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« Reply #720 on: February 03, 2011, 08:54:31 AM »

The tendency is for people to think that the Muslim Brotherhood are moderate Muslims, even among the intellectual circles and that it would be normal for them to take an important part in the future of Egypt or even rule the country after President Mubarak steps down.
How they are convinced of this is beyond my understanding.
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« Reply #721 on: February 03, 2011, 12:06:31 PM »

How much more proof does the legitimate government need to recognize a coup in progress?
Are they all so cowed by the global elite? I can't believe there isn't a congressman or senator, or supreme court justice, or anyone in the executive branch who recognizes that there's a despicable force at work; implementing the agenda so clearly written in documents by RAND. Why aren't they pointing to RAND? What is it they don't understand about these documents - the words are CLEAR.
It just boggles the mind that these people are not arrested and tried for treason.
Anybody out there? Hello?


Suleiman is now blaming foreigners for the demonstrations.

Thursday, Feb 3, 2011 12:42 ET
Egypt V.P. will not seek presidency, blames foreigners for fueling protests
Omar Suleiman says he won't seek higher office, that foreigners caused escalation of violence
By MAGGIE MICHAEL, Associated Press
 
Egypt's vice president blames foreigners, a major opposition group and businessmen for fueling the anti-government protests that have rocked the country for the past 10 days. The politician also said he would not seek the Egyptian presidency, according to MSNBC.

Omar Suleiman, in an interview with state television broadcast nationwide, outlined the military's role in the chaos for the first time. He said they are on the streets to enforce the curfew, protect people against thugs and to make up for the police's lack of capabilities to deal with the unrest.

Protesters and regime supporters skirmished in a second day of rock-throwing battles at a central Cairo square while new lawlessness spread around the city. New looting and arson erupted, and gangs of thugs supporting President Hosni Mubarak attacked reporters, foreigners and rights workers while the army rounded up foreign journalists.

http://www.salon.com/news/egyptian_protests/?story=/news/feature/2011/02/03/egypt_vice_president_speech_election
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At least one CIA asset is now out of the race.  There is no way the traitor-coward Gamal Mubarak would eve win in a fair election either, which would leave el Barradei very well poised for a future election  - if Egypt will ever have real "elections".

Now Hosni and Omar have both taken themselves out of a future race (supposedly) and Gamal doesn't look like he has a chance in hell.

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« Reply #722 on: February 03, 2011, 01:12:44 PM »

Mubarak: 'If I Resign Today There Will Be Chaos'
In an Exclusive Interview, Egypt's President Says "I Do Not Want to see Egyptians Fighting Each Other"

I've just left the presidential palace in Cairo where I sat down for an exclusive 30-minute interview with President Hosni Mubarak.

He told me that he is troubled by the violence we have seen in Tahrir Square over the last few days but that his government is not responsible for it. Instead, he blamed the Muslim Brotherhood, a banned political party here in Egypt.

He said he's fed up with being president and would like to leave office now, but cannot, he says, for fear that the country would sink into chaos.

I asked President Mubarak about the violence that his supporters launched against the anti-government protestors in Liberation Square.

He told me, "I was very unhappy about yesterday. I do not want to see Egyptians fighting each other."

Find the rest of the interview here:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/egypt-abc-news-christiane-amanpour-exclusive-interview-president/story?id=12833673
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« Reply #723 on: February 03, 2011, 01:16:03 PM »

Crocodile tears from the man worth 31 billion USD.

Who are Hosni Mubarak and His Family?

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WNCNews – February 2, 2011 – By maintaining his iron grip hand in Egypt for 30 years, Hosni Mubarak is equated with the Pharaoh. However, although his personal wealth (it is estimated more than 31 billion U.S. dollars) can be compared with the Pharaoh, but, his popularity among the Egyptian people is unconvincing.

During his power that without a fight, Hosni Mubarak is able to maintain stability relatively in the country while enjoying good relations with the West and Israel. However, it was not without a price. Many opponents complained about poverty, corruption, and brutality which is done by the state.

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« Reply #724 on: February 03, 2011, 01:53:40 PM »

So this makes about 1 Billion US Dollar for each year in power. Not a bad deal.
I want to ask him if he will give me 100 Million US Dollars to buy off the QE2 from the Sheikh of Dubai and have her sailed back to the UK.

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Now I wonder how much money Jimmy (his son) has got in his money box.

 Huh Shocked
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« Reply #725 on: February 03, 2011, 01:55:04 PM »

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« Reply #726 on: February 03, 2011, 03:32:34 PM »

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Hmmm, no symbolism there...  Shocked
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« Reply #727 on: February 03, 2011, 03:36:39 PM »

N-W-O = N-O-W?
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« Reply #728 on: February 03, 2011, 04:10:54 PM »

N-W-O = N-O-W?

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« Reply #729 on: February 03, 2011, 04:24:59 PM »

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread656140/pg27#pid10489883

Same topic over at Above Top Secret.

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« Reply #730 on: February 03, 2011, 05:32:20 PM »

When Suleiman was first announced, Aljazeera commentators were describing him as a "distinguished" and "respected " man. It turns out, however, that he is distinguished for, among other things, his central role in Egyptian torture and in the US rendition to torture program. Further, he is "respected" by US officials for his cooperation with their torture plans, among other initiatives.

Katherine Hawkins, an expert on the US's rendition to torture program, in an email, has sent some critical texts where Suleiman pops up. Thus, Jane Mayer, in The Dark Side, pointed to Suleiman's role in the rendition program:

    Each rendition was authorized at the very top levels of both governments....The long-serving chief of the Egyptian central intelligence agency, Omar Suleiman,     negotiated directly with top Agency officials.  [Former U.S. Ambassador to Egypt] Walker described the Egyptian counterpart, Suleiman, as "very bright, very realistic," adding that he was cognizant that there was a downside to "some of the negative things that the Egyptians engaged in, of torture and so on. But he was not squeamish, by the way" (pp. 113).

Stephen Grey, in Ghost Plane, his investigative work on the rendition program also points to Suleiman as central in the rendition program:

    To negotiate these assurances [that the Egyptians wouldn't "torture" the prisoner delivered for torture] the CIA dealt principally in Egypt through Omar Suleiman, the chief of the Egyptian general intelligence service (EGIS) since 1993. It was he who arranged the meetings with the Egyptian interior ministry.... Suleiman, who understood English well, was an urbane and sophisticated man. Others told me that for years Suleiman was America's chief interlocutor with the Egyptian regime -- the main channel to President Hosni Mubarak himself, even on matters far removed from intelligence and security.

Suleiman's role in the rendition program was also highlighted in a Wikileaks cable: http://cablesearch.org/cable/view.php?id=05CAIRO5924&hl=EGIS

the context of the close and sustained cooperation between the USG and GOE on counterterrorism, Post believes that the written GOE assurances regarding the return of three Egyptians detained at Guantanamo (reftel) represent the firm commitment of the GOE to adhere to the requested principles. These assurances were passed directly from Egyptian General Intelligence Service (EGIS) Chief Soliman through liaison channels -- the most effective communication path on this issue. General Soliman's word is the GOE's guarantee, and the GOE's track record of cooperation on CT issues lends further support to this assessment. End summary.

Suleiman wasn't just the go-to bureaucrat for when the Americans wanted to arrange a little torture. This "urbane and sophisticated man" apparently enjoyed a little rough stuff himself.

Shortly after 9/11, Australian citizen Mamdouh Habib was captured by Pakistani security forces and, under US pressure, torture by Pakistanis. He was then rendered (with an Australian diplomats watching) by CIA operatives to Egypt, a not uncommon practice. In Egypt, Habib merited Suleiman's personal attention. As related by Richard Neville, based on Habib's memoir:

Habib was interrogated by the country's Intelligence Director, General Omar Suleiman.... Suleiman took a personal interest in anyone suspected of links with Al Qaeda. As Habib had visited Afghanistan shortly before  9/11, he was under suspicion. Habib was repeatedly zapped with high-voltage electricity, immersed in water up to his nostrils, beaten, his fingers were broken and he was hung from metal hooks.

That treatment wasn't enough for Suleiman, so:

To loosen Habib's tongue, Suleiman ordered a guard to murder a gruesomely shackled Turkistan prisoner in front of Habib -" and he did, with a vicious karate kick.

After Suleiman's men extracted Habib's confession, he was transferred back to US custody, where he eventually was imprisoned at Guantanamo. His "confession" was then used as evidence in his Guantanamo trial.

The Washington Post's intelligence correspondent Jeff Stein reported some additional details regarding Suleiman and his important role in the old Egypt the demonstrators are trying to leave behind:

    "Suleiman is seen by some analysts as a possible successor to the president," the Voice of American said Friday. "He earned international respect for his role as a mediator in Middle East affairs and for curbing Islamic extremism."

    An editorialist at Pakistan's "International News" predicted Thursday that "Suleiman will probably scupper his boss's plans [to install his son], even if the aspiring intelligence guru himself is as young as 75."

