Indict Dick Cheney before he Blows up the entire Planet

[monkeyboy]

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By Gareth Porter, HuffingtonPost.com. Posted August 18, 2007.

Neocons beat the drums for another war.

I was never one of those who believed the Bush administration was getting ready to attack Iran in 2006 or early 2007. But it is now clear that at least Vice President Dick Cheney is conspiring to push through a specific plan for war with Iran. And Senator Joe Lieberman is an active part of that conspiracy.

We have known for a long time that Cheney wants a major air attack on Iranian nuclear sites and other military and economic targets. But an August 9 story published by McClatchy newspapers reveals that, instead of waiting for a decision to go ahead with such a strategic attack against Iran, Cheney now hopes to get Bush to approve an attack on camps in Iran where Iraqi Shiite militiamen have allegedly been trained in recent years.

The McClatchy story says Cheney proposed such a strike within the administration "several weeks ago," citing "two U.S. officials who are involved in Iran policy." The official sources say Cheney "argued for military action if hard new evidence emerges of Iran's complicity in supporting anti-American forces in Iraq." An example of such "hard new evidence," according to one of the official sources of the report, would be "catching a truckload of fighters or weapons crossing into Iraq from Iran."

The story also indicates that the same officials say Condoleezza Rice "opposes this idea" and suggest that Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates agrees with her position.

The Cheney proposal for an airstrike against three bases in Iran can have only one purpose -- to provoke an Iranian retaliation that would then make it possible to unleash a full-fledged strategic air attack against Iran. The provocation strategy would be an obvious way around the political obstacles in the way of an unprovoked attack.

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BULLETIN ITEM: SUPPORT KUCINICH IMPEACHMENT MOTION BY MAKING FOUR PHONE CALLS NOW

MWM: The following came in today and I support it completely. PLEASE MAKE THE FOUR PHONE CALLS.

There are reports that Kucinich will exercise the right of personal privilege and bring impeachment of Cheney before the House of Representatives this coming week- Tuesday or Thursday.
MAKE FOUR CALLS TO THE CAPITOL SWITCHBOARD, AND TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW TO DO THE SAME

Please call the Capitol switchboard at 800-862-5530- ask to speak to your Rep. Tell him/her to support Kucinich's resolution, or at least to not vote him down.
Then call again and tell Kucinich's office you support what he's doing.

Call twice more- once to John Conyers and once to Nancy Pelosi, and ask them to let the resolution come to vote, so at least every member will be on record about impeaching Cheney.
These four calls may be the most important you'll ever make.
The grounds that Dennis is using are outlined in the following speech:
<http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=177541>http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=177541
Last week, after meeting with pro-impeachment activists, Kucinich delivered a speech on the House floor in which he said:
This House cannot avoid its Constitutionally authorized responsibility to restrain the abuse of Executive power. The Administration has been preparing for an aggressive war against Iran. There is no solid, direct evidence that Iran has the intention of attacking the United States or its allies.
The US is a signatory to the UN Charter, a constituent treaty among the nations of the world. Article II, Section 4 of the UN Charter states, "all members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state. . ." Even the threat of a war of aggression is illegal.
Article VI of the US Constitution makes such treaties the Supreme Law of the Land. This Administration, has openly threatened aggression against Iran in violation of the US Constitution and the UN Charter.
This week the House Appropriations committee removed language from the Iraq war funding bill requiring the Administration, under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11 of the Constitution, to seek permission before it launched an attack against Iran.
Since war with Iran is an option of this Administration and since such war is patently illegal, then impeachment may well be the only remedy which remains to stop a war of aggression against Iran.

Impeachment now!

[profane1]

I can support a Bush impeachment. Yet I cannot support Kucinich due to his stance on taking my weapons!!

[Femacamper]

By Zim Sidney - Newsandpolicy.com | Media Grapevine
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Ohio congressman and Democratic presidential hopeful Dennis Kucinich's campaign to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney moves into top gear today as he formally offers a privileged resolution on the House floor that will bring articles of impeachment against Cheney. The Politico  explains  why Kucinich chose to use a privileged resolution for the impeachment effort.

