Who controls Putin?

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JackFreeman

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Who controls Putin?
« on: December 11, 2010, 02:46:02 PM »
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Re: Who controls Putin?
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2010, 10:23:21 PM »
Just curious? Nobody knows?

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Re: Who controls Putin?
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2010, 11:43:00 PM »
So far I've heard the Romanov family

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Re: Who controls Putin?
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2010, 12:24:37 AM »
Or maybe a more interesting question:

Who doesn't Putin/KGB control ???

Romanov family?
->>>|:-) THE CITY INDIANS (-:|<<<-

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Re: Who controls Putin?
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2010, 12:32:34 AM »
Ron Paul 2012...because Liberty is too big to fail.
Beat Bailout Barry!!!!!!!!

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Re: Who controls Putin?
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2010, 12:42:54 AM »
My off-hand perception is that Putin isn't necessarily controlled by anyone per se.  However, Russia and Putin do not exist in a vacuum.

Within the Shanghai Cooperative Organization, Russia does seem to be subaltern now to China.  Who is more powerful -- Wen Jiabo and Hu Jintao or Valdimir Putin and (puppet) Medvedev?  I would suggest the Chinese.

Together, they are both more powerful than America (economically -- what else really matters at the end of the day?) and the Obama and Biden puppets.  (Biden is a laugh, of course.)


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Re: Who controls Putin?
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2010, 08:19:25 PM »
Now, here's an alternate take:


http://richardtomlinsonandtherussians.blogspot.com/2006/12/richard-tomlinson-and-russians.html


The comments (over 600) are very interesting.

Richard Tomlinson

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Richard Tomlinson (born 13 January 1963) is a New Zealand-born British former MI6 officer who was imprisoned in 1997 for breaking the 1989 Official Secrets Act[1] by giving the synopsis of a proposed book detailing his career in the Secret Intelligence Service to an Australian publisher.[2][3] The book, called The Big Breach, was published in Moscow in 2001.[4]

Contents [hide]
1 Education and military training
2 Military and MI6 service
3 The Big Breach
4 Other alleged breaches and assertions
4.1 List of MI6 agents
4.2 Diana, Princess of Wales
4.3 The Increment
5 Post MI6
6 References
7 External links
8 Further reading
 

[edit] Education and military training
He was born in Ngaruawahia, New Zealand and grew up in Armathwaite, England, and was educated at Barnard Castle School where he was a contemporary of England Rugby Internationals Rory Underwood and Rob Andrew. He excelled at mathematics and physics,[citation needed] and then won an entrance scholarship to Cambridge University. He was first approached by MI6 in 1984 after graduating from Gonville and Caius College, Cambridge, with a First Class Honours Degree in Engineering. He also completed flying training with Cambridge University Air Squadron, won a Cambridge Half Blue for Modern Pentathlon, and on graduation he was accepted to join the Royal Navy as a Fleet Air Arm Officer. However he instead joined a management consultancy company called LEK. It is believed that he left LEK in 1986.

He worked briefly in the summer of 1986 as an Intern at the World Bank and then subsequent to graduation from MIT, won a further prize from the Rotary Foundation, allowing him to study in the country of his choice for a year. He enrolled in a political science course at the University of Buenos Aires, where he became a fluent Spanish speaker.[5] He continued to pursue his aeronautical interests and qualified as a glider pilot with the Fuerza Aérea Argentina.

