9/11 The Pentagon Conspiracy - Jesse Ventura WHOLE EPISODE (SHOCKING!)

[Dig]

Although killtown has some controversy, they have one heck of a 9/11 coincidences page: http://killtown.911review.org/oddities/911.html#9:00am-CIA_exercise

And they also have the following unbelievable story which needs to be flushed out and verified:


NRO's 9/11 'mock' plane crash set for 9:32am, drill included a smoke generator!

(9/11 researcher Matt Everett (aka 'Shoestring') wrote a great article near last Sept 11th anniversary that revealed some new details about the CIA & NRO's extremely suspicious and coincidental plane crash 'drill' planned for 9/11 that a lot of people might of missed.)


If it couldn't get any more coincidental than US spy agencies planning to have a mock plane crash into a govt building on -- of all days -- 9/11, their mock plane crash was to happen at 9:32am*, just 5min before the official time that the Pentagon would be hit (9:37am).


The full list of coincidences between the CIA/NRO's "drill" and the real Pentagon attack:
• Both took place on 9/11
• Both of their buildings struck by airplanes (officially)
• Both planes took off from Dulles Airport
• Both crashes happened at practically the same time (or exactly the same time)
• Both will have generators emitting smoke at near/same time.
• Both will have casualites and badly burned employees needing evacuation from their buildings
• Both will have fire trucks and EMT vehicle attending
• All parties (CIA, NRO, Pentagon, Dulles) are in the same metropolitan area
What are the odds that the everything planned in the NRO's plane-crash-into-building "drill" would take place in real life at the Pentagon on the very same day just 5min later (officially), or maybe even the same exact time (unofficially)?

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread542133/pg1
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2010/02/nros-911-mock-plane-crash-set-for-932am.html

More on the Mascal Drill from another source: http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=595326

[worcesteradam]

Five Raytheon employees are on three of the four hijacked planes.

Gen. Winfield asks rookie Capt. Leidig to take temporary command of the National Military Command Center at 0830 on 11 September 2001.

A large commercial aircraft flies past the WTC right after the North Tower is hit.

A white aircraft is seen flying behind the WTC in the distance as the South Tower gets hit.

A large number of fire and medical service units were dispatched to a high-rise building fire near the Pentagon, but the fire was already reported out by the time the first responder arrived which made most of the units available to help at the Pentagon.

Each of the four hijacked cross country flights were well below normal passenger loads, averaging only between 19% and 36% full.

[wembley87]

While watching these shows , it seems all things lead back to one person , a certain Mr Dick Cheney .

[jofortruth]

While watching these shows , it seems all things lead back to one person , a certain Mr Dick Cheney .

More on Dick:
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=957&hl=

[Freeski]

it is a speculation and was presented as such, but yeah that was a bit unnecessary given all the other stuff. One thing that I thought was missing was the picture of the plane in the Pentagon and the drill they did a few months earlier.

Not to mention the $2.3Trillion announced "lost" the day before.

Instantly forgotten.

[Dig]

Not to mention the $2.3Trillion announced "lost" the day before.

Instantly forgotten.

Jesse spent a huge amount of time on this issue and even confronted the 9/11 commissioner with it.

[Freeski]

Jesse spent a huge amount of time on this issue and even confronted the 9/11 commissioner with it.

Yup, she was the/a 9/11 Commission Counsel (lawyer), Janice Kephart, and her performance at the 40:00 mark is very telling. Especially that smart ass giggle.

[citizenx]

She was a smarmy witch.

2.3 tril. pretty good payday for the Pentagon's cooperation.

[Freeski]

Holy Cow!

At 41:47 she closes her eyes in defeat! That's the response of a monster.

[Freeski]

Jesse's closing statement was exceptional!

[pac522]

Although killtown has some controversy, they have one heck of a 9/11 coincidences page: http://killtown.911review.org/oddities/911.html#9:00am-CIA_exercise

I love my Pentalawn 2000.

http://killtown.911review.org/pentalawn.html

[Dig]

While watching these shows , it seems all things lead back to one person , a certain Mr Dick Cheney .

if you are powerful enough to get US taxpayers to post a $250 million bribe through the fed reserve taxing system and the MIC/Energy monopolies, then you could issue simple stand down orders during NRO drills.