    Suleiman graduated from Egypt's prestigious Military Academy but also received training in the Soviet Union. Under his guidance, Egyptian intelligence has worked hand-in-glove with the CIA's counterterrorism programs, most notably in the 2003 rendition from Italy of an al-Qaeda suspect known as Abu Omar.

    In 2009, Foreign Policy magazine ranked Suleiman as the Middle East's most powerful intelligence chief, ahead of Mossad chief Meir Dagan.

    In an observation that may turn out to be ironic, the magazine wrote, "More than from any other single factor, Suleiman's influence stems from his unswerving loyalty to Mubarak."

If Suleiman succeeds Mubarak and retains power, we will likely be treated to plaudits for his distinguished credentials from government officials and US pundits.  We should remember that what they really mean is his ability to brutalize and torture. As Stephen Grey puts it:

    But in secret, men like Omar Suleiman, the country's most powerful spy and secret politician, did our work, the sort of work that Western countries have no appetite to do ourselves.

If Suleiman receives praise in the US, it will be because our leaders know that he's the sort of leader who can be counted on to do what it takes to restore order and ensure that Egypt remains friendly to US interests.

There are some signs, however, that the Obama administration may not accept Suleiman's appointment. Today they criticized the rearrangement of the chairs in Egypt's government. If so, that will be a welcome sign that the Obama administration may have some limits beyond which it is hesitant to go in aligning with our most brutal "friends."

We sure hope that the Egyptian demonstrators reject the farce of Suleiman's appointment and push on to a complete change of regime. Otherwise the Egyptian torture chamber will undoubtedly return, as a new regime reestablishes "stability" and serves US interests.



http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Torture-Career-of-Egyp-by-Stephen-Soldz-110129-181.html
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« Reply #731 on: February 03, 2011, 05:41:01 PM »

Create the crisis and offer a solution, tyranny.

IMF raises spectre of civil wars as global inequalities worsen.

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has warned that "dangerous" imbalances have emerged that threaten to derail global recovery and stoke tensions that may ultimately set off civil wars in deeply unequal countries.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/globalbusiness/8296987/IMF-raises-spectre-of-civil-wars-as-global-inequalities-worsen.html
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« Reply #732 on: February 03, 2011, 05:55:17 PM »

Cash-starved Egyptians turn on each other

For more than a week, Zaki Abdel-Aziz had been out of work and nearly out of money, joining millions of Egyptians living more on hope than cash as the capital plunged into chaos and the economy ground to a virtual halt.

His wife and three children were hungry, tired and tense. There was just over $17 (100 pounds) in their apartment, and no way to borrow more. Then a chilling call came Tuesday night.

"The guy asked me, 'Zaki, you haven't worked for a week, right? You don't have money?'" Abdel-Aziz, 45, recalled. "He said, 'Come out tomorrow and you'll get 100 pounds and a bag of food. All you have to do is join us against those traitors in Tahrir."

Abdel-Aziz, who works in a government records office, angrily rebuffed the offer. "I'm hungry, but I won't sell my soul to eat," he said.


On Wednesday, supporters of President Hosni Mubarak converged on Tahrir Square in central Cairo, fighting deadly battles with protesters who seek the Egyptian leader's ouster.

The protests engulfing Cairo since Jan. 25 have shuttered businesses, forced factories to halt operations, closed banks and the stock exchange, and limited suppliers' ability to restock store shelves. Three days into February, many salaries have not been paid, even as rents are due. The price of some basic goods has spiked over 50 percent and other products have started to disappear from shelves. The shortages and price increases are adding to the economic pinch that many protesters say was among the key catalysts for joining the demonstrations. But they have also fueled anger, both at the government and the protesters, pitting Egyptian against Egyptian.

Anti-government protesters allege that some of those who attacked them in Tahrir Square were paid to do so. And some Egyptians are losing patience with the demonstrators, saying Mubarak's offer not to run for office again was a major concession.

In Ma'sara, an impoverished neighborhood near Cairo's notorious Torah prison, residents complained the only things available in the local market were potatoes, tomatoes and onions, and prices have nearly quadrupled since the protests began. Residents say fighting has broken out over the lack of food, with some threatening the shopkeepers at knifepoint to get them to lower their prices.

More... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110203/ap_on_bi_ge/ml_egypt_feeling_the_pinch
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« Reply #733 on: February 03, 2011, 07:10:04 PM »

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I hadn't thought of that.  Good call, Brocke.
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« Reply #734 on: February 03, 2011, 07:17:33 PM »

Yup...they are going after the Suez Canal...



Days of Rage, Oil Prices, and the Suez Canal
http://www.prisonplanet.com/days-of-rage-oil-prices-and-the-suez-canal.html
Kurt Nimmo Prison Planet.com Thursday, February 3, 2011

Bloomberg warns today that an act of sabotage or a decision by a new regime – possibly headed up by the Muslim Brotherhood – to close the canal and its oil pipeline to punish supporters of Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak could send oil prices through the stratosphere.

Egyptian troops currently guard the canal and its adjacent Suez-Mediterranean oil pipeline but that does not mean the flow of oil – more than 1.7 millions barrels per day – cannot be shut down.

About 2.5 percent of global oil production moves through Egypt via the Suez Canal and the Suez-Mediterranean Pipeline, according to Goldman Sachs.

From 1967 until 1975, Egypt kept the canal closed in response to Israel’s seizure of Arab territory, forcing tankers to travel around the Cape of Good Hope.

Earlier today, investors increased bets that oil prices will likely increase as much as $250 a barrel on concern the unrest in Egypt will shut down the flow of oil through the Suez Canal and spread to Saudi Arabia.

On January 28, Lindsey Williams told Alex Jones the situation unfolding in Egypt is a carefully engineered event instigated by the global elite as part of a plan to bankrupt the United States and send shock waves through the global economy.

In December, Williams told Jones that his insider connections said the price of oil will soon skyrocket to between $15-200 per barrel and this price increase will result in gasoline in the range of $4-5 per gallon.

Williams became a friend and trusted confidant of oil industry executives while serving as chaplain for them and their construction crews building the Alaska pipeline in the 1970s.

Market analysts are unsure how the current crisis will impact oil and the global economy. Robert Halver, from Baader Bank, compared Egypt to a raging volcano. He argued that the recent developments are ominous. Halver said that many experts fear the crisis may expand to other Arab states, which would lead to a decrease in oil supplies and an inevitable rise in prices, as Lindsey Williams predicted last year.

Several Arab states have announced plans to launch “Days of Rage” across the Middle East and Africa. See the map below for details.

“When the revolution comes, everyone will be prepared. At least in Northern Africa and the Middle East, where upsurges of optimism from the increasingly successful revolts in Tunisia and Egypt have led other nations’ oppositions to plan dates for their own,” writes Jason Ditz.

“Activists looking for democratic reforms in Syria and Sudan have begun to organize on Facebook and other social media outlets,” Earth Times reported on January 31. “A smaller group in impoverished Yemen also formed on the social media website.”

Algeria experienced five days of protests late last month and tens of thousands took to the streets in Yemen. Similar scenes played out in Jordan and elsewhere. “Undoubtedly, from Algeria to Yemen, the protesters have been emboldened and inspired by the Tunisian example,” the New Straits Times reported on January 29. The Tunisian protest and the downfall of the 23-year-rule of Zine El Abidine Ben Ali began after a young Tunisian set himself ablaze.

It is now obvious the timely emergence of ElBaradei and the Muslim Brotherhood on the chaotic political scene in Egypt was orchestrated by the global elite, as alluded to by Steven A. Cook, writing for the Council on Foreign Relation’s Foreign Affairs.

“The classic gambits of class-warfare, religion, and race seem to be tools well-oiled and working as smoothly as ever in the hands of the globalists as they dismantle their old ally in Egypt and prepare to replace him with their new man, Mohamed ElBaradei,” writes Tony Cartalucci. “If it is true that the Muslim Brotherhood is also a western intelligence front, it is no surprise then that they have come to support ElBaradei’s ‘National Front for Change’ or that they are fomenting similar unrest in Jordan, Yemen, Saudi Arabia and beyond, all with the Brookings Institute, CFR and other globalists’ gleeful encouragement.”

As Cartalucci notes, the tip off should be ElBaradei’s presence on the Board of Trustees of the Zbigniew Brzezinski/George Soros globalist think-tank, the International Crisis Group.

Mohamed ElBaradei, then literally sitting on the International Crisis Group’s Board of Trustees with the likes of George Soros, would not only be a trusted candidate to sow instability throughout Egypt, but would make an equally trustworthy leader of a pliable proxy regime to turn against Iran, Russia, and China. An ElBaradei controlled Egypt could equally be turned against disruptive members of the other globalist pet project Egypt is conveniently positioned to deal with, the African Union. And last but not least, Egypt controls the Suez Canal. Greater control over Egypt means greater control over the passage of freight through the canal.