[edit] Military and MI6 service
In 1987 Tomlinson returned to the United Kingdom and served for five years in the Territorial Army's 21 SAS and in 23 SAS, qualifying as a military parachutist, and radio operator. He also represented Britain in the 1990 Camel Trophy, competing in Siberia, USSR,[6] and single-handedly crossed the Sahara desert by motorcycle. He finally joined MI6 in 1991. He completed his training with MI6 as the best recruit on his course, being awarded the rarely given "Box 1" attribute, by his instructing officers including Nicholas Langman. He then served in the "SOV/OPS" department, working during the closing phases of the Cold War against the Soviet Union, before being posted to Sarajevo as the MI6 representative in Bosnia during the breakup of the former Yugoslavia. His next posting was to work as an undercover agent against Iran, where he succeeded in penetrating the Iranian Intelligence Service, presumably SAVAMA. MI6 sacked him without warning and for unexplained reasons in 1995. MI6 failed to follow British legal procedures intended to protect employees from abusive employers. They gave him no written warning, nor reasons for the dismissal, and refused to allow Tomlinson access to a union representative.[1] Tomlinson disputed the reasons for and legality of his dismissal and attempted to take MI6 before an employment tribunal. However, MI6 realised that they would lose before an employment tribunal and would be obliged to either reinstate Tomlinson or pay him substantial damages, so they obtained a Public Interest Immunity Certificate from Foreign Secretary Sir Malcolm Rifkind. Having no further legal recourse to appeal against his dismissal, Tomlinson left the United Kingdom and pursued his arguments against MI6 publicly, by publishing articles in the international press about his treatment, and began work on a book (which later became The Big Breach).[5] As a result of Tomlinson's campaign, in 1998 the Parliamentary Intelligence and Security Committee recommended that MI6 should be subject to UK employment law.[7] Employees of MI6 (and GCHQ and MI5) now have the same employment rights as other British citizens, including written contracts and access to employment tribunals. However, MI6 refused to allow these procedures to be applied retrospectively to Tomlinson's case.

It is of note that MI6 have never succeeded in obtaining another PII certificate since the Tomlinson case, even though they have been subjected to more rigorous court scrutiny (for example the Inquest into the death of the Princess of Wales) than would have been involved in an employment tribunal.

[edit] The Big Breach
On returning to the United Kingdom in 1997, Tomlinson was arrested on suspicion of breaking the Official Secrets Act. He was accused of giving a four-page synopsis of his proposed book to an Australian publisher—though MI6 have never claimed that he revealed any secret information. Unusually, for someone with no prior criminal record, and for a non-violent offence, Tomlinson was remanded in custody at HMP Belmarsh as a Category A prisoner—a category normally reserved only for dangerous offenders. When it was announced that the trial would be held in a High Court, meaning that Tomlinson would be held on remand for up to two years, longer than any likely sentence, he pleaded guilty to breaking the Official Secrets Act. At the sentencing hearing, John Scarlett, the chief prosecution witness, claimed that Tomlinson "had gravely damaged national security" and "had put agents' lives at risk". Tomlinson was not allowed to call any defence witnesses. Tomlinson received a twelve month custodial sentence. He served six months in HMP Belmarsh before being released early for good behaviour on 1 May 1998. Since 1998, foreign police services, including those of Switzerland, Germany, Italy, France and Monaco have all arrested and detained him at the request of MI6, but he has not been subsequently charged with an offence.

On completion of his three months probationary licence on 31 August 1998, Tomlinson left the United Kingdom to live in exile. He set about completing The Big Breach, which was published in 2001 in Russia. After the Court of Appeal of England and Wales subsequently ruled in his favour it was made available in the UK. However, immediately after publication, the British Government obtained a High Court Order to confiscate proceeds from the book and any newspaper serialisation rights, on the grounds that the government owned the copyright to anything written by Tomlinson. Finally, in September 2008, MI6 dropped all legal objection to the publication of The Big Breach, released the proceeds from the publication to Tomlinson, and admitted that their previous legal actions against him were disproportionate. However, they still refused to reinstate Tomlinson in MI6, or compensate Tomlinson for the loss of his career and pension. Tomlinson can now travel freely to the UK.[8] The book can now be downloaded free in electronic form (see "External links").