    The privilege approach allows him to circumvent Democratic leadership, which opposes voting on the measure.

    His resolution will be met with a motion to table it. A vote against the motion will be a vote in favor of impeaching Cheney ...

The Hill throws more light on why Kucinich chose this particular strategy.

    When the motion is offered, it can either be passed, sent to a committee or killed with a “motion to table.” Sending it to committee avoids an immediate floor vote and might be the most appealing option to the Democratic leadership.

Congressional Democratic leaders are not thrilled with Kucinich's crusade, and as explained in The Hill report, they could chose to kill it by sending it to committee to head off an immediate floor vote. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi made it clear back in April when Kucinich first formally began the impeachment moves that impeachment against President George W. Bush or his vice was "off the table." And according to the The Hill Pelosi and other congressional Democratic leaders are still against it because of a possible backlash.

    If he pulls it off, it could make for an uncomfortable situation for Democratic leaders and centrist Democrats. Liberal activists are pushing for impeachment, while leaders worry such a move could turn off independent voters. They have made it clear that impeachment of Cheney or President Bush is off the table.

    Kucinich says he will offer a privileged resolution on Tuesday requiring House members to vote on what to do with the impeachment measure, which currently has 22 sponsors.

But despite the strong resistance of the Democratic congressional leadership to the impeachment effort, Kucinich has pressed forward with it. In this he apparently has strong public support because an American Research Group poll indicates that “54% of American adults want the US House of Representatives to begin impeachment proceedings against Vice President Dick Cheney, including 76% of Democrats, 17% of Republicans, and 51% of Independents. The same poll found 46% of voters in favor of the same thing for President George W. Bush, including 69% of Democrats, 13% of Republicans, and 50% of independents.”

In preparation for today's opening of the impeachment offensive Kucinich released the following statement:

    Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) will offer a privileged resolution on the House floor [today] that will bring articles of impeachment against the Vice President, Richard B. Cheney. Following the introduction of the privileged resolution, Kucinich will hold a news conference in 2456 Rayburn at 3 p.m.

    “The Vice President is cherry picking intelligence and selectively using facts in a manner that does not portray the complete picture,” Kucinich said.

    “The best option to prevent an unnecessary war with Iran is to impeach the Vice President, the lead cheerleader of the war. The Constitution gave Congress the power to impeach. Congress must use its power to restrain the Administration and impeach the Vice President before he prods the United States into another war.”

    On April 24, 2007, Kucinich introduced H. Res. 333, the Articles of Impeachment against the Vice President. The first two charges focus on the Vice President’s successful effort to mislead the Congress and American public into a war against Iraq. The last charge focuses upon the Vice President’s determination to again mislead the Congress and American public into a war, this one against Iran.

    “H. Res. 333 has been before the House of Representatives for half a year and has 21 cosponsors. At the same time, the Vice President has escalated his belligerence towards Iran. Thus, I believe it is now urgent to move the impeachment resolution,” Kucinich concluded.

    The 21 cosponsors of H. Res. 333 are: Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI), Robert Brady (D-PA), Yvette Clarke (D-NY), Rep. William Lacy Clay (D-MO), Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN), Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), Rep. Sam Farr (D-CA), Rep. Bob Filner (D-CA), Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX), Rep. Henry Johnson (D-GA), Rep. Carolyn Kilpatrick (D-MI), Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA), Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA), Rep. James Moran (D-VA), Rep. Donald Payne (D-NJ), Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), Rep. Edolphus Towns (D-NY), Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA), Rep. Diane Watson (D-CA), Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-CA) and Rep. Albert Wynn (D-MD).

Here are the actual articles of impeachment as announced by Kucinich back in April:

    Because I believe the vice president's conduct of office has been destructive to the founding purposes of our nation. Today, I have introduced House Resolution 333, Articles of Impeachment Relating to Vice President Richard B. Cheney. I do so in defense of the rights of the American people to have a government that is honest and peaceful. It became obvious to me that this vice president, who was a driving force for taking the United States into a war against Iraq under false pretenses, is once again rattling the sabers of war against Iran with the same intent to drive America into another war, again based on false pretenses.

