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John Boehner to halt Fast and Furious investigation, sell out to White House
« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2012, 06:11:32 PM »
http://www.citizens4freedom.com/Articles/tabid/1387/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/6787/John-Boehner-to-halt-Fast-and-Furious-investigation-sell-out-to-Eric-Holder-and-White-House.aspx
By Coach Collins, on February 7th, 2012
by Doug Book,  staff writer

Yesterday, Coach is Right published facts concerning an avenue which honest and courageous congressional Republicans might follow in their efforts to bring to justice those responsible for the criminal misadventure of Operation Fast and Furious and its subsequent cover-up.  The following represents current news of a vastly different approach.


Congressman John Boehner, the House Speaker better known for displays of weeping than of courage, is reportedly cutting a deal with Eric Holder which would provide a “mutually satisfactory” outcome in Barack Obama’s criminal, gun running endeavor Operation Fast and Furious.

Months ago, Boehner prevented Darrell Issa filing a charge of perjury against Holder even after documents proved the Attorney General’s May 4th House testimony concerning the date of his first “acquaintance” with Fast and Furious to be an outright lie.  And now the weepy Speaker will OFFICIALLY let the most corrupt Department of Justice head in the nation’s history off the hook for complicity in the Regime’s murderous scheme to savage the 2nd Amendment rights of the American people.

The terms of the betrayal John Boehner is currently putting together:

The Committee will accept the scalps of [Lanny] Breuer and [Jason] Wienstein, DOJ will release enough of the (documents) to condemn them, claim cooperation (thus giving the appearance of recognizing congress’s oversight authority), and Holder will survive – looking like a “leader” for offering them up (along with a few lower level ATF and DOJ folk). The Committee will chalk one in the “Win” column for oversight and holding people accountable. DOJ will have the same for cooperating and accountability. (1)

Lovely, isn’t it!  Hundreds are dead, including two American agents.  One of those dead, Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was literally set up for murder by an FBI INFORMANT who, on December 14th of 2010, accompanied and LED the drug cartel rip gang responsible for Terry’s death. The other victim, ICE Agent Jaime Zapata was NOT PERMITTED by LAW to even possess a weapon with which he might have defended himself from his killers!

Yet John Boehner will be pleased to sell them out in order to lay claim to the pathetically comic mantle of a tough-minded Republican leader who brought down 2 Obama Regime, Department of Justice higher-ups. That is, with the approval of the White House, of course.

But in point of fact Boehner will, as usual, simply be doing do what is politically safe and expedient rather than what is RIGHT. He will continue his customary role of bowing and scraping before leftist media and political types who allow useful idiots like himself to remain in positions of strictly limited authority only on condition they make no waves and create no embarrassment for the real ruling class in the nation’s capital.

Are the House committee sources of Mike Vanderboegh–the citizen journalist responsible for so much of what we know of the Fast and Furious scheme and its DOJ sponsored cover-up–right about the looming betrayal to be perpetrated by the Speaker?

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That is so disgusting.  Holder's an arch criminal.  He lied to congress, no doubt about it, it's on the record.  And he gets to walk.

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ATF Fast and Furious: New documents show Holder was briefed in 2010-CBS
« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2012, 07:59:49 AM »
WASHINGTON - New documents obtained by CBS News show Attorney General Eric Holder was sent briefings on the controversial Fast and Furious operation as far back as July 2010. That directly contradicts his statement to Congress.

On May 3, 2011, Holder told a Judiciary Committee hearing, "I'm not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks."

Yet internal Justice Department documents show that at least ten months before that hearing, Holder began receiving frequent memos discussing Fast and Furious.

Read the new documents at the link below,these lines are just show what documents.
Read the July 5, 2010 memo

Read the "It's a tricky case" email

Read the memo to AG Holder from Asst. AG Lanny A. Breuer

The documents came from the head of the National Drug Intelligence Center and Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer.

In Fast and Furious, ATF agents allegedly allowed thousands of weapons to cross the border and fall into the hands of Mexican drug cartels.

Gunwalking scandal uncovered at ATF

It's called letting guns "walk," and it remained secret to the public until Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was murdered last December. Two guns from Fast and Furious were found at the scene, and ATF agent John Dodson blew the whistle on the operation.

