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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2011, 02:33:16 AM » |
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Well, on the foreign policy side, there has been negligible change.
On the domestic side, there has been a great deal -- none of it any damn good.
That would be my serious answer in a nutshell.
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2011, 04:09:06 AM » |
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I'll give him a D-.
A lot of poor Americans (Bless their hearts), who have lost there jobs, are lucky to have spare change in their pockets.
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2011, 04:33:36 AM » |
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VERY VERY DISSAPOINTING INDEED
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2011, 05:13:29 AM » |
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I give obama a Incomplete as he has failed at everything. pic speaks for itself. Obomunism, A illness that can kill Millions!!  |
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I am a realist that is slightly conservative yet I have some republican demeanor that can turn democrat when I feel the urge to flip independant.
The truth shall set you free, if not a 45ACP round will do the trick.. HEHE
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2011, 05:43:32 AM » |
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Well Change we can believe in... we all believed that his reign will end in more tyranny so he kept his word. Now we should ask the Obamanoids what they think now. That would be quite interesting. Thats why we need to abolish secret elections. If there is a log about who voted for who then people would be more careful who they vote for and we can specificly ask them. So after the dictator falls noone can lie and say he didnt vote for him. Its kinda stupid really... why have a secret vote? It benefits the fraudsters.
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citizenx
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2011, 06:02:37 AM » |
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Well Change we can believe in... we all believed that his reign will end in more tyranny so he kept his word. Now we should ask the Obamanoids what they think now. That would be quite interesting. Thats why we need to abolish secret elections. If there is a log about who voted for who then people would be more careful who they vote for and we can specificly ask them. So after the dictator falls noone can lie and say he didnt vote for him. Its kinda stupid really... why have a secret vote? It benefits the fraudsters.
Why don't you abolish secret elections in Deutschland first and see how that works out there. That is one of the most asinine suggestions I have seen around here in a long time. Was that just a "modest suggestion" or can you really type without thinking? You've said a lot of things that are out there, but that takes the cake. We don't need to abolish any more of our consitutional republic than our politicians already have. Not one bit. Hands down, not just batshit crazy, asinine. |
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2011, 06:13:11 AM » |
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Why don't you abolish secret elections in Deutschland first and see how that works out there.
That is one of the most asinine suggestions I have seen around here in a long time.
Was that just a "modest suggestion" or can you really type without thinking?
You've said a lot of things that are out there, but that takes the cake.
We don't need to abolish any more of our consitutional republic than our politicians already have.
Not one bit.
Hands down, not just batshit crazy, asinine.
Obviously  we all can make mistakes... I think most of us have found that we got incorrect change - but maybe they should b made to have to put the totals on the voting machines? A secret ballot is one thing but a secret result is something else entirely. |
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iks83
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2011, 06:19:09 AM » |
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Why don't you abolish secret elections in Deutschland first and see how that works out there.
That is one of the most asinine suggestions I have seen around here in a long time.
Was that just a "modest suggestion" or can you really type without thinking?
You've said a lot of things that are out there, but that takes the cake.
We don't need to abolish any more of our consitutional republic than our politicians already have.
Not one bit.
Hands down, not just batshit crazy, asinine.
It seems you misunderstood... I dont want to see elections being abolished I want them to be not secret anymore. Meaning that 10000 people vote for A, 8000 people vote for B and then B wins cause thats what the results say on TV. No one can check if the vote you gave was actually counted correctly. Especially with electronic voting where the machine can swap them. Why the sudden explosion of rage and insults against me? |
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2011, 06:41:58 AM » |
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A controlled issuance, untraceable, anonymous ballot is sacrosanct to the process, it protects the voter from coercion.
What I'm saying in response here is that in multiple choice contests there's no justification for hiding the current tally.
Knowing the current standings would make it easier for people to make their final decision and vote strategically rather than wasting votes picking the lesser of two evils.
In the current system only people on the west coast get to do this, why don't polls open later in the east?
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citizenx
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2011, 06:43:21 AM » |
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It seems you misunderstood... I dont want to see elections being abolished I want them to be not secret anymore. Meaning that 10000 people vote for A, 8000 people vote for B and then B wins cause thats what the results say on TV. No one can check if the vote you gave was actually counted correctly. Especially with electronic voting where the machine can swap them. Why the sudden explosion of rage and insults against me?
No, I got that. That is actually a stupid idea. And I have never said that to anyone on this forum before. Like WTF? |
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iks83
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2011, 06:57:54 AM » |
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Oh enlighten me Mr. X... why is it such a stupid idea?
