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« Reply #80 on: December 27, 2007, 11:31:59 AM »

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BTW... MSNBC just before the assassination:
Ron Paul on MSNBC Morning Joe 12/27

Hm. Another thinly veiled threat? Maybe.. but Ron Paul has been getting a lot more media attention since the money bomb.. he's doing a lot more interviews all over the place, so the odds that this would happen as a coincidence go up.

Then again, Bhutto was a popular opposition leader, Ron Paul is a popular opposition leader...
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« Reply #81 on: December 27, 2007, 11:47:39 AM »

Photo of the Scene Before the Attack


Former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto waves from her car just seconds before being attacked Thursday in Rawalpindi, Pakistan.
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Some interesting excerpts

...The former PM returned to the country after eight years of self-imposed exile to a massive show of support in the southern port city of Karachi...

..."Police in Sindh have been put on red alert," said a senior police official. "We have increased deployment and are patrolling in all the towns and cities, as there is trouble almost everywhere."...

...President Pervez Musharraf condemned "in strongest possible terms the terrorist attack that resulted in the tragic death of Bhutto and many other innocent Pakistanis", the state news agency said...

..."The president convened a high-level emergency meeting ... soon after the tragic development...

..."He urged the people to stay calm to face this tragedy and grief with a renewed resolve to continue the fight against terror," the APP news agency said...

...Musharraf, whose popularity has slumped this year, could decide to postpone the vote and reimpose a state of emergency that was only lifted on December 15 after six weeks...

...Today's violence come less than two weeks ahead of January parliamentary elections and as many days after President Pervez Musharraf lifted a six-week-old state of emergency he said was necessary to ensure the country's stability...

...Bhutto's family is no stranger to violence.

Apart from her father's execution, both of her brothers died in mysterious circumstances and she had said al Qaeda assassins tried to kill her several times in the 1990s.

Intelligence reports have said al Qaeda, the Taliban and Pakistani jihadi groups had all sent suicide bombers after her...
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« Reply #82 on: December 27, 2007, 11:51:57 AM »

Hm. Another thinly veiled threat? Maybe.. but Ron Paul has been getting a lot more media attention since the money bomb.. he's doing a lot more interviews all over the place, so the odds that this would happen as a coincidence go up.

Then again, Bhutto was a popular opposition leader, Ron Paul is a popular opposition leader...

I am more concerned of the overall message.  The overall message is "we kill anyone in our way."

As far as the timing of RP being on the show.  The likelihood of it being part of a conspiracy seem implausible.

But the overall message of Pakistan as a lab to study US is apparent:

martial law suspending constitution

removing judges

kidnapping thousands of non-terrorists but lawyers, journalists, intelligencia.

then a few months later....

assassination of the popular leader.

The message is clear whether or not RP was on the show.

Rothschild/Rockefeller/Beatrice want to kill him.  There is no doubt.
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« Reply #83 on: December 27, 2007, 11:54:55 AM »

BTW... MSNBC just before the assassination:

Ron Paul on MSNBC Morning Joe 12/27

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCy3PuXRU3k

FULL: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6975970166716404100

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« Reply #84 on: December 27, 2007, 11:58:45 AM »

FOX News:

BREAKING NEWS: How does the assassination affect the Iowa Caucuses?

The body is not even cold, WTF?

No f-ing shame!

All of the other stations are just talking about "what next?"

Instead of "What happened?"

How quickly they use the corpse for corporate interests.
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« Reply #85 on: December 27, 2007, 12:01:45 PM »

You know, it's really bizarre that most people still don't see this. Just the other day my mother said to me "But the US doesn't have an empire, son! They've never taken over another country!  Sure, they invade, but they never take it over!"

It made me dizzy when she said that.
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« Reply #86 on: December 27, 2007, 12:02:22 PM »

I am more concerned of the overall message.  The overall message is "we kill anyone in our way."

As far as the timing of RP being on the show.  The likelihood of it being part of a conspiracy seem implausible.

But the overall message of Pakistan as a lab to study US is apparent:

martial law suspending constitution

removing judges

kidnapping thousands of non-terrorists but lawyers, journalists, intelligencia.

then a few months later....

assassination of the popular leader.

The message is clear whether or not RP was on the show.

Rothschild/Rockefeller/Beatrice want to kill him.  There is no doubt.

