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Exclusive: Loughner Friend Explains Alleged Gunman's Grudge Against Giffords

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicemail-phone-message

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Exclusive: Loughner Friend Explains Alleged Gunman's Grudge Against Giffords

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicemail-phone-message

NOT EXCLUSIVE: Laughter was a patsy, the massacre targeted the judge, the entire thing is a false flag operation
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Exclusive: Loughner Friend Explains Alleged Gunman's Grudge Against Giffords

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicemail-phone-message

After reading the article, I've gotta say, I admire the time and effort they put into creating the "legend".  This is going to sell.  And the real story and evidence is already down the memory hole.   >:(
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Bill Ayers, communist provided Arizona shooter's curriculum?
High school part of learning community funded jointly by Obama and domestic terrorist

Read more: Bill Ayers, communist provided Arizona shooter's curriculum? http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=249429#ixzz1AgbwgBpl
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Bill Ayers, communist provided Arizona shooter's curriculum?
High school part of learning community funded jointly by Obama and domestic terrorist

Read more: Bill Ayers, communist provided Arizona shooter's curriculum? http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=249429#ixzz1AgbwgBpl


Gotta get 'em while they're young.

Good going commies (pseudo-"commie" corporatists-fascists).

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the ears look different and he has freckles or moles in the mugshsot pic and none in the others.   ???
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He could be totally drugged up.

His eyes were bluish in the MySpace photo.  His eyes are brown in the mug shot.
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His eyes were bluish in the MySpace photo.  His eyes are brown in the mug shot.

Open the photo and zoom in, the eyes are dark blue in the mug, but light blue in the myspace.  But the commenter above that spotted the freckles may be on to something!  If you wanted to locate a doppelgänger, biometrics can be used to find near identical matches these days, but it's virtually impossible to find a perfect match.

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The shrine in Loughner's backyard.

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A look inside the mind of erad3 (most-likely Jared Loughner), page 1

Topic started on 10-1-2011 @ 10:51 AM by AboveTopSecret.com
We here at AboveTopSecret.com, our owners, staff, and membership find ourselves in the unfortunate position of apparently being one of the largest (if not the largest) repositories of online postings by someone who has been classified as a "monster" (among other things) due to his (accused) actions of two days ago. Online research that began on Reddit, and continued here on ATS has resulted in an overwhelming amount of anecdotal evidence to support the notion that the "erad3" member account here is Jared Loughner. Indeed, the content found in more than 4,000 Google search returns (including some pages in the mainstream press) have drawn the same conclusion.

This is a rather unique situation, to say the least. I and our staff have been considering if we should provide a public statement, and if we do, what should we say? Especially since we're already being contacted by the media for comment and more information.

The postings of "erad3" reveal someone who clearly has many questions for which answers have been elusive if not outright impossible to obtain. And despite the best efforts by many of our members, it seemed there were no answers to be found here for which he was satisfied.

As is often typical, recent analysis in the media is rampant with all manner of conclusions, second-guesses, exaggerations, distortions, and missing information. The opinion of the staff and owners of AboveTopSecret.com is that it serves the public interest to provide an easy method to access every post made here by erad3 (normally, visitors must be logged-in to view such information).


Topics authored by erad3:
All aboard with the empty NASA Space Shuttles! (July 13, 2010)
Did NASA Fake the Mars Rovers? (July 12, 2010)
Infinite Source Of Currency!?!? (July 8, 2010)
Why is the year infinite in the date? (July 7, 2010)


Replies authored by erad3:
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There appear to be no clues in these postings (the last on July 13th, 2010) that would raise any kind of "red flag" (at the time) beyond someone struggling with unanswered questions.

Some will noticed that his account has been terminated. This has been done to protect the integrity of a now widely known member account here: there is now such a great deal of information available which might provide clues to guess the password and either post as him, or obtain personal data.
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread649091/pg1



Jarod Laughner & JASON/MK ULTRA Program to create Mind Controlled Patsies
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Definition of a Patsy
From JFK 1991

They have their man.
It's already been decided in Washington.
When he is brought from the theater...
...a crowd is waiting to scream at him.
Lee Oswald must have felt like Joseph K. in Kafka's The Trial.
He's never given reasons for his arrest.
He doesn't know the unseen forces ranging against him.
At police headquarters, he was booked for murdering Tippet.
No legal counsel was provided.
No record made of the questioning.
When the sun rises the next morning...
...he is booked for murdering the President.
The whole country, fueled by the media, assumes he is guilty.
Under the guise of a patriotic club owner...
...out to spare Jackie Kennedy from testifying at a trial...
...Jack Ruby is let into a garage...
...by one of his inside men on the police force.
Oswald is brought out like a sacrificial lamb...
...and nicely disposed of as an enemy of the people.
Who grieves for Lee Harvey Oswald...
...buried in a cheap grave under the name Oswald?
Nobody.
False statements and press leaks about Oswald circulate the globe.
The official legend is created and the media takes it from there.
The glitter of official lies and the epic splendor of JFK's funeral...
...confuse the eye and confound the understanding.
Hitler said:
"The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it."
Lee Harvey Oswald, a crazed, lonely man who wanted attention...
...and got it by killing a President was only the first in a long line of patsies.
In later years, Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King...
...men whose commitment to change and peace...
...made them dangerous to men committed to war, would follow...
...also killed by such lonely crazed men.
Men who remove all guilt by making murder a meaningless act of a loner.
We've all become Hamlets in our country, children of a slain father-leader...
...whose killers still possess the throne.
The ghost of John F. Kennedy confronts us with the secret murder...
...at the heart of the American Dream.
He forces on us the appalling questions: Of what is our Constitution made?
What are our lives worth?
What is the future of a democracy...
...where a President can be assassinated under suspicious circumstances...
...while the machinery of legal action scarcely trembles?

