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Author Topic: Kissinger Bombshell: Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan targeted to stop food-independence  (Read 97740 times)
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« Reply #200 on: January 28, 2011, 04:32:42 PM »

I seen the uproar in Egypt today and I dont know if I am mistaken on what I have heard in the news today.

Did the US Government offer to send in the US Military to go into Egypt to kill all the protesters?
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« Reply #201 on: January 28, 2011, 04:33:55 PM »

John Kerry on Al Jazeera saying how much he respects Mubarak and that what matters most is the Egyptian people. How can you say anything more contradictory? The people don't want Mubarak you maroon.

Obama on now... eek
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« Reply #202 on: January 28, 2011, 04:38:48 PM »

John Kerry on Al Jazeera saying how much he respects Mubarak and that what matters most is the Egyptian people. How can you say anything more contradictory? The people don't want Mubarak you maroon.

Obama on now... eek

These two men are so far beyond worthless, it defies definition.
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« Reply #203 on: January 28, 2011, 04:40:22 PM »

I seen the uproar in Egypt today and I dont know if I am mistaken on what I have heard in the news today.

Did the US Government offer to send in the US Military to go into Egypt to kill all the protesters?

On what news did you not likely hear that?
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« Reply #204 on: January 28, 2011, 04:44:03 PM »

It was on CNN on TV, i was at work at the time and didnt stop to listen in.

All I heard was the US offered to send in troops to Egypt to take care of the protesters.

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« Reply #205 on: January 28, 2011, 04:52:39 PM »

no i've been watching msm all day, us official stance is that violence shouldn't be used by either side. i heard nothing about sending troops.
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« Reply #206 on: January 28, 2011, 04:59:36 PM »

Ok, keep your ears open, because I did hear them offer to send in US Military to control the protesters.

I guess time will tell.

I hope I am mistaken.
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« Reply #207 on: January 28, 2011, 05:03:46 PM »

It's important to note that Obama said he is against the Internet Kill Switch used in Egypt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYvjHDBwgd8

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« Reply #208 on: January 28, 2011, 05:14:16 PM »

LOL- Why not? "We" have all the money to borrow (from Them) in the world, all their fat, death-contractors to feed with it, and all the spare kids to wound and kill "we'd" ever need to keep our Rothschild-Likudnik bosses happy!

I don't think you are...
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« Reply #209 on: January 28, 2011, 05:33:54 PM »

It's important to note that Obama said he is against the Internet Kill Switch used in Egypt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYvjHDBwgd8

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« Reply #210 on: January 28, 2011, 06:02:17 PM »

Army and tanks hitting the streets.  The people seem to trust them, but I don't know.

Meanwhile internet is cut in Syria, big riots in Jordan, too.
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« Reply #211 on: January 28, 2011, 06:15:42 PM »

Army and tanks hitting the streets.  The people seem to trust them, but I don't know.

Meanwhile internet is cut in Syria, big riots in Jordan, too.


I've been watching Al Jazeera this afternoon, and they had reported that some places the Egyptian military were dispatched to was the museums to protect the national treasures they hold.

There are indeed important roles for the military to carry out in the midst of a Revolution, and protecting irreplaceable treasures from looters and idiots -- such as the museums along with the critical infrastructure (i.e. power, water, communications) is exactly what the military should be doing.
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« Reply #212 on: January 28, 2011, 06:21:57 PM »

I've been watching Al Jazeera this afternoon, and they had reported that some places the Egyptian military were dispatched to was the museums to protect the national treasures they hold.

There are indeed important roles for the military to carry out in the midst of a Revolution, and protecting irreplaceable treasures from looters and idiots -- such as the museums along with the important critical infrastructure (i.e. power, water, communications) is exactly what the military should be doing.
            Ya, I go along with that as long as they stay within they stay within those perameters.
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« Reply #213 on: January 28, 2011, 06:26:06 PM »

I'm sure Mubarak and Suleiman still have some loyal troops -- elite forces and so on.  This ain't over quite yet.  That's all I'm saying.