If this is any indication of what would happen if they did take the congressman out, then they would be extremely foolish to do so. I could see riots in the streets and overall national turmoil if they were to kill Paul.
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« Reply #87 on: December 27, 2007, 12:03:14 PM »

NPR Eyewitness Account

Listen: Bombing witness Farah Ispahani, member of Bhutto's media team, on 'The Bryant Park Project'
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« Reply #88 on: December 27, 2007, 12:05:45 PM »

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assassination of the popular leader.
The message is clear whether or not RP was on the show.
Rothschild/Rockefeller/Beatrice want to kill him.  There is no doubt.

Yeah.

The man has balls, that's for sure.  

Do the Pakistani's have another political leader they can rally behind at the moment?  Not that ideally people should even *have* political leaders, but given the current paradigm, who will fill her shoes to stand up to Musharaff?
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« Reply #89 on: December 27, 2007, 12:05:57 PM »

You know, it's really bizarre that most people still don't see this. Just the other day my mother said to me "But the US doesn't have an empire, son! They've never taken over another country!  Sure, they invade, but they never take it over!"

It made me dizzy when she said that.

My mother said the same thing! I had to explain to her that countries like Iraq and Afghanistan don't have to be official US protectorates to be considered part of our empire. We are the occupying force in both nations which pretty much means that we have conquered both making them part of the American Empire.
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« Reply #90 on: December 27, 2007, 12:07:18 PM »

Yeah.

The man has balls, that's for sure.  

Do the Pakistani's have another political leader they can rally behind at the moment?  Not that ideally people should even *have* political leaders, but given the current paradigm, who will fill her shoes to stand up to Musharaff?

I do not think so, the opposition already said they are boycotting the elections.
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« Reply #91 on: December 27, 2007, 12:12:15 PM »

Here are the talking points to watch for:

"We have no reason to believe that the nukes are being shipped to America to blow up Chicago."

In other words, they will create a scenario that is implausible to start the nuke conversation and "National Threat" issue.  Then they will say, "Al-Qaeda (you know the 9/11 Al Qaeda) are in Pakistan."  So the same way we got into Iraq will be used to get into Pakistan.

There will be leaked classified info about how the nukes are not as secure as we thought, etc.

We need to just get out of there, just leave already.  We will never understand the complexity of Middle Eastern politics.
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« Reply #92 on: December 27, 2007, 12:13:15 PM »

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Listen: Bombing witness Farah Ispahani, member of Bhutto's media team, on 'The Bryant Park Project'

"We were not allowed to bring in investigators from Scotland Yard to see who were the perpetrators of that blast." (referring to previous assassination attempt)
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« Reply #93 on: December 27, 2007, 12:21:31 PM »

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« Reply #94 on: December 27, 2007, 12:23:35 PM »

Moments before...

Expolsion...

Aftermath...
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« Reply #95 on: December 27, 2007, 12:26:47 PM »

MSNBC's reporting that they have magically found the murder weapon!
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« Reply #96 on: December 27, 2007, 12:32:28 PM »


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« Reply #97 on: December 27, 2007, 12:33:23 PM »

This is excerpted from..
http://www.newsweek.com/id/82139

This is going to be a jumbo anti-Bush/America propaganda (in the Asian/ Muslim world) as everyone KNOWS Musharraf is a puppet for Wall Street..... This may be the beginning of something very big and awful....

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Tragically, however, the assassination of the 54-year-old Bhutto was all too thinkable—indeed, it was expected by the victim herself. Upon her return to Pakistan last October after eight years in exile, Bhutto had written a letter to Musharraf—and saw to it that it was hand-delivered—warning him that if she were killed he should investigate certain officials in his government. Bhutto and her top security officials had complained repeatedly about the lax security provided by Musharraf's government. In recent days, as she stepped out for political rallies more and more ahead of the scheduled Jan. 8 national elections, her aides had warned that the jammers supplied to them by the government—intended to stop remote-controlled bomb devices—weren't working properly.

Whoever was to blame for the assassination, the focal point of the outrage at the moment seems to be Musharraf himself—and, by extension, the Bush administration, which has supplied him with about $1 billion a year in an increasingly controversial aid program. "Musharraf, you dog," Bhutto supporters chanted as rioting broke out throughout the country, including the capital of Islamabad and in Karachi and Lahore, where shops were torched. As unrest spread, the military was called into rural areas of Sindh to control the rioting, aiports were closed, and rail services were suspended.
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« Reply #98 on: December 27, 2007, 12:34:19 PM »

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/world/asia/28cnd-policy.html

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Mr. Bush referred to the killer — a single gunman who then detonated a suicide bomb, according to reports — as “murderous extremists,” evidently accepting the idea that those who killed her are in the same league as Al Qaeda, though there is no immediate evidence of any terrorist group’s involvement.