ElBaradei and the Muslim Brotherhood, at the behest of the globalists, may indeed close down the Suez Canal, as some observers fear, and send the price of oil skyrocketing into outer space as long predicted by Lindsey Williams and others.

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« Reply #735 on: February 03, 2011, 07:21:27 PM »

Anyone else having trouble with streaming of http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ ?
This has been very stable, a few hiccups but mostly non stop today.

http://www.youtube.com/user/AlJazeeraEnglish
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« Reply #736 on: February 03, 2011, 07:47:03 PM »

White House, Egypt Discuss Plan for Mubarak’s Exit
By HELENE COOPER and MARK LANDLER
Published: February 3, 2011

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is discussing with Egyptian officials a proposal for President Hosni Mubarak to resign immediately, turning over power to a transitional government headed by Vice President Omar Suleiman with the support of the Egyptian military, administration officials and Arab diplomats said Thursday.

Even though Mr. Mubarak has balked, so far, at leaving now, officials from both governments are continuing talks about a plan in which Mr. Suleiman, backed by Lt. Gen. Sami Enan, chief of the Egyptian armed forces, and Field Marshal Mohamed Tantawi, the defense minister, would immediately begin a process of constitutional reform.

The proposal also calls for the transitional government to invite members from a broad range of opposition groups, including the banned Muslim Brotherhood, to begin work to open up the country’s electoral system in an effort to bring about free and fair elections in September, the officials said.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/04/world/middleeast/04diplomacy.html?_r=1&hp
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This is what I have been trying to warn folks about since the 28th.

Suleiman may just inherit the viziership sans election right now.
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« Reply #737 on: February 03, 2011, 08:30:21 PM »

Yup...they are going after the Suez Canal...


I think this whole deal has been about closing down the Suez canal, Im waiting for the "terror attack" to happen anytime now.

It would provide cover for the "greater Israel" (Zio)Nazis in America and elsewhere.

Think USS Liberty.

I think I may spring for a full tank of gas next time I go out. Its already $3.33/gallon of regular here.
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« Reply #738 on: February 03, 2011, 08:40:35 PM »

US hatches Mubarak exit strategy as Egypt death toll mounts
• White House working on plan for transitional government
• Mubarak: 'If I resign today there will be chaos'
• 10 dead and hundreds injured in fresh crackdown


Jack Shenker and Peter Beaumont in Cairo, Harriet Sherwood in Alexandria, Ewen MacAskill in Washington and Julian Borger
The Guardian, Fri 4 Feb 2011 01.57 GMT

The Obama administration is working on a plan in which the Egyptian president, Hosni Mubarak, would stand down immediately in spite of claims yesterday he was intent on clinging on to power until the elections in the autumn.

The White House, the state department and the Pentagon have been involved in discussions that include an option in which Mubarak would given way to a transitional government headed by the Egyptian vice-president, Omar Suleiman. Such a plan has the backing of the Egyptian military, the New York Times reported.

But Mubarak, in an interview with the US media yesterday refused to bow to increasing pressure at home and abroad to stand down immediately, claiming that, though he was fed up and would like to go, he feared chaos if he did so.

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I truly believe this may have been the plan all along, but it is possible it was due to a strategic shift in policy.
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« Reply #739 on: February 03, 2011, 09:20:17 PM »

White House, Egypt Discuss Plan for Mubarak’s Exit
By HELENE COOPER and MARK LANDLER
Published: February 3, 2011

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is discussing with Egyptian officials a proposal for President Hosni Mubarak to resign immediately, turning over power to a transitional government headed by Vice President Omar Suleiman with the support of the Egyptian military, administration officials and Arab diplomats said Thursday.

Even though Mr. Mubarak has balked, so far, at leaving now, officials from both governments are continuing talks about a plan in which Mr. Suleiman, backed by Lt. Gen. Sami Enan, chief of the Egyptian armed forces, and Field Marshal Mohamed Tantawi, the defense minister, would immediately begin a process of constitutional reform.

The proposal also calls for the transitional government to invite members from a broad range of opposition groups, including the banned Muslim Brotherhood, to begin work to open up the country’s electoral system in an effort to bring about free and fair elections in September, the officials said.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/04/world/middleeast/04diplomacy.html?_r=1&hp
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This is what I have been trying to warn folks about since the 28th.

Suleiman may just inherit the viziership sans election right now.

Why is the White House dictating regime change?

I thought this was "spontaneous and organic".

I thought this was a call for democracy and the removal of outside influence over sovereign affairs.

This whole thing has been staged from start to finish. Kissinger is running the show and ElBaradei was option A, now they are going with option B. But, the original peaceful demonstrators never required the Muslim Brotherhood power before the CIA hijacked the whole thing and promoted their front man.

JUST TO UNDERSTAND HOW TOTALLY ABSURD IT IS TO HAVE THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD BE ON THE BALLOTS...

IT IS EQUIVALENT TO SAYING THAT AL-QAEDA SHOULD HAVE A SANCTIONED POLITICAL PARTY IN THE US WITH LESS SCRUTINY THAN CYNTHIA MCKINNEY, LESS INFILTRATION THAN IS DONE BY THE CIA TO THE GREEN PARTY, LESS SURVEILLANCE THAN IS DONE WITH RON PAUL SUPPORTERS.

The entire negotiation is a complete fraud. The globalists need Al-Qaeda in control of 5 countries so when they false flag us (as CFR/CSIS/RAND/WIKILEAKS/MI6 has promised), they need to have a believable enemy. Right now no one believes that you can light a firecracker without the NRO knowing about it. Unless Al-CIA-duh has control of the northern african territories, there will be no plausible enemy to blame.

They are forcing a fake enemy into a sovereign region of the globe with good UN standing. They are just ignoring the 80 million people. The IMF started this shit and the IMF does not collect a UNICEF penny without the G7 Bankster elite New World Order giving permission. THe banksters are exposed and they need the mother of all pearl harbors to distract us while gaining police powers over the people.

Without their northern african manufactured and controlled enemy, RAND Corporation has concluded that they will be indicted for theft, RICO, sedition, etc.
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« Reply #740 on: February 03, 2011, 09:23:03 PM »

US hatches Mubarak exit strategy as Egypt death toll mounts
• White House working on plan for transitional government
• Mubarak: 'If I resign today there will be chaos'
• 10 dead and hundreds injured in fresh crackdown

The Guardian, Fri 4 Feb 2011 01.57 GMT

LOOK AT THE GUARDIAN'S HEADLINE...

Look at the phrase: "Death toll mounts"

Does anyone think the guardian gices a shit about arab death tolls? What about the 2 million death toll in Iraq and Afghanistan. What did the guardian say to that mounting death toll. I will tell you what they said:

"SURGE LONG AND SURGE HARD"

Why is the Guardian pushing for more genocide?
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« Reply #741 on: February 03, 2011, 09:45:14 PM »


"We want total control...but not that kind of total control..."  Roll Eyes



"The senators claim the president actually has more power now, authorized by the Communications Act of 1934, to take action similar to what's been done in Egypt because it allows the president to take over or shut down wire and radio communications providers in the event of a threat or war."



Cybersecurity Bill Authors Slam Egypt Internet Shutdown
Senators have clarified their proposed Internet 'kill switch' legislation in light of President Mubarak's actions.

By Elizabeth Montalbano ,  InformationWeek
February 2, 2011 12:16 PM

Three senators set to reintroduce a cybersecurity bill some believe will give the president power to shut down the Internet have denounced the actions of Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak to deny people access to the Web there.

Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs committee chairman Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Sens. Susan Collins (R-Me.) and Tom Carper (D-Del.) on Wednesday issued a statement criticizing Mubarak's order to state-owned Internet service providers to cut off service in an effort to quell an uprising there.

"The steps the Mubarak government took last week to shut down Internet communications in Egypt were, and are, totally wrong," the senators said. "His actions were clearly designed to limit internal criticisms of his government."

On the contrary, they said, the legislation the three are preparing to re-introduce to Congress that gives the president power to cut off access to critical infrastructure in the U.S. in the event of a cyber-emergency or attack has a different aim. Moreover, it does not empower the president to order ISPs in the United States, which are largely publicly owned, to cut off access to the Web.

"Nothing could be further from the truth," the senators said. "We would never sign on to legislation that authorized the President, or anyone else, to shut down the Internet. Emergency or no, the exercise of such broad authority would be an affront to our Constitution."

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« Reply #742 on: February 03, 2011, 10:11:18 PM »




That's about what it would be, too.

That button would only have one function.
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« Reply #743 on: February 03, 2011, 10:38:06 PM »

US Officials: US-Egypt discuss Mubarak quitting
 AP By MATTHEW LEE and BEN FELLER, Associated Press Matthew Lee And Ben Feller, Associated Press – 23 mins ago

WASHINGTON – The Obama administration is in talks with top Egyptian officials about the possible immediate resignation of President Hosni Mubarak and the formation of an interim government that could prepare the country for free and fair elections later this year, U.S. officials said late Thursday.