There's no evidence the Army has gone over en masse to the side of the protesters just yet.
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« Reply #214 on: January 28, 2011, 07:02:47 PM »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8289686/Egypt-protests-Americas-secret-backing-for-rebel-leaders-behind-uprising.html

Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
The American government secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian uprising who have been planning “regime change” for the past three years, The Daily Telegraph has learned.
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« Reply #215 on: January 28, 2011, 07:13:24 PM »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8289686/Egypt-protests-Americas-secret-backing-for-rebel-leaders-behind-uprising.html

Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
The American government secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian uprising who have been planning “regime change” for the past three years, The Daily Telegraph has learned.

HOLY FUK! I can't believe this is in mainstream news!  Egypt better wake up and not allow the next puppet to be installed.  Take back your country!!!!!

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« Reply #216 on: January 28, 2011, 07:19:07 PM »

I dont understand these topics. "El baradei CFR PUPPET". WtF? Mubarak is clearly a "CIA ALLY" so why would they oust him to put El baradei in because he is from the same team?

What I do get is: Usa might want to put El Baradei in if it would calm the people. El Baradei has lived his life outside of Egypt and is "lame controlled opposition that wont do anything". If people would shut up with El Baradei, it would be great. But, what i watched from TV, most protesters dont care for baradei or the muslim brotherhood, they just want freedom, now.

But this threads topic suggests that this was planned in before hand by CFR/globalists to put Baradei in. This means Mubarak must be good? But mubarak is bad. El baradei is bad.


Why cant topic just be: "revolution attempts in Egypt topic". Does the one who creates these topics(that are similar like this) have an obsession to act like he has some "pre/"real truth" knowledge of the future" and it must be always somehow put into the topic?


These topics just sound so fun sorry... a bit over the top.


I listened to some of Mubaraks speech. It sounds just like something from a Washington DC politics/Whitehouse speech writer.

This situation could also be like something that happened with soviet union. After soviet union fell, people lost all energy to do a revolution but the same team was still in control. But, soviet union was a police state behind an iron courtain. How can you be sure that a revolution is only X amount strong and not x10 and get out of hands (into real liberty).
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« Reply #218 on: January 28, 2011, 07:47:42 PM »

Egyptian Military Chiefs Cut Pentagon Visit Short
By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: January 28, 2011

WASHINGTON — Senior Egyptian military commanders cut short a visit to the Pentagon on Friday and were headed back home Friday, American military officials said, as the Egyptian Army was deployed on the streets of Cairo and other cities to back up state security forces who had confronted mass protests around the country throughout the day.


The chief of staff of Egypt’s armed forces, Lt. Gen. Sami Hafez Enan, was due to meet Monday with Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and remain with his delegation in Washington through next Wednesday. But as the protests intensified on Friday, he and his group headed for the airport.

The Egyptian military delegation was in Washington for previously scheduled annual military talks with their American counterparts. The sessions were led by Alexander Vershbow, the assistant secretary of defense for International Security Affairs.

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I'm sure it is just a coincidence that the Egytpian military chiefs were in the U.S. at a meeting in the Pentagon.

There sure have been a lot of coincidences lately.

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Egypt’s Military Is Seen as Pivotal in Next Step

By NEIL MacFARQUHAR
Published: January 28, 2011

Even as armored military vehicles deployed around important Egyptian government institutions on Friday for the first time in decades, it remained difficult to predict what role the armed forces might play in either quelling the disturbances or easing President Hosni Mubarak from power.
 
“Are they on the side of the nation or are they on the side of the regime?” a former senior Western diplomat with long service in Cairo asked. “That distinction had been blurred. We are now seeing a modern test of whether there is a separation between the two.”

The Egyptian military, the world’s 10th largest, is powerful, popular and largely opaque.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/29/world/middleeast/29forces.html?hpw
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As I was saying, this thing is far from over and the outcome is far from certain.