What a confusing paragraph! Is it one or many killers? MSM doing a sloppy job with the coverup yet again.
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« Reply #99 on: December 27, 2007, 12:35:56 PM »

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/world/asia/28cnd-policy.html

What a confusing paragraph! Is it one or many killers? MSM doing a sloppy job with the coverup yet again.

That looks intentional.
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« Reply #100 on: December 27, 2007, 12:37:27 PM »

Who killed Benazir Bhutto? The main suspects!!!

Jeremy Page, South Asia Correspondent
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3100052.ece

The main suspects in Benazir Bhutto’s assassination are the Pakistani and foreign Islamist militants who regarded her as a heretic and an American stooge and had repeatedly threatened to kill her.

But fingers will also be pointed at Inter-Services Intelligence, the agency that has had close ties to the Islamists since the 1970s and has been used by successive Pakistani leaders to suppress political opposition.

Ms Bhutto narrowly escaped an assassination attempt in October, when a suicide bomber killed about 140 people at a rally in the port city of Karachi to welcome her back from eight years in exile.

That month, two militant warlords based in the lawless northwestern areas of Pakistan, near the border with Afghanistan, had threatened to kill her on her return.

One was Baitullah Mehsud, a top commander fighting the Pakistani army in the tribal region of South Waziristan. He has close ties to al-Qaeda and the Afghan Taleban.

The other was Haji Omar, the “amir” or leader of the Pakistani Taleban, who is also from South Waziristan and fought against the Soviets with the Mujahidin in Afghanistan.

After that attack Ms Bhutto revealed that she had received a letter signed by a person who claimed to be a friend of al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden threatening to slaughter her like a goat.

She accused Pakistani authorities of not providing her with sufficient security and hinted that they may have been complicit in the bomb attack. Asif Ali Zardari, her husband, directly accused the ISI of being involved in that attempt on her life.

Ms Bhutto stopped short of blaming the Government directly, saying that she had more to fear from unidentified members of a power structure that she described as allies of the “forces of militancy”.

Analysts say that President Musharraf himself is unlikely to have ordered her assassination, but that elements of the army and intelligence service would have stood to lose money and power if she had become Prime Minister.

The ISI, in particular, includes some Islamists who became radicalised while running the American-funded campaign against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan and remained fiercely opposed to Ms Bhutto on principle.

Saudi Arabia, which has strong influence in Pakistan, is also thought to frown on Ms Bhutto as being too secular and Westernised and to favour Nawaz Sharif, another former Prime Minister.


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« Reply #101 on: December 27, 2007, 12:53:49 PM »

Bhutto supporters protest in the streets

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/pakistan_bhutto_anger_dc

 ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistan put its paramilitary forces on "red alert" across the country on Thursday after the assassination of opposition leader Benazir Bhutto sparked violent protests by her supporters.

President Pervez Musharraf denounced what he called a terrorist attack and appealed for calm after angry backers of the slain former prime minister took to the streets across Pakistan, from the Himalayas to the southern coast.

The unrest was predictably fiercest in her native Sindh province and its capital, Karachi.

"Police in Sindh have been put on red alert," said a senior police official. "We have increased deployment and are patrolling in all the towns and cities, as there is trouble almost everywhere."

Reports said security was deteriorating in Karachi, where thousands poured on to the streets to protest. At least three banks, a government office and a post office were set on fire, a witness said.

Tires were set on fire on many roads, and shooting and stone-throwing was reported in many places. Most shops and markets in the city shut down.

At least 20 vehicles were torched in the central Sindh town of Hyderabad.

There were also small protests in Rawalpindi and the nearby capital, Islamabad.

Protesters blocked roads with burning tyres and chanted slogans against President Pervez Musharraf in Muzaffarabad, capital of Pakistani Kashmir in the mountainous north.

Police said they had been ordered to block the main road between Punjab province and Sindh province, apparently to stop the movement of protesters.

Disturbances were also reported in the southeastern city of Multan, although details were sketchy. In the eastern city of Lahore, Bhutto party workers burnt three buses and damaged several other vehicles, police said.

Trouble was reported from the interior of Sindh province, including the Bhutto ancestral home at Larkana, police said.

"The situation is not good in the interior of Sindh. A large number of people have come out on the roads in many cities to protest," said senior police official Fayyaz Leghari.
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« Reply #102 on: December 27, 2007, 12:55:35 PM »

CNN interviewing the photographer now:

there are reports of a sniper.
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« Reply #103 on: December 27, 2007, 01:03:12 PM »

Chris Matthews: "This helps John McCain and Ghuliani" Yet another MSM talking head I can't stand.

