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« on: December 22, 2007, 10:33:14 AM »

On Dec. 17th the Lakota Souix withdrew from their treaties with the U.S.

Dec. 19th: Lakota Sioux Indian representatives declared sovereign nation status Wednesday in Washington D.C. following Monday’s withdrawal from all previously signed treaties with the United States Government.

Dec. 28th: Lakota to reveal national boundaries on eve of Wounded Knee anniversary. May look something like this:



They will also issue their own passports and drivers licenses and anyone is free to join them and pay no taxes by renouncing their U.S. citizenship.

Property ownership in the five state area of Lakota now takes center stage. Parts of North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming and Montana have been illegally homesteaded for years despite knowledge of Lakota as predecessor sovereign [historic owner]. Lakota representatives say if the United States does not enter into immediate diplomatic negotiations, liens will be filed on real estate transactions in the five state region, clouding title over literally thousands of square miles of land and property.

Lakota website: http://www.lakotafreedom.com/

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"We are no longer citizens of the United States of America and all those who live in the five-state area that encompasses our country are free to join us," call out the Lakota.

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www.thirdeyeconcept.com/?page=171

Lakota Sioux Indian representatives have declared sovereign nation status in Washington D.C. following Monday's withdrawal from all previously signed treaties with the United States Government. The withdrawal, hand delivered to Daniel Turner, Deputy Director of Public Liaison at the State Department, immediately and irrevocably ends all agreements between the Lakota Sioux Nation of Indians and the United States Government outlined in the 1851 and 1868 Treaties at Fort Laramie Wyoming.

"This is an historic day for our Lakota people," declared Russell Means, Itacan of Lakota. "United States colonial rule is at its end!"

Although the news of this declaration is still in it's infancy, has it been long overdue?

Russell Means is one of contemporary America's best-known and prolific activists for the rights of American Indians. Means, an Oglala Sioux, was born on the Pine Ridge Reservation; both of his parents had been educated at Indian boarding schools.

In 1968, his life turned around when he joined the American Indian Movement and quickly became one its most prominent leaders. In 1969, Means was part of a group of Native Americans that occupied Alcatraz Island for a period of 19 months. He was appointed the group's first national director in 1970. Later that year, Means was one of the leaders of AIM's takeover of Mount Rushmore. In 1972, he participated in AIM's takeover of the Bureau of Indian Affairs office in Washington, DC, and in 1973 he led AIM's occupation of Wounded Knee, which became the group's most celebrated action.

In 1974, Means first ran for the presidency of his native Oglala Sioux tribe against the incumbent Dick Wilson. Although the official vote count showed Wilson winning by two hundred votes, Means charged that this was due to pervasive vote fraud and intimidation by Wilson's agents. An investigation by a federal court agreed with Means and ordered a new election. However, Wilson's government refused to carry this out, and the court declined to enforce the ruling. (read more here)

The Lakota relaunched their journey to freedom that same year, when they drafted a declaration of continuing independence — an overt play on the title of the United States' Declaration of Independence from England.

Thirty-three years have elapsed since then because "it takes critical mass to combat colonialism and we wanted to make sure that all our ducks were in a row," Means said.

One duck moved into place in September, when the United Nations adopted a non-binding declaration on the rights of indigenous peoples — despite opposition from the United States, which said it clashed with its own laws.

Phyllis Young, a former Indigenous representative to the United Nations and representative from Standing Rock, added, "The actions of Lakota are not intended to embarrass the United States but to simply save the lives of our people. We have 33 treaties with the United States that they have not lived by. They continue to take our land, our water, our children."

Lakota country includes parts of the states of Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana and Wyoming.

Property ownership in the five state area of Lakota now takes center stage. These states have been illegally homesteaded for years despite knowledge of Lakota as predecessor sovereign [historic owner]. Lakota representatives say if the United States does not enter into immediate diplomatic negotiations, liens will be filed on real estate transactions in the five state region, clouding title over literally thousands of square miles of land and property.

The treaties signed with the U.S. were merely "worthless words on worthless paper," the Lakota freedom activists said.