How many more political murders disguised as heart attacks...
...suicides, cancers, drug overdoses?

How many plane and car crashes will occur...
...before they are exposed for what they are?

"Treason doth never prosper," wrote an English poet.

"What's the reason?"

"For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."


The American public has yet to see the Zapruder film.
Why?
The American public has yet to see the real X-rays and autopsy photographs.
Why?

Hundreds of documents could help prove this conspiracy.

Why are they being withheld or burned by the government?

When my office or you, the people, asked those questions, demanded evidence...
...the answer from on high has always been: national security.

What kind of national security do we have when we're robbed of our leaders?

What national security permits the removal...
...of fundamental power from the people...
...and validates the ascendancy of an invisible government in the US?

That kind of national security is...
...when it smells like it, feels like it, and looks like it...
...you call it what it is:
Fascism!


I submit to you that what took place on November 22, 1963...
...was a coup d'état.
Its most direct and tragic result...
...was the reversal of Kennedy's decision to withdraw from Vietnam.
The war is the biggest business in America...
...worth $80 billion a year.
President Kennedy was murdered by a conspiracy...
...planned at the highest levels of our government...
...carried out by fanatical and disciplined cold warriors...
...in the Pentagon and CIA's covert-operation apparatus.
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His eyes are brown in this picture too.  People with blue eyes even in shady places do not have dark eyes like that in photos.

Uncle Fester look definitely closer than the first photos we fed.
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They're trying to push ALL the buttons!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/10/2011-01-10_chilling_shrine_in_madmans_yard.html?r=news

Gabrielle Giffords shooting: Frightening, twisted shrine in Arizona killer Jared Lee Loughner's yard



A sinister shrine reveals a chilling occult dimension in the mind of the deranged gunman accused of shooting a member of Congress and 19 others.

Hidden within a camouflage tent behind Jared Lee Loughner's home sits an alarming altar with a skull sitting atop a pot filled with shriveled oranges.

A row of ceremonial candles and a bag of potting soil lay nearby, photos reveal.

Experts on Sunday said the elements are featured in the ceremonies of a number of occult groups.

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Regarding the Oswald-patsy JFK scenario--they had the cover story locked in before Oswald was arrested at the Texas Theater--THEN--
(this is the killer) Jim Garrison reported in book "Heritage of Stone" that a communique was sent from the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the Pentagon to Air Force One, during the flight back from Dallas to D.C. where Johnson was being sworn in as the new president,  "You have found the assassin (Oswald) no need to investigate further, let the wheels of justice proceed." (paraphrase)

Heritage of Stone
By Jim Garrison
http://www.amazon.com/Heritage-Stone-Jim-Garrison/dp/0425029530/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294719114&sr=1-1


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4 up.  None have freckles besides the mugshot.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110110/ap_on_re_us/us_congresswoman_shot

A military official in Washington said Jared *Loughner was rejected from the Army in 2008 because he failed a drug test. The official spoke Monday on condition of anonymity because privacy laws prevent the military from disclosing such information about an individual's application. The official did not know what type of drug was detected in the screening.


CFR/CIA Sheep Dipping
The CIA's Secret Army: The CIA's Secret Army
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1004145-3,00.html
By DOUGLAS WALLER/WASHINGTON Monday, Feb. 03, 2003

(Page 3 of 7)

Just a week earlier, John (who talked to TIME on the condition that his real name not be used) had been studying at a language school in Virginia, preparing for an entirely different assignment overseas. (What language and what posting, he would not say.) The agency yanked him out to join the first U.S. team going into Afghanistan. That was typical for a CIA paramilitary officer, who at a moment's notice may be thrown into what John calls a pickup team. John's team included four CIA officers fluent in Farsi or Dari who for years had been sneaking into Afghanistan, recruiting spies for the agency. Their mission now was to hook up with those contacts, collect intelligence for the impending U.S. aerial attack and hunt for bin Laden. Along with the light arms, radios and rations they had packed into the Mi-17 were two suitcases stuffed with $3 million. It was used for bribing Afghan warlords to fight the Taliban and al-Qaeda.

WHO JOINS UP?

Like all the SOG's other paramilitary operatives, John had spent years in the U.S. military before joining the CIA; five years is the minimum requirement. CIA recruiters regularly prowl clubs like those at Fort Bragg, N.C., where the Army's Special Operations Command has its headquarters, looking for Green Berets interested in even more unconventional work and higher pay (a starting SOG officer can earn more than $50,000 a year; a sergeant in the Green Berets begins at about $41,000). Special-forces soldiers, Navy seals and Air Force commandos are routinely dispatched to the agency on a temporary basis to provide special military skills that the CIA needs for specific missions. If a soldier is assigned highly clandestine work, his records are changed to make it appear as if he resigned from the military or was given civilian status; the process is called sheep dipping, after the practice of bathing sheep before they are sheared.

Military commandos who join the CIA full time are sent to the "farm," the agency's Camp Peary training center, located on 9,000 heavily wooded acres surrounded by a barbed-wire-topped fence near Williamsburg, Va. There the soldiers go through the yearlong course that all new CIA case officers must take to learn such skills of the trade as infiltrating hostile countries, communicating in codes, retrieving messages from dead drops and recruiting foreign agents to spy for the U.S. The CIA wants its paramilitary officers to be able to steal secrets as well as blow up bridges. John proudly recalls overhearing an Afghan commander tell a comrade, "Yes, I have these Americans with me, and, yes, they have rifles, but I don't think they're soldiers. They spend all their time with laptops." Says John: "We wrote hundreds and hundreds of intelligence reports."




