. After 9/11, I know of no American that was saying "spy on me, or take my rights." But somehow political America figured that was the very thing to do, or else it was their agenda all along. I go with the later concept. Anyhow, they conned America into thinking the Patriot Acts were their savior and salvation from the "terrorists in power," and stupid pop culture brainwashed Ameriduh bought it.

I still think it is no coincidence that this thing pops up around the same time that Egypt erupts, or that the Stupor bowl is slated to go on. One 'terrorist act' and people will unfortunately be clamoring to get the patriot act passed permanently, and to hand over their rights for perceived safety.
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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2011, 11:17:12 AM »

Excellent points, guys!


Yes, we need to remember who brought us "The Unpatriotic Act" - Republicans with Democrat votes also.
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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2011, 11:27:02 AM »

Excellent points, guys!


Yes, we need to remember who brought us "The Unpatriotic Act" - Republicans with Democrat votes also.
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« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2011, 11:28:40 AM »

Could it have been introduced mere days before the Super Bowl, when its already highly rumored we will see a FF take place, in order to further cement their supposed need for those travesty of a bill? All they needed last time to get temporary passage and funding of it was kill some Americans. What will they do this time to cement it's permanence into the foundation of America? We are scant days away from the Super Bowl, the most widely televised sporting event aside from the world cup. They are doing everything they can to make sure people are watching through the officially sanctioned media outlets. They also want us to not pay attention to Egypt. There are too many things lining up, too many subplots taking shape. I'm not usually a paranoid person prone to predictions. But there are some undercurrents here I simply do not like, and which make me exceedingly nervous.

I definitely feel the same vibes, and these vibes are not good, in any way, shape, or form.

The original Patriot Act was signed without one member of Congress reading it, and they admitted as much.  October 26, 2001--45 days after September 11, 2001 it was signed into law.
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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2011, 11:37:59 AM »

I definitely feel the same vibes, and these vibes are not good, in any way, shape, or form.

The original Patriot Act was signed without one member of Congress reading it, and they admitted as much.  October 26, 2001--45 days after September 11, 2001 it was signed into law.

What I always wondered was; how did they write something sooooo comprehensive in such a short amount of time? Short answer, they didn't. it was already waiting in the wings to be introduced. It was either is various stages of completion, or written as a whole before the event.
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What I always wondered was; how did they write something sooooo comprehensive in such a short amount of time? Short answer, they didn't. it was already waiting in the wings to be introduced. It was either is various stages of completion, or written as a whole before the event.
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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2011, 12:51:06 PM »

What I always wondered was; how did they write something sooooo comprehensive in such a short amount of time? Short answer, they didn't. it was already waiting in the wings to be introduced. It was either is various stages of completion, or written as a whole before the event.

I surmise that it was written before the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and stashed away for the perfect time to present it.  Oklahoma City Bombing wasn't going to cinch it for them, because Timothy McVeigh was an American, even though John Doe #2, by all witness accounts was middle eastern. Plus we know the REAL reason they blew that place up, it was to get rid of all the incriminating documents about WACO. They needed a bigger catalyst to garner and support the illusion that the Patriot Act was there to protect us from foreigners terrorists.
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I surmise that it was written before the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and stashed away for the perfect time to present it.  Oklahoma City Bombing wasn't going to cinch it for them, because Timothy McVeigh was an American, even though John Doe #2, by all witness accounts was middle eastern. Plus we know the REAL reason they blew that place up, it was to get rid of all the incriminating documents about WACO. They needed a bigger catalyst to garner and support the illusion that the Patriot Act was there to protect us from foreigners terrorists.