    Let me cite from the articles of impeachment that were introduced this afternoon, Article I, that Richard Cheney had purposely manipulated the intelligence process to deceive the citizens and the Congress of the United States by fabricating a threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction to justify the use of the United States armed forces against the nation of Iraq in a manner damaging to our national security.

    That despite all evidence to the contrary, the vice president actively and systematically sought to deceive the citizens and the Congress of the United States about an alleged threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.

    That preceding the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, the vice president was fully informed that no legitimate evidence existed of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The vice president pressured the intelligence community to change their findings to enable the deception of the citizens and the Congress of the United States.

    That in this the vice president subverted the national security interests of the United States by setting the stage for the loss of more than 3,300 United States service members and the loss of 650,000 Iraqi citizens since the United States invasion; the loss of approximately $500 billion in war costs, which has increased our federal debt; the loss of military readiness within the United States armed services, through an overextension and lack of training and lack of equipment; and the loss of United States credibility in the world affairs and decades of likely blowback created by the invasion of Iraq.

    That with respect to Article II, that Richard Cheney manipulated the intelligence process to deceive the citizens and the Congress of the United States about an alleged relationship between Iraq and Al Qaida in order to justify the use of United States armed forces against the nation of Iraq in a manner damaging to our national security.

    And that, despite all evidence to the contrary, the vice president actively and systematically sought to deceive the citizens and Congress of the United States about an alleged relationship between Iraq and Al Qaida.

    That preceding to the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, the vice president was fully informed that no credible evidence existed of a working relationship between Iraq and Al Qaida, a fact articulated in several official documents.

    With respect to Article III, that in his conduct while vice president of the United States, Richard Cheney openly threatened aggression against the Republic of Iran, absent any real threat to the United States, and has done so with the United States's proven capability to carry out such threats, thus undermining the national security interests of the United States.

    That despite no evidence that Iran has the intention or the capability of attacking the United States, and despite the turmoil created by the United States's invasion of Iraq, the vice president has openly threatened aggression against Iran.

    Furthermore, I point out in the articles that Article VI of the United States Constitution states, and I quote, "This Constitution and the laws of the United States shall be made in pursuance thereof and all treaties made or which shall be made under the authority of the United States shall be the supreme law of the land. Any provision of an international treaty ratified by the United States becomes the law of the United States."

    The United States is signatory to the U.N. Charter, a treaty among the nations of the world. Article II, Section 4 of the United Nations Charter states, and I quote, "All members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations."

    The articles conclude by pointing out that the vice president's deception upon the citizens and the Congress of the United States that enabled the failed United States invasion of Iraq forcibly altered the rules of diplomacy so that the vice president recent belligerent actions toward Iran are destabilizing and counterproductive to the national security of the United States of America.

It should be an interesting political week.

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[Femacamper]

It's Time to Impeach Cheney
http://politics.reddit.com/info/5zy8x/comments/

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_dennis_k_071105_it_s_time_to_impeach.htm

[mcs7]

WHICH KEEPS ALIVE THE POSSIBILITY TO IMPEACH CHENEY FOR GETTING US INTO THE WAR!

TAKE THAT AND SPIN ON IT FAUX NEWS!!!!!!!

YEAH!

[Femacamper]

Also here:

http://politics.reddit.com/info/5zz7z/comments/

Comment it up! Show your support for throwing the trash out of the White House and the Oval Office!

[Buru Dragon]

They're voting on it now.  84 democrats, in probably republican districts, have already voted no.  It's essentially dead in the water.