Agent: I was ordered to let guns "walk" into Mexico



You can read all the documents at the link below

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20115038-10391695.html

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Much more on this disgusting and very stupid action that the Bush and Obama Admin have been involved in. Yep, once again the corruption is bi-partisan!
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=9364

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Reality Check: Fast and Furious Operation Was Really About U.S.
« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2012, 04:47:57 AM »
Reality Check: Fast and Furious Operation Was Really About U.S.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKzy6vdO3Ok

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Ben Swann Reality Check takes a look at some stunning new accusations by a high ranking member of the Sinaloa Drug Cartel that Fast and Furious was about the U.S. supporting one cartel while attempting to shut down others

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Re: Reality Check: Fast and Furious Operation Was Really About U.S.
« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2012, 08:52:17 AM »
 Yes and yes. This has been S.O.P. for as long as I can remember. Follow the money trail, the power implosion, who gains from this.
 Could it be those who seek control, and realize this nation must be taken down to accomplish their goal.
 Do you remember the childhood game, Simon Says and the children mimicked the actions. sure you do. OK, put that on a par with todays power structure and the mimikers( great % citizens ).
 If the majority of Americans beleive we must be a global Armada, if they agree with the genocide and torture, domestic domination, who are we, the miniscule percentage?
 I spoke with an old friend, he is awake and intelligent. When we spoke of the this nation he agreed in total as to its demise. Whats the answer I asked him. " just get the word out to any citizen with a drop of humanity and honor"..Ok its being done, Now what. "Thats it bro, the only way the majority will retaliate is when their lifestyle is attacked and at that point it will be to late, the power structure is prepared for any resistance"
  P.S. Planning is the most important factor involved in any project or scenario, etc. Agreed?   To reafirm this, in 1974 I ran into a team of mercenarys in Nam, they explained to me they had work on the table for the the next decade. In short-The elitists demigods and the tribes have been at this move 24/7/ for generations.
  Buckle up, prepare for the end game. 

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Re: Reality Check: Fast and Furious Operation Was Really About U.S.
« Reply #46 on: August 10, 2012, 06:55:06 PM »
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In short-The elitists demigods and the tribes have been at this move 24/7/ for generations.
  Buckle up, prepare for the end game.

And they ain't playin'!

Like Bush said, "You either with us, or your against us"

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REPORT: Senior ATF Agent In Charge Of Fast 'N Furious Gun Running Program Was Also Working For JPMorgan
23 August 2012
, (Daily Bail)
http://dailybail.com/home/report-senior-atf-agent-in-charge-of-fast-n-furious-gun-runn.html

Nice hire, Dimon.

Is there any fraud, theft, or border-patrol murder that doesn't have JPMorgan's fingerprints on it...

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The MSm coverup has been good on this, hell Fourtune magazine said the whole thing never happened.

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'Fast and Furious' Probe Clears Holder, Faults ATF and Justice
« Reply #49 on: September 20, 2012, 11:21:53 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/fast-furious-probe-clears-holder-faults-atf-justice-211946201.html

 Operation "Fast and Furious," the controversial undercover operation that allowed U.S. guns to be walked into Mexico, was a "risky strategy" that did not "adequately take into account the significant danger to public safety that it created."

That was the conclusion today from the Office of the Inspector General, Department of Justice, after an investigation that spanned more than a year and a half.

The OIG investigation found that Attorney General Eric Holder was not aware of the strategy and tactics used in "Fast and Furious," and turned up no evidence that Holder or other top DOJ officials tried to cover up the operation, or mislead Congress about it. Holder was held in contempt of Congress earlier this year for allegedly withholding documents about DOJ's "Fast and Furious" investigation from congressional investigators.

In a statement today, Holder said, "It is unfortunate that some were so quick to make baseless accusations before they possessed the facts about these operations -- accusations that turned out to be without foundation and that have caused a great deal of unnecessary harm and confusion."

The political combat triggered by the flawed undercover operation played out in a series of contentious hearings on Capitol Hill in the past year. Behind the battles, the OIG found, was an undercover operation to catch gun-runners on the Southwest border that quickly turned bad.