Bribe To Avoid Bribery Charges Successful: Nigeria drops charges against Cheney

ABUJA (Reuters) - Nigeria's anti-corruption agency said on Friday it had dropped bribery charges against former U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney and oil services company Halliburton after the company agreed to pay a fine.

"It was formally dropped today," Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) spokesman Femi Babafemi said. He said the Nigerian government had agreed to an offer made by Halliburton to pay fines totaling up to $250 million.

Halliburton, which has said the Nigerian charges have no legal basis, confirmed that they were dropped but declined additional comment.

The EFCC said it received the offer when it met with officials representing Cheney and Halliburton in London last week after filing 16-count charges at a federal high court in Abuja in a case dating back to the mid-1990s.

Cheney served as U.S. vice president under George W. Bush from 2001 to...
MORE
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2010/12/nigeria_drops_charges_against_halliburton_cheney.php

[citizenx]

A bribe to bribe judges to get you off bribery charges!

No doubt.

Totally in your face, Mr. and Mrs. America.  Totally in your face.

[jimd3100]

Jesse Ventura, who I like and respect is a conspiracy theorist. Is that wrong to say? He has a book called "American Conspiracies" and a show called "Conspiracy Theory". So I don't think I am throwing any insults out.

I think it is absurd that I need to apologize for not being a conspiracy theorist. But here goes......I am sorry. I am more interested in reality. I'm not interested in theorizing on what I consider to be conspiracies. I am a researcher and amateur historian. I am not a conspiracy theorist. I am sorry.

9-11 was indeed a conspiracy, so it was to be expected that conspiracy theorists, would be active in 9-11 truth. And there are different levels of conspiracy theorists, some wear tin foil hats even. But most don't. If the truth movement is wanting to have any success whatsoever it needs to get past the hardcore conspiracy theories or go down as just another fringe group of "nutty", "eccentric", "crazy", "weird", "wacky"...or whatever...choose your own term. Cult, is a word that seems appropriate to me in regards to these no planes conspiracy theories. I am not interested in being part of any cult. I'm not even interested in proving 9-11 was "an inside job". I am interested in the truth and historical facts. I again apologize for not being a conspiracy theorist.

3000 people died on 9-11 and hundreds of thousands of others died because of it. The constitution has been shredded, and we have been lied to and manipulated. That isn't a conspiracy theory. Exposing the truth behind this event is more important than some silly conspiracy theory.

According to the TV show a missile hit the pentagon. Or if it wasn't a missile it was a bomb as a plane flew over. Well.....which is it? Not one person who was there(and there were lots) saw a missile or a plane flying over the pentagon. What they saw was a passenger jet hitting the pentagon. Because......ON 9-11 PLANES FLEW INTO BUILDINGS.

Book sales, and ratings equal money. Let's be honest. A good old fashioned conspiracy theory beats the truth every time as far as entertainment value goes. And entertainment value equals ratings, and ratings equal money.

"Our" expert witness at the 11:30 mark doesn't know what he's talking about. Just a few months ago this guy admitted to knowing almost nothing about what happened at the pentagon....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZ14NRbT-s

31:25 mark of following interview....
Question: "I don't know if you've looked into the pentagon at all?"
NASA Conspiracy theorist: "I have not...uh..very little."
http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-69500/TS-378263.mp3

Now he's on TV as our "expert" explaining how everyone was "fooled" as the plane few over the pentagon. I find that to be pretty strange. It's BS, and he's not an expert on what happened at the pentagon and his retarded conspiracy theory in no way represents me or anyone else but a few Conspiracy Theorists.

I like Jesse Ventura and respect him. Which is why it is such a disappointment watching him play into the hands of the MSM as they control the 9-11 truth message. Is he willing to sacrifice credibility for ratings and TV exposure? I would have thought the research would have been better before presenting this show before a television audience, but IMO he is caught up in his "conspiracy theories"

22:32 mark "The only bodies found at the scene were pentagon employees" ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZ14NRbT-s

"When Williams discovered the scorched bodies of several airline passengers, they were still strapped into their seats. The stench of charred flesh overwhelmed him.

