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Offline Dok

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Re: Expect an even more f**ked up plot for Torchwood Series 4
« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2011, 08:39:26 AM »
There is a scene where the Doctor lady asks about the name Torchwood and if they are investigators. Jack responds that they are more like freedom fighters, and she says that makes them sound like terrorists.

so if your a freedom fighter you are a terrorist.
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Re: Expect an even more f**ked up plot for Torchwood Series 4
« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2011, 09:42:34 AM »
Of course you are, hasn't that always been the case?

BTW, I'm a bit of an Otaku and have seen many Anime series with similar plots.
Seems like they are getting ready to drop whatever axe they are thinking of.

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Re: Expect an even more f**ked up plot for Torchwood Series 4
« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2011, 09:17:47 AM »
Torchwood Miracle Day Ep 106/S04E06 - "The Middle Men"

This episode starts out by talking about suicides and that the only way to guarantee unconsciousness is to jump at least 45 feet high. They stressed this point quit a bit. 45 feet up...

All category 1 people are considered dead and will be taken to the concentration camps to be burned.  They finally strted to use that word when Gwen confronted a doctor who signs the orders. the Doctor of course goes right along with it, knowing what is going to happen ans says, its the law just following orders what am i to do? Gwen says just say no.

Next we have Ernie Hudson as a big wig in Phicorp, he is looking into the origins of Miracle Day himself and is using people all over the world to investigate it. He sends on person into a place in Singapore that Phicorp bought back in the early 90's. The guy come out and tells Hudson he found nothing and then jumps off a building committing suicide, or at least unconsciousness as hes is over 45 feet up.

Jack confronts Hudsons character to help expose Miracle Day, The only thing Hudson can tell Jack is that he uncovered a phrase that came out of Italy in hte 90's and was covered up. The Blessing. He also confirms that Phicorp has been planning this for over 5 years, but cannot prove any of it.

Rex confronts the director at the San Pedro concentration camp, and he say he is just following orders. At the end Torchwood exposes everything through the news, and the White House comes out and says that we exist in a state of emergency and everything that is being done has been approved Congress. its all good. they are just following orders.
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Re: Expect an even more f**ked up plot for Torchwood Series 4
« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2011, 05:42:30 AM »
I like Torchwood, its not pure prop like V. Doing a great job exposing quite a few important but taboo subjects. Some may disagree but I like the show.

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Re: Expect an even more f**ked up plot for Torchwood Series 4
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2011, 02:03:57 PM »
There is a scene where the Doctor lady asks about the name Torchwood and if they are investigators. Jack responds that they are more like freedom fighters, and she says that makes them sound like terrorists.

so if your a freedom fighter you are a terrorist.

Yea, I liked that bit....

Kinda exposed a bit of truth

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Re: Expect an even more f**ked up plot for Torchwood Series 4
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2011, 05:04:59 PM »
Thats what im talking about, the way its written it sounds like they are really trying to get important messages across.

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Re: Expect an even more f**ked up plot for Torchwood Series 4
« Reply #46 on: August 21, 2011, 07:26:41 AM »
Torchwood Explains the New World Order Conspiracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goNOLNesBSw
The truth will set you free
From global tyranny
Wake up American slobs
9/11 was an inside job
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OntBg2qwk_M&fmt=35

Century of Manipulation
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Re: Expect an even more f**ked up plot for Torchwood Series 4
« Reply #47 on: August 21, 2011, 08:12:54 AM »
And there are 10 episodes to this series !!!

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Re: Expect an even more f**ked up plot for Torchwood Series 4
« Reply #48 on: August 21, 2011, 08:13:31 AM »
Torchwood Explains the New World Order Conspiracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goNOLNesBSw

"This video has been removed by the user."


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Re: Expect an even more f**ked up plot for Torchwood Series 4
« Reply #49 on: August 21, 2011, 09:12:49 AM »
"This video has been removed by the user."


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I uploaded it and youtube took it down straight away for copyright. Basically it was the scene when Jack and Ernie Hudson's character are in a restaurant and Hudson's character explains how complex and compartmentalized the conspiracy is.

"Let me give you an example; these warehouses full of drugs. No doubt you'd love to uncover an incriminating memo, dated the day before Miracle Day, signed by me, authorising the stockpiling of painkillers. The truth is, a pattern like that began, say maybe, five years ago, with a systematic increase in production in random factories around the world ... I'd imagine transportation of the drugs to [the warehouse] was then carried out over a twelve month period by, say maybe, five different haulage companies, outsourced to seven or eight different independent suppliers ..."
The truth will set you free
From global tyranny
Wake up American slobs
9/11 was an inside job
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OntBg2qwk_M&fmt=35

Century of Manipulation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mujq-C1UAw0

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Re: Expect an even more f**ked up plot for Torchwood Series 4
« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2011, 09:35:01 AM »
I uploaded it and youtube took it down straight away for copyright. Basically it was the scene when Jack and Ernie Hudson's character are in a restaurant and Hudson's character explains how complex and compartmentalized the conspiracy is.