Mohammed Atta
Timothy McVeigh
Lee Harvey Oswald

Almost every "leak" and false flag uses CFR/CIA SHEEP DIPPING!

What a wicked web we weave when first we practice to deceive!

...it was originally a CIA operation, run through the Office of Scientific Intelligence.

More: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=190314.0

"CIA Dictionary" (first ref): SHEEP-DIPPING - improving the cover of an agent before sending him or her overseas to increase credibility.

Also: Sheep-dipping'' - the use of military personnel with necessary technical skills - such as Air Force technicians - posing as civilian contractors on grey ops...

http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/v03/03-022.txt

"SHEEP DIPPING"
THE CONVERSION OF AIR FORCE OFFICERS TO CIA FOR PROJECT OXCART

http://www.area51specialprojects.com/af_to_cia.html


The documents below track the career of Capt. William L. Skliar from December 1961 through August 1966 during which time he resigned his commission in the Air Force for a CIA assignment flying the A-12 at Groom Lake, Nevada. In 1966 his resignation was revoked effective 1962 and he resumed his Air Force career as a Lieutenant Colonel flying the YF-12 and SR-71 at Edwards AFB, California.


From the Old Grey Whore of New York, a head-scratching opening to a story that I thought ought to have been open and shut long ago...

Is the Central Intelligence Agency covering up some dark secret about the assassination of John F. Kennedy? Probably not. But you would not know it from the C.I.A.'s behavior.

"Probably not" means oh yes, they are. If the CIA is acting suspiciously, be suspicious. Very suspicious. And don't cut your own lede out from under you with qualifiers, because the guy this story is telling us about sure wouldn't:

The agency's deception was first reported in 2001 by Jefferson Morley, who has doggedly pursued the files ever since, represented by James H. Lesar, a Washington lawyer specializing in Freedom of Information Act lawsuits. "The C.I.A.'s conduct is maddening," said Mr. Morley, 51, a former Washington Post reporter and the author of a 2008 biography of a former C.I.A. station chief in Mexico. After years of meticulous reporting on Mr. Joannides, who died at age 68 in 1990, he is convinced that there is more to learn. "I know there's a story here," Mr. Morley said. "The confirmation is that the C.I.A. treats these documents as extremely sensitive."

The article notes early on that Jefferson Morley has "no use for conspiracy thinking". Yet even he thinks the CIA was conspiring, simply because of how it's acting. It's treating something supposedly insignificant as "extremely sensitive". Now why do you suppose that is? Oh, only because the CIA has been one big conspiracy since the moment of its inception. Conspiracy is its business--it's a dead bust at gathering intelligence, so what else could it be for? And because it's hardly a secret that the "Company" was involved in the JFK assassination right up to its eyeballs, as anyone who's ever seen The Men Who Killed Kennedy can attest. Yet the NY Whore still plays dumb...

What motive could C.I.A. officials have to bury the details of Mr. Joannides's work for so long? Did C.I.A. officers or their Cuban contacts know more about Oswald than has been revealed? Or was the agency simply embarrassed by brushes with the future assassin -- like the Dallas F.B.I. officials who, after the assassination, destroyed a handwritten note Oswald had previously left for an F.B.I. agent? Or has Mr. Morley spent a decade on a wild goose chase?

Clearly, the Whore would like us to believe the latter. Of course, that could be because the NY Whore is itself infiltrated by the CIA. Has been for a long time, and will be until the day it bites the dust. Remember, Operation Mockingbird was never shut down. So of course, they still have an active interest in whitewashing the CIA's involvement in just about anything that points to it. And they're still using major newspapers to do it. How very respectable of them! And if you really want to know the true role of AGENT Lee Harvey Oswald (that's what he really was!), who began his spook career in Naval Intelligence, was professionally trained in Russian by the US military itself, and tracked U-2 flights over Russia from Atsugi (a curious job for a supposedly avowed communist to have, no?), here ya go--a respected and respectable British documentary team has done your homework for you.

Enjoy Episode 4 from the original Men Who Killed Kennedy series...also titled "The Patsy":

Jim Garrison was right--the whole "pro-Castro" thing was a sham. A "sheep-dipping" in which the CIA set Agent Oswald up to look like a communist and staged a street brawl between him and the same anti-Castro group it was financing in Miami to the tune of $50,000 a month, which was serious money in 1963. It was followed by a very phony radio "debate" between Oswald and his alleged assailants. This all was done so no one would question the contention that he was the "real" assassin, the guy who fired the single, magic bullet that went through both a president's head, and just about every part of the Governor of Texas, virtually unscathed and from the absolutely wrong direction--an account hotly disputed by eminent forensic pathologist Dr. Cyril Wecht, himself not exactly a conspiracy nutcase. Dr. Wecht happens to be one of the world's top forensic pathologists, with literally thousands of autopsies under his belt. He knows from extensive experience what bullets can and cannot do to human beings. He has stated that if the JFK murder were ever to go to a trial, it would be thrown out of court because the evidence had been botched so badly.  And that's not even touching on the witnesses. One who would never be called on to testify, because his words would be too incriminating, would be Col. Fletcher Prouty, who was "in that business" in Latin America during the 1950s and notes (also in The Men Who Killed Kennedy) that it was commonplace for the CIA, US military intelligence, etc., to hire assassins from local mafias to bump off political undesirables. How commonplace? There was actually a manual instructing local operatives to do just that.