"It was the worst thing you can imagine," said Williams, whose squad from Fort Belvoir, Va., entered the building, less than four hours after the terrorist attack. "I wanted to cry from the minute I walked in. But I have soldiers under me and I had to put my feelings aside."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/sept01/2001-09-14-pentagon-usat.htm

So no plane at the pentagon, maybe Jesse could do a program about the alleged plane crash in Shanksville. I think he will find no plane there either. So if there were no planes at the Pentagon and Shanksville, then how sure can we be that there really were planes at the WTC? Since we know the families were "fooled" with voice morphing technology, and the pentagon witnesses were "fooled" as well, could we have been "fooled" with video manipulation?

And that is how you get a "no planes on 9-11" conspiracy theory, that television would be happy to assist us with.

I like Jesse Ventura and am disappointed he seems to be letting the MSM and his conspiracy leanings manipulate him. On 9-11 planes flew into buildings. The evidence is overwhelming.

Notice how not a single eyewitness to the actual event was talked to? Because not a single witness who saw what happened claimed a missile hit, and not a single one saw a plane fly over the pentagon. They saw this......

Less than 45 minutes after the event this witness is interviewed...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ihc1_pentagon-eyewitness-isabel-james_news

Think this witness would have seen a "fly over?....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HBjxYrhI4E&feature=&p=6FA2A860385F97EC&index=0&playnext=1

Check out the "pretty" lawn as this eyewitness speaks...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISwWfCGyjzQ

We have actual real evidence of a cover up that can be very easily proven. The MSM wants to continue to paint us all as fringe "Conspiracy Theorists". And JV is playing right into their hands. How unfortunate. Once again, I am not a conspiracy theorist. I am sorry. I apologize for that.

[Dig]

Jesse Ventura, who I like and respect is a conspiracy theorist. Is that wrong to say? He has a book called "American Conspiracies" and a show called "Conspiracy Theory". So I don't think I am throwing any insults out.

I think it is absurd that I need to apologize for not being a conspiracy theorist. But here goes......I am sorry. I am more interested in reality. I'm not interested in theorizing on what I consider to be conspiracies. I am a researcher and amateur historian. I am not a conspiracy theorist. I am sorry.

9-11 was indeed a conspiracy, so it was to be expected that conspiracy theorists, would be active in 9-11 truth. And there are different levels of conspiracy theorists, some wear tin foil hats even. But most don't. If the truth movement is wanting to have any success whatsoever it needs to get past the hardcore conspiracy theories or go down as just another fringe group of "nutty", "eccentric", "crazy", "weird", "wacky"...or whatever...choose your own term. Cult, is a word that seems appropriate to me in regards to these no planes conspiracy theories. I am not interested in being part of any cult. I'm not even interested in proving 9-11 was "an inside job". I am interested in the truth and historical facts. I again apologize for not being a conspiracy theorist.

3000 people died on 9-11 and hundreds of thousands of others died because of it. The constitution has been shredded, and we have been lied to and manipulated. That isn't a conspiracy theory. Exposing the truth behind this event is more important than some silly conspiracy theory.

According to the TV show a missile hit the pentagon. Or if it wasn't a missile it was a bomb as a plane flew over. Well.....which is it? Not one person who was there(and there were lots) saw a missile or a plane flying over the pentagon. What they saw was a passenger jet hitting the pentagon. Because......ON 9-11 PLANES FLEW INTO BUILDINGS.

Book sales, and ratings equal money. Let's be honest. A good old fashioned conspiracy theory beats the truth every time as far as entertainment value goes. And entertainment value equals ratings, and ratings equal money.

