Deutsche Bank at ground zero claims 2 firefighters, burns over 7 hours

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WTC 5 Info:
5 World Trade Center
The September 11th Attack

WTC 5 was a nine-story building that stood east of the North Tower (WTC 1). The building had two dozen tenants, with its fourth through ninth floors being occupied almost entirely by Morgan Stanley, Credit Suisse First Boston, and government agencies.
Evacuation

Apparently the evacuation of Building 5 began shortly after the North Tower was hit. The South Tower crash deposited some remains of Flight 175's hull on the roof of WTC 5, according to FEMA's Report.
Damage

WTC 5 was severely damaged by fallout from the destruction of the Towers. Large falling pieces of steel from the Towers' perimeter walls are the probable cause of the holes in the roof seen from above. The pattern of damage of the building's structure does not support the idea that it was caused by explosives in the building.
Fires

Serious fires raged through WTC 5 for hours. Despite the massive structural damage shown by the holes, and fires far more severe than those in WTC 1, 2, and 7, WTC 5 did not collapse. FEMA's report has a number of photographs of Building 5 wreckage, and concludes that fires caused the collapse of portions of this building, without making a convincing case.
Destruction

WTC 5 was demolished as part of the clean-up of Ground Zero.

[Dig]

I don't think so, and Bloomberg is now on record that it will not collapse, but there are 2 news releases that say it will.

We should ask that Jane Stanley if it is going to collapse.

[maddog3n]

Forgive my ignorance, but who is Jane Stanley?

[OneShotKi11]

Yes this is tuff i already knew. I just thought it was important to bring up being that the news was making such a big f**kup on buildings. I know its not tower 5, but i remember clearly them reporting it as being such!

[infamousaesop]

i just wonder how it ties in to how the market has been of late, interested in wall street monday, don't really know what to make of it, but thats how they wanted it right

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Jane Stanley

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2 firefighters dead in downtown NY blaze Associated Press - August 18, 2007 10:13 PM ET
NEW YORK (AP) - Two New York City firefighters have died while responding to a seven-alarm fire in an abandoned skyscraper near Ground Zero. Several others were taken to a hospital but are expected to be released. At first, authorities were concerned the former Deutsche Bank office building, vacant since September 11th, could fall. And many nearby residents were kept away from their homes. But Mayor Michael Bloomberg says that fear turned out to be unfounded. Bloomberg is trying to reassure residents that the chemicals in the building don't present a significant health risk. He says officials see no need for a frozen zone around the site. The blaze began about a dozen floors up the office tower and is burning on multiple floors at the building. Construction crews have already dismantled 14 of the building's 40 stories.

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

[maddog3n]

The link is : http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news&id=4825322

Click on the link to the right that says:  "Lower Manhattan Fire 11pm"

at 4:49 the reporter say bonfire to describe the fire that the fire fighter who died were assigned to get water too extinguish.

Was this a slip up or was is it just a poor descriptive word.

[maddog3n]

Ahhhh...I take it she with the BBC.  Thanks.

[infamousaesop]

there was complications with their gear and then at the end it says one of the dead firefighters families have yet to be told? Makes me think they've been told and they are being combative with the circumstantial evidence. what do you guys think, It says it towards the end of the video, the fact the reporter said bonfire I think is just poor reporting by a desensitized human

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Thought you guys might like to know what has been happening in the market last week and what it really means.  Considering the blackout of a 7 alarm fire on wallstreet that claimed 2 firefighters lives, injured at least 14 others and involved 2 blacked out press conferences, this might be important stuff to keep in mind:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=1868.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=1934.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=1773.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=1794.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=1776.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=1836.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=1837.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=1834.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=1791.0

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Blaze Brings Back Thoughts of 9/11

By MANNY FERNANDEZ
Published: August 19, 2007

People looked up, as they did that day in September, in awe and in horror. They clustered in groups, holding cellphones to their ears and cameras to their eyes as a plume of smoke hovered over Lower Manhattan once again.

Yet it was more than the sight that reminded some of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks nearly six years ago. It was the sounds and the smell: breaking glass clanking its way down a burning skyscraper, a helicopter’s whir somewhere above, an acrid, noxious scent filling the streets. The fire that tore through several floors of the vacated Deutsche Bank building opposite ground zero yesterday afternoon struck 24 days from the sixth anniversary of the attack on the World Trade Center. The past and the present seemed to briefly collide on the blocks surrounding ground zero, as residents and tourists, reminded of the panic of that September morning, worried anew on an August afternoon.