"Let me give you an example; these warehouses full of drugs. No doubt you'd love to uncover an incriminating memo, dated the day before Miracle Day, signed by me, authorising the stockpiling of painkillers. The truth is, a pattern like that began, say maybe, five years ago, with a systematic increase in production in random factories around the world ... I'd imagine transportation of the drugs to [the warehouse] was then carried out over a twelve month period by, say maybe, five different haulage companies, outsourced to seven or eight different independent suppliers ..."

Yea I distinctly remember that part . . .

Also the way that man explained he was not actually evil, and how he was compartmentalized

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Re: Expect an even more f**ked up plot for Torchwood Series 4
« Reply #51 on: August 25, 2011, 07:29:14 AM »
Yesterday’s taboos: Torchwood, pedophilia, and a dying culture

Four years ago, the BBC decided to capitalize on the immense popularity of the long-running Doctor Who series by creating a spin-off called Torchwood.

Whereas Doctor Who is, apart from the intensity of its stories, safe for the whole family, producers said that Torchwood would be “dark, clever, wild, [and] sexy.” “Doctor Who for adults” is what they called it.

As a colleague wrote at the time, a better word to describe the show is “nihilistic” — it’s a judgment that’s reinforced by the show’s newest character.

While Torchwood is certainly dark, it’s rarely, if ever, been all that “clever,” especially when measured against the standard set by Doctor Who and other science fiction classics.

Instead, the show has substituted transgression for originality. Specifically, sexual transgression. The lead character, Captain Jack Harkness, can best be described as an “omni-sexual.” While the rest of his team, all but one of whom were killed, may not have successfully emulated his alien-fighting skills, they did manage to learn from his sexual example: extramarital affairs, same-sex experimentation were all in a day’s work for the Torchwood team.

For the fourth season, entitled “Miracle Day,” the writers ratcheted up the transgression: The newest character, Oswald Jones, is a pedophile. Yes, you heard me correctly.

Jones, played by actor Bill Pullman, is a convicted pedophile-murderer who is released on a technicality. While he’s far from the first pedophile to be depicted on television, he is undoubtedly the first depicted in a way that prompts the audience to root for him.

John Barrowman, the openly-gay actor who plays Harkness, said: “The interesting thing about [having a pedophile man character] that is that the audience is going to be torn, because they’re going to not like him for what he’s done — but they’re gonna like him.”

Let’s be clear, “liking him,” in the sense that Barrowman means is not the same as being able to see past Jones’ horrible crimes and understand that he is also created in the image of God. It’s not the same as believing that even the worst of sinners can repent and be transformed by the power of God.

It’s saying, “he may be a murderous pedophile but, you know what, he’s cool!” That’s not a matter of grace, that’s indifference.  It’s a kind of kind of nihilism, where in the absence of moral truth, the kind that Christianity provided the West, we evaluate things by how this make us feel – in this case, whether they are entertaining.

For people who have come of age when what Freud once called “Totems and Taboo” are increasingly subject to revision, it’s hard to entertain people. As they say “been there, done that, got the t-shirt.” So we ratchet up the transgression.

Of course, there are limits: You couldn’t imagine Barrowman substituting “homophobe” for “pedophile” in what he said. After all, some things are beyond the politically correct pale at least.

And, lest we forget, there are people who insist that sex between adults and children can be consensual. Thankfully, public opinion is nowhere near that point. Yet. Because as we’ve seen, yesterday’s unthinkable taboos have a way of becoming today’s “alternative lifestyles.” It is a sad sign that our culture may be dying.

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Re: Expect an even more f**ked up plot for Torchwood Series 4
« Reply #52 on: October 15, 2011, 07:50:32 AM »
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Re: Expect an even more f**ked up plot for Torchwood Series 4
« Reply #53 on: October 15, 2011, 08:52:06 AM »
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I've been hearing so much about Dr. WHO for quite awhile now.  I'm definitely gonna start checking it out 'cause people on this board (this thread) really peaked my interest.

As for TORCHWOOD, I watched the first few episodes and kinda lost interest.  Yeah, it was alright as far as action sci-fi TV-series goes and I picked up on some of the subliminals in it but since I have the "demand" I guess I got somewhat lazy on keeping up with it.  Plus the character of the gay hero and the psycho played by Pullman turned me off somewhat.  I'll get back to it though. 

Still, the whole thing kinda makes you reflex on this . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZVOU5bfHrM&feature=player_embedded

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