As it turns out, the assassin hired by the CIA--or one of them, at any rate--was a Corsican mobster named Lucien Sarti, feared and hated even in the mafia for his recklessness and ruthlessness. The Corsican mob had lost millions in casino revenues when Fidel Castro shut down their interests in Cuba, so it stands to reason that they would jump at the chance to band together with a powerful and secretive organization like the CIA to assassinate Castro...or, failing that, a president who had reneged on his "promise" to oust him when the Bay of Pigs invasion flopped. Sarti was chosen because he was white, because he knew how to use disguises to blend in with the locals (he was dressed in a Dallas police uniform when he fired from the "Grassy Knoll"), and because he was about as professional and cold-blooded a killer you could ask for--he used frangible bullets, as evidenced by the way JFK's head blew up in the Zapruder film. (Karma got back at him for it about nine years later--Sarti was himself shot dead in Mexico City in 1972.) Here's a chilling close-up look at Sarti's part in the plot:

Independent writers and researchers have been on this story since the get-go. The witnesses have been literally dying to tell the truth, and they were shut out by the Warren Commission, the US government, and God only knows who all else. They were also shut out by the "respectable" mainstream media. Guess why.

If you believe the official whitewash and scoff at the "conspiracy theories", congratulations. You're an idiot, and the NY Whore would love to keep you that way. That's why it's doing such a half-assed job of reporting on the work of a real journalist struggling to get to the bottom of the matter. That's why it's treating this latest researcher so dismissively. It wants you to think that everyone still investigating a "case closed" is some kind of nutter. I, however, would like to see you educate yourself. That's why I put this up here. Go on, now, and do your own homework. And ignore that whore on the streetcorner, lifting her skirt and flashing her panties at you. She's got nothing to sell you but the same old crap.
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4 up.  None have freckles besides the mugshot.

The mugshot looks like a totally different guy to me!  ???

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4 up.  None have freckles besides the mugshot.

Nope--that's not the same guy.

All three pictures their foreheads are different too.
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they are trying to go hard against the gold standard. WTF does that have to do with this kid?

This smells worse than a $0.25 Hooker.

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I don't belive they have those anymore -- even in Canada.

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I highly recommend everyone review this thread:

Piedmont's Programmed MK Ultra serial killer caught en route to Tel Aviv
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=183389.0

Part of the thread:
On Piedmont..

Piedmont Behavioral Health Center, L.L.C.,
42009 Victory Lane, Leesburg, VA 20176 01/2002 &emdash; 12/2002
http://www.forensicpsychonline.com/cvs.html/Ivey.html
E. RACKLEY IVEY, M.D.
Forensic Psychiatrist
DABFM, DABMCM, DABFE, DAAPM, FACFE, CMI(V), MRO
AAMRO(c), ASAM(c), ASAMMRO(c), AACBIS(c), CRTT, RRT

Forensic & Legal Medicine, SC
VP of Medical Affairs & Corporate Medical Director
of Adolescent Psychiatric Residential Care Facility (locum/Contract)

Administrative and clinical involvement with patients ages 9 - 17, providing a range of evaluative
and treatment services in a residential care setting for adolescents who have severe behavioral
disturbances; often with problems involving violence or sexual abuse either as victim or perpetrator.
(Link to full CV)
Piedmont Behavioral Health Center
http://www.vbgov.com/file_source/dept/yoo/Document/Resource_Directory.pdf
Leesburg, VA
Psychiatric Svcs: Ages 12-18
THERE ARE NO SUCH THINGS AS CIA/MI6/MOSSAD/G7 INTEL OPERATIVES BEING USED TO CAUSE CIVIL STRIFE IN BILDERBERG TARGETED NATIONS!
IT DOES NOT EXIST!


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'Presidential Secrets'--Former CIA Operative Chip Tatum Speaks
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4217457994226676654
1:22:40  - 2 years ago
This video presents one of the most provocative interviews ever conducted by Ted Gunderson, a retired FBI Senior Special Agent in Charge; it is with Gene "Chip" Tatum, a former CIA Black Ops Assassin who was also an Iran-Contra and OSG2 NWO Insider. In this video, you'll hear Chip discuss his involvement in Operation Red Rock, Task Force 160 and OSG2. Hear him reveal the names of high profile officials who were integrally involved in these CIA covert killing sprees and/or narco-trafficking, directly or indirectly: Oliver "Ollie" North, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton. You'll learn from an "insider" about outrageous U.S. government felony crime and corruption and the impending New World Order destruction of America. You'll hear his amazing insight concerning the Nixon Administration and the dirty politics of the Vietnam War. This is the last interview prior to his sudden disappearance in 1998. LATEST UPDATE: Chip's tortured body was reported to have washed up on a beach in Panama in early 2007.

The New Phoenix Program in America
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4361536536898115029
MONARCH: The New Phoenix Program - by Marshall Thomas

http://www.monarchnewphoenix.com/
Marshall Thomas's explosive Monarch book trilogy and video series exposes the New Phoenix Program currently being carried out on political activists and dissident civilians. The Phoenix Program, assassinating suspected VC sympathizers in a systematic manner, worked well during the Vietnam War and is the blueprint for the current black op targeting thousands of loyal Americans using state of the art microwave (MW) and radio frequency radiation (RFR) weapons. The motivation to suppress domestic dissidents and to assassinate loyal American opposition stems from the perception of dissent against the war as treason. This philosophy is stated very clearly in the MindWar paper written by NSA General Aquino. The DOD has a huge stake in futuristic technology that kills by ionizing and non-ionizing radiation, leaving little or no trace. The indiscriminant killing of the Phoenix Program continues on American soil. The terms soft kill, slow kill and silent kill refer to the new way of killing the enemy in conflicts short of war and the small wars of the future.

The counterinsurgency doctrine has now been applied to the home front, so that the perceived betrayal of the military in Vietnam will not be repeated. The generation of CIA and military intelligence led by Shackley, Helms, Casey, Abrams, Singlaub, Secord, John B. Alexander, Michael Aquino, Paul Vallely, and others have built the perfect beast, using selective assassination that leaves no trace. The ability to cull the human herd with Silent Kill technology allows a few personalities to remake the entire society in their own image.