"Our" expert witness at the 11:30 mark doesn't know what he's talking about. Just a few months ago this guy admitted to knowing almost nothing about what happened at the pentagon....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZ14NRbT-s

31:25 mark of following interview....
Question: "I don't know if you've looked into the pentagon at all?"
NASA Conspiracy theorist: "I have not...uh..very little."
http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-69500/TS-378263.mp3

Now he's on TV as our "expert" explaining how everyone was "fooled" as the plane few over the pentagon. I find that to be pretty strange. It's BS, and he's not an expert on what happened at the pentagon and his retarded conspiracy theory in no way represents me or anyone else but a few Conspiracy Theorists.

I like Jesse Ventura and respect him. Which is why it is such a disappointment watching him play into the hands of the MSM as they control the 9-11 truth message. Is he willing to sacrifice credibility for ratings and TV exposure? I would have thought the research would have been better before presenting this show before a television audience, but IMO he is caught up in his "conspiracy theories"

22:32 mark "The only bodies found at the scene were pentagon employees" ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZ14NRbT-s

"When Williams discovered the scorched bodies of several airline passengers, they were still strapped into their seats. The stench of charred flesh overwhelmed him.

"It was the worst thing you can imagine," said Williams, whose squad from Fort Belvoir, Va., entered the building, less than four hours after the terrorist attack. "I wanted to cry from the minute I walked in. But I have soldiers under me and I had to put my feelings aside."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/sept01/2001-09-14-pentagon-usat.htm

So no plane at the pentagon, maybe Jesse could do a program about the alleged plane crash in Shanksville. I think he will find no plane there either. So if there were no planes at the Pentagon and Shanksville, then how sure can we be that there really were planes at the WTC? Since we know the families were "fooled" with voice morphing technology, and the pentagon witnesses were "fooled" as well, could we have been "fooled" with video manipulation?

And that is how you get a "no planes on 9-11" conspiracy theory, that television would be happy to assist us with.

I like Jesse Ventura and am disappointed he seems to be letting the MSM and his conspiracy leanings manipulate him. On 9-11 planes flew into buildings. The evidence is overwhelming.

Notice how not a single eyewitness to the actual event was talked to? Because not a single witness who saw what happened claimed a missile hit, and not a single one saw a plane fly over the pentagon. They saw this......

Less than 45 minutes after the event this witness is interviewed...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ihc1_pentagon-eyewitness-isabel-james_news

Think this witness would have seen a "fly over?....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HBjxYrhI4E&feature=&p=6FA2A860385F97EC&index=0&playnext=1

Check out the "pretty" lawn as this eyewitness speaks...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISwWfCGyjzQ

We have actual real evidence of a cover up that can be very easily proven. The MSM wants to continue to paint us all as fringe "Conspiracy Theorists". And JV is playing right into their hands. How unfortunate. Once again, I am not a conspiracy theorist. I am sorry. I apologize for that.

Please use the following thread to get more detailed information concerning the years of investigative analysis by jimd3100 related to the evidence at the Pentagon:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=195842.0

Thanks

[jwest]

Not to mention the $2.3Trillion announced "lost" the day before.

Instantly forgotten.

Yeah.  Rumsfeld and Cheney might as well been caught with a smoking gun.  And Mineta's testimony - what about that?  Seemed like he tried to do the right thing - but Mineta seemed to go sortof silent too - must've got a message about his families' security.

[Dig]

Yeah.  Rumsfeld and Cheney might as well been caught with a smoking gun.  And Mineta's testimony - what about that?  Seemed like he tried to do the right thing - but Mineta seemed to go sortof silent too - must've got a message about his families' security.

Mineta has not been silent. He has stood by his story like a true patriot in the face of pure fascism.

[jimd3100]

Mineta has not been silent. He has stood by his story like a true patriot in the face of pure fascism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-5PKQTUz5o

[Wormsaregood]

The episode presented different perspectives of different people.  It offers a debate.

If you want to be spoonfed one view, than this "truth movement" really isn't for you.

Sorry It's been so long since I responded but I had forgotten I posted

This episode may have been one of the only instances where this kind of information is put on national television.  It was riddled with things that have long been debated on these forums, many of them considered incorrect by some of the leading posters on this very website, who have personally responded to my posts with vast amounts of information.  My point was simply to ask whether or not this episode was allowed on TV so that disinformation would be spread.  Jesse did present a point of view, but it was very much implied that it was the answer that he wanted us to really look into and probably accept.  So, the question is, are we now going to have more people who run around representing the "truth movement" who spout off a few debatable (highly) facts and convince no one while making the rest of us look bad?

