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« on: January 09, 2011, 03:27:15 PM »

Pima County Sheriff Sets Off Debate on Price of Free Speech

Published January 09, 2011 | FoxNews.com

Heightened and "vitriolic" political rhetoric is being blamed by some for the kind of violence that landed Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in intensive care following a mass casualty shooting on Saturday, but others say a blame game is hardly appropriate or useful right now.

Pima County, Ariz., Sheriff Clarence Dupnik sparked much of the debate during a press conference Saturday evening in which he blamed talk radio and television for a decline in America.

"I think the vitriolic rhetoric that we hear day in and day out from people in the radio business and some people in the TV business and what (we) see on TV and how our youngsters are being raised, that this has not become the nice United States of America that most of us grew up in. And I think it's time that we do the soul-searching," the sheriff said.

On Sunday, Dupnik didn't back down.  

"I think we're the tombstone of the United States of America," Dupnik said of The Granite State, which a day earlier he called the “Mecca” of hatred and bigotry. "To try to inflame the public on a daily basis 24 hours a day, seven days a week has impact on people, especially who are unbalanced personalities to begin with."

"The sheriff out there in Tucson, I think he's got it right," Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., the assistant minority whip, told "Fox News Sunday." "Words do have consequences. And I think that we have to really -- this is nothing new. I've been saying this for a long time now."

"I think the sheriff was right," added Rep. Steny Hoyer, D-Md., who appeared on CBS' "Face the Nation."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/09/pima-county-sheriff-sets-debate-price-free-speech/#ixzz1Aa0KtL1J

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2011, 03:34:57 PM »

Sheriff blames free speech as likely cause of Arizona massacre

    * January 8th, 2011 9:01 pm PT

In a press conference held hours after a deadly massacre in Arizona, Pima County Sheriff Clarence W. Dupnick targeted free speech as a likely cause of Saturdays shooting. Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was having a public event when 22-year-old Jared Lee Loughner reportedly approached the crowd and shot 19 people, killing Federal Judge Judge John McCarthy Roll and five others, including a young girl.

Sheriff Dupnick initially outlined a sketch of the days events, explaining that Judge Roll had attended Catholic Mass at the nearby Cathedral early Saturday morning and had stopped by the event to say hello to Rep. Giffords. Sheriff Dupnik described Judge Roll, a former Pina County prosecutor, as a "sincere fair-minded brilliant federal judge"  and "one of the finest human beings I've ever met in my life". Dupnik described Giffords, a three term Congresswoman, as an "incredibly gifted legislator, one of the nicest human beings ever planted on this earth."
 
Reflecting further on the "horrendous, horrendous senseless unbelievable crime", Dupnik aimed his ire at radio and television programs:
 
"And today I want to tell you that I hope that all Americans are saddened and as shocked as we are. And I hope that some of them or most of them are as angry as I am and as a lot of us are. And I think it's time as a country that we need to do a little soul searching. Because it's the vitriolic rhetoric that we hear day in and day out from people in the radio business and some people in the tv business, and what we see on tv and how our youngsters are being raised. That this has not become the nice United States of America that most of us grew up in. And I think it's time that we do the soul searching." The sheriff went on to explain that "two brave individuals at this crime scene tackled the suspect" whose name he could not reveal, despite the fact that Jared Lee Loughner's name had been released all over the internet worldwide hours earlier. He said the shooter had a troubled past and appeared at the scene with another indivudal.
 
You can watch the press conference here.

More: http://www.examiner.com/la-county-libertarian-in-los-angeles/sheriff-blames-free-speech-as-likely-cause-of-arizona-massacre


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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2011, 03:42:00 PM »

Ariz. shooting: Has political rhetoric gone too far?

By Susan Page and Fredreka Schouten, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Has the nation's harsh political rhetoric become more than just talk?

The attempted assassination of Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords as she talked to voters outside a grocery store in Tucson fueled a debate Sunday over whether the sharp partisanship and anti-government language that now mark American politics have created a climate that makes violence against public officials more likely.