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4 up.  None have freckles besides the mugshot.

The Many Faces of Lee Harvey Oswald
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Who created the intelligence legend that was Lee Harvey Oswald might lead us to the men behind the death of President Kennedy.” – Former FBI Agent Zack Shelton. There has been much controversy over the guilt or innocence of Lee Harvey Oswald in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Now, prepare for more controversy as New York Times Best-selling author Jim Marrs and award-winning photo analyst Jack White take you on a mind bending tour of evidence indicating that more than one Oswald existed in 1963. See for yourself the inconsistencies within government records and examples of impersonation. Laced with dramatic reenactments, this documentary presents a wide array of documents and photographs that will leave you wondering who was the man killed by Dallas nightclub owner Jack Ruby two days after the JFK assassination.
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This picture of Jared Loughner was taken by the Pima Co. Sheriff's Forensic Unit. It is not his booking photo.

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Tarpley: "The 9/11 Patsy Terrorists would have trouble making it through a day"
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Psychic 'Creeped Out' By Shooting Suspect Loughner
Scott Davis, Content Creator, KPHO CBS5 News

POSTED: 5:10 pm MST January 10, 2011
UPDATED: 9:17 pm MST January 10, 2011

MESA, Ariz. -- Psychic Mary Ann Morgan used to see clients in private homes or hotel conference rooms. "Never again after that guy," she told CBS 5 News in an exclusive interview.

In August 2005, Morgan was holding appointments at a Chandler hotel. She said her last client for the day was a young man named Jared Loughner. She didn't know he was just 16 years old at the time.

"He creeped me out," she said. Morgan told CBS 5 News Loughner asked her about the voices in his head. "He said to me, 'Nobody likes my ideas about things. I hear voices and I knew you would be able to relate and not make fun of me.'"

Morgan claims to have the ability to speak with spirits of the deceased. "I told him what I do is different. I hear voices that are kind and loving. They pass along loving messages to their families who are still alive."

Loughner, she said, was hearing voices telling him to take action. "I asked him, 'Did you tell the health care people that?' He said, 'No, they would put me in an institution.'"

Morgan said as she was talking with Loughner, she got chills. "I saw him in an incarceration situation," she said. “I remember exactly what I asked him, I said, 'Have you been incarcerated? I see confinement. I see a jail cell.'” According to Morgan, Laughner replied that he'd once been evaluated for depression.

Morgan's agent at the Ford/Robert Black Agency, Matt Englehardt, also remembers the consultation. "Mary Ann called me afterward and wanted to meet," he said. "I was very surprised. Mary Ann's usually tough as nails and doesn't take anything from anyone. But this was the first time she actually felt very scared. Scared to the point where she decided that she didn’t want to do any more live readings."

Morgan says from that day forward, she refused to hold psychic readings in person and now does them only by phone. "I was put into a situation with a young man that was lethal," she said. "I didn’t know for sure he was lethal at the time, but I knew he had the potential to be. I knew he could cross that line at some time."

On Saturday, a man police now identify as Jared Lee Loughner, 22, opened fire at a political rally hosted by Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. Six people died and 14 others were wounded in Tucson.

Morgan looks back on that session five years ago and remembers, "I told him, 'I think you need to be on medication. What you’re describing sounds like schizophrenia.' I felt horrible saying that to somebody. I didn’t want to hurt him. I felt sorry for him.” She also said she warned him “to be very careful of [his] choices.’

In addition to talking with Engelhardt, Morgan has been in touch with law enforcement. She blocked his phone number and refused to answer his calls and e-mails, which she said continued for months after the reading.

"He changed my life forever, within minutes of meeting him," she said.

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Loughner's 'Wild Eyes,' Smiling Face Unnerve Courtroom
Tucson Shooting Suspect Faces Death Penalty
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POSTED: 4:26 pm MST January 10, 2011
UPDATED: 8:35 pm MST January 10, 2011

PHOENIX -- Jared Loughner, the man police say opened fire on a crowd of people in Tucson Saturday, made his first appearance in federal court in Phoenix on Monday.

You might expect a man who is accused of mass murder to appear menacing, but many in the courtroom told CBS5 News they were unprepared for what they saw.

With a black eye and a scraped forehead, Loughner commanded the attention of the courtroom from the moment his shackled body shuffled through the door. His eyes rolled wildly, and he began to smile the moment he sat down.

Sketch artist Maggie Keane had drawn dozens of criminals, including murderers. But she said this one topped them all.

“When he walked into the courtroom, I thought I’m not only looking at somebody who is dangerous, but who is really unhinged. He just seemed very frightening and not right in the head,” said Keane.

Loughner said very little, other than his name and that he understood the judge's direction. His attorney, Judy Clarke, didn't argue for Loughner's release. She did tell the judge that because of the circumstances in this case, she would request a trial judge from outside the state of Arizona.

At least half of the courtroom was filled with federal employees, many of whom knew shooting victim, federal Judge John Roll personally. Some of them wept. Others told CBS5 News that after seeing Loughner's wild eyes, they wished they hadn't been in the courtroom at all.

“He just had that look about him. It was frightening,” said Keane.

Loughner faces three class "A" felonies, including first-degree murder. Any one of them could garner the death penalty. His next appearance will be in the same courtroom for his preliminary hearing on Jan. 24.