Some of the 2,000 guns that made their way into Mexico as a result of "Operation Fast and Furious" were later recovered at crime scenes, including two found at the scene of the killing of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in December 2010.

The "Fast and Furious" strategy called for agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms to conduct surveillance and review phone and financial records to track guns they believed to be going to Mexican drug lords, who could then be arrested. But ATF lost track of most of the guns, few arrests were made, and yet "the purchasing activity by Operation Fast and Furious subjects continued unabated, individuals who had engaged in serious and dangerous criminal conduct remained at large, and the public was put in harm's way."

The OIG investigation "revealed a series of misguided strategies, tactics, errors in judgment and management failures that permeated ATF Headquarters and the Phoenix Field Division, as well as the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Arizona and at the Headquarters of the Department of Justice."

The report also details serious mistakes in DOJ's response to congressional inquiries about "Fast and Furious."

The Inspector General's review has recommended 14 Justice Department and ATF officials for disciplinary and administrative review, including the head of the Justice Department's Criminal Division, Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer.

As a result of the OIG findings, Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein resigned his post today. The OIG report charged that Weinstein, a senior aide to Breuer, did not adequately share critical information about "Fast and Furious," and its predecessor operation, "Wide Receiver," with top DOJ officials.

Because that information did not reach the attorney general, more aggressive oversight of the operation did not occur, and misinformation was passed on to Congress, according to the OIG report. Weinstein and his attorney vigorously denied any wrongdoing, saying Weinstein did not receive the key information he needed from the agents carrying out the operation. The former acting director of ATF during the operation, Kenneth Melson, today retired from the Department of Justice, effective immediately.

The report was highly critical of William Newell, the former special agent in charge of the Phoenix field office. "Newell also bore ultimate responsibility for the failures in Operation Fast and Furious," the review found, citing his leadership position and involvement in the case.

Newell is working at ATF Headquarters in Washington.

Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, one of the leading congressional critics of DOJ's handing of "Fast and Furious," issued a statement today, saying, "Operation Fast and Furious was the height of irresponsibility on the part of a number of people from the ATF Phoenix field office all the way up to the Justice Department headquarters. And, we still don't know the full extent of any White House involvement because they refused to be transparent and provide documents requested by the Inspector General. It's clear that both the ATF and the Justice Department failed to provide meaningful oversight of Operation Fast and Furious."

The OIG report also detailed the mistakes that lead to the killing of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry: "On January 16, 2010, one of the straw purchasers purchased three AK-47 style rifles from a Phoenix-area gun store. ATF agents learned about that purchase 3 days later and, consistent with the investigative strategy in the case, made no effort to locate (the purchaser) or seize the rifles although ATF had identified the suspect in November 2009. Two of the three rifles purchased by (the suspect) on January 16 were recovered 11 months later at the scene of the murder of Agent Terry, who was shot and killed on December 14, 2010, as he tried to arrest persons believed to be illegally entering the United States ... "

The day after Agent Terry's death, ATF agents arrested that suspect, Jaime Avila, and later 20 more alleged gun buyers and traffickers. As of Sept. 1, 2012, 14 defendants, including Avila, had entered guilty pleas to one or more counts of the indictment. In all, "Fast and Furious" identified more than 40 subjects believed to be connected to a trafficking conspiracy responsible for purchasing more than 2,000 firearms for about $1.5 million in cash. The vast majority of the firearms purchased by Operation Fast and Furious subjects were AK-47 style rifles and FN Herstal 5.7 caliber pistols.

The OIG report also noted, "what began as an important and promising investigation of serious firearms trafficking along the Southwest Border that was developed through the efforts of a short-staffed ATF enforcement group quickly grew into an investigation that lacked realistic objectives, did not have appropriate supervision within ATF or the U.S. Attorney's Office, and failed to adequately assess the public safety consequences of not stopping or controlling the alarming purchasing activity."

The report indicates that the OIG reviewed more than 100,000 documents and interviewed more than 130 witnesses, many on multiple occasions.

Inspector General Michael Horowitz said, "We operated with complete and total independence in our search for the truth, and the decision about what to cover in this report and the conclusions that we reached were made solely by me and my office."
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Re: 'Fast and Furious' Probe Clears Holder, Faults ATF and Justice
« Reply #50 on: September 20, 2012, 08:45:35 PM »
People argue with me that America like the old Soviet Union will never fall.  Here is yet another example that America has already fallen.   