[edit] Other alleged breaches and assertions
[edit] List of MI6 agents
A list of 116 alleged MI6 agents was published on one of Lyndon LaRouche's websites. It has been alleged that Tomlinson was the source of the list, but he has always denied this. In The Big Breach he states "If MI6 had set out to produce a list that caused me the maximum incrimination, but caused them the minimum damage, they could not have done a better job."

Tomlinson published a list of nine names on his own website on Geocities. The site was subsequently taken down by the host due to a complaint by a third party. He carried a link to a copy[9] of the LaRouche list on his website,[10] with comments on the inaccuracy of individual entries, intending to show that he was not its author.

[edit] Diana, Princess of Wales
Tomlinson was apprehended by French Authorities in July 2006 after a European Arrest Warrant, requested by the United Kingdom, was issued. The warrant claimed Tomlinson was involved in the publication of two lists containing the names of MI6 officers in 2005. The police seized computers, personal papers and other items from his home in Cannes, and from his place of employment, leading to the loss of this employment. He was subsequently cleared entirely of any involvements in the lists, though was never compensated for the damage to his career caused by the allegations. It was reported in some quarters that this arrest was linked to the inquiries into the death of Diana. During this period Tomlinson kept a number of blogs publicising his treatment.

In 2008, Tomlinson was a witness for the inquest into the deaths of the Princess of Wales and Dodi al Fayed. He had suggested that Britain's Secret Intelligence Service was monitoring Diana before her death and that her driver on the night she died, Henri Paul, may have been an MI6 informant, and that her death mirrored plans he saw in 1992 for the assassination of Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic, using a bright light to cause a traffic accident.

At the Coroner's Inquest into the death of the Princess, on 13 February 2008, speaking by video-link from France, Tomlinson conceded that, after the interval of 16 or 17 years, he "could not remember specifically" whether the document he had seen in 1992 had in fact proposed the use of a strobe light to cause a traffic accident as a means of assassinating Milosevic, although use of lights for this purpose had been covered in his MI6 training. On being told that no MI6 file on Henri Paul had been found, Tomlinson said that it "would be absurd after 17 years to say I can positively disagree with it, but...I do not think the fact that they did not manage to find a file rules out anything either". He said he believed MI6 had an informant at the Paris Ritz but he could not be certain, and had never claimed, that that person was necessarily Henri Paul.[11]

[edit] The Increment
Tomlinson has alleged that there is a secret paramilitary unit called "The Increment" which carries out covert operations on behalf of Her Majesty's Government,[12][13] claiming that operators are selected from the "cream of the crop" of the SAS and SBS, and work on Security Service and Secret Intelligence Service supervised missions. The same unit is known as Counter Revolutionary Warfare unit (CRW) in the SAS. The author Chris Ryan used the term in the title of his 2004 novel The Increment.

[edit] Post MI6
In 1999, Tomlinson enlisted in the French Foreign Legion, using a nom de guerre. He served with 3rd Company, 2nd Foreign Parachute Regiment until medically discharged in 2003.[14] Tomlinson retrained as a commercial pilot in 2005, and now works as a business jet pilot.