Creation of a military-backed caretaker government in Egypt is one of several ideas being discussed as anti-Mubarak protests escalate in the streets of Cairo and other Egyptian cities, the officials said. Those protests are expected to grow in size and intensity on Friday and the administration fears they may erupt into more widespread violence unless the government takes tangible steps to address the protesters' main demand that Mubarak leave office.

The officials stressed the United States isn't seeking to impose a solution on Egypt but noted that the administration had made a judgment that Mubarak has to go soon if there is to be a peaceful resolution to the crisis. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive diplomatic talks, which are continuing. The talks about Mubarak's immediate departure were first reported by The New York Times.

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« Reply #744 on: February 03, 2011, 11:19:40 PM »



playing the world-wide riots card
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« Reply #745 on: February 03, 2011, 11:55:42 PM »

http://www.sandmonkey.org/2011/02/03/egypt-right-now/

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In the meantime, State-owned and affiliated TV channels were showing coverage of Peaceful Mubarak Protests all over Egypt and showing recorded footage of Tahrir Square protest from the night before and claiming it's the situation there at the moment. Hundreds of calls by public figures and actors started calling the channels saying that they are with Mubarak, and that he is our Father and we should support him on the road to democracy. A veiled girl with a blurred face went on Mehwer TV claiming to have received funding by Americans to go to the US and took courses on how to bring down the Egyptian government through protests which were taught by Jews. She claimed that AlJazeera is lying, and that the only people in Tahrir square now were Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas. State TV started issuing statements on how the people arrested Israelis all over Cairo engaged in creating mayhem and causing chaos. For those of you who are counting this is an American-Israeli-Qatari-Muslim Brotherhood-Iranian-Hamas conspiracy. Imagine that. And MANY PEOPLE BOUGHT IT. I recall telling a friend of mine that the only good thing about what happened today was that it made clear to us who were the idiots amongst our friends. Now we know.

Now, just in case this isn't clear: This protest is not one made or sustained by the Muslim Brotherhood, it's one that had people from all social classes and religious background in Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood only showed up on Tuesday, and even then they were not the majority of people there by a long shot. We tolerated them there since we won't say no to fellow Egyptians who wanted to stand with us, but neither the Muslims Brotherhood not any of the Opposition leaders have the ability to turn out one tenth of the numbers of Protesters that were in Tahrir on Tuesday. This is a revolution without leaders. Three Million individuals choosing hope instead of fear and braving death on hourly basis to keep their dream of freedom alive. Imagine that.


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« Reply #746 on: February 04, 2011, 01:47:11 AM »

Posted at 11:00 AM ET, 01/30/2011
The CIA's complicated relationship with Egypt

By Jeff Stein
 
Like a long and mostly unhappy marriage, the CIA’s relationship with Egypt is complicated, with plenty of ups and downs.

The Egyptian security services and the CIA have been co-dependents for over six decades, from 1952, when the young agency supported the Free Officers movement that toppled the monarchy, to the twilight partnership against Islamic fundamentalist terrorism that began in earnest in 1995.

Gamal Abdel Nasser, the army officer who came to power in 1956, wanted assurances that the CIA would not work against him. Of course, he got them, from the American ambassador, only to be disappointed later.

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« Reply #747 on: February 04, 2011, 01:52:50 AM »

This situation reminds me of Iran. They took down the Shah - who was installed by the US - to have the Ayatollahs.

This time they will take down Mubarak to put the Muslim Brotherhood into power, maybe not immediately but in the medium run.

Several years from now they will come and complain about these radical muslims the same they do now with Iran.

History repeating itself.

Just think... war with Israel will be inevitable.
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1945: Bullshit At Nuremberg, Kissinger Joins The Boys, Experiment In Hiroshima
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This is what is called, in the history biz, a revisionist history. American history, at least as far as the general public knows it, is in desperate need of revision, bringing what is taught and what is said about America's past more in line with the truth.

Making the World Safe For Hypocrisy is a chronology of the largely suppressed history of the United States. It is the history that good upstanding Americans are not supposed to know.

Almost everything you read here is based on publicly available information and most historians know all about it. And yet they remain strangely silent, allowing the fantasyland, propagandized version of American history and the fatuous pseudo-patriotic nonsense spewed by politicians and the mass media to stand unchallenged.



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1945: Bullshit At Nuremberg, Kissinger Joins The Boys, Experiment In Hiroshima, Installing Fascists And It's Not A War Crime When We Do It

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1945-49: EUROPE. As about ten thousand top Nazi war criminals and mass murderers are being safely spirited out of Europe by Heinz "Henry" Kissinger, Allen Dulles and their co-conspirators to be incorporated into various U.S. government agencies and U.S. puppet dictatorships around the world, ordinary German soldiers, mainly conscripts, are being herded into concentration camps and subjected to starvation and mistreatment by the U.S.

A month before the end of the war, General Dwight Eisenhower issues special orders regarding the treatment of German prisoners and specifies that "prison enclosures are to provide no shelter or other comforts."

Eisenhower or, more likely, his tame shysters, also come up with the bright idea of designating German prisoners as "Disarmed Enemy Forces" or DEFs, instead of prisoners of war. This sleazy little deception, the predecessor to the "Enemy Combatant" ploy of the George "I'm A Lyin' Guy" Bush regime, is intended to provide a mask of legitmacy to Eisenhower's gross mistreatment of millions of German prisoners of war. It is based, appropriately enough, on the position adopted by Adolf Hitler after the Nazi defeats of Poland and Yugoslavia: that the defeated nation(s) no longer existed and therefore their troops were not covered by the Geneva Convention.

When Generals George Patton and Omar Bradley release German prisoners of war so they can find their way home through the ruins of Germany, Eisenhower countermands their orders to ensure that are held as "Disarmed Enemy Forces" in his concentration camps.

Eisenhower prevents the International Red Cross from providing aid to the German prisoners held by the U.S. or inspecting the camps. When Eisenhower finally allows the Red Cross to enter one of the camps with small quantities of food in February 1946, Red Cross personnel discover that the German prisoners of war are being kept in appalling conditions in gross violation of the Geneva Convention.

Estimates of the numbers of German prisoners who died of exposure, disease and starvation in the concentration camps range from tens of thousands to over a million. Given the suppression of the truth about the camps for the past half century, the truth will probably never be known. In 1989, Canadian author James Bacque, will publish Other Losses which details the treatment of German prisoners of war by the U.S. and estimates that almost a million died of disease, malnutrition and exposure while in American custody. Although, his estimate of the number killed has been challenged, his revelations of the brutal mistreatment of German POWs by the U.S. are not. Even apologists for Eisenhower, while disputing Bacque's figure of almost a million dead, admit that mortality in American-run camps was four times as high as in British camps. The German Red Cross still lists 1,300,000 German prisoners of the Allies as "missing".

When they caught me throwing C-Rations over the fence, they threatened me with imprisonment. One Captain told me that he would shoot me if he saw me again tossing food to the Germans. Some of the men were really only boys thirteen years of age. Some of the prisoners were old men drafted by Hitler in his last ditch stand. I understand that the average weight of the prisoners at Andernach was ninety pounds. I may now be heard when I relate the horrible atrocity I witnessed as a prison guard for one of Ike's death camps along the Rhine. Martin Brech PFC, Guard at the U.S. Army's Andernach Concentration Camp

The German prisoners were properly designated as prisoners of war in 1946, but many were illegally kept as forced labor for years afterwards in violation of the Hague Conventions.

1945: JAPAN. On August 6th, the U.S. commits the most murderous war crime in history when it becomes the first and only country ever to use the atomic bomb in warfare at Hiroshima, Japan. The U.S. had broken the Japanese diplomatic code and knew first hand that Japan was on the verge of military collapse. Shortly before Hiroshima, the U.S. had killed 80,000 civilians in a single night in the fire-bombing of Tokyo. The country was utterly devastated and, with its oil supplies cut off, militarily finished.

The Hiroshima bombing results in the immediate deaths of 150,000 people, almost all of them civilians plus twelve U.S. Navy flyers in the Hiroshima city jail. Another 300,000 Japanese will die lingering, horrible deaths from radiation burns and as a result of radiation poisoning. Fully documented offers of surrender by Japan are deliberately ignored, over the objections of many prominent Allied and U.S. military figures and many of the scientists who had developed the bomb. Dropping the bomb achieved no legitimate military purpose but served to test the bomb’s effectiveness, to make a threatening demonstration of U.S. military might against its own ally, the Soviet Union, and ensured that Japan was occupied by the U.S. and not by the Soviet Union which was bound by agreement to enter the war against Japan two days after Hiroshima and would likely have occupied all or part of the country if the the U.S. hadn't dropped the bomb.

1945: JAPAN. A week after Hiroshima, an atomic bomb is dropped by the U.S. on Nagasaki resulting in the instantaneous deaths of 140,000 people. The total death toll of the two bombs is now over one million, almost all civilians. In addition to being a war crime, although they don't count when we commit them, the atomic bombing of Nagasaki was a “scientific” experiment to determine the differences in yield and effect between the two types of nuclear bomb which had been developed: the uranium 235 bomb dropped on Hiroshima versus the plutonium type dropped on Nagasaki. The deceptively-named U.S. Department of Energy still lists the nuclear annihilation of the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as "tests".