Because America has been taken over in a hostel corporate takeover this means that there is NO checks and balances (accountability) in government.  This is because the very people 'conducting these probes' themselves are criminal and all roads lead back to them as well.

Anyone with two brain cells to rub together in America can in no way have ANY confidence in their government (on all levels).  Someone posted the thread that America is ripe for a dictatorship. 

Of course the NWO will have to call on globalist forces to invade America (when the time is right) to stop the very dictatorship create by the very controllers of those global forces who will occupy America.
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Re: 'Fast and Furious' Probe Clears Holder, Faults ATF and Justice
« Reply #51 on: September 21, 2012, 09:41:49 AM »
'Furious' report slams 'disregard' for public safety as DOJ officials quit
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/19.../#ixzz26xeMNy1S


The Report:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections...ious_Report.pdf



If Holder was found not guilty of knowing about this, then why did he act so defiant in the face of the Subpoena. He should be at least held accountable for his arrogance towards the law on that issue. We also have to remember that these IG's are not so trustworthy themselves. They work right in the same dept they write a report about, and we are to believe that this is unbiased? I guess we'll never know the full truth on this also because too many liars are in top positions! WE NEED NEW LEADERS, REAL LEADERS IN EVERY POST IN GOVT. UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, I'M NOT TRUSTING ANY OF THEM.
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Re: 'Fast and Furious' Probe Clears Holder, Faults ATF and Justice
« Reply #52 on: September 21, 2012, 10:03:46 AM »
 Patsy time, so they got a guy to take the fall, what else is new.
:As a result of the OIG findings, Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein resigned his post today.

 He resigned, and will become the CIO of some corp, with a barrell of green tucked away and in the NWO's good books. Holder is having a laugh, their arrogance sickens me.
 

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Latest Fast and Furious Report Incriminates DOJ
« Reply #53 on: October 30, 2012, 07:10:47 PM »
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/13447-latest-fast-and-furious-report-incriminates-doj

I don't know where the Fast and Furious thread went.
  more at the link


The controversial Fast and Furious gun-walking operation has prompted members of Congress to take a closer look at the Department of Justice. An October 29 report on the Fast and Furious investigation reveals that Justice Department officials “failed to identify red flags” in the gun-walking operation.

Operation Fast and Furious was a gun-running operation led by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), in which the ATF "lost track" of 1,700 guns. The operation resulted in the death of border patrol agent Brian Terry, and a number of the guns lost during Fast and Furious appeared at a variety of crime scenes. Investigation into the operation has been particularly incriminating for the ATF.

However, investigations into the Operation Fast and Furious revealed a number of startling items.

Representative Darrell Issa, chairman of the House Oversight Committee that is leading the investigation into the operation, told ABC News’ Jake Tapper that pertinent e-mails revealed that the agenda of the operation was to advocate for greater gun control, not, as was alleged, to pursue criminal prosecutions of drug cartel members.

CBS had made the same determination in 2011. According to CBS, “ATF officials didn’t intend to publicly disclose their own role in letting Mexican cartels obtain the weapons, but emails show they discussed using the sales, including sales encouraged by ATF, to justify a new gun regulation called ‘Demand Letter 3.’ That would require some US gun shops to report the sale of multiple rifles or ‘long guns.’”

Likewise, allegations made in August by a high-ranking Mexican drug cartel operative in American custody show that Fast and Furious was an agreement between the U.S. government and the Mexican Sinaloa drug cartel to help take down rival cartels. Likewise, the operative indicates that drugs were permitted to be trafficked across the U.S. border from 2004 to 2009, incriminating both the Bush and Obama administrations, if proven true.

The findings did not stop there.

In the latest report from Rep. Issa’s and Senator Chuck Grassley’s final investigation into Fast and Furious, several members of the Department of Justice have been incriminated. Fox News reported Monday, “The 140-page report singles out five senior agency officials: Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer, acting Deputy Attorney General Gary Grindler, Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein and Associate Deputy Attorney General Ed Siskel.”