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« Reply #219 on: January 28, 2011, 07:54:00 PM »

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« Reply #220 on: January 28, 2011, 07:56:55 PM »

The problem now is what theocracy/kakistocracy  will take over ?
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« Reply #221 on: January 28, 2011, 09:23:31 PM »

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2011/01/28/imagining-new-egypt           But already I have started getting reports from citizen journalists that government-hired thugs will make sure that nothing about tomorrow is peaceful. They say that in several low-income parts of Cairo and Alexandria, government-hired thugs were seen to be splashing petroleum over parked cars. This to prepare for protests in which they'll light vehicles on fire when the time is right for them.

They've also heard rumours that the intelligence services will release a separate group of thugs under the name Akhwan al- Haq, or  Brothers of Truth, a trumped-up extremist group, that will charge through the streets with swords and caustic acid to splash on the protesters - thus placing all the blame of a peaceful uprising gone violent on a certain kind of Islamic extremism.

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« Reply #222 on: January 28, 2011, 09:30:51 PM »

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2011/01/28/imagining-new-egypt           But already I have started getting reports from citizen journalists that government-hired thugs will make sure that nothing about tomorrow is peaceful. They say that in several low-income parts of Cairo and Alexandria, government-hired thugs were seen to be splashing petroleum over parked cars. This to prepare for protests in which they'll light vehicles on fire when the time is right for them.

They've also heard rumours that the intelligence services will release a separate group of thugs under the name Akhwan al- Haq, or  Brothers of Truth, a trumped-up extremist group, that will charge through the streets with swords and caustic acid to splash on the protesters - thus placing all the blame of a peaceful uprising gone violent on a certain kind of Islamic extremism.



I don't doubt those rumors a bit.  This could turn brutal easily.  At the very least organizers should be taking extraordinary steps to make sure provocateurs don't infiltrate peaceful street protests.  I'm not entirely sure it is possible to account for all contingencies with regard to such threats.

Potentially very ugly. (Already is -- could get much worse.)
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« Reply #223 on: January 28, 2011, 09:36:17 PM »

I don't doubt those rumors a bit.  This could turn brutal easily.  At the very least organizers should be taking extraordinary steps to make sure provocateurs don't infiltrate peaceful street protests.  I'm not entirely sure it is possible to account for all contingencies with regard to such threats.

Potentially very ugly. (Already is -- could get much worse.)

Especially considering the CIA has a hand in it all.
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« Reply #224 on: January 28, 2011, 10:05:46 PM »

In all likelihood they are playing (gaming) both sides.
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« Reply #225 on: January 28, 2011, 10:12:53 PM »

In all likelihood they are playing (gaming) both sides.

Yup.

The human belief is bizarre/insane.

We don't trust people to be free, so we institute government to make sure everything runs smoothly.

But from where do we get these people to run our lives?

From society, that's where.

The fact that "bad people" are attracted to positions of power and control (aka government) is somehow beside the point.

Bottom line: we do not trust ourselves so we open the door for "bad people" to control us.

How is that not insane?
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« Reply #226 on: January 28, 2011, 10:29:18 PM »

I'm pretty much with you  there, partner.

I'm about a step away from anarchism myself -- but still firmly in the limited, constitutional republic camp.
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« Reply #227 on: January 28, 2011, 10:32:34 PM »

I dont understand these topics. "El baradei CFR PUPPET". WtF? Mubarak is clearly a "CIA ALLY" so why would they oust him to put El baradei in because he is from the same team?

What I do get is: Usa might want to put El Baradei in if it would calm the people. El Baradei has lived his life outside of Egypt and is "lame controlled opposition that wont do anything". If people would shut up with El Baradei, it would be great. But, what i watched from TV, most protesters dont care for baradei or the muslim brotherhood, they just want freedom, now.

But this threads topic suggests that this was planned in before hand by CFR/globalists to put Baradei in. This means Mubarak must be good? But mubarak is bad. El baradei is bad.