Withdrawing from the treaties was entirely legal, Means added.

"This is according to the laws of the United States, specifically article six of the constitution," which states that treaties are the supreme law of the land, Means said. "It is also within the laws on treaties passed at the Vienna Convention and put into effect by the US and the rest of the international community in 1980. We are legally within our rights to be free and independent."

Following Monday's withdrawal at the State Department, the four Lakota Itacan representatives have been meeting with foreign embassy officials in order to hasten their official return to the Family of Nations.

However, have the Lakota now exposed themselves to exploitation by other foreign powers and retaliation by the United States?

A New Face to Terrorism

Lakota's efforts are gaining traction as Bolivia, home to Indigenous President Evo Morales shared they are "very, very interested in the Lakota case" while Venezuela received the Lakota delegation with "respect and solidarity."

"Our meetings have been fruitful and we hope to work with these countries for better relations," explained Garry Rowland. "As a nation, we have equal status within the national community."

How will the Bush Administration answer, when Mr. Bush himself stated "you are either with us, or with the terrorists," a few years ago?

U.S. Code Title 18, Section 2331, states that the term "terrorism" as follows:

As used in this chapter -

(1) the term "international terrorism" means activities that -

(A) involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended -
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States, or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum;

(2) the term "national of the United States" has the meaning given such term in section 101(a)(22) of the Immigration and Nationality Act;

(3) the term "person" means any individual or entity capable of holding a legal or beneficial interest in property;

(4) the term "act of war" means any act occurring in the course of -

(A) declared war;
(B) armed conflict, whether or not war has been declared, between two or more nations; or
(C) armed conflict between military forces of any origin; and

(5) the term "domestic terrorism" means activities that -

(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended -
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States. (read more here)

Have the Lakota become enemies of the state, the new face to terrorism?

How will proponents of HR 1955, titled the "Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007," respond to this? This bill specifically targets the civilian population of the United States and uses vague language to define homegrown terrorism.

The definitions of violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism found in Section 899A of the bill, state:
`(2) VIOLENT RADICALIZATION- The term `violent radicalization' means the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change.

`(3) HOMEGROWN TERRORISM- The term `homegrown terrorism' means the use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily within the United States or any possession of the United States to intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives. (read it in it's entirety here)

Will this be a short-lived story, soon to be settled by the United States, as it dumps billions of new dollars into Indian land? Or will this be a case where history repeats itself?


The above quote makes some interesting points. Bush may use this to declare a national emergency, send in the troops and declare martial law.

Any thoughts on this?
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2007, 11:06:42 AM »

This was supposed to be a general discussion. Why was this topic moved here  Huh
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2007, 11:18:47 AM »

This is the point that makes me believe the bush regime will declare martial law.

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(5) the term "domestic terrorism" means activities that -

(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion

Lakota representatives say if the United States does not enter into immediate diplomatic negotiations, liens will be filed on real estate transactions in the five state region, clouding title over literally thousands of square miles of land and property.

Bush will most likely consider this an act of domestic terrorism.
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2007, 11:33:20 AM »

Route24,  I agree with you.  This issue may be one of the most important issues of 2007.  The government has experimented on these people for years.  Alex has said (the other day) that 40% of the Indian women were forced sterilized.  The government  has given their children vaccines and ritalin and all of the other government freebies.  The per capita income is $3700 a year.  Their housing is incredibly poor-  many don't have running water, etc.  There are some many things right now in the USA  that could trigger martial law.  The coming Economic Collapse is what I think could trigger Martial Law.  This Lakota Indian story could take months to develope to a boiling point.  Things have gone downhill for the Lakota Indians since Wounded Knee in 1890.  Check out the video.  Also, watch for the MSM to demonize Russell Means, their leader.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc7fZonjD1M
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2007, 12:05:32 PM »

You're probably right, it might take several months to develop. The Lakota's will push for awhile for diplomatic negotiations and when that fails they will start putting liens on property. Once that starts to happen, either under the bush or hitlery regime, then that will be considered domestic terrorism by coercing the government.