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The astonishing quotes from CIA documents below reveal detailed, successful experiments in highly secret, government-sponsored mind control programs. Through hypnosis, drugs, and electric shock, CIA clinicians fractured personalities and induced multiple personality disorder (MPD). These top secret programs were successful in creating Manchurian Candidates or super spies programmed to carry out sexual favors, assassination, and other terrorist acts without any conscious knowledge of what they were doing.

To verify this startling information, links are provided to images of the revealing original documents. Instructions are also available here to order for yourself any of these documents directly from the CIA using the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). The vast majority of official documents from these mind control programs were destroyed by the order of then CIA director Richard Helms after hearing there would be a Congressional investigation. He did not realize, however, that incriminating evidence remained in the financial files of the programs, which are what you read below. We can only imagine what secrets the destroyed documents held. Control of those hypnotized can be passed from one individual to another without great difficulty. It has also been shown by experimentation with these girls that they can act as unwilling couriers for information purposes.

Though dating from the 1950s and 60s, these documents were not released for decades for reasons of "national security." The U.S. government claims mind control experiments are no longer being carried out, yet how can we know? The existence of these programs was denied for decades, and certainly any recent documents would be classified secret under the rubric of "national security." A CIA informant I know assures me that these programs are ongoing, and that the techniques have been greatly refined. These disturbing methods are used by various countries in clandestine operations around the world. See the sections after the quotes for more valuable information and suggestions on what you can do to bring this vital information to light.
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CIA document and page number: 190684, pp. 1, 4
Title: Outline of Special H Cases
Date: 7 January 1953
Link to view images of original: Page 1, Page 4

In a general request for volunteers [deleted] volunteered for H [hypnosis] experimentation and were originally tested on 21 May 1951. Both girls, at this time, were nineteen years of age. These subjects have clearly demonstrated that they can pass from a fully awake state to a deep H controlled state via the telephone, via some very subtle signal that cannot be detected by other persons in the room, and without the other individuals being able to note the change.

It has been shown clearly that physically individuals can be induced into H by telephone, by receiving written matter, or by the use of code, signal, or words. Control of those hypnotized can be passed from one individual to another without great difficulty. It has also been shown by experimentation with these girls that they can act as unwilling couriers for information purposes, and that they can be conditioned to a point where they believe a change in identity on their part even on the polygraph.

Note: This documents shows that CIA experimenters were successful in hypnotizing young women (19 years old in this case) to do things they would not do normally without any memory. Though they volunteered, these women were thus programmed to be Manchurian Candidates or super spies with no knowledge of what these men were doing to them.
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CIA document and page number: 17395, p. 18
Title: ESP Research
Date: Unknown
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Learning models will be instituted in which the subject will be rewarded or punished for his overall performance and reinforced in various ways - by being told whether he was right, by being told what the target was, with electric shock etc. ... In other cases drugs and psychological tricks will be used to modify his attitudes. The experimenters will be particularly interested in disassociative states, from the abaissement de niveau mental to multiple personality in so-called mediums, and an attempt will be made to induce a number of states of this kind, using hypnosis.

Note: This document provides proof that the CIA was was using drugs and electric shock in attempting to learn how to induce MPD.
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CIA document and page number: 190691, p. 1
Title: Hypnotic Experimentation and Research
Date: 10 February 1954
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A posthypnotic of the night before (pointed finger, you will sleep) was enacted. Misses [deleted] and [deleted] immediately progressed to a deep hypnotic state with no further suggestion. Miss [deleted] was then instructed (having previously expressed a fear of firearms in any fashion) that she would use every method at her disposal to awaken miss [deleted] (now in a deep hypnotic sleep), and failing this, she would pick up a pistol nearby and fire it at Miss [deleted]. She was instructed that her rage would be so great that she would not hesitate to “kill” [deleted] for failing to awaken.

Miss [deleted] carried out these suggestions to the letter including firing the (unloaded pneumatic pistol) gun at [deleted] and then proceeding to fall into a deep sleep. After proper suggestions were made, both were awakened and expressed complete amnesia for the entire sequence. Miss [deleted] was again handed the gun, which she refused (in an awakened state) to pick up or accept form the operator. She expressed absolute denial that the foregoing sequence had happened.

Note: Here we have proof that these women could be converted into unsuspecting assassins. They could then be programmed to assassinate anyone and would do so without any conscious knowledge afterward. Remember that the vast majority of documents from these programs were destroyed.
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The box below provides several ideas on what you can do to make a difference about bringing this important information to light. We also invite you to comment below and let us know what you think. Should the government be pressed to release all documents involving mind control operations?
 
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Inform your media and political representatives of this important information. To contact those close to you, click here. Urge them bring these documents into public discussion and release all documents pertaining to secret mind control projects. Learn about the history and development of controversial CIA mind control programs in this two-page summary. Footnotes and links are provided for verification purposes. Read concise summaries of revealing major media reports on these CIA mind control programs and more  available here. Visit our Mind Control Information Center at www.WantToKnow.info/mindcontrolinformation. Explore inspiring ideas on how we can build a brighter future for all by reading this short essay. Spread this news to your friends and colleagues so that we can fill the role at which the major media is sadly failing. By working together, we can make a big difference.

How easy is it to f**k with so many American Citizens when elites are totally out of control and the rest are sheep? This is a declassified  government video inside an MK Ultra laboratory where they had a Nazi (check out the accent dude) do all sorts of BS experiments on US Citizens (from gen pop in a prison in 1967).  Look how degrading the prisoner and keeping the prisoner confused is essential for dehumanizing them.  the guards no longer look at them as humans, they only see them as pet-like animals.