And now this gem from Matthews is total lunacy: "Communists' biggest fears were the liberals and socialists". Now last I checked, communism is pretty much leftism/socialism, so in turn Matthews is saying communists fear themselves. What a moron.
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« Reply #104 on: December 27, 2007, 01:03:26 PM »

Nawaz Sharif

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...Nawaz Sharif, also a former Pakistani prime minister, told grief-stricken Bhutto supporters outside the hospital: "I assure you that I will fight your war from now on."
 
He said he shared the grief of "the entire nation".

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/737B73AE-EE5D-4C41-8CA2-E04B356FBCBC.htm

Nawaz Sharif - Alleged meetings with Osama bin Laden
Khalid Khawaja, a retired officer of the Pakistan Air Force who was in the ISI in the late 80s, rejected a recent denial by the Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz) that its leader had ever met Osama bin Laden.[4] Muttahida Majlise Amal President Qazi Hussain Ahmed had said in a recent interview that Sharif had repeatedly met Bin Laden, who had offered him money to topple the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) government in 1990...

...Nawaz was thrown in prison and tried by Pakistan's Anti-Terrorism Courts, which handed down a life sentence for hijacking in 2000. The military government agreed to commute his sentence from life in prison to exile in Saudi Arabia. His family moved with him. His wife and senior members of his party formed an anti-military coalition along with the Pakistan People's Party, previously the major opposition to Sharif's Muslim League. Nawaz and the PPP have only offered token resistance to President Musharraf's government. Efforts are mainly restricted to criticism through the media...

Amongst the shock of the death of former Pakistani Prime Minsiter Benazir Bhutto Mr Sharif has announced that he will boycott the 8 January elections and has called for President Pervez Musharraf to resign due to the lack of security leading up to Benazir Bhutto's death.

Shortly after the murder of Benazir Bhutto, Xinhua News Agency reported a four of Sharif's party workers shot dead at Karal Chowk in an attack on a procession to meet him. Although the gunmen were described as "unidentified", Nawaz Sharif accused Musharraf supporters PML(Q).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nawaz_Sharif

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« Reply #105 on: December 27, 2007, 01:09:25 PM »

Three shot dead during Sharif election campaign
Posted 7 hours 39 minutes ago

Gunmen have opened fire on supporters of former Pakistani prime minister Nawaz Sharif as he campaigned for January elections, killing three of them, a security official said.

Mr Sharif blamed supporters of the party that backs President Pervez Musharraf for the violence, the worst directly related to the January 8 polls since campaigning began in earnest in mid-December.

But a spokesman for the pro-Musharraf party denied that its workers were involved in the shooting near the city of Rawalpindi.

"The shooting began when Nawaz workers tried to hang a banner near an opposing candidate's office," said the security official, who declined to be identified.

"Three people, Nawaz workers, were killed and two wounded."

Mr Sharif said earlier he had been told by police that members of the pro-Musharraf Pakistan Muslim League (Q) were responsible.

Mr Sharif was several kilometres away from the scene of the shooting, on his way to Rawalpindi from a rally in the town of Gujjar Khan in Punjab province.

A spokesman for the pro-Musharraf party dismissed suggestions that his workers had been involved as a "baseless allegation".

"None of our workers were involved. We strongly condemn this incident, and we hope the law will take its course and the culprits are duly punished," spokesman Tariq Azim Khan said.

After the shooting, police and party guards beefed up security around Mr Sharif who got into a bullet-proof vehicle in his convoy.

Earlier, Mr Sharif, who was overthrown by Mr Musharraf in a 1999 coup and allowed back into the country just last month after seven years in exile, had called for a revolution to unseat the pro-Musharraf party.

"You have to bring about a revolution," Mr Sharif told a crowd of about 10,000 supporters in Gujjar Khan.

"January 8 is a day of referendum and you have to defeat the turncoats of the Q League by voting for our candidates, that is the revolution."

Mr Sharif has been barred form running in the January election because of past criminal convictions he says were politically motivated, but is campaigning for his party, the Pakistan Muslim League.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/27/2128025.htm
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« Reply #106 on: December 27, 2007, 01:12:20 PM »

Update on RP on Morning Joe, the first part:

RP continues to drop knowledge on a mind-controlled public.  Wait until the world finds out that the country's most esteemed abolishonist was against Lincoln's trashing of the US constitution.  Wait until they find out that Lincoln voted "NO" to repeal slavery.  You cannot keep shouting lies to truth!  He said, " you are not brave enough to read the truth!"

I almost shit my pants!

RP calls it like it is, these total media whores are trying to tell Dr. Paul about American History.  I bet they never read a book that was not approved by Rockefeller.