They will also not tollerate this because the nafta superhighway is supposed to run right through their territory and is against the NWO's plans for a NAU.

Whatever happens with this, I think the Lakotas are unwittingly playing into the NWO's hands by accelerating the merger of North America, because once we are all under martial law, it will be next to impossible to stop them.
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2007, 12:10:15 PM »

Incident at Oglala: The Leonard Peltier Story is an excellent documentary that I rented recently about two Federal Agents that were killed on the Pine Ridge reservation in the 70's.

Images of Pine Ridge Reservation - slideshow
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2007, 07:23:02 PM »

If martial law occurs in the Dakotas,  it will be Wounded Knee II.  If the government only cared for them!  I just saw a couple of the pork projects that have been OK'ed by Congress-  $700 million for a bike trail in Minnesota and $200 million for a Post Office Museum in Las Vegas!!!  Will people go to Vegas to visit the P.O. Museum?  I am PO'ed.
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2007, 07:33:31 PM »

What if the Lakota sign a Pact with Red China seeking defense?
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2007, 07:35:23 PM »

A couple of points-

1. Can someone post a gallery of web cams for the area of the Lakota Nation?

2. If it shall come to war, as sad and as scary as it shall become, I do becry my brethren to consider the elite a priority after you've secured your food and shelter, and organized the locals.

I'm certain the elite will feel quite safe with food riots, and I say now, before any overt Martial Law, that elite get's the elite position in your priorities.


...and if it does come- it's about time! I'm not getting any younger!
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2007, 07:36:49 PM »

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Can you say mystery disease (Bio-Weapon)?
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2007, 10:06:26 PM »

Brocke, I sure hope they don't use a bio-weapon.  The H5N1 Pandemic Flu Virus is spreading around the world (see Rense.com).  There are reports of it occurring recently in Pakistan, Russia, Germany, England,Portugal,and Poland.  There have been human to human bird flu transmissions in Indonesia, Pakistan, Thailand, China and Kuwait.  The list of countries seems to change daily.  To me it is very scary.  If they release H5N1 on the Indians it will death to both the Indians and the Americans.  Dr. Deagle is predicting that a worldwide pandemic of H5N1 Bird Flu will occur in the next 6 to 18 months.  Dr. Henry Heymann is the world's most reknown expert on the bird flu and his website is:
http://www.recombinomics.com/

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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2007, 11:32:46 AM »

I have a bad feeling that 2008 is going to be a big year for the NWO  Sad

We will most likely see martial law, they will blame Iran for something in order to go to war, and probably see a pandemic arise and forced vaccinations so they can poison and sterilize the masses. The Supreme Court will rule on the 2nd Amendment that we have the right to bear arms, but under strict regulations.
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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2007, 12:48:52 PM »

2008 will probably be a bad year for all of us.  I have not seen anybody predict anything good for 2008.  You can add a possible economic collapse.  Bob Chapman has predicted  the possible nationalization of the banks and the unwinding of the derivatives markets.  No one knows how much money is in the derivatives market but some predict $1 to $1.5 quadrillion dollars.  All the assets on the planet are only worth an estimated $100 trillion dollars!  Chapman calls derivatives toxic paper.  Dr. Michael Franzblau,  who was on The Jeff Rense Show on 12-20-07 (2nd hour), said it takes $1 per person to eliminate people by bio-weapons, $60 per person if they use chemical weapons, $600 per person if they use nuclear weapons and $2000 per person if guns were used.  I thought about the guns and thought of what war costs and $2000 per person seems reasonable- feeding the soldier, getting the soldier to the war zone, clothing and the guns themselves and what if the sodier becomes wounded, etc.  Let's pray they don't use bios on us. 
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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2007, 06:33:07 PM »

You know this may work out in our favor.

If it Forces the NWO's hand to come out of the shadows before they are ready, they may just be that much easier to defeat.

Think of it, If they are forced to come out from the shadows before they are prepared to do so their actions will be so blatantly obvious that a majority of the country will wake up to what they have been blind to all of these years.

of course I could be wrong, but we should have such contingency plans for any event.
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2007, 04:49:07 AM »

Most  Sheeple  would believe the Government is in the right if the Government sends agents in to take care of the Indian tribe. The Government excuses /cover ups  for killing/murdering people is usually accepted without a 2nd thought. 