1945: UNITED STATES. The U.S. Army and Navy run "Operation Overcast" which enables as many as three hundred and fifty Nazi war criminals to escape prosecution in Europe so they can be recruited into American military intelligence units and continue ze good work for ze boys in ze back room.

1945: GERMANY. Following an investigation of Ford Motor Company’s role in arming the Nazis before and throughout World War Two, a U.S. Army report characterizes Ford as “the arsenal of Nazism”.

1945: JAPAN. The U.S. installs as puppet Prime Minister, Prince Higashikuni, a member of the formerly maligned Japanese imperial family. Higashikuni, who will only remain in the job for two months, is a classic American choice for the job: a mass murderer and war criminal who had ordered the bombing of Chinese cities including Shanghai and Chongqing. He also authorized the use of poison gas against the Chinese.

1945: UNITED STATES/GERMANY/HUNGARY. The U.S. Treasury Department accuses Nazi shyster Allen Dulles of laundering funds from the Nazi run Bank of Hungary into Switzerland. Similar charges are leveled against Hans Bernd Giesevius, who had worked for Dulles at the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) while he was an agent at the Reichsbank. The U.S. State Department takes responsibility for the investigation and, quelle surprise, it is quickly dropped.

1945: UNITED STATES. Charles E. Wilson, the president of Nazi radar supplier General Electric Corporation, is so delighted with the massive corporate profits generated by World War Two that he suggests a continuing alliance between business and the military for "a permanent war economy" a wish which will be granted in spades. Like many other major U.S. corporations, General Electric has made a fortune happily arming both the Allies and the Nazis, although when it came to vital tungsten carbide from General Electric, the Nazis always came first.

1945-1960s: SOVIET UNION. Old Adolf having been stopped by the filthy commies, the U.S. ruling class steps up Plan B. Hundreds of right wing Russian exiles are organized, trained and armed, latterly by the CIA, then infiltrated into the Soviet Union in order to set up espionage rings, to stir up armed political struggle and to carry out acts of terrorism including assassination and sabotage of trains, bridges, factories, power plants and other infrastructure.

The CIA conducts a massive psychological war against the unsuspecting people of the "free" world highlighted by the covert publishing of well over a thousand anti-Soviet books in English, a number by well-known authors,with content designed by CIA psychological warfare specialists. The books are distributed throughout the world in hundreds of languages.

1945-1991: UNITED STATES. For almost half a century, the CIA and other intelligence agencies, the Pentagon and virtually every U.S. administration will deliberately overstate and distort the economic strength, military capabilities and global intentions of the Soviet Union. The psychological warfare operation is directed primarily against the people of the United States who are maintained in a state of constant fear of the Soviet bogeyman and are, therefore, willing to endure a massive transfer of wealth from those low and middle income Americans who actually pay taxes to the U.S. weapons industry. The commie bogeyman also serves as a convenient excuse for gross violations of the theoretical rights and freedoms of American citizens by their government.

The CIA manufactures phantom Soviet military production capacity, phantom economic figures and phantom international conspiracies as part of its pyschological warfare operation against Americans. The Pentagon manufactures phantom Soviet army divisions and invasion plans. There is a phantom "Bomber Gap", a phantom "Missile Gap", a phantom "Anti-ballistic Missile Gap", a phantom "Spending Gap" and, in the final gasp of absurdity, a phantom "Laser Gap".

The psychological warfare operation is used not only to justify the relentless "Cold War" against the Soviet Union but also as the pretext to justify countless invasions, coups, occupations, mass murders, assassinations and genocides by the U.S. against an almost endless list of nations and people around the world in order to ensure that their resources, their markets and their labor can be shamelessly and ruthlessly exploited by the U.S. ruling class. The tail-wagging U.S. mass media almost wet themselves in their rush to keep Americans scared silly during the period.

A study of U.S. "Cold War" archives by the Los Angeles Times in 1991 concludes that U.S. officials "exaggerated Soviet capabilities and intentions to such an extent that it is surprising anyone took them seriously." What the LA Times fails to say is that without the eager wholesale complicity of the U.S. mass media , including the LA Times, no one would have taken such nonsense seriously.

1945-1956: UNITED STATES. The U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) begins Program "F", the most extensive American study of the health effects on humans of fluoride, a key component of atomic bomb production. Residents of Newburgh, New York are exposed to fluoride in their drinking water for a period of eleven years and their blood and tissue samples are covertly gathered and analyzed. Fluoride, the study finds, has marked adverse effects on the central nervous system but much of the information is suppressed in the name of national security due to the fear that lawsuits by workers contaminated by fluoride will undermine full-scale production of atomic bombs. Fluoride, it turns out, is the most dangerous aspect of nuclear weapons production.

1945-53: PHILIPPINES. As World War Two winds down, the United States and the evil Japanese make common cause against the Philippine resistance movement. During the Japanese occupation, the Philippine elite had eagerly collaborated with the Japanese occupiers as they had with the American occupiers before them. The only real opposition to the Japanese has come from the Huk resistance movement, led by Luis Poblete Taruc.

At war's end, the United States does in the Philippines what it has done in virtually every Axis-occupied country in the world and installs or maintains in power the local fascists who had collaborated with the enemy while attempting to destroy those people who had opposed them. The leader of the Huk resistance to the Japanese, Luis Poblete Taruc, surrenders to the U.S. puppet government and is promptly arrested, tried and sentenced to twelve years in prison for his efforts. Meanwhile the Filipino elite go on their merry way selling out their country to the U.S. ruling class.

The CIA continually subverts democracy in the Philippines by grossly interfering in elections and installs a further series of U.S. puppet dictators as "president", culminating in the long and repressive dictatorship of torturer, mass murderer and master thief Ferdinand Marcos.

1945-present: UNITED STATES. President Harry Truman, approves the importation of German military scientists into the U.S. provided that they are not members of the Nazi party, are not supporters of militarism and are not war criminals. Harry just doesn't seem to realize that he is dealing with Allen Dulles and the boys. U.S. Army Intelligence and what will become the CIA disobey Truman's directive and, using thousands of faked travel papers provided by the Holy Roman Church, organize the escape from war crimes prosecution in Europe of thousands of major Nazi war criminals and mass murderers who are nicely “de-Nazified” for public consumption by being given fictitious non-Nazi backgrounds and are then recruited into the U.S. State Department, U.S. intelligence agencies, the U.S. Army, what will become the U.S. Air Force and NASA and various other U.S. government agencies.

Other Nazis are quietly incorporated into American academic life, into the ubiquitous right wing "think tanks" and foundations which dominate American policy making and the creation of presidential candidates for both parties, into the mass media, into U.S. biological and chemical warfare agencies and other military organizations. By 1955, almost eight hundred of the Nazis will have been reborn as red, white and blue American citizens.

The main plan to orchestrate the escape of the Nazi war criminals from Europe is designated Operation Paperclip. In U.S. government circles, being an accessory after the fact to mass murder by helping Nazi war criminals and mass murderers escape prosecution so they can do their dirty work for the U.S. is called the "military evacuation of scientists".

An individual deeply involved in Operation Paperclip is one Heinz Kissinger, who had entered the U.S. from Germany in 1938, presenting as a Jewish refugee fleeing Nazi persecution. As a private named Henry Kissinger in the U.S. Army, his peculiar talents are quickly spotted by an expatriate Prussian lurking in the U.S. Army, Fritz Kraemer, who will become the shadowy figure behind U.S. militarism for decades to come.

After a stint as virtual dictator of several occupied German towns, a remarkable role for a private, Kissinger becomes principal assistant to General Alexander Bollings, the “godfather” of Project Paperclip, and then works for U.S. Army Counter-Intelligence at the European Command Intelligence School in Oberammergau, Germany. There, Herr Kissinger trains agents to hunt down Nazi war criminals and mass murderers, not to be tried for their war crimes, but to recruit them in order to to employ their well-honed skills directly on behalf of the United States of America. We will be hearing much more of Herr Kissinger.

Operation Paperclip, the merger of the OSS and the Gehlen Organization into the CIA and the other U.S. operations to block the prosecution of Nazi war criminals and incorporate them into its own agencies or the agencies of various U.S. puppet dictatorships, is nothing more or less than the implementation of the Nazis' Plan Odessa. Odessa provided for the escape from war crimes prosecution of Hitler's henchmen and their repositioning around the world in the event of a German defeat. The reborn Nazis would then continue to pursue the goals of the owners of the multinational corporations, including IG Farben, Standard Oil, Krupp, General Motors, Ford, IT&T and Dupont which financed the rise and arming of the Nazis in first place.