It may be older than that. Think about it, each false flag in the last few decades was worse and worse until they got to 9/11. After that, they either lost their nerve or their stomach for what they did, or they decided to go for a more defined, albeit terrifying way of getting at America. They are still terrifying us at every turn, just not on the monolithic scale that was 9/11. Doesn't mean they wont pull some just as epic in scale. I think they may have scaled back because so many people were so vocal about 9/11 and they didn't really take into account the interwebz being so prolific in outing them. Which is why we see a much more net-centric effort underway.
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« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2011, 03:58:53 PM »

Maybe there won't be a false flag at the Super Bowl after all, HOWEVER, either prior to or while the game is going on, and everyone's eyes are glued to the tv, Congress could very well quietly make this permanent, and once the game concludes, it's as if everyone will have forgotten the PA even exists.

Alot like on 12/19 of last year, NFL Sunday with TONS of nailbiting games until the very last snap on Sun Night football...by then, Congress quietly passed the draconian food safety act under everyone's noses. Coincidence that there's NO outcry over this food safety bill by the masses? Because not many know about it.
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« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2011, 04:10:26 PM »

Well to make anything permanent they need a Constitutional Amendment to repeal the old, annoying Bill of Rights forever.

Perhaps they could call it the "1st Un-Amendment" or the"Bill of Fears" and then they can add-in all the other Anti-Amendments to the main old constitution in subsequent ones on: using only borrowed private money, issuing indefinite secret blank checks of marquee, awarding Presidential blanket-exemption from the law, establishing Christianism and a permanent standing army, gun grabbing and all their other corporate-fascist $hit.

It would be the best way to go (, straight the rest of the way to hell in a hand-basket)!
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« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2011, 04:10:59 PM »

Maybe there won't be a false flag at the Super Bowl after all, HOWEVER, either prior to or while the game is going on, and everyone's eyes are glued to the tv, Congress could very well quietly make this permanent, and once the game concludes, it's as if everyone will have forgotten the PA even exists.

Alot like on 12/19 of last year, NFL Sunday with TONS of nailbiting games until the very last snap on Sun Night football...by then, Congress quietly passed the draconian food safety act under everyone's noses. Coincidence that there's NO outcry over this food safety bill by the masses? Because not many know about it.

Another thing I've been ballying about the possible use of the Stupor Bowl as a means of transmitting post hypnotic suggestions, other than the ones related to the ads. Because there has been an increasingly dynamic response from the federal government cracking down on online sources that rebroadcast the game. Why would the NFL not use civil law to go after those who violate their broadcast rights? Why do they jump straight to the Fed to enact immediate oppressive force to end the unapproved broadcasts? But your idea that its merely a distraction from them voting in some draconian legislation is also worth merit.
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« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2011, 04:25:22 PM »

Another thing I've been ballying about the possible use of the Stupor Bowl as a means of transmitting post hypnotic suggestions, other than the ones related to the ads. Because there has been an increasingly dynamic response from the federal government cracking down on online sources that rebroadcast the game. Why would the NFL not use civil law to go after those who violate their broadcast rights? Why do they jump straight to the Fed to enact immediate oppressive force to end the unapproved broadcasts? But your idea that its merely a distraction from them voting in some draconian legislation is also worth merit.

Ads on tv during sports games, especially of recently, have been very alarming. For example, there's this beer commercial with an alien spaceship coming down, and a bunch of beautiful looking "alien" women come out and make a deal with the married couples - exchanging their husbands for a brief trip on their spaceship(as part of their agenda to "save the planet") in return for the wives getting tons of beer to party on.

These are the kinds of ads where the NWO will make them light-hearted and funny(the guy next to me watching the games will find them hilarious), and at the same time, subliminally condition everyone.
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           The stuperbowl is one fine example of what will keep the masses amused, sure they will play it up and blanket the reality. Who wants to ponder on the state of the nation, UH UH, when we can be at the OL ballgame.
           Any method effective to distract attention we can be certain they will.
         Hells bells, Caesar gave the masses gladiator arena's,they kept the masses mesmerized and  addicted  bloodshed.......
         Human nature, they have it down to a science.
         
           
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« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2011, 05:33:23 PM »

It's pretty amazing, isn't it!