“When I saw people looking up, pointing, and saw a high-rise on fire, the upper floors of a high-rise on fire, I thought, this can’t be happening again,” said Karen Arthur, 42, who lives in Brooklyn and was among the crowd of rescuers, city officials and onlookers. “And it’s literally across the street from this big hole that used to be the trade center,” she added. “I prayed that it was a normal sort of fire, I really did.” For several hours, the scene around the building at 130 Liberty Street was chaotic, teeming with fire trucks, ambulances and police vehicles. Outside the building, a firefighter was carried into an ambulance by about a dozen of his colleagues. As the ambulance sped away, one firefighter called out, “Give him air! Give him air!”  Elsewhere, a police officer and a firefighter got into a shouting match and had to be separated.  Officers told guests at the nearby Marriott hotel that they would not be allowed inside until an all-clear signal was given. Residents of Lower Manhattan, many of whom were forced to relocate for months after the 2001 attacks, found themselves barred from their homes yet again.

“It was like another 9/11,” said Ed Metropolis, 57, who lives in a red-brick building near the back of the former Deutsche Bank building and was prevented from going home yesterday by a police barricade. In 2001, he said, “I couldn’t go home to get my clothes for a week. All my credit cards, my checkbook, my cash, anything.” Jillian Jaques, who lives in the same building as Mr. Metropolis at 109 Washington Street, stood with him at Washington and Rector Streets. Tourists snapped photos as Ms. Jaques and Mr. Metropolis wondered where they would stay the night. “With this going on,” Ms. Jaques added, “we can’t stick around.” She said she was heading to the Jersey Shore. The abandoned building, shrouded in a grim black fabric netting, has been more than an eyesore to its neighbors. It represented the slow pace of the rebuilding of ground zero and posed a continuing health concern as it was being dismantled because of the asbestos and other contaminants inside. The fire yesterday seemed to only worsen the building’s stigma.

“I used to work in that building, and I’ll tell you, that building is bad luck,” said Sanjay Deepti, 32, who lives in Battery Park City. “It should have been torn down long ago. It’s jinxed.” Michael K. Williams, 28, a publicist who rents a one-bedroom apartment at 90 West Street, a building overlooking ground zero about one block away from the Deutsche Bank tower, said he was not in the least surprised by the fire. “That whole building is such as disaster,” he said. “It’s riddled with problems.” Mr. Williams said that now he is even more concerned about breathing in asbestos emanating from the building. “You could smell it,” he said. “I don’t want to breathe that stuff.” By 6 p.m., Mr. Metropolis was let back inside his building to get some belongings, and he decided not to come back out.  He said he headed to the roof, joining his neighbors to watch the abandoned skyscraper burn. He heard a loud boom, and he said he felt his throat get very dry. He thought there was some residue of asbestos in the air. “The smell and the taste went from campfire to dramatically chemical,” he said. “My throat was dry and irritated.” Mr. Metropolis, a customer service manager at American Stock Transfer and Trust Company, grew up in the building on Washington Street. After Sept. 11, he moved back in four months later.  “We went through hell,” he said. By 7:30 p.m., Fire Department trucks, communications units and ladder trucks gathered at West Street and Liberty Street, only a few blocks from where there was a similar command center on Sept. 11. “We came to see the trade center site and pay our respects,” said Bryan Cooper, 24, a tourist from England. “Now we understand people have died again.” He added: “Thank God it’s not terrorism, but it’s a tragedy that it’s happened at all.” Reporting was contributed by Emily Brady, John Eligon, Anthony Ramirez, Fernanda Santos and Timothy Williams.

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[maddog3n]

Thanks for the pictures....amazing.

[Dig]

Kregener, did the videos you saw look like this?


FOUR VIDEOS UP! Click on the image to play...
   

Did you wonder why such a blaze that burned for over 7 hours, multiple floors, 340 firefighters gets maybe two minutes of total coverage when this:




Got over 300 hours of coverage with the same 10 minute loop going over and over again?

[JTCoyoté]

Sane...

Still Burning:



This picture of the building with the words "still burning" above it... those sparkler affairs are THERMITE REACTIONS.... The bastards are trying to create their own proof that steel sky scrapers will collapse if they burn...The FUQUES!!!

Urban renewal, Neo-Con style...Keep those cameras rolling in high-res everyone!!!
--Oldyoti

"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." -- James Madison

[jbrid1138]

Here's the MSNBC reporting on the fire:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20338507/

You might want to take a peek at this photo link // see all that steel there?  It hasn't fallen down, or fallen up, or fallen sideways, or anything except to stay put and make the WTC 'official version' even more of a flat out lie:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20339745/displaymode/1176/rstry/20338507/

[Gator]

Do ya see.....ya need 2750 deg. F. to bring down steel.  600 deg. F. won't even turn it red !  Keep it in mind, the steel in the Trade Towers were twice as thick, with more intricate connections which allowed the support columns to be on the outside of the buildings, as well as a 48 piece core column in the center. 

[Gator]

Does anyone know if this was a German Bank ?  I'm just wondering about Prescot Bush with his connections to Germany before WWII ? 