"You can't say they're just words; they have consequences," South Carolina Rep. James Clyburn, a member of the Democratic leadership, said in an interview, especially given their potential impact on "people who may not be clicking on all cylinders."

He cautioned: "We need to take a look at what we're drifting into here."

But some Republican leaders and conservative activists flatly reject the suggestion that hard-edged language on issues such as health care and immigration could fairly be tied to the shocking attack that left six people dead, including a federal judge and a 9-year-old girl. Giffords remained in critical condition after brain surgery.

More: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2011-01-09-ariz-shooting-political-rhetoric_N.htm
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2011, 03:51:50 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2011, 04:29:37 PM »

Pima County Sheriff Sets Off Debate on Price of Free Speech

January 09, 2011
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Heightened and "vitriolic" political rhetoric is being blamed by some for the kind of violence that landed Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in intensive care following a mass casualty shooting on Saturday, but others say a blame game is hardly appropriate or useful right now.

Pima County, Ariz., Sheriff Clarence Dupnik sparked much of the debate during a press conference Saturday evening in which he blamed talk radio and television for a decline in America.

"I think the vitriolic rhetoric that we hear day in and day out from people in the radio business and some people in the TV business and what (we) see on TV and how our youngsters are being raised, that this has not become the nice United States of America that most of us grew up in. And I think it's time that we do the soul-searching," the sheriff said.

On Sunday, Dupnik didn't back down.  

"I think we're the tombstone of the United States of America," Dupnik said of The Granite State, which a day earlier he called the “Mecca” of hatred and bigotry. "To try to inflame the public on a daily basis 24 hours a day, seven days a week has impact on people, especially who are unbalanced personalities to begin with."

"The sheriff out there in Tucson, I think he's got it right," Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., the assistant minority whip, told "Fox News Sunday." "Words do have consequences. And I think that we have to really -- this is nothing new. I've been saying this for a long time now."

"I think the sheriff was right," added Rep. Steny Hoyer, D-Md., who appeared on CBS' "Face the Nation."

"Bob, when you and I grew up, we grew up listening to essentially three major news outlets: NBC, ABC, and of course, CBS. We listened to people like Walter Cronkite and Eric Sevareid, and Huntley-Brinkley, and they saw their job as to inform us of the facts and we would make a conclusion," Hoyer said. "Far too many broadcasts now and so many outlets have the intent of inciting, and inciting people to opposition, to anger, to thinking the other side is less than moral. And I think that is a context in which somebody who is mentally unbalanced can somehow feel justified in taking this kind of action. And I think we need to all take cognizance of that and be aware that what we say can, in fact, have consequences."

Others suggested that the shooting that left six dead and 14 wounded is a one-off that can't be attributed to any logical explanation or current events.

"Our politics takes place in the halls of Congress and at the ballot box. It doesn't happen at a barrel of a gun. This is clearly an isolated incident," Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas, told Fox News.

Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Wash., who appeared with Clyburn, said she is not aware that alleged shooter Jared Lee Loughner is tied to a political movement or engaged in a politically motivated act.

"You know, his favorite books are 'the Communist Manifesto' and 'Mein Kampf.' I think it's important that we recognize that this is an individual that had -- that has mental challenges, and we need to act appropriately in dealing with him and making sure that justice prevails here," she said.

Still, blame seems to be pouring out from all kinds of sources. FBI Director Robert Mueller said in a Sunday press conference that the "ubiquitous nature of the Internet" has made hateful information "much more readily available to individuals than it was eight or 10 or 15 years ago and that absolutely presents a challenge to us particularly as it relates to lone wolfs."

Mueller added that investigators are looking through Loughner's computer for indications of possible motives.

After news broke Saturday about the shooting, Republican Sarah Palin issued a statement offering "sincere condolences" to Giffords and other victims and said her family was praying for peace and justice.

But on Sunday, ABC reporter Dan Harris interviewed Facebook consumer marketing director Randi Zuckerberg, who said the top question being asked on Facebook is whether Palin is to blame for the violence. During the election season, Palin had written a post that used crosshairs on districts in a visualization congressional districts targeted for Republican takeover. In 2004, Democrats used bullseye targets in a similar appeal.