These Nazi's are the same that ran concentration camps that is why it is so natural for them to dehumanize humans.  These Nazi's still control much of the US secret projects at NASA and psychological programs.  The video is a bit boring, but when you understand that these American Citizens could be your next door neighbors, you may watch through the boring parts to grasp how horrible this really is.  In addition, when you show your neighbors and co-workers that Nazi's were doing this to US Citizens and that GW's grandfather was a Nazi... you can also let them know that soon Iraqi's and Al=Qaeda will be doing this to their children here.  Why would they not?  What is the difference?

1967 government mind control drug experiment brave new world


My name is Cathleen (Cathy) Ann O'Brien, born 12/4/57 in Muskegon, Michigan. I have prepared this book for your review and edification concerning a little known tool that "our" United States Government is covertly, illegally, and un-constitutionally using to implement the New World Order (One World Government). This well documented tool is a sophisticated and advanced form of behavior modification (brainwashing) most commonly known as MIND CONTROL. My first hand knowledge of this TOP SECRET U.S. Government Psychological Warfare technique is drawn from my personal experience as a White House "Presidential Model" mind-control slave.

Much of the information enclosed herein has been corroborated and validated through brave and courageous "clean" members of the law enforcement, scientific, and Intelligence communities familiar with this case. These individuals' efforts helped me to understand and corroborate what happened after a lifetime of systematic physical and psychological torture orchestrated to modify my behavior through totally controlling my mind. Some of these courageous individuals are employed by the very system that controlled me and live in fear of losing their jobs, their families, or their lives. They have gone as far as they dare towards publicly exposing this tool of engineers of the New World Order--to no avail. This book is a grassroots effort to solicit and enlist the public and private support of Human Rights advocates, the recognized, respected doors in America to expose this invisible personal and social menace. This can be done by well organized, cooperative citizens with a passion for justice, who have expressed interest in restoring our Constitution and taking back America. This copy you hold is for your edification and action.

...It is my patriotic respect for the principles of truth, justice, and ultimately that freedom on which America was founded that compels me to expose the world domination motivations of those in control of our government, commonly referred to as the Shadow Government. By taking back America NOW, we can maintain the integrity of our country's history and future by detouring its destined course of being recognized world wide for the mind-control atrocities unleashed on humanity that literally begin where Adolph Hitler left off. Hitler's version of world domination that he termed in 1939 the "New World Order" is currently being implemented through advanced technologies in among others, genetic mind-controlled engineering by those in control of America.

...The expertise of my primary advocate and skilled deprogrammer, Mark Phillips, developed through his U.S. Defense Department knowledge of "Top Secret" mind-control research and researchers, was responsible for the restoration of my mind to normal functioning. As a result, I have recovered the memories related in this text, and having survived the ordeal, have reached this point of enormous frustration. In 1988, through a series of brilliantly orchestrated events, Mark Phillips rescued me and my 8-year-old daughter, Kelly, from our mind-controlled existence and took us to the safety of Alaska for rehabilitation. It was there that we began the tedious process of untangling my amnesic mind to consciously recall what I was supposed to forget.

Many U.S. and foreign government secrets and personal reputations were staked on the belief that I could not be deprogrammed and rehabilitated to accurately reveal the criminal covert activities and perversions in which Kelly and I were forced to participate, particularly during the Reagan/Bush Administrations. Now that I have gained control of my own mind, I view it as my duty as a mother and American patriot to exercise my gained free will to expose the mind control atrocities that my daughter and I endured at the hands of those in control of our government. This personal view of inside Pandora's Box includes a keen perception of how mind control is being used to apparently implement the New World Order, and a personal knowledge of WHO some sort of the so-called "masterminds" are behind this world and mind dominance effort.

While I am free to speak my mind, Kelly, now 17, is not so fortunate. Kelly has yet to receive rehabilitation for her shattered personality and programmed young mind. The high tech sophistication of Project Monarch trauma-based mind control procedures she endured, literally since birth, reportedly requires highly specialized, qualified care to aid her in eventually gaining control of her mind and life. Due to the political power of our abusers, all efforts to obtain her inalienable right to rehabilitation and seek justice have been blocked under the guise of so-called "National Security". As a result, Kelly remains untreated in the custody of the State of Tennessee--a victim of the system--a system controlled and manipulated by our abusive government "leaders"--a system which exists due to federal funding directed by our perverse, corrupt abusers in Washington, D.C. She remains a political prisoner in the custody of the State of Tennessee to this moment, waiting and hurting!
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Mind Control & MKULTRA, Cathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips

1 hr 44 min - Jul 24, 2006 -    (94 ratings)
Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien expose the Federal Government's involvement in Mind Control projects, research, and abuse of its' own people.

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Frank Craven Intro to Pedophilia Week

28 min - Jan 13, 2007 -    (6 ratings)

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Sex Slavery in the White House? Call-In Show (6-14-06) pt 2

37 min - Sep 24, 2006 -    (26 ratings)
year and month before 9/11 with Cathy O'Brien talking about NAFTA

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The Most Dangerous ​Game

Cathy O'brien and Mark Phillips in a little amateur footage showing ritual based mutilation. Not for children

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Note Cathy O'Brien did say that most do not live past 30

Mind Control Killers? No that couldn't be....
http://coat.ncf.ca/articles/links/richard_helms_october_2002.htm
Richard Helms: CIA Assassination, Regime Change, Mass Murder and Saddam
By Richard Sanders, Coordinator, Coalition to Oppose the Arms Trade and editor, of COAT's quarterly magazine "Press for Conversion!"