You are not brave enough to find out the truth, but we are!

We can handle the truth!

We are tired of the lies!
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« Reply #107 on: December 27, 2007, 01:14:30 PM »

Three shot dead during Sharif election campaign
Posted 7 hours 39 minutes ago

Gunmen have opened fire on supporters of former Pakistani prime minister Nawaz Sharif as he campaigned for January elections, killing three of them, a security official said.


Signs of the beginning of a full civil war.

Iraq

Afghanistan

Now Pakistan

The whole middle east...

Albert Pike had an insane plan, and now the leaders all over who are carrying it out are more insane than he was.
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« Reply #108 on: December 27, 2007, 01:17:36 PM »

Bhutto Assassination Is A Message To Ron Paul

Now that we know the Globalists are considering the assassination of Ron Paul from Daniel Estulin's insider information, it's only a logical conclusion that Bhutto's assassination was a direct warning to Ron Paul from the Globalists.

Bhutto had the support of the people in Pakistan, despite the Globalists backing of Musharraf.

Ron Paul has the support of the American people, despite the Globalists backing of Hillary or Giuliani.

The Globalists always take out anybody who has the backing of the people and can try to change things for the better whether it's Ghandi, JFK, Martin Luther King, RFK, Anwar Sadat, Yitzhak Rabin, Princess Diana, JFK Jr., Paul Wellstone and now Bhutto.

It's clear now that Ron Paul will most likely be the Globalists next target and his security detail needs to redouble their security efforts.
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« Reply #109 on: December 27, 2007, 01:29:38 PM »

ARLEN SPECTER WAS SCHEDULED TO MEET WITH BHUTTO TONIGHT (WTF?)

Specter: "We can't let the terrorists win."

He keeps repeating the lies..."suicide bomber...blah blah blah..."

What do you expect from Mr. Magic Bullet?     It's obvious Bhutto caught her own magic bullet today.
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« Reply #110 on: December 27, 2007, 01:35:05 PM »

MSNBC's reporting that they have magically found the murder weapon!

Did they find a package of curtain rods?   Like the ones planted at the Book Depository?

Next they'll tell us it has a name stamped on it; A.J. Hidell.
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« Reply #111 on: December 27, 2007, 01:43:56 PM »

The MSM is pushing the Al-Qaeda line pretty hard. Considering Al-qaeda is given marching orders from the CIA through the ISI then they are most likely correct, unfortunately the mass public thinks Al-qaeda are boogeymen out to kill everyone. This is a military op constructed and made to let happen from the get go. Find some pissed off kid, train him and use him and his religious motivation as an assassin then when he kills himself via the use of a bomb you can call it radical Islam. This is sick and people will believe the garbage flashing before their eyes. Her supporters know the truth, too bad the rest of the world does not.

RIP Bhutto
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« Reply #112 on: December 27, 2007, 01:56:39 PM »

MSNBC's reporting that they have magically found the murder weapon!

It was right next to Mohammed Atta's passport
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« Reply #113 on: December 27, 2007, 02:12:41 PM »

On CNN now.  Wolf Blitzer reports that she sent email before her death stating that if anything happens to her, it is Masharraf's responsibility.
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« Reply #114 on: December 27, 2007, 02:14:33 PM »

It was right next to Mohammed Atta's passport

And JFK's brain!
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« Reply #115 on: December 27, 2007, 02:16:31 PM »

On CNN now.  Wolf Blitzer reports that she sent email before her death stating that if anything happens to her, it is Masharraf's responsibility.

Kind of like that letter Diana wrote two weeks before she was killed that said "Charles was going to kill her in a staged car wreck".
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« Reply #116 on: December 27, 2007, 02:34:46 PM »

Lee Harvey Oswald bullet (which is still in flight) made its landing in Pakistan 44 years later.

Who did the bullet hit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQOyRH0bql4
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« Reply #117 on: December 27, 2007, 02:40:17 PM »

I have just had one of those HOLY SHIT!moments.She really did have to go,just listen to what she says at 6 minutes 12 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ


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« Reply #118 on: December 27, 2007, 02:42:13 PM »

Ron Paul on cnn now.

Wolf was trying to get RP to recant his stance of getting out of the affairs of other countries, in the wake of the assassination.  Ron Paul did not budge from his stance, of course.  Wolf then asked RP his prediction for the upcoming primaries.  RP said he can not say for sure, since he does not know, but he felt he was going to do better than most people think.   
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« Reply #119 on: December 27, 2007, 02:47:36 PM »

Ron Paul on cnn now.

outstanding!

thanks for the head's up
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