The brainwashed citizens of the USA no longer think for themselves.
Martial law would just be a little discomfort in their daily routine and they will say " oh it will be over soon". The truth be known ,Martial law is the stepping stone towards living in a dictatorship and it will last until the people revolt.
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« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2007, 06:10:55 AM »

All i can say is strength to the Lakota. Perhaps the wisdom of these ancient peoples is coming to the fore at a critical time in history. Martial law?. I wouldnt underestimate the will of the establishment to supress any form of uprising currently. If these brave people are about to make their stand, it is up to the rest to support them, Money, food ect should be gathered for two reasons. One to sustain them and finance their legal teams, two, a show of support from ordinary people that are prepared to stand behind them, backing them up. The old principle of GOYA
(get off your ass) and stand the line with your brothers and sisters is the recipie for success.

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« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2007, 03:34:55 PM »

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who was on The Jeff Rense Show on 12-20-07 (2nd hour), said it takes $1 per person to eliminate people by bio-weapons, $60 per person if they use chemical weapons, $600 per person if they use nuclear weapons and $2000 per person if guns were used.

Wow...this freaked me out. I had never thought of it in financial terms but it makes perfect sense considering we are just cattle to them. Looking at the numbers I guess we don't have to worry about nukes, too expensive, they wight use them to start thing off but how could they resist the cost effective bio option.

per person cost to eliminate world population
Method
Bio-Weapons
Chemical Weapons
Nuclear Weapons
Firearms
Cost per person
$1
$60
$600
$2,000
Total Cost (90% dead)
$6,094,868,095 (six billion ninety-four million eight hundred sixty-eight thousand ninety-five)
$365,692,085,700 (three hundred sixty-five billion six hundred ninety-two million eighty-five thousand seven hundred)
$3,656,920,857,000 (three trillion six hundred fifty-six billion nine hundred twenty million eight hundred fifty-seven thousand)
$12,189,736,190,000 (twelve trillion one hundred eighty-nine billion seven hundred thirty-six million one hundred ninety thousand)

This is going to haunt me...
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« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2007, 01:40:57 PM »

Just a little piece of good news, from a first hand eye witness.

The use of the word, "sheeple" in this thread causes me to relate a short story with you all.

On Xmas (yesterday), some of the crew went out and watched the AVP2 movie. The theatre was pretty full (maybe 85% or so).

Setting: In the course of the movie, the characters are beset with some directions they've received from an Army Colonel. They're ranting about what could possibly be going on.

One of the characters says, "It's the government! They wouldn't lie to us"!

The whole of the theatre at that point erupted with laughter, boos and sarcastic comments. I leaned back in my seat, feeling quite warm to know these "sheeple" around me don't believe a word of it...
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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2007, 02:02:35 PM »

One of the characters says, "It's the government! They wouldn't lie to us"!

The whole of the theatre at that point erupted with laughter, boos and sarcastic comments. I leaned back in my seat, feeling quite warm to know these "sheeple" around me don't believe a word of it...

Hahaha that's excellent.
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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2007, 05:32:09 PM »

I have to say that this may be the optimum timing for the Lakota to do this. People are so skeptical of governmental motives and the government will look heavy handed and extreme if they declare martial law and charge a bunch of the native inhabitants of this country as enemy combatants. Even if something extreme happens, the government will have egg on their face. I'm interested to see the official boundaries being released tomorrow.
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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2007, 07:35:51 PM »

I'm still wary of Russel Means given his track record of showmanship and love of the spotlight. However, today the Lakota were supposed to unveil their borders and I can't seem to find any information.
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« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2007, 04:34:57 PM »

This may prove to be of benefit to this topic

http://www.stage6.com/user/niteman69/video/1582300/Massacre-At-Wounded-Knee
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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2008, 12:15:37 PM »

Maps are up and senate bill 1959 is out of comittee scheduled for a vote this month!
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