Why cant topic just be: "revolution attempts in Egypt topic". Does the one who creates these topics(that are similar like this) have an obsession to act like he has some "pre/"real truth" knowledge of the future" and it must be always somehow put into the topic?


These topics just sound so fun sorry... a bit over the top.


I listened to some of Mubaraks speech. It sounds just like something from a Washington DC politics/Whitehouse speech writer.

This situation could also be like something that happened with soviet union. After soviet union fell, people lost all energy to do a revolution but the same team was still in control. But, soviet union was a police state behind an iron courtain. How can you be sure that a revolution is only X amount strong and not x10 and get out of hands (into real liberty).

I do not understand your logic. By your argument, since Bush bad, Obama good. Since Rockefeller bad, Rothschild good. Since Beatrix bad, QEII good. Since Brzezinski bad, Kissinger good. Since Hitler bad, Mao good. Since Castro bad, Chavez good. Since cancer bad, AIDS good. Dog shit smells bad, so cat shit must smell good.

I really fail to see how Mubarek being a puppet for 30 years that the NWO is now going to use like the horse in Animal Farm equates to a CFR NWO Nobel UN Brzezinski puppet being a non-puppet.

Any way you might be able to help me through this enigma?
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« Reply #228 on: January 28, 2011, 10:35:44 PM »

I'm pretty much with you  there, partner.

I'm about a step away from anarchism myself -- but still firmly in the limited, constitutional republic camp.

Anarchism is such a horrible label -- and tough to achieve, but I can get behind the American Declaration of Independence in an instant. It's the best damned compromise I've ever seen.
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« Reply #229 on: January 28, 2011, 10:41:03 PM »

Some of the anarchists aren't necessarily bad guys despite the connotation. Nevertheless, if we went back (U.S.) to the founding documents -- both the consitution and Declaration of Independence -- we would have a much more humane and functional society with a minimum of government and coercion IMO.
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« Reply #230 on: January 28, 2011, 10:47:44 PM »

Some of the anarchists aren't necessarily bad guys despite the connotation. Nevertheless, if we went back (U.S.) to the founding documents -- both the constitution and Declaration of Independence -- we would have a much more humane and functional society with a minimum of government and coercion IMO.

Amen to that brother.
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« Reply #231 on: January 28, 2011, 10:50:02 PM »

Hey Mubarek...

Read Animal Farm...

Bilderberg are the pigs and you are the horse!

Let this be a lesson to all puppets...WORK WITH YOUR PEOPLE, SERVE YOUR CONSTITUTIONS AND THIS CRAP CAN NEVER HAPPEN!
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« Reply #232 on: January 28, 2011, 10:55:13 PM »

Ok, keep your ears open, because I did hear them offer to send in US Military to control the protesters.

I guess time will tell.

I hope I am mistaken.

why not, we did the same thing to rescue haiti from themselves.

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« Reply #233 on: January 28, 2011, 10:57:19 PM »

Suez Canal.

If this gets bad.

or if someone starts destroying the pyramids or something really old and important for allah.
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« Reply #234 on: January 29, 2011, 03:12:10 AM »

Russia Today keeps reporting that the U.S. was behind this all along and have been planning "regime change" for 3 years now.  As leaked by wikileaks.  I don't know who to believe. 

I just hope Egyptians won't accept another puppet, and install a true grassroots President something like Ron Paul.
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« Reply #235 on: January 29, 2011, 03:31:45 AM »

Russia Today keeps reporting that the U.S. was behind this all along and have been planning "regime change" for 3 years now.  As leaked by wikileaks.  I don't know who to believe. 

I just hope Egyptians won't accept another puppet, and install a true grassroots President something like Ron Paul.

Russia Today keeps reporting that because it is 100% true. Daily Telegraph has reported it too, Webster Tarpley reported it before there was one protestor, so has Hack Blood and many others.

This is the new "Iran Contra" regime change operations for the G7 banksters.

But...in the chaos people power is returning and all puppets are on notice that the G7 banksters will stab them in the back like they are doing to Mubarek (who served them for 30 years).