The first installment from the investigation focused on the role of the ATF. The latest installment addresses the role of the DOJ.

The report’s findings are based on testimony by senior Department of Justice officials.

According to the report, Grindler and Siskel were provided details about Fast and Furious during a March 2010 brief that dealt with the illegally purchased firearms that were recovered in both the United States and Mexico. The report notes that despite the evidence brought before Grindler and Siskel at the brief, they did not ask questions or “take any significant follow-up action to monitor and supervise the conduct of the case.”

“Officials in the Justice Department saw countless warnings and some even had the gun-walking information right in front of them, yet nothing was done to stop it, said Grassley, an Iowa senator and ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The report also states that DOJ officials did not take proper action when asked by the ATF to speed up indictments in the Fast and Furious scandal, with a greater focus on the press’ response to the indictments.

Issa contends that the DOJ has taken very limited action against the “negligent managers” and has not made any indications that they would see to it that a similar “disaster” is not repeated.

The failures happened because of conscious decisions to encourage gun dealers to sell to known traffickers and avoid interdicting … all in the hope that would lead law enforcement to cartel connections,” the report concluded. 

Congressional investigators had already determined that Attorney General Eric Holder had been trying to cover-up some of the necessary facts for the investigation of Fast and Furious and the DOJ’s role in the operation.

The U.S. House of Representatives voted to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt for failing to comply fully with the congressional investigation into Operation Fast and Furious. The vote was 255 to 67 with 17 Democrats breaking from their party to vote in favor of the contempt measure along with Republicans.

A second resolution, the civil contempt charge that would authorize the House Oversight Committee to seek judgment in federal court requiring Holder to comply with subpoenas, passed by a vote of 258 to 95, with 21 Democrats voting with Republicans.

Congress has been investigating the Fast and Furious operation for well over a year, and has grown infuriated with Holder’s refusal to adequately comply with the investigation. The New York Post reported June 13:

Holder has provided 7,600 documents while the [House Government and Oversight] Committee has issued subpoenas asking for tens of thousands more over a botched federal program that resulted in guns getting into the hands of Mexican criminals.

Holder has defended his refusal to hand over documents for the congressional investigation by asserting that it would violate the “separation of powers.”
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Mexican Police Chief Killed with Rifle from ATF's Fast and Furious
« Reply #54 on: July 06, 2013, 11:13:58 AM »
Police chief killed with rifle lost in ATF gun-tracking program

By Richard A. Serrano

July 5, 2013, 12:45 p.m.

WASHINGTON—A high-powered rifle lost in the ATF’s Fast and Furious controversy was used to kill a Mexican police chief in the state of Jalisco earlier this year, according to internal Department of Justice records, suggesting that weapons from the failed gun-tracking operation have now made it into the hands of violent drug cartels deep inside Mexico.

Luis Lucio Rosales Astorga, the police chief in the city of Hostotipaquillo, was shot to death Jan. 29 when gunmen intercepted his patrol car and opened fire. Also killed was one of his bodyguards. His wife and a second bodyguard were wounded.

Local authorities said eight suspects in their 20s and 30s were arrested after police seized them nearby with a cache of weapons — rifles, grenades, handguns, helmets, bulletproof vests, uniforms and special communications equipment. The area is a hot zone for rival drug gangs, with members of three cartels fighting over turf in the region.

A semi-automatic WASR rifle, the firearm that killed the chief, was traced back to the Lone Wolf Trading Company, a gun store in Glendale, Ariz. The notation on the Department of Justice trace records said the WASR was used in a “HOMICIDE – WILLFUL – KILL –PUB OFF –GUN” –ATF code for “Homicide, Willful Killing of a Public Official, Gun.”

More: http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-atf-fast-furious-20130705,0,2692834.story
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* Fresh DOJ Loss in "Fast and Furious" docs fight! Judge will not dismiss case
« Reply #55 on: October 01, 2013, 10:44:47 AM »
Fresh DOJ loss in ‘Fast and Furious’ docs fight
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/fast...ents-97604.html
https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_p...c?2012cv1332-52

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By JOSH GERSTEIN | 9/30/13

A federal judge has rejected Attorney General Eric Holder’s attempt to keep the courts from wading into the “Fast and Furious” documents dispute that led to him being held in contempt by the House last year.