I'm glad for any publicity that can be gotten on this topic, but I can't help but wonder.

Jimd3100 is exactly one of the people I am talking about, the (in my opinion) expert posters who have done an excellent job with informing the newer "conspiracy theorists" (a term I dislike as well) where to go to make up their own minds.  He presents evidence on the basis of looking for the truth, not promoting a viewpoint.  Any answer I've ever received from him has been jammed pack with evidence and he sources most of what he says.  I don't consider this being "spoon-fed" anything.  I do believe that you can ask for help and opinion on many different topics and get responses from many different people and figure out the truth for yourself.  That is what I do.

[agentbluescreen]

Believe what you like but no matter what you conclude only those who agree with the official hogwash will ever "look bad" here. There has never been an investigation and there can be no reason nor any justification for any criminal secrecy.

[Ruth]

Hey guys,

So the episode is going on now and in the show there have been two interesting assumptions so far.  One guy says that there was a flyover, yet http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/3459052/1/ as many as you have seen due to Shure's work, the CIT folks have been relatively disproven, or so they say.  There was also the discussion over faked phone calls, but that was also tackled on these boards, wasnt it?

So is this episode full of disinfo or do we need to re-evaluate?

Depends who you want to believe and why.     You should always be re-evaluating and never rely on one person's opinion.

[Ruth]

im watching it now and they said the aircraft flew over the pentagon. Total BS.
good otherwise

Is it restricted air space... or only from a certain height?  It might be interesting to note that the Airforce was told to 'stand down' that day and... there was some sort of an exercise going on too.

Perhaps the people involved THOUGHT it was an exercise?

[Ruth]

FWIW - my VERY anti-conspiracy theory dad figured it out way before I did. Back in 2007, when CNN was running stories over how Al Qaida was in preparations to launch a nuclear attack on our soil, he just LAUGHED and responded, "These Muslims are TOO poor! The best they can do is strap themselves to a bomb, go into a bank, and blow themselves up. But even THAT won't do much damage!"(and he's also the same guy who INSISTS Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone).

Yes, the whole thing, when looking at the facts, was very sophisticated.  But, the US public needed to be 'conned' into thinking a certain way.... When you think of an aircraft hijack - what do you think of?  The answer always seems to be that the hijackers have to be on board (has been in the past).  Not necesary.  Hasn't been since the 70's.  They have the technology to do it remotely But... they do need to 'look' like they were there.  How does one do that?  Well, that's simple, one has 'agents', one has 'airport security' (run by certain companies) and one has 'help'.... from a foreign country which want's you to invade other Middle Eastern nations.

When you think of a Government - what do you think of?  A group of people who represent your intersts?  Right?  Not necessarily.  The government that formed after JFK was assasinated was dedicated to the advancement of the Military Industrial Complex.  He (JFK) threatened them ALL.  From the CIA to the FBI to the war in South East Asia to the Mafia.  He was the thorn in ALL their sides.  So they co-operated, used each other's expendible members and 'took him out'.

I think it was Hitler who once said (or maybe it was one of his henchies) "People are more likely to believe a big lie than a small lie".  Yes, that is true.  But why is it true?

[theNEWAGEisnotallbad]

Great episode... Soak it up...

One of the biggest "holes" in the fake 911 story... [no pun intended]

[magnus rawstron]

Download link:

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6048856/Conspiracy.Theory.with.Jesse.Ventura.S02E08.The.911.Pentagon.Con

Fkin hell, this link (piratebay/torrent)has been blocked by my ISP (virgin media)on order from the law courts, hooray and shit, hooray cause I now feel safer to release my ufo book in my country, and shit cause the law courts will eventually block forums like these, youtube, and any other net news reporting site that gives us the truth.

[LoudMcCloud]

http://youtu.be/YitSk5unhTU

Boy scouts in Marshal Law Training.