So the puppets have only two choices...start obeying their country's constitution and care more for the people they serve than the banksters...or...keep sucking the teet of the G7 banksters until they find you no longer useful and then be disgraced to the world on staged, public show speeches.
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« Reply #236 on: January 29, 2011, 03:52:30 AM »

Russia Today keeps reporting that the U.S. was behind this all along and have been planning "regime change" for 3 years now.  As leaked by wikileaks.  I don't know who to believe. 

I just hope Egyptians won't accept another puppet, and install a true grassroots President something like Ron Paul.

You bet this is all US orchestrated. More uprisings today in Cairo and other cities around Egypt, Alexandria, Suez, violent clashes in Ismailia and others.

The US are scared that the Suez Canal could get closed and the oil traffic be stopped.

Mubarak is supposed to change government today. Haven't heard any details yet.
Al Jazeera is mixing live news from Egypt amid sports, football, tennis and other clown stuff and news of the world.

Panem and Circenses. You need to keep the sheep entertained.
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« Reply #237 on: January 29, 2011, 04:09:59 AM »

Dig: what I meant was that everything seems to be a conspiracy these days even if there is no evidence. Why couldn't "organic" revolutions exist?



Lets see if I can come up with a topic that shows the funnyness of these higly speculative topics. It's speculative when someone says "CIA/CFR is behind these riots and not the egytian or tunisian or jordanian people". Just like when riots happened in Iran, all were "cfr/globalist riots".

Heres an example topic that is as speculative as all the "cfr behind revolution to oust cia puppet Muubarak".
I thought CFR & Cia are same team..

"NWO/black freemasonry" was behind the revolution in America in 1776 and puppet Benjamin Franklin & George Washington. Staged revolution was done so people will never do a real revolution!!".

Even Alex Jones said yesterday in radio: "why couldn't this be real" and "looks oranic".
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« Reply #238 on: January 29, 2011, 04:11:01 AM »

Albanian opposition holds demo

Police and anti-government protesters have clashed on the streets of the Albanian capital Tirana.


More than 20,000 people came out to demand early elections and to honor three people killed in demonstrations held a week ago.

Hundreds of police guarded the main government building in the Tirana city center on Friday, fearing a repeat of the deadly clashes that killed three people and injured more than 150 protesters and security officers, AP reported.

The opposition is continuing to pressure the government -- despite calls from the international community to delay or cancel protests to ease tensions.

Violence broke out, although the opposition had called for peaceful demonstrations.

The authorities said they regarded the demonstration as a security threat and refused to guarantee the protesters' safety.

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« Reply #239 on: January 29, 2011, 04:18:18 AM »

Dig: what I meant was that everything seems to be a conspiracy these days even if there is no evidence. Why couldn't "organic" revolutions exist?



Lets see if I can come up with a topic that shows the funnyness of these higly speculative topics. It's speculative when someone says "CIA/CFR is behind these riots and not the egytian or tunisian or jordanian people". Just like when riots happened in Iran, all were "cfr/globalist riots".

Heres an example topic that is as speculative as all the "cfr behind revolution to oust cia puppet Muubarak".
I thought CFR & Cia are same team..

"NWO/black freemasonry" was behind the revolution in America in 1776 and puppet Benjamin Franklin & George Washington. Staged revolution was done so people will never do a real revolution!!".

Even Alex Jones said yesterday in radio: "why couldn't this be real" and "looks oranic".

Well the only problem with your example is that it is not true.

Here is a true topic though that may help you out: "CFR/Globalist Morons continue Mockingbird narratives attacking the US founding fathers to manufacture dividion"

And if you are talking about the French Revolution then you would be partially correct. Again, the issue is using logic, sources, and references that stand up to scrutiny. The American revolution and the Haitian revolution are few examples of actual organic revolutions. Even though Vietnam was also fairly organic, there was so much surrounding influence. The Vietnam rescue of the Cambodian people was fairly organic in my opinion. Just stick to the facts and you should be fine.
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