Well, sounds as if we have a tight situation on our hands don`t we? If we refuse to increase the debt ceiling the IMF might come in and things might get really messy; while also setting ourselves up to be ripped off again. On the other hand if we do raise the debt ceiling then we fall even deeper into a debt sink hole. With those kind of choices we are damned if we do and damned if we don`t.
Well, something has to be done either way.
Yes, but it's ridiculous and self-defeating to suggest or imply that that something has to be a "solution" framed by the very ruling-class parasites
who created this "problem" to begin with: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29C_KNZ7RNs
We cannot go on carrying out government the way we do now.
I'm well aware of this. That's why I created the following threads: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=162212.0 http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=160459.0 http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=161315.0
Bottom line: Beware of anyone who parrots the lie
that the only way to roast the pig (metaphorically speaking) is to burn down the house.
Or, as Tarpley would say, do not let ideological snake-oil salesmen "dupe" you into "cutting your own throat":
“What’s the problem [for] the U.S. ruling elite?....Their basic problem is that the foreclosures, the unemployment, the arrogance of Wall Street -- their thievery -- generates tremendous resentment. So what do you do? You’ve got to channel that rage of the masses against the masses themselves. In other words, you’ve got to dupe people into wanting to cut their own throats. And without Obama you couldn’t do it. If Obama or the Democrats had taken the lead of an anti-Wall Street pitchfork brigade, they could have channeled mass rage where it belonged: against the people that actually created the derivatives panic -- that would be Diamond, Pandit, Blankfein, Mack, Lewis…and these characters. As Obama said to them: ‘I’m the only one between the pitchforks and you.’ Well, that means Obama is getting skewered by the pitchforks. All the progressive causes are skewered by the pitchforks, and a lot of decent candidates are getting swept away, and you’ve got the Tea Party
fanatics coming in. Now, what’s their program? Their program is the program of the most aggressive wing -- the most reactionary wing -- of finance capital. That is: to destroy entitlements; to destroy Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, child labor laws, minimum wage, food stamps -- you name it, they’re against it. They want the law of the jungle, the full fury of the depression visited on the naked flesh of the American people -- that’s
the Tea Party as it is right now. So you’ve got to essentially use social demagogy of the Tea Party types to make the American people cut their own throats. It’s not going to be that easy, with 44% of housholds benefiting from Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid, but they are going to try it. And the main question is, How soon can you dump Obama? Because as long as Obama is there, this demagogy will work. It will tend to be more and more effective.”
“William F. Buckley…sponsored [Rush] Limbaugh, knowing, of course, [that] the only way you can dupe the masses into cutting their own throat is to use cultural populism
, because as soon as the argument gets to economic policies
in any real sense, the right-wing position can’t win. I mean: how are you going to convince 44% of U.S. households to cut their own throats on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security? Well, you’ve got to whip them up into a hysteria. And, of course, the defense of privilege
: [Glenn] Beck, this week, says: ‘The wealthy people
in the United States have worked hard for the money they’ve got, and we should praise the wealthy for their contributions.’ Yeah, because they bought 1.5 quadrillion dollars of derivatives. But here’s what we want to do: let’s point to this tremendous hypocrisy, this tremendous dupery that’s going on, where the rich backers remain in the background and continue to pursue their patrician lifestyles while we have these gutter snipe operatives like Limbaugh or O’Donnell in the foreground….Let’s look at these Koch brothers
…who are they? They are the third richest people in the United States in terms of private money, surpassed only by Bill Gates and Warren Buffett….With this money they have founded the Americans for Prosperity Foundation, through which -- with operatives like Peggy Venable -- they run the Tea Party. And make no mistake: they micromanage, but not directly. In other words, they’re on the phone, but they’re not always in every meeting. One of their advisers says: 'This right-wing, redneck stuff works for them
.' Yeah, it does. This 'right-wing, redneck stuff' -- cultural populism: guns, God, gays -- this is the stock-in-trade of the Koch brothers."