In a ruling Monday night, U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson turned down the Justice Department’s request to dismiss a lawsuit brought by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee after President Barack Obama asserted executive privilege to prevent some records about the administration’s response to the “Operation Fast and Furious” gunrunning scandal from being turned over to Congress.

“This case presents the sort of question that the courts are traditionally called upon to resolve,” Jackson said in her 44-page decision, issued more than five months after lawyers argued the issue in her packed courtroom and more than a year after the House committee filed suit. “Dismissing the case without hearing it would in effect place the court’s finger on the scale, designating the executive as the victor based solely on his untested assertion that the privilege applies,” she wrote.
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  In a real country with a real president, Holder would have been FIRED a long, long, long time ago.
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  In a real country with a real president, Holder would have been FIRED a long, long, long time ago.


Holder and Obama would have both BEEN IMPEACHED long ago, but for a spineless, clueless, and owned Congress!

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/10218288/CIA-running-arms-smuggling-team-in-Benghazi-when-consulate-was-attacked.html

CIA 'running arms smuggling team in Benghazi when consulate was attacked'

The CIA has been subjecting operatives to monthly polygraph tests in an attempt to suppress details of a reported

US arms smuggling operation in Benghazi that was ongoing when its ambassador was killed by a mob in the city last year, according to reports.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/10218288/CIA-running-arms-smuggling-team-in-Benghazi-when-consulate-was-attacked.html

CIA 'running arms smuggling team in Benghazi when consulate was attacked'

The CIA has been subjecting operatives to monthly polygraph tests in an attempt to suppress details of a reported

US arms smuggling operation in Benghazi that was ongoing when its ambassador was killed by a mob in the city last year, according to reports.
           This would have been exposed at some point, (just my oppinion), Stevens was agency (NOC), he was running guns , sanctioned from on high that is.     The upper echelon did not want this exposed, simple solution, let em get wacked out..
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Holder and Obama would have both BEEN IMPEACHED long ago, but for a spineless, clueless, and owned Congress!
             Jo. Yes , 110% on the money.. Problem, presidents get pardons. Exempt from criminal prosecution in any form.

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Baffles me how this administration thinks they will make it to Inauguration Day 2016.

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Kudos to The Honorable Judge Jackson.  At least she is attempting to keep this one from being swept under the rug.

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MEMORANDUM OPINION
The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform of the United States House of Representatives has filed this action to enforce a subpoena it issued to the Attorney General of the United States, Eric H. Holder, Jr. The Attorney General refused to produce a portion of the records called for by the subpoena on the grounds that they are covered by the executive privilege, and the Committee seeks a declaration that the invocation of the privilege is invalid in this instance and that the documents must be produced. The matter is before the Court on defendant’s motion to dismiss the complaint under Federal Rules of Civil Procedure 12(b)(1) and 12(b)(6): the Attorney General takes the position that a dispute between the legislative and executive branches must be resolved through negotiation and accommodation, and that the judiciary may not, or at least, should not, get involved.
The motion to dismiss will be denied. The fact that this case arises out of a dispute between two branches of government does not make it non-justiciable; Supreme Court precedent
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establishes that the third branch has an equally fundamental role to play, and that judges not only may, but sometimes must, exercise their responsibility to interpret the Constitution and determine whether another branch has exceeded its power.
In the Court’s view, endorsing the proposition that the executive may assert an unreviewable right to withhold materials from the legislature would offend the Constitution more than undertaking to resolve the specific dispute that has been presented here. After all, the Constitution contemplates not only a separation, but a balance, of powers.
In designing the structure of our Government and dividing and allocating the sovereign power among three co-equal branches, the Framers of the Constitution sought to provide a comprehensive system, but the separate powers were not intended to operate with absolute independence.
United States v. Nixon, 418 U.S. 683, 707 (1974).[/quote]
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Fast and Furious backfires. Mexico tosses Feds
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Re: Fast and Furious backfires. Mexico tosses Feds
« Reply #65 on: January 08, 2014, 10:04:31 PM »
This has to be the thread of the week.

It's for this very reason the globalist / NWO ... types want American's guns.
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Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5