We need to keep pushing the issue.
http://impeachforpeace.org/impeach_bush_blog/?p=3923

Rep's Conyers/Ellison/Waters Discuss Impeachment

On Tuesday, October 23rd, Impeach for Peace was granted a meeting with Representative John Conyers in Washington DC to discuss H. Res 333 and the status of impeachment. The meeting took place in the Judiciary Offices of the Rayburn building and was attended by Rep. John Conyers, an aide to Rep. Conyers and myself. There was no scheduled endtime for the meeting and ultimately the meeting lasted nearly 45 minutes. During this time many different aspects of the impeachment process were discussed. Representative Conyers was very generous with his time and made it very clear that he considers it very important for him to continue these conversations about impeachment. Unlike during his visit to Minneapolis, Rep. Conyers did not mention the matter of "time" as one of the factors against bringing forward H. Res 333. His most prominent rationale for not bringing forward the resolution was that he felt there wouldn't be support for the measure and subsequently that it wouldn't go anywhere. He spoke about all of the freshman Congresspeople who were elected in Red States and how they were unlikely to come out in favor of impeachment. He then stated that if he weren't in his position, he would be "one of you…lobbying for impeachment." I implored him to be one of us IN his position and to lobby his fellow Representatives in support of H. Res 333.

[Biggs]

damn right it is, let us hope that we have no VTech style reprisal this time, so poor MKUltra victim going a killing to stop the impeachment.

[Femacamper]

Impeach Cheney Now!
Submitted by davidswanson on Mon, 2006-05-08 14:22. Impeachment

Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2007, 2 p.m. Kucinich has introduced H Res 333 as a privileged resolution.

Rep. Jose Serrano chaired the session. Congressman Kucinich introduced H Res 333 and read the three charges against Cheney contained therein. Serrano said that a time would be designated within the next two days for the bill to be considered. At that time, anything could happen, including a vote on the resolution, a vote on tabling the resolution, or sending the resolution to committee (potentially with a time limit for a response). Rep. Steny Hoyer has reportedly said he will move to table the resolution. We have somewhere between 10 mins and 48 hours to let our Congress Members know to vote No on tabling, Yes on impeachment.

Congressman Dennis Kucinich, whose bill to impeach Cheney has 22 sponsors, introduced his resolution as planned on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives on November 6. Another congress member will probably move to table (kill) the resolution. The vote will come on the 6th, 7th, or 8th. We need you to ask your representative to vote No on tabling, Yes on giving impeachment a chance. Those who vote Yes to table cannot use the excuse that "We don't have the votes," since others will at that same instant with exactly the same exertion be voting No. Please scroll down to contact Congress and the media right away! Spread the word with these flyers.

Read "It's Time to Impeach Cheney" by Dennis Kucinich."

Watch Dennis in a short video, and another one.

Here's report from Nov. 5 conference call with Kucinich.

If you are in Washington, please ask your Congress Member for a pass to the House Gallery, and attend the session to quietly witness history. You can gather with other impeachment supporters at 9:30 a.m. at Independence Ave in front of the Longworth House Office Building

There Will Be a News Conference Following the Introduction of the Resolution on Nov. 6th at 3 p.m. in 2456 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, D.C.

ImpeachCheney.org is a Project of AfterDowningStreet.org
54% of Americans want Cheney impeached, and 64% of Vermonters.
H. Res. 333, Articles of Impeachment Against Dick Cheney, is sponsored by the following Members of Congress: Jan Schakowsky, Maxine Waters, Hank Johnson, Keith Ellison, Lynn Woolsey, Barbara Lee, Albert Wynn, William Lacy Clay, Dennis Kucinich, Yvette Clarke, Jim McDermott, Jim Moran, Bob Filner, Sam Farr, Robert Brady, Tammy Baldwin, Donald Payne, Steve Cohen, Sheila Jackson Lee, Carolyn Kilpatrick, Ed Towns, Diane Watson, Danny Davis. Please thank them and encourage them to whip their colleagues.

See the video:
Impeach Cheney High-res Quicktime version to show at events.

1. Ask your Congress Member to support impeachment proceedings against Cheney. Rep. Dennis Kucinich wants to put the name of everyone who supports Dick Cheney's impeachment in the Congressional Record! The Congressional Record is the official record of the proceedings and debates of the United States Congress. It is published daily when Congress is in session and is fully searchable. Every day that Congress is in session, Rep. Kucinich will submit 5 single-spaced pages of names with states, which is the daily limit under House rules. To be included, all you need to do is submit this petition. (After you Email them, you might also want to send them a letter like this one.)