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citizenx
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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2011, 07:01:45 AM » |
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Mr. iks,
Why is getting rid of the secret ballot system a stupid idea?
Are you with the Communists or against them?
It's really that simple.
Should people be punished for the way they vote?
Because under the current corrupt system that is exactly what would happen in the Soviet-American police state.
You really don't get that.
America right now is not a Swiss canton.
Wake the fu#% up.
Oh, but thanks for trying to illuminate me.
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citizenx
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2011, 07:05:08 AM » |
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A controlled issuance, untraceable, anonymous ballot is sacrosanct to the process, it protects the voter from coercion.
Exactly. It is a very simple concept. How somebody cannot get that is just beyond me. |
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iks83
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2011, 07:24:42 AM » |
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I am of course aware of that and know that it won't work under the current regime. But what about petitions? You are listed by name on there... so we need to get rid of them now?
There should be an easy way for everyone to verify that when they cast a vote that the vote is counted correctly and not switches party from input to end result. I'm thinking about the future here. I would like to see Internet elections one day... that dont need fingerprints or a dna sample so please dont start on that. Seriously its like a Kindergarden.
Anyways never mind then. It was just an idea. Thanks for all the insults. Now back to Obama then.
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citizenx
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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2011, 07:42:25 AM » |
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Now back to Obama then.
Good. It's not like we don't have enough on our hands. Speaking of hands, sorry if I was too heavy-handed. I'm sure you can take it, though. I have seen you dish it out. |
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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2011, 07:50:41 AM » |
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Change is all we have left!  |
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"Logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." ~ Rod Serling
"Cops today are nothing but an armed tax collector" ~ Frank Serpico
"To be normal, to drink Coca-Cola and eat Kentucky Fried Chicken is to be in a conspiracy against yourself."
"People that don't want to make waves sit in stagnant waters."
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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2011, 08:02:25 AM » |
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I think he is much worse than Dubya. Honest. We knew where the other one came from. This one... we don't really know. and the wife... she is fugly!!!!!  |
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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2011, 08:10:54 AM » |
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Q: What do I think ?
A: I think that I could never have predicted that the government of my country
could have fallen so low... or be led by a "pretty face"
who is obviously attempting to hypnotise
the American people using NLP techniques.
I am amazed that so many of my psychologist friends
cannot see this sham of a production for what it is,
and have been taken in by this pseudo-left-wing liar.
They still want to give him a chance !
Q: How do I feel ?
I am thoroughly disgusted with the low level of morality this government demonstrates.
I am grateful that I am not living in the USA right now,
as I would be trying to survive in a cardboard box.
I dread getting into taxi cabs where my Muslim drivers seriously ask me:
"What do you think of Obama ?"
I feel that I owe many people an apology for the wrong that the USA is doing
under this administration , and since I may be the ONLY American that many meet,
I apologise, then begin to cry.
Most of all, I am heart-broken that the USA is in the chaotic shape that it is today.
I cry at least every 2 weeks that my country no longer feels like my country to me.
I feel homesick and homeless at the same time,
and angry that more Americans are not waking up and changing this government.
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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2011, 11:45:07 AM » |
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I haven't watched Obama in a long while as I skip his speeches and when I did peak at his latest, his grey hair speaks volumes in which I don't even have to say a word.
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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2011, 03:19:27 PM » |
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"That 'Change' have got to be here somewhere. Nope, no 'Change' over there. Maybe under here."  |
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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2011, 03:48:58 PM » |
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Well Change we can believe in... we all believed that his reign will end in more tyranny so he kept his word. Now we should ask the Obamanoids what they think now. That would be quite interesting. Thats why we need to abolish secret elections. If there is a log about who voted for who then people would be more careful who they vote for and we can specificly ask them. So after the dictator falls noone can lie and say he didnt vote for him. Its kinda stupid really... why have a secret vote? It benefits the fraudsters.
Abolishing secret vote? No way.We are fighting like hell to keep the union vote secret. Not a good idea! All I can say about this post,and I say it with a sad heart, He may be the only Pres. to keep his word. Change! Freightening for sure |
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Mark12:
4And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
5But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him
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« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2011, 03:55:21 PM » |
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I think Obama did an awesome job his first 2 years.
More people are waking up to tyranny than ever before.
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« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2011, 08:48:03 PM » |
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I give obama a Incomplete as he has failed at everything. pic speaks for itself. Obomunism, A illness that can kill Millions!! That is an awesome picture it does reveal quite a bit, worth more than a thousand words. |
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« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2011, 08:48:58 PM » |
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I think Obama did an awesome job his first 2 years.
More people are waking up to tyranny than ever before.
Excellent! |
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