[edit] References
^ a b Former spy Richard Tomlinson quizzed BBC
^ "Ex-MI6 man jailed over memoirs", BBC
^ "Leaks feared as sacked MI6 spy launches blog", Observer
^ "Moscow to publish the memoirs of MI6 renegade" Telegraph
^ a b Richard Tomlinson, The Big Breach: From Top Secret to Maximum Security. Foreword by Nick Fielding. Mainstream Publishing 2001 ISBN 1-903813-01-8
^ [1]
^ http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20100416132449/http://www.archive.official-documents.co.uk/document/cm45/4532/4532-02.htm#gen6
^ [2]'MI6 tempts rebel ex-spy back home', The Sunday Times, May 31, 2009
^ copy
^ website
^ Hearing transcripts: 13 February 2008 - Morning session
^ The Daily Telegraph. February 13, 2008
^ The Guardian, January 26, 2001
^ [3]Le Point, January 12, 2004 duff link
[edit] External links
Tomlinson v MI6, mirror of Tomlinson's old (April-Aug 2006) blog (access to original blocked by Typepad on August 4, 2006)
MI6 v Tomlinson (it's back!) (originally called "Tomlinson v MI6 (it's back!)"), Tomlinson's blog between August 2006 and March 2007 (now defunct).
MI6 v Tomlinson (it's back!), mirror of Tomlinson's blog between August 2006 and March 2007.
MI6 v Tomlinson, Tomlinson's blog April–May 2007, defunct as of July 2007. Its mirror is still up.
Tomlinson v MI6 (blogs are forever), reserve blog
2008 Diana Inquest transcript - morning session
2008 Diana Inquest transcript - afternoon session
Exhibit from 2008 Diana Inquest
Second exhibit
Listing of Tomlinson-related websites and documents
The Big Breach download
[edit] Further reading
The Increment (2004), Chris Ryan, Century Publishing (UK). ISBN 1-84413-383-4
Spooks: Behind the Scenes (2006), Orion Books (London). ISBN 0-7528-7610-4
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Suggests that Putin was a mind-controlled Illuminati/MI6 'puppet", but got off the strings as it were after the KGB broke some encrytpted mind-control documents from the Illuminati on some stolen laptops.

I would take it with about a mountain of salt.  Nevertheless, there it is.

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Re: Who controls Putin?
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2010, 03:57:15 PM »
Thanks for the info

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Re: Who controls Putin?
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2010, 05:13:42 PM »

Putin Speaks His Mind, and Then Some, on Television


By ELLEN BARRY
Published: December 16, 2010


excerpt:

But Mr. Medvedev seems to be shrinking back from bold pronouncements lately. Mr. Putin sends a clear message that he is not only running the country, but operating it manually. His appearance on Thursday is bound to be scrutinized for clues to Russia’s central political mystery: which of the two men will run for president in 2012.

Mr. Putin barely mentioned Mr. Medvedev. He smiled, though, when someone asked who ran the country when he and Mr. Medvedev were both sleeping.

“We take turns sleeping,” he said.

for the rest of the article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/17/world/europe/17russia.html?_r=1&hp

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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2010, 09:57:52 PM »
‘Smelly Cheeses’ is programmed in via the reading and enactment of ‘Three Men in a Boat’. Every Illuminati script carries words in CAPITALS which make no sense to an outsider unless they are given the ‘true meaning’ behind their usage.


Read Chapter 4 of ‘Three Men in a Boat’ on the Gutenberg website to find out the precise programming which is couched in CAPITALS of: ‘NO CHEESES’.


Chapter 4 relates how it is most important whilst traveling and carrying ‘smelly cheeses’, not to touch the goods; nor afterwards, once one has arrived at one’s destination! All smugglers are most worried about the safety of their drugs/contraband and therefore this ruling was the one which was drummed in with the most amount of ECT programming.


http://www.richardtomlinsonmi6.blogspot.com/

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Re: Who controls Putin?
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2015, 04:58:29 PM »
His conscience controls Putin  8)

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Re: Who controls Putin?
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2016, 01:28:08 PM »
Putin was appointed by Eltsins clan (called 'Family'/Semya).

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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2016, 01:30:44 AM »
Putin was appointed by Eltsins clan (called 'Family'/Semya).



Maybe. But I Alina Kabaeva controls Putin.  ;)

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2016, 08:33:47 AM »
never checked that info. from political-technological viewpoint that kind of stories could be appealing to this fakish macho image of putin which is exploited quite often.

i noticed that it is also appealing to foreign public (john stewart had numerous similar jokes on putins shirtless fotosession in some forest). i guess it could be explained by the fact that public media relations etc was  outsorces to uk and usa agencies (ketchum for example) so they applied same techniques...


also there are rumors that vova prefer young boys.