Most prominent among the thousands of Nazi war criminals rescued from the gallows and employed by the United States are Gehlen, Walter Rudolph, Walter Rauff, developer of the Nazi gas chamber, Walter Emil Schreiber, Otto Skorzeny, Emil Augsburg whose specialty was the mass murder of Polish Jews and other “undesirables”, “Angel of Death” Joseph Mengele, Hitler’s top biological warfare specialist Erich Traub, SS V1 and V2 rocket scientist Werner von Braun, Adolph Eichmann’s right hand man Alois Brunner and four of Eichmann's closest associates, and Klaus Barbie, the notorious “Butcher of Lyon”. The rabidly anti-Semitic Allen Dulles is instrumental in directly protecting from prosecution his personal favorite, SS mass murderer Jospeph Mengele and Guido Zimmer, a leading figure in the deportation and murder of Italian Jews.

A favored group of Amerinazis is the "radiation experimenters" who will take the results of their concentration camp studies to what will become the CIA to develop torture techniques and weapons using radiation. Among this select group are Boris Rajewski, Gerhard Schubert, Hermann Daenzer, Wolfgang Luther, Dieter Strang and Arthur Demnitz.

Also evading the hangman courtesy of the government of the United States is Dr. Hubertus Strughold who had conducted grotesque “high altitude” experiments on inmates in Dachau, subjecting his victims to ever-decreasing air pressure until their bodies virtually exploded. In his brave new Homeland, Strughold will be repositioned as the cuddly “father of American space medicine".

A true Renaissance man, Strughold also conducted sadistic experiments on concentration camp inmates with mind-altering drugs. In the interests of furthering Nazi science, the CIA will use Strughold’s experimental results as the foundation for its barbaric and criminal experimentation with hallucinogens, truth serums and mind control, including the programming of "lone assassins", on thousands of unwitting Americans and Canadians under its project MKUltra.

After the French discover that the government of the United States has rescued and employed Barbie, a mass murderer of Jewish children, Kissinger's outfit quickly spirits Barbie and Nazi concentration camp doctor Joseph Mengele to the Vatican-run "ratline" where Croatian Nazi priests and others operate a virtual travel agency for Nazi war criminals escaping to South America. In South America, Barbie and Mengele work on CIA projects advising and assisting the death squads of U.S.-armed and maintained dictatorships.

The U.S. arranges for the escape to South America and the Middle East of thousands of other Nazi war criminals who will become central to the ”security” services and death squads of U.S.-installed and maintained puppet dictatorships.

Near the end of the war in Europe, more than $2 billion in gold disappears from the Reichsbank and is widely believed to have been carried by U-boat to South America to finance the activities of the Nazi escapees.

Until documents released under the Freedom of Information Act in the 1980s and in 2000 confirmed the details of Operation Paperclip, the U.S. government repeatedly lied, hard as that may be to believe, about its involvement in sabotaging the prosecution of Nazi war criminals and recruiting them into U.S. government service.

For more than half a century, the U.S. mass media will studiously avoid any examination of the recruitment of thousands of Nazi war criminals and their incorporation into the highest levels of U.S. government agencies. Those in the independent and non-American media who do report the truth are, as usual, dismissed as "conspiracy theorists". An accurate expose of Operation Paperclip published in 1992 by author Linda Hunt will be almost completely ignored by the U.S. mass media.

As of 2004, almost sixty years after the fact, there are still millions of OSS and CIA documents relating to the incorporation of the Nazis into the U.S. government, the CIA, NASA, the American military, the American media and academia which remain unaccountably classified. Self-evidently, the documents contain truths about the pivotal role of Nazis in the activities of the United States and its agencies even more damning that those which have already been unearthed.

1945: UNITED STATES. The World Commerce Corporaton is formed just after the end of the war in Europe, to rebuild "trade" between Germany and South America, a continent which is now pretty densely populated with escaped Nazi war criminals thanks to Nazi shyster Allen Dulles, Heinz "Henry" Kissinger and the U.S. government. By amazing coincidence, one of the attorneys involved in setting up this new money laundering apparatus is none other than Allen Dulles.

1945-49: OCCUPIED GERMANY. The plan for the "Trial of European War Criminals", the Nuremberg trials, is drafted by Secretary of War and Rockefeller proxy Henry L. Stimson. Stimson's role is interesting since, in 1942, he had blocked investigations into the cartel agreements between some of the Nuremberg defendants and American corporations.

Although presented as the fountainhead of various high and mighty principles, Nuremburg is, in fact a sham, a coverup and a legal travesty. The "laws" under which the defendants are charged have been invented by a handful of individuals after the alleged crimes had been committed. Associate U.S. Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas says that the Allies are guilty of "substituting power for principle" at Nuremberg.

I thought at the time and still think that the Nuremberg trials were unprincipled. Law was created ex post facto to suit the passion and clamor of the time. William O. Douglas

The Chief Justice of the United States, Harlan Fiske Stone, calls the Nuremberg trials a fraud.

(Chief American prosecutor Robert H.) Jackson is away conducting his high-grade lynching party in Nuremberg. I don't mind what he does to the Nazis, but I hate to see the pretense that he is running a court and proceeding according to common law. This is a little too sanctimonious a fraud to meet my old-fashioned ideas.
Harlan Fiske Stone


The handful of Nazis prosecuted at the Nuremburg show trials represent a very tiny percentage of the guilty. A few prominent Nazi leaders are executed and a few are sentenced to lengthy jail terms but most are released after serving only parts of their sentences on the orders of Rockefeller front man and Nazi lawyer John McCloy. Nuremberg serves the useful purpose of creating the illusion that the bad guys have been found and punished so that the big time villains can get on with the unfinished business of the Hitler Project.

There are thousands of individuals responsible for the nightmare of Nazism who never appear at Nuremburg. Among these are the thousands of murderers, concentration camp experimenters, torturers and war criminals being spirited away to work for the U.S. government and its South American dictatorships by Allen Dulles and Heinz "Henry" Kissinger.

Also absent from the dock at Nuremburg, since this show is only for "European" war criminals, are the most important players in the Hitler Project including Allen and John Foster Dulles, Averell Harriman, Prescott Bush, John McCloy, William Draper and others. Also absent are the those who financed and armed Hitler before and throughout World War Two including the executives and owners of General Motors, Ford, Alcoa, Standard Oil, Texaco, Dupont, IT&T and many other American corporations. Those in the American eugenics movement who provided the inspiration and financing for the Nazi's "master race" delusion, are likewise missing.

I had no reason to be anti-Semitic until someone made me read the American book, The International Jew, (by Henry Ford) at the impressionable age of seventeen. You have no idea what a great influence this book had on the thinking of German youth. Baldur von Schirach, Hitler Youth Leader, convicted at Nurember.

Happily acquitted at Nuremberg is Hjalmar Schacht, head of the Reichsbank and one of the Dulles brothers closest co-conspirators in setting up the financing of the Third Reich. Gustav Krupp is excused from the travails of Nuremberg on the grounds of ill health.

Sixteen Nazi physicians are convicted of conducting inhuman experiments. Needless to say, luminaries such Joseph Mengele and Erich Traub can't make it to Nuremberg to stand trial because they are busy working for the government of the United States. The defense offered by some of the medical accused at Nuremberg, that they were simply doing exactly what American experimenters had done to black and mentally handicapped people in the U.S. in the preceding few years, is conveniently ignored and seven are sentenced to death.

In 1949, Nazi shyster and Rockefeller front man John M. McCloy, in his position as Military Governor of the U.S. Zone in Germany, will get busy pardoning and commuting the sentences of his erstwhile clients and friends including Nazi industrialists Alfried Krupp and Friedrich Flick. McCloy will drastically reduce the sentences of seventy-four of one hundred and four defendants and commute the death sentences of ten others. German co-conspirators of the Rockefellers and the Dulles brothers in IG Farben are released after only a few years of soft time thanks to the intervention of their good friend, Nazi shyster Allen Dulles.

In the end, probably the only honest thing to come out of the Nuremberg farce was, ironically, the statement by one of the defendants, Hermann Goering:

Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don’t want war, neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter, in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship or a parliament or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." Hermann Goering

1945: UNITED STATES. The U.S. government's Manhattan Project arranges for the injection of plutonium and uranium into patients at Billings Hospital at the University of Chicago, at the University of California Hospital in San Francisco and at Strong Memorial Hospital in Rochester, New York. Only one of the approximately twenty victims gives even uninformed consent and most have no idea at all that they are being injected with plutonium or uranium. A follow up experiment in 1973 on some of the survivors will be conducted without informed consent and the victims will not even be told that they had been injected with plutonium in 1945. None of the experimenters will be put on trial at Nuremberg.

In 1996, Clinton regime Energy Secretary Hazel O’Leary, in announcing a settlement of $4.8 million to be paid to the families of twelve of the victims, will explore the heights of hypocrisy when she says that the U.S. government is "grateful" to the victims for "the tough lessons they have taught us about trust, responsibility, and accountability between the government and the people." Bullshit worthy of conspicuous non-combatant, sexual abuser and liar William "Slick Willy" Clinton himself.