There is no way THAT MANY DEFENSE AGENCIES, etc could have failed on 911. There is no doubt, there was a standdown and/or a look the other way on 911, and probably on many more so called terror attacks (Underwear Bomber comes to mind who was simply let on the plane and then used to invoke Bodyscanners and all sorts of high tech crap we see in our airports), as part of their agenda.


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« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2011, 11:16:49 AM »

Tuesday, February 8, 2011
Tell Your Representative to Reject the PATRIOT Act Sneak Attack Before Today’s Vote!
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Tell your Congressperson to vote NO on the USA PATRIOT Act in today’s vote! The PATRIOT reauthorization bill being fast-tracked to the House floor contains NO reforms to the law, and will be voted upon with NO debate and NO opportunity for amendments to add oversight and accountability. Help stop this sneak attack on your civil liberties: there are only hours left to visit our Action Center and tell your Representative to vote “NO” on H.R. 514, the PATRIOT extension bill.

In late 2009, when PATRIOT reauthorization was originally being considered by Congress, many important PATRIOT reform measures were proposed and debated, and a bill filled with powerful new checks and balances was reported favorably out of the House Judiciary Committee. But, as Congress ran up against the renewal deadline, it decided that there was not enough time to fully consider those reforms. So, in February 2010, Congress instead extended the “sunsetting” sections of the law until the end of this February, with a promise to fully consider the issues before the next deadline.

But Congress is breaking its promise to consider reforms to the PATRIOT Act. In a legislative sneak attack, the new Republican leadership in the House is trying push Representatives to rubber-stamp another PATRIOT renewal. The House leaders just announced on Friday that they’ll be “suspending the rules” so that a bill introduced by Rep. Sensenbrenner to extend the expiring PATRIOT provisions until December 8, 2011 will go to the House floor for a vote TODAY, without any debate and without any opportunity for anyone to offer amendments to improve the bill.

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« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2011, 11:22:07 AM »

They meet today at 2 supposedly, and they debate for only 40 minutes. Step it up people!!!
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« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2011, 07:38:29 PM »

Patriot Act extension fails in the House by seven votes
 
House rejects Patriot Act extension
More than two-dozen House Republicans bucked their party to oppose the measure that would extend three key provisions in the counterterrorism law.


 
 
By Paul Kane and Felicia Sonmez
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Tuesday, February 8, 2011; 9:21 PM

House Republicans suffered an embarrassing setback Tuesday when they fell seven votes short of extending provisions of the Patriot Act, a vote that served as the first small uprising of the party's tea-party bloc.

The bill to reauthorize key parts of the counter-terrorism surveillance law, which expire at the end of the month, required a super-majority to pass under special rules reserved for non-controversial measures.

But it fell short of the required two-thirds after 26 Republicans bucked their leadership, eight of them freshman lawmakers elected in November's midterm elections. With most Democrats opposing the extension, the final tally was 277 members in favor of extension, and 148 opposed.

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« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2011, 08:32:23 PM »

I'm glad it failed to pass. But with all things government related, I'm sitting here asking myself, if it didn't pass, why? If it didn't pass, what else do they have in line to replace those provisions.
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« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2011, 08:51:29 PM »

I'm glad it failed to pass. But with all things government related, I'm sitting here asking myself, if it didn't pass, why? If it didn't pass, what else do they have in line to replace those provisions.

Like I mentioned above, I found it odd how it was the "Democrats" that ended up blocking this bill(yeah, the Tea Partiers, 8 of them, did their job, but 90% of the GOP nonetheless acted in unison). So this isn't like the HC bill where it was divided along party lines.

Again, great news, but I'm not holding my breath.
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« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2011, 10:11:00 PM »

Patriot Act extension fails in the House by seven votes
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/08/AR2011020806345_pf.html

It failed because they didn't get 2/3 vote (fast track House rules) of 435 House members (needed 290, they only got 277)


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