[Dig]

This is part of Deutsche Bank who was the last spot of the halted investigation into the put options in the days before 9/11

Good catch i forgot about that:

9/11 Insider TradingOn September 10, 4516 put options on American Airlines were bought on the ... Brown, the American investment banking arm of German giant Deutsche Bank, ...
http://www.hereinreality.com/insidertrading.html - 54k - Cached - Similar pages

Complete 911 Timeline: Insider Trading and Other ForeknowledgeSome speculate later that this could have to do with the role of Deutsche Bank in the pre-9/11 purchases of put options on the stock of companies most ...
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&before_9/11=insidertrading - 132k - Cached - Similar pages

SUPPRESSED DETAILS OF CRIMINAL INSIDER TRADING LEAD DIRECTLY INTO ...[The levels of put options purchased above were more than six times higher ... Brown, the American investment banking arm of German giant Deutsche Bank, ...
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/illegaltrades.html - 17k - Cached - Similar pages

Details of 9/11 Insider Trading Lead Directly to CIA's Highest RanksAnd, as we shall see, Deutsche Bank played several key roles in events connected .... made by those who bought put options on airlines stocks before 9-11? ...
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/illegaltades.html - 18k - Cached - Similar pages

Illegal stock trades prior to 9/11 trace back to the CIA“Put Options,” are contracts giving the buyer the option to sell stocks at a ... The source familiar with the United trades identified Deutsche Bank Alex. ...
http://www.themodernreligion.com/terror/wtc-stocks-cia.html - 17k - Cached - Similar pages

Business as usual -- 9/11 and the fall of AmericaIn fact, Deutsche Bank was heavily involved in the 9/11 “put options” transactions. The Deutsche bank building still stands today at the WTC site, ...
http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_842.shtml - 35k - Cached - Similar pages

NewsMine.org - 9 11 trades.txtOne of the biggest occupants of the World Trade Centre was Morgan Stanley, the investment bank. In the first week of September, an average of 27 put option ...
http://newsmine.org/archive/9-11/questions/stocks-trades/9-11-trades.txt - 8k - Cached - Similar pages

The Terror Timeline: Year by Year, Day by Day, Minute by Minute: A ... - Google Books Resultby Paul Thompson - 2004 - Political Science - 608 pages
Some speculate later that this could have to do with the role of Deutsche Bank in the pre-9/11 purchases of put options on the stock of companies most ...
http://books.google.com/books?isbn=0060783389...

Shoestring Century: 9/11 Anomaly: Insider TradingPut options trading in AUL stock went up to 285 times the normal daily average on the ... Many United Airlines options were bought through Deutsche Bank, ...
http://shoestringcentury.blogspot.com/2007/02/911-anomaly-insider-trading.html - 62k - Cached - Similar pages

[Gator]

GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY !  The damn Bank was Bin Laden's Bank ! 

No wonder they can't tear that damn thing down fast enough;

"Gertrude, better get out the THERMATE again !"

[maddog3n]

LOL...Gertrude better get the thermite...that pretty damn funny.

[jbrid1138]

FYI -- Deutsche Bank translates as Bank of Germany.  In fact Germany (that's English) in the German language it is spelled DEUTSCHELAND.  Thought some of you might find that of interest.

Here's what wiki has to say in part about it all:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Bank

History
Deutsche Bank was founded in Germany on January 22, 1870 as a specialist bank for foreign trade in Berlin by the private banker Adelbert Delbruck and the politician Ludwig Bamberger. Its first branches outside Germany were opened in Shanghai, Yokohama (1872) and London (1873). The first directors were Wilhelm Platenius, Georg von Siemens, and Hermann Wallich. Deutsche Bank acquired the banks Berliner Bank-Verein and Deutsche Union-Bank in 1876 and became then the largest bank in Germany, surpassing the Disconto-Gesellschaft.

Major projects in its first decades included the Northern Pacific Railroad in the United States (1883) and the Baghdad Railway (1888). It also financed bond offerings of the steel concern Krupp (1885) and introduced the chemical company Bayer on the Berlin stock market.

September 11th attacks
On September 11, 2001, the Deutsche Bank Building, located at 130 Liberty Street in New York City and acquired two years earlier as part of the merger with Bankers Trust, was damaged beyond repair as a result of the 9/11 Terrorist Attack. Large pieces of debris from the Twin Towers hit the Deutsche Bank building, creating a large hole in its center and destroying its main entrance and lobby.

Deutsche Bank sued their insurance carriers to require them to pay out the claims, and in December 2004, Deutsche Bank settled with the insurance carriers and then sold the building to the Lower Manhattan Redevelopment Corporation.[3]

Deutsche Bank relocated most of its NYC Area units to 60 Wall Street - acquired earlier in 2001 and formerly occupied by J.P. Morgan Chase.

On August 18th, 2007 a seven alarm fire broke out around the 15th floor of the now-empty building on Liberty Street. Subsequently, 2 FDNY firefighter died of smoke inhalation, 5 other firefighters were injured. No civilians have been reported injured. The building is in progress of being deconstructed due to the damage caused on 9/11.[4]