1945-54: VIETNAM. Vietnam had been a French colony before World War Two. During the War, the Vietnamese (led by Ho Chi Minh and backed by the U.S.) had fought tenaciously against the Japanese while the French colonial occupiers of Vietnam collaborated actively with the Japanese. Two million Vietnamese starved to death under French rule while Japanese troops were fed.

After the surrender of Japan, the Vietnamese declare their independence and make Hanoi their capital. They naively hope for U.S. support for democratic rule in Vietnam and, in an even greater show of naivety, base their new constitution on the U.S. Constitution. But Ho and the boys have some silly ideas, for example that the resources of Vietnam should be used for the benefit of the Vietnamese rather than of the Michelin Tire Company and the Rockefellers. Silly Ho. The U.S. quite reasonably allows the French to re-establish colonial rule in the southern part of the country and to set up a puppet dictatorship with Bao Dai as "emperor".

MEXICO: 1945. At a conference in Chapultepec, Mexico, the U.S. calls for an "Economic Charter of the Americas" designed to eliminate what it calls "the scourge of economic nationalism in all its forms." The proposed charter would crush "the philosophy of the New Nationalism (which) embraces policies designed to bring about a broader distribution of wealth and to raise the standard of living of the masses." Lord knows, we can't be havin' none of that.

A State Department political adviser explains to reporters the utterly insane idea of the Latin Americans who "are convinced that the first beneficiaries of the development of a country's resources should be the people of that country." Where do they get these ideas?

1945-47: UNITED STATES. Ooops! In his capacity with U.S. intelligence, Nazi shyster Allen Dulles "loses" the Nazi Party records of Karl Blessing, former Reichsbank officer and head of the Nazi oil cartel, Kontinentale AG. By amazing coincicence, Kontinentale is in partnership with Dulles's principal Nazi client, I.G. Farben, which is in partnership with the Rockefellers' Standard Oil. Like the Standard-Farben cartel, Kontinentale used slave labor during World War Two and was responsible for countless crimes against humanity.

Dulles not only "loses" Blessing's party records but plants a false non-Nazi biography of Blessing in the always cooperative "liberal" and, coincidentally, Jewish-owned, New York Times. Dulles personally vouches for Blessing as a staunch anti-Nazi in order to protect oil interests in the Middle East.

Dulles' coverup of Blessing's Nazi past would be a complete success but for the fact that U.S. Naval Intelligence turns up additional records on Blessing and Kontinentale AG. And who should be assigned to review the records but a young naval officer, one Lieutenant Commander Richard Milhous Nixon? Allen Dulles makes a deal with the notoriously honest Nixon to make the Navy files on Blessing disappear. A grateful Dulles then arranges for lots of cash for Nixon's first Congressional election campaign and a fully compromised "Tricky Dick" Nixon, beholden to Allen Dulles and the boys, is unleashed on an unsuspecting world.

1945-1960s: CHINA. A revolution in China, led by Mao Tse Tung, has enormous popular support. The revolutionary Red Army which had fought against the Japanese occupying China now begins a campaign to oust the corrupt military dictatorship of Chiang Kai-shek which is filled with officials who had collaborated with the Japanese. The U.S. State Department's own White Paper on China admits that Chiang Kai-shek has little support but, in an attempt to keep their fascist boy Chiang in power, the U.S. provides $2 billion to the dictatorship between 1945 and 1949.

While the ruins of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are still cooling down, the U.S. teams up with the Japanese to fight the Chinese Red Army. The U.S. invades China with fifty thousand marines and fifty thousand other troops and "advisers" to prop up the Chiang dictatorship. There are numerous reports of atrocities committed by American forces. American planes are placed at Chiang's disposal to carry the dictatorship's troops.

By the beginning of 1949, Mao Tse Tsung's forces have captured Peking and the war is over. Chiang flees to the offshore island of Taiwan and establishes a vicious fascist dictatorship there, maintained in power by the U.S. The people of Taiwan will soon be slaving away in sweatshops for American corporations. Thousands of Chiang's troops take refuge in northern Burma, where the CIA merges them with recruits from elsewhere in Asia and arms and trains them for terrorist raids into China, often personally directed by CIA "advisers".

1945-69: LIBYA. More than a million Libyans are killed opposing the Fascist Italian colonizers of Libya. At the end of World War Two, as the Italians are driven from North Africa, the U.S. installs the Senoussi family dictatorship under King Idris. A grateful Idris permits the U.S. to construct massive military bases in Libya. When large reserves of oil are discovered, the Senoussi family is only too happy to let the multinational oil companies steal the majority of the wealth while, in the usual arrangement, the dictatorship and its cronies are permitted to steal a smaller amount as their payoff. As always, the vast majority of the population endures hopeless poverty.

1945-75: UNITED STATES. The Stasi, sorry the FBI, organizes a massive and illegal spying program on United States Supreme Court justices which lasts at least until 1975. As files uncovered later will reveal, at least twelve justices are spied on including Earl Warren, William Douglas and Felix Frankfurter. Decades later, some twenty thousand pages of files, including illegal wiretap transcripts will be released. Many more pages are still being withheld from release in the always convenient interests "of national defense or foreign policy".

Aside from the illegality of the spying and wiretapping, the accumulated files put the justices at grave risk of blackmail and coercion by J. Edna Hoover and others, which may well have been the whole idea. At this point, there is no way to determine how many Supreme Court decisions may have been made under duress or what effect the files may have had on Earl Warren's less than sparkling performance on the Warren Commission.

1945-ongoing: UNITED STATES. After World War Two ends, the Nazi shell game set up by the Dulles brothers' works exactly as designed. German assets owned by Nazis via "neutral" Dutch banks are reclaimed. In 1951, Hitler Project functionary Prescott Bush gets his Union Bank shares back from the U.S. Government. They had been seized in 1942 under the Trading With The Enemy Act. Bush and his father-in-law, Nazi front man George Herbert Walker, each end up with Union Bank shares worth about $1.5 million for their efforts on behalf of the Reich, a nice chunk of change in 1951.

But the the big bucks in the Nazi front Union Bank go to the Rockefellers via their "trustee" Roland "Bunny" Harriman. The U.S. Government hands over almost four thousand shares, worth about three billion dollars in 1951.

1945: UNITED STATES. Even with old Adolf stymied, American icon Charles Lindbergh remains convinced that ze master race must rule ze world. In a speech to Washington's Aero Club on December 17th, he proposes his own alternative to the United Nations. It will be a worldwide organization possessing overwhelming military might and guided by, in what seems like a bit of a contradiction, "Christian" ethical principles. It will, of course, be controlled by certified honkies. Obviously, all races are not equal in ability, Lindbergh tells his rapt audience. The world must be governed by "westerners" who have developed modern science, aviation and the unparalleled blessings of the atomic bomb. Just to show he's a lovin' guy, Lindbergh condemns the war crimes trials at Nuremberg for their spirit of "vengeance" against the Nazis.

After the war, Lindbergh moves to Darien, Connecticut, a racially pure enclave in the world's greatest democracy which uses defacto real estate covenants to bar Jews and blacks from owning homes. It is not known if the the inferior races are allowed to enter this Valhalla of old fascist flyers in order to cut the grass and clean the pools.

1945-ongoing: UNITED STATES. Adolf Hitler's top biological warfare expert, Rockefeller-trained Herr Doktor Erich Traub, doesn't have time to make it to Nuremberg to stand trial for crimes against humanity. He's too busy carrying on ze good fight at his cozy new home at the U.S. Naval Medical Research Institute in Bethesda, Maryland where he conducts experiments to determine the lethal doses of more than forty strains of highly contagious viruses for his new masters. For purely defensive purposes you understand.

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« Reply #749 on: February 04, 2011, 02:17:44 AM »

The US certainly benefitted from Nazi Germany. Think of Werner von Braun and NASA.
There would probably have not been a US Space program as we know it and Moon conquest in 1969 without von Braun.

Let's go back to the events in Egypt.

It is clear that if Mubarak leaves today it will be by order of the U.S.
They are already talking about him stepping down. There is no smoke without fire.
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« Reply #750 on: February 04, 2011, 04:14:14 AM »

US Officials: US-Egypt discuss Mubarak quitting
 AP By MATTHEW LEE and BEN FELLER, Associated Press Matthew Lee And Ben Feller, Associated Press – 23 mins ago

WASHINGTON – The Obama administration is in talks with top Egyptian officials about the possible immediate resignation of President Hosni Mubarak and the formation of an interim government that could prepare the country for free and fair elections later this year, U.S. officials said late Thursday.

Creation of a military-backed caretaker government in Egypt is one of several ideas being discussed as anti-Mubarak protests escalate in the streets of Cairo and other Egyptian cities, the officials said. Those protests are expected to grow in size and intensity on Friday and the administration fears they may erupt into more widespread violence unless the government takes tangible steps to address the protesters' main demand that Mubarak leave office.