A Palin aide told USA Today that the sights used on the election map were not meant to represent the sights of a gun, and any suggestion otherwise is the work of political flame-throwers.

"This is a terrible politicization of a tragedy," former Palin aide Rebecca Monsour told the newspaper. "We don't know (the shooter's) motive. It doesn't seem like he was motivated by a political ideology. Craziness is not an ideology."

Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., who appeared Sunday on CNN, said it's the responsibility of those in public life and the media to "try to bring down the rhetoric."

"The phrase, 'Don't retreat; reload,' putting crosshairs on congressional districts as targets. These sorts of things, I think, invite the kind of toxic rhetoric that can lead unstable people to believe this is an acceptable response," he said.

Other politicians suggested the Tea Party movement is somehow responsible for the shooting, which elicited a fierce response from Judson Phillips, co-founder of Tea Party Nation, who issued a statement condemning attribution of the tragedy to heated political discourse.

"At a time like this, it is terrible that we do have to think about politics. No matter what the shooter's motivations were, the left is going to blame this on the Tea Party movement. While we need to take a moment to extend our sympathies to the families of those who died, we cannot allow the hard left to do what it tried to do in 1995 after the Oklahoma City Bombing. Within the entire political spectrum, there are extremists, both on the left and the right. Violence of this nature should be decried by everyone, and not used for political gain," Phillips said.

Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., agreed that it's reckless to impute the motives of the shooter to any particular group of Americans who have their own political beliefs.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/09/pima-county-sheriff-sets-debate-price-free-speech/#ixzz1AaFwcr9L

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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2011, 12:25:55 PM »

Outlaw that speech because it MIGHT be a threat...
Milo Nickels, Contributing Writer
Activist Post

It was only a matter of time before the Gabrielle Giffords tragedy was turned into a rationale for the government to take more of our freedoms.  This is how our government always responds to tragedy--it's almost formulaic:

    * Step 1 - wait for tragedy to occur, or actually create the tragedy.
    * Step 2 - spread propaganda through the media, so everyone believes your story about the tragedy
    * Step 3 - pass laws, or institute policies, that take away people's freedoms.
    * Step 4 - justify the increased Tyranny by citing the propaganda in step 2.

Read more » http://www.activistpost.com/2011/01/outlaw-that-speech-because-it-might-be.html
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 02:49:54 PM »

Citing Shooting, Congressmen Eye New Curbs on Political Speech
Rep. Slaughter Urges FCC to 'Sanction' Critics

http://news.antiwar.com/2011/01/11/citing-shooting-congressmen-eye-new-curbs-on-political-speech/
by Jason Ditz, January 11, 2011

Shortly after the shooting of Rep. Giffords (D – AZ) in Tucson on Saturday, officials and pundits from across the political spectrum were looking to make political hay out of it, struggling to tie the shooter to some rival political faction or other.

Now, however, a number of Congressmen are looking to turn that endeavor into a more concerted effort to introduce a series of new curbs on political speech, particularly political dissent, insisting that certain criticism of seated officials is “too incendiary” to be allowed.

Rep. Brady (D – PA) has promised to introduce new legislation to criminalize any political speech which could be perceived as incendiary, and other Democrats suggested that there should be a blanket ban on all speech and symbols which might be conceivably interpreted as incendiary against members of Congress.

Brady went on to claim that a number of Congressmen’s wives were terrified to hear of the shooting and questioning whether it was safe to remain on Congress. He insisted the only solution to this was to curb political speech. “The rhetoric is just ramped up so negatively, so high, that we have got to shut this down,” Brady insisted.

The ability of Congress to pass such a bill is likely not in doubt, but convicing the courts to allow broad-based censorship of explicitly political speech is likely to be an uphill battle. For some officials, this means that the effort should be more regulatory than legal.

Rep. Louise Slaughter (D – NY) insisted that the FCC should work hard to restrict political speech that “could incite people,” adding that “no one owns the airwaves” and that she clearly felt the FCC was not doing enough to regulate political commentary nor to sanction those whose criticism were unacceptable to her.
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