And lobby them in person.

Here's a chart of all members of Congress, where they stand on impeachment, and what their constituents are doing about it. Submit updates and corrections here. (Because we want real updates and not spam, we require that you log in. In order to log in, you must register.)

2. Ask members of the House Judiciary Committee and Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

3. Contact the media.

4. Contact the pollsters.

5. Print out postcards to mail to Congress Members. We have three versions in three formats contributed by three people. Use a simple PDF, or a simple Word doc, or, a two-sided card: front jpg, back jpg.

6. LEARN MORE ABOUT IMPEACHING CHENEY

CLICK HERE FOR DOCUMENTATION OF CHENEY'S OFFENSES.

NB: IT IS NOT, NOT, NOT, ABSOLUTELY NOT H R 333. IT IS H RES 333.

[Femacamper]

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/cheney/?Support_Impeachment

[Biggs]

both redditted.
 

[Femacamper]

I'm really starting to like Reddit.

[Dig]

Now impeachment hearings to be heard by the House Judiciary Committee!!!!!!!!

1st step in an impeachment process passes!!!

Alleges VP misled congress regarding pre-war intelligence in Iraq

Also alleges VP is further misleading Congress in regards to intelligence on Iran

[Femacamper]

WOO-HOO!

Ron Paul for REPLACEMENT PRESIDENT!

[endevour]

Wow, this is getting interesting.

[Riian]

Wow, this is getting interesting.

woah,, you aren't kidding! 

CHENEY AND BUSH BOTH DESERVE EVERYTHING THEY GET.

THEY ARE CRIMINALS.

[Dig]

Steny Hoyer (Democrat and House Majority Leader) Put forth an order to remove this vote entirely-It failed!  Wake up America!  The Democratic Leaders (Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Clinton, Murtha, Obey, Feinstein) are killing this country, not the Republicans.  The Democrats were elected to end the war and they are doing EVERYTHING in their power to expand it!

Now that the impeachment hearing has been approved, Conyers (Democrat and Chair of the Judiciary Committee) has already stated he feels these hearings are counterproductive (another traitor in the makeing!).

Hey Conyers, that ain't your f**king place to decide before hearing the evidence.  The House voted fair and square and you HAVE TO CONDUCT THE F**KING HEARINGS!

Do your f**king job and stop issuing BS political statements that show you are a fake American and just another slave to the New World Order!

BTW - MSNBC already reported that because Conyers and Pelosi are not interested in impeachment, this is going to die. 

Hey MSNBC/GE - We don't f**king care, we want to keep bringig up impeachment every hour of every day on every corner of every American street!

Traitors will be impeached and prosecuted for TREASON!!!!!!!!!!!!

GE/Murdoch/AOL - you better stop obstructing justice and aiding/abedding enemies of the USA!

[Dig]

holy shit, Richardson just blinked!  This f**king grover said that he would vote NO to impeach and that these hearings stop the American government from ending the Iraq war.

hahaha - obeying the constitution to stop the war and avoid a new war is CONTERPRODUCTIVE in the fight to end the war?

what a f**king joke!

[Dig]

By the way, Kucinich has been painted as a total kook because he said something about seeing an object he could not identify over 10 years ago.

What he actually repeated over and over again during the debate is that Bush/Cheney need to be impeached ASAP to save this country from the Iran attack plan and end the Iraq war.

Here is the entire debate unedited by GE/AOL/Murdoch:

Complete Democratic Presidential Debate at Drexel 10-30-07

1 hr 47 min - Nov 6, 2007 -    (1 rating)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5474484778519250093

[Dig]

Tucker Calson says that because DK's impeachment resolution was referred to the judiciary it is dead and he should give up.

Tucker will be interviewing DK.

Something tells me that DK is not going to GIVE UP!

[Sasha]

The strange part of the whole procedure is the 165 of the 290 Republicans who were voting to table the resolution that decided to give the Kucinich and crew the opportunity to have a hearing on Impeachment.  But as several people in here have rightly pointed out the Dems voted the resolution into a black bag committee that will disappear any open debate about the issues raised in the resolution.  The top Dems in the House put a bunch of kitchen table issues foward in defense of their defense of high crimes and misdemeanors, i.e.... don't worry about the killers preying on humanity, help us set up a nanny state.