With the death of former CIA director Richard Helms, the corporate media is offering a rare glimpse into the CIA's use of political assassinations. Unfortunately however, the coverage is highly-sanitized.  It covers up much more than it reveals. Contrary to what the corporate media suggests, assassination is not a clean, surgical method of removing very specific political enemies.  It is only one small element in a larger cluster of crimes used by the CIA to execute "regime change." The reality is that the CIA's use of assassination to exterminate political leaders has historically been closely linked to many other political crimes that are, arguably, even worse. For example, when planning, coordinating, arming, training and financing repressive military coups, as the CIA has done so many times, their henchmen are wont to carry out mass arrests, mass torture and mass murder.  It's a nasty business.  As Kissinger once said about the CIA's betrayal of Iraqi Kurds, "covert action should not be confused with missionary work." Although 32 of the 98 recent stories on Richard Helms (found using a Google media search) mention the term "assassination," not one of these articles mentions any of the following terms that are equally relevant to CIA operations: torture, murder, arrest.

Only 4 of the 98 recent stories on Helms mention the term "coup." In one case, the article uses the term to praise Helms, saying he scored a "journalistic coup" when he interviewed Adolph Hitler in 1935. Richard Helms' contact with Nazis didn't end there (and probably didn't begin there either).  Helms went on to work closely with General Reinhard Gehlen, the notorious Nazi spymaster who was hired by US "intelligence" to set up an organization within the CIA.  The "Gehlen Org" recruited thousands of Nazi agents to run covert operations in Eastern Europe after the war. Gehlen is, of course, not mentioned in any of recent news reports on Helms. Neither is the fact that the OSS (the US agency that preceded the CIA) had a lot in common with the SS (besides the letters "SS.") To both, the biggest evil in the world was summed up in one word, communism.  And to both, the elimination of communists, labour activists, and other undesirable social elements that got in the way of corporatism, was their chief preoccupation.
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http://flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/438547035/
MKULTRA Victim Testimony B and C
B - Chris DeNicola speaks of her childhood experiences as a human mind control subject at the hands of government scientists specifically Joseph Mengele (Dr. Green). C- The testimony of an MKULTRA test subject who was subjected to electo-shock, LSD, radiation, rape, dislocation of joints, chemical and drug experimentation as a child. Sent to a special school with many other children and taught how to sexually please men and entrap them in order for Richard Helms, Sidney Gottlieb, Martin Orne, L. Wilson Green, and others to use sexual blackmail operations (children) to secure permanent funding for MKULTRA, experiments and operations that continue to this day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXDASDDrDkM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-ES8Bv0_8w&NR=1
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Monarch: Chapter 3B: MKULTRA 1953
Mind Control to create unwitting double agents robot assasins couriers
How the mad scientists employed by Sidney Gottlieb and Richard Helms learned from Nazi programmers how to break the mind of a child to control it forever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uupPpopZ0mo&NR=1
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President Clinton admits to thousands (some unethical) mind control experiments. Hopefully you will not focuss on or believe in the apology (lip service) Clinton provides and forget, as these programs continue into the present, and in other forms, that involve the rest of us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTiONdJJRcw&feature=related
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On the Trail of the JFK Assassins
http://www.ctka.net/2009/russell_review.html
by Dick Russell
He says that he had a source who told him Helms had gotten the word to a Kennedy family member that the Kennedys should not back a reopening of the JFK case. He concludes that "Obviously Helms himself was one of the people that I ultimately wanted very much to interview. But not until I would be thoroughly prepared."
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Going into photo speculation isnt a good idea. Depending on the lighting, blue eyes can look dark. The one with the blue eye has the flash going directly in the eyes illuminated them quite well. In the brown eye photo the flash comes from the top so it could be a lighting issue.

As for the moles I dont know. He got shoved into the ground so maybe they are from that. Also for moles like that to show you need a quite good camera and all except the blue eye one seem to be too low in resolution to make em out.

But speculating about photos doesnt get you anywhere. Its moon hoax area. You go into debating back and forth about stuff you cant be sure about.

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Jared's identity profile...
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2011, 06:13:37 AM »
Could Jared's false flag personality profile be a horrible mis-interpretation of one individual the banksters/CIA-da would like to discredit or jail?

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Re: Jared's identity profile...
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2011, 06:17:32 AM »
Doesn't the CIA understand that if such a person were to be found, they would have instant anti-corporate street creed?  This could be especially true of their info was solid like gold and was internally consistent (hence without double standards).

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Iks, I have blue eyes (my wife says green) and they have never looked brown like that in a photograph.

Not buying it.

Actually, my whole blood family has blue eyes and I never recall seeing a photograph where they looked brown.  But look at the facial features as well.  This person has unquestionably aged and looks much older than 22.

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Iks, I have blue eyes (my wife says green) and they have never looked brown like that in a photograph.

Not buying it.

Actually, my whole blood family has blue eyes and I never recall seeing a photograph where they looked brown.  But look at the facial features as well.  This person has unquestionably aged and looks much older than 22.

if we only had a DNA real time IBM "sense and response" control grid with gps nanotech in mandated vaccines we would not be having this discussion.

THESE ARE LOW LEVEL PSYOPS MEANT TO STOP ANY INVESTIGATION INTO THE CRIME SCENE OR THE CURRENT COUP D'ETAT BY TRILATERAL TERRORISTS

I am not saying that it should not be exposed such plausible fakery, but I am saying understand why blatant fakery is being pushed on us from RED CELL journos.
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It's the supposed "Myspace that got shut down" pics that I believe are the fakes or are not of him.

The Forensics Unit pic at least looks like his Yearbook photos.

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This person has unquestionably aged and looks much older than 22.

This guy according to friends, family, school administrators, court records, etc was heavy into drugs.

Drugs do age people rapidly.

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Loughner associated with Loose Change and Zeitgeist
« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2011, 09:31:37 PM »
I can't tell if they got into his video collection or just listened to testimonial of acquaintances.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gRrbpCYG8EfaDTy3EHF7rXfV7I6g?docId=9f0066934a454659a2e5b977cb295733