The officials stressed the United States isn't seeking to impose a solution on Egypt but noted that the administration had made a judgment that Mubarak has to go soon if there is to be a peaceful resolution to the crisis. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive diplomatic talks, which are continuing. The talks about Mubarak's immediate departure were first reported by The New York Times.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110204/ap_on_re_us/us_us_egypt

  Staged, staged staged...  Next act please.

  Come on world.  Are the Egyptians so stupid that  the US has to help them with the details? 
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« Reply #751 on: February 04, 2011, 04:20:40 AM »

This might be more staged than any of us have any idea, but maybe staged more by the spooks on behalf of the globalists than by the globalists directly -- maybe, just to get Suleiman in power or to drop the mask of of HIS police state in Egypt for some reason.

I honestly think Mubarak may be his beard in some way, merely the man that brough him to the table.  Maybe, even, a boogie man like OBL in a way.
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« Reply #752 on: February 04, 2011, 04:27:00 AM »

Why is the White House dictating regime change?

I thought this was "spontaneous and organic".

I thought this was a call for democracy and the removal of outside influence over sovereign affairs.

This whole thing has been staged from start to finish. Kissinger is running the show and ElBaradei was option A, now they are going with option B. But, the original peaceful demonstrators never required the Muslim Brotherhood power before the CIA hijacked the whole thing and promoted their front man.

JUST TO UNDERSTAND HOW TOTALLY ABSURD IT IS TO HAVE THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD BE ON THE BALLOTS...

IT IS EQUIVALENT TO SAYING THAT AL-QAEDA SHOULD HAVE A SANCTIONED POLITICAL PARTY IN THE US WITH LESS SCRUTINY THAN CYNTHIA MCKINNEY, LESS INFILTRATION THAN IS DONE BY THE CIA TO THE GREEN PARTY, LESS SURVEILLANCE THAN IS DONE WITH RON PAUL SUPPORTERS.

The entire negotiation is a complete fraud. The globalists need Al-Qaeda in control of 5 countries so when they false flag us (as CFR/CSIS/RAND/WIKILEAKS/MI6 has promised), they need to have a believable enemy. Right now no one believes that you can light a firecracker without the NRO knowing about it. Unless Al-CIA-duh has control of the northern african territories, there will be no plausible enemy to blame.

They are forcing a fake enemy into a sovereign region of the globe with good UN standing. They are just ignoring the 80 million people. The IMF started this shit and the IMF does not collect a UNICEF penny without the G7 Bankster elite New World Order giving permission. THe banksters are exposed and they need the mother of all pearl harbors to distract us while gaining police powers over the people.

Without their northern african manufactured and controlled enemy, RAND Corporation has concluded that they will be indicted for theft, RICO, sedition, etc.

  It is the same M-O every time. When will the world wake up?  The IMF is the evil financial part of this NWO-led crisis.  They let the Federal Reserve print the money.  They(THE IMF)  borrow  it from "the American people" and we the pitch fork holders have to pay it back and then they lend it to the country in trouble and they (Egypt in this case) are suppose to pay it back and THEY NEVER DO.  ONE OF THE DANGERS OF FIAT MONEY.
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« Reply #753 on: February 04, 2011, 04:35:58 AM »

This might be more staged than any of us have any idea, but maybe staged more by the spooks on behalf of the globalists than by the globalists directly -- maybe, just to get Suleiman in power or to drop the mask of of HIS police state in Egypt for some reason.

I honestly think Mubarak may be his beard in some way, merely the man that brough him to the table.  Maybe, even, a boogie man like OBL in a way.

  We know that Kissinger, Brzezinki, et al are behind the scenes.

  Mubark will be seen as a boggie man IF THE EGYPTIAN PEOPLE ARE TOLD WHAT A SCUMBAG HE REALLY IS---torture camps and of course stealing millions from his own people from the money that the US has given him over the years.  These facts they may never know.

  A good question is that when or if they do get their internet back, how restricted will it be?  We can be sure that they won't get the excellent reporting of AJ's Prison Planet.
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« Reply #754 on: February 04, 2011, 04:48:33 AM »

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_us_egypt;_ylt=AuLpcmTgCFXBcSSah5b_iQVn.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTJwNWpzMWJjBGFzc2V0Ay9zL2FwL3VzX3VzX2VneXB0BGNjb2RlA21wX2VjXzhfMTAEY3BvcwM4BHBvcwM4BHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDdXNvZmZpY2lhbHN0

  Part of the "SCRIPT" below.  As I predicted a few days ago, they want Suleiman (friend of the US-made Egyptian army) to control the country for now.

  Then they want FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS LATER THIS YEAR---what BS.

US officials: Talks on Mubarak leaving immediately



WASHINGTON – Talks are under way between the Obama administration and top Egyptian officials on the possible immediate resignation of President Hosni Mubarak and the formation of a military-backed caretaker government that could prepare the country for free and fair elections later this year, U.S. officials say.
With protests in Cairo and other Egyptian cities expected to grow in size and intensity Friday, the administration fears they may erupt into more widespread violence unless the government takes tangible steps to address the protesters' main demand that Mubarak leave office quickly. Creation of an interim government is just one of several possibilities under discussion, the officials said late Thursday.
The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive diplomatic talks, which are continuing.
The officials stressed that the United States isn't seeking to impose a solution on Egypt but said the administration had made a judgment that Mubarak has to go soon if there is to be a peaceful resolution to the crisis.
"The president has said that now is the time to begin a peaceful, orderly and meaningful transition, with credible, inclusive negotiations," a White House spokesman, Tommy Vietor, said Thursday night. "We have discussed with the Egyptians a variety of different ways to move that process forward, but all of those decisions must be made by the Egyptian people."
White House and State Department officials would not discuss details of the discussions U.S. officials are having with the Egyptians. Vice President Joe Biden spoke with Egyptian Vice President Omar Suleiman on Thursday, a day after a similar conversation between Suleiman and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. Officials said neither Biden nor Clinton made a specific call for Mubarak to resign immediately but pressed for measures that would ease tensions on the streets and set the stage for democratic elections.
An administration official said there is no single plan being discussed with the Egyptians. Rather, the administration is pursuing different ideas with Egyptian figures on how to proceed quickly with a process that includes a broad range of voices and leads to free and fair elections — in essence, different ways to accomplish those goals.
Among those options is a proposal for Mubarak to resign immediately — which the embattled president has refused to do — and for Mubarak to cede power to a transitional government run by Suleiman.
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« Reply #755 on: February 04, 2011, 05:04:26 AM »

U.S. of A.:  M Y O B!!!!
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« Reply #756 on: February 04, 2011, 05:10:36 AM »

U.S. of A.:  M Y O B!!!!


  OK shipgeek, are you really Ron Paul?  This is what he would say.
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« Reply #757 on: February 04, 2011, 05:12:40 AM »

At thi point we can't afford to change any more regimes.


We should MYOB.

And our "allies" should BYOB.
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« Reply #758 on: February 04, 2011, 05:15:49 AM »

At thi point we can't afford to change any more regimes.


We should MYOB.

And our "allies" should BYOB.

  Maybe if we had a legitimate government (not run by Kissinger and Brzezinski) we would mind our own business.
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« Reply #759 on: February 04, 2011, 05:25:45 AM »

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/us-plan-replace-mubarak/


US plan: Replace Mubarak with torture-linked ‘CIA point man’


A US plan to see Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak leave office immediately is reportedly in the works and would see a transitional government formed by Mubarak's vice-president, a former head of Egypt's spy agency and an alleged "CIA point man" who facilitated the "extraordinary rendition" of terrorism suspects.

US officials are discussing a plan with Egyptian officials that would see Mubarak quit immediately and hand over power to a transitional government run by Vice President Omar Suleiman, the New York Times reported Thursday.

Even though Mr. Mubarak has balked, so far, at leaving now, officials from both governments are continuing talks about a plan in which, Mr. Suleiman, backed by Sami Enan, chief of the Egyptian armed forces, and Field Marshal Mohamed Tantawi, the Defense Minister, would immediately begin a process of constitutional reform.
The proposal also calls for the transitional government to invite members from a broad range of opposition groups, including the banned Muslim Brotherhood, to begin work to open up the country’s electoral system in an effort to bring about free and fair elections in September, the officials said.
As spy chief, Suleiman reportedly embraced the CIA's controversial "extraordinary rendition" program, in which terror suspects snatched by the Americans were taken to Egypt and other countries without legal proceedings and subjected to interrogations.



He "was the CIA's point man in Egypt for rendition," Jane Mayer, author of The Dark Side, wrote on the New Yorker's website.

After taking over as spy director, Suleiman oversaw an agreement with the United States in 1995 that allowed for suspected militants to be secretly transferred to Egypt for questioning, according to the book "Ghost Plane" by journalist Stephen Grey.

US officials told the New York Times the US plan to replace Mubarak with Suleiman is one of several under consideration, and there is no evidence yet that the Egyptian leadership will accept it.
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