Looking foward to DK's take on his fellow Dems.     

[Kregener]

If by some freak of natural government Cheney WAS impeached, who would Bush replace him with?

Attila The Hun?

[Sasha]

US Constitution
Article II.  Sec. 1

..."In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the Same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President [or Vice President is the implication], and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected."

The House, I believe, can only investigate and hand the case over to the Senate for prosecution.  The Senate has the power to Impeach, so they would have to appoint a new Vice Pres until a special or regular election could be held it seems.  Not a Constitution law expert here though.

[Buru Dragon]

Both parties are absolutely phony.  Here’s my rudimentary understanding of what happened today.  Kucinich brought this impeachment resolution to the floor as we all know.  The republicans initially voted against it just as expected.  Once they realized though that the cowardly democrats didn’t have the will to support it (lacking enough votes), they quickly changed their votes to instead force it at the last minute to call their bluff.  Now it’s destined to die in the Judiciary Committee.

The republicans are pure scum and the democrats are pure scum enablers.  Hastings said that Kuinich has his own agenda and labeled him a UFO believer to marginalize him.  Conyers claimed that this would be a diversion from real issues.  HELLO!  What issues, like Iraq!  Well who brought us there you idiots?!?!  It was Bush and Cheney, whom you refuse to remove from office.  You can’t possibly solve the problem merely by dealing with the symptoms rather than the cause.  99% of the republicans want war and 99% of the democrats want war.  It’s all just a big charade.

[Biggs]

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha the motion passed, excellent, now for the next round

one cautionary note, the prospect of another Vtech or worse by some mind controlled bot, eyes and ears peeled for events, I am sure cheney or his allies will want people to bleed for this, but it must be done to show the world and the US people (unawake ones) that (a) people do care and (b) action must be taken, silence is useless.

[Dig]

Kucinich is kicking the shit out of Tucker!!!!!!!!

[Dig]

Tucker got his f**king ass handed to him!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tucker still seems to be the only one who had Kucinich on the air though and he did give DK a chance to answer the questions (unlike O'Leilly)

[Femacamper]

Mother fu...     er...Tucker!

[Buru Dragon]

Tucker vs. DK.  I missed it.  Can someone upload a clip of this if they can find it please?  If not I'll find a transcript tomorrow.

[Strife]

If by some freak of natural government Cheney WAS impeached, who would Bush replace him with?

Attila The Hun?

Obviously he'd replace him with Rudy.  Then he gets to campaign from the bully pulpit of the VP.  He's already got the AG in the bag (remember he was Rudy's legal advisor before the AG nod)

[Dig]

If by some freak of natural government Cheney WAS impeached, who would Bush replace him with?

Attila The Hun?

He could pardon Manson. He is currently an inmate in the Protective Housing Unit at Corcoran State Prison in Corcoran, California, inmate #B33920.

[Biggs]

If by some freak of natural government Cheney WAS impeached, who would Bush replace him with?

Attila The Hun?

Osama bin Laden is my bet 

[Femacamper]

I'm guessing they'll have to clone Hitler.

[Sasha]

Marvin Bush is still available.  He is owed an NWO debt for (not) running security for the twin towers.  Marvin No Bomb Dog Bush.

[Buru Dragon]

The speaker of the House is next in line if Cheney got removed.  It's not up for debate as fas as I know.  In others words, as crazy as it sounds, Bush/Pelosi.

[Buru Dragon]

See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession

The presidential line of succession defines who may become or act as President of the United States upon the incapacity, death, resignation, or removal from office (by impeachment and subsequent conviction) of a sitting president or a president-elect.

[Femacamper]

Can we impeach the speaker, too? 

[Dig]

See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession

flashback to the chinese secret society...

spposedly the plan was to impeach and put in Gore with some new energy alternative machine.

I would need more evidence to believe this plan, but just wanted to keep track of that stuff.

[Femacamper]

That would be a snake god op!