Deutsche Bank at ground zero claims 2 firefighters, burns over 7 hours

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Two FireFighters Died, they were Joseph Graffagnino (Right),
33, of Brooklyn, who had been with the department for eight years,
and Robert Beddia(Left), 53, of Staten Island.
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and was the senior firefighter on the scene.
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Ground Zero Blaze Kills 2 Firefighters

By RAY RIVERA and FERNANDA SANTOS Published: August 19, 2007

Two firefighters were killed Saturday battling a blaze that tore through several floors of the vacant Deutsche Bank skyscraper opposite ground zero Saturday afternoon, sending potentially toxic plumes of smoke over Lower Manhattan in a scene eerily reminiscent of the Sept. 11 terrorist attack. One of the firefighters died of cardiac arrest, a fire official said, adding that it was unclear what caused the other death. The fire appeared to have started between the 14th and 15th floors and spread from there to other portions of the tower, which once stood 41 stories, including scaffolding propped against its side, fire officials said. Crowds of onlookers watched as burning debris fell to the street below.

The cause of the fire was unknown. But the building, which was heavily damaged during the Sept. 11 attack, was being dismantled piece by piece because of toxic leftovers from that day nearly six years ago. Much of that work involved acetylene torches. In addition to asbestos, the building had been laden with excessive levels of seven hazardous substances, including dioxin, lead and chromium. Workers had removed about 15 stories, at 130 Liberty Street, before Saturday. City and environmental officials reached Saturday could not immediately say whether the acrid smoke billowing over the area contained harmful contaminants, but many nearby residents remain distrustful of the air quality since the 9/11 attacks. The fire started around 3:30 p.m., sending hundreds of firefighters, as well as city, state and federal officials to the site; at least some of these officials were wearing protective masks like those worn by doctors at a hospital.

Bonnie Bellow, a spokeswoman with the federal Environmental Protection Agency, said work was being performed at the building yesterday, as on most Saturdays. The shift ended at 3:30 p.m., right around the time the Fire Department received the first reports of a fire at the building. Ms. Bellow said there were 12 air-quality monitors installed in and around the building. One of these monitors is on the 15th floor scaffold, two others are on the rooftops of adjacent buildings, and several others are on the ground, she said. "At this point, we're gathering whatever results we can from these monitors," Ms. Bellow added. "For some of the contaminants, we can get instant readings, but other contaminants require further analysis of the monitors' readings at a laboratory." She could not provide more specifics. Mary Costello, a spokeswoman for Bovis Lend Lease, the construction company in charge of the building's dismantlement, deferred all comments to the Fire Department.

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[Rock]

Based on that video I just seen, I would have to say the building should have come down in 6.5 seconds.  That building had a greater fire then building 7 (WT7).

Maybe its a fluke, that this building is the only one not to pancake due to fire in NY.  After all, the city has a history of buildings coming down from small fires.

Rock

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Fire at former Deutsche Bank building, damaged on Sept. 11
Newsday, NY - 10 minutes ago
By VERENA DOBNIK | AP Writer 6:29 PM EDT, August 18, 2007 NEW YORK - A four-alarm fire in the abandoned Deustche Bank skyscraper sent a plume of gray smoke ...
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--deutschebank-fire0818aug18,0,4484184.story?coll=ny-homepage-big-pix
Fire at former Deutsche Bank building; 2 firefighters critical
By VERENA DOBNIK | Associated Press Writer
6:39 PM EDT, August 18, 2007

NEW YORK - A five-alarm fire in the abandoned Deustche Bank skyscraper sent a plume of gray smoke trailing above ground zero Saturday afternoon as firetrucks and police cars raced through lower Manhattan to reach a building already decimated by the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Two firefighters were critically injured while trying to reach the fire, which began about a dozen floors up in the tower left vacant since Sept. 11 turned it into a toxic nightmare, fire officials said. One firefighter suffered cardiac arrest and another smoke inhalation. A third suffered minor injuries to an ankle, fire officials at the scene said. The fire was burning on multiple floors at the building, where construction crews had already dismantled 14 of the building's 40 stories _ reaching the 26th floor on Tuesday. Some firefighters used stairs to reach the burning upper floors. The cause of the fire was unknown. Smoke pouring from the burning building was visible from midtown Manhattan and the New Jersey side of the Hudson River. NYU Downtown Hospital reported its emergency room was treating at least one patient brought in from the blaze. The acrid smell of smoke, which hung over the neighborhood for days after Sept. 11, returned to lower Manhattan along with the wail of emergency vehicles. More than three dozen fire vehicles, with 168 firefighters, responded to the blaze as pieces of burning debris fell from the building to the streets.

Scaffolding on the sides of the building was aflame as police shut down streets in the area around ground zero. The building at 130 Liberty St. has become a constant headache for redevelopers in the nearly six years since the attacks. The 1.4 million square foot office tower stood as a downtown Manhattan eyesore, contaminated with toxic dust and debris after the World Trade Center's south tower collapsed into it. Efforts to dismantle the skyscraper were halted by a labor dispute last year, along with the ongoing search for the remains of attack victims. More than 700 bones and fragments were discovered in the contaminated skyscraper from mid-2005 to June of this year, including some positively matched this year to a previously unidentified victim. The last bones found at the building were in March, leading city officials to conclude their search three months later. There was another weeklong shutdown of work in May, when a 22-foot pipe fell through the roof of a nearby firehouse from the 35th floor.

Two years ago, redevelopment officials said the building contained excessive levels of seven hazardous susbstances, including dioxin and lead. As part of the tear down, a dozen air quality monitors were installed in the area around the building.

Officials did not immediately comment on whether the smoke at the scene contained any toxic chemicals. A spokesman for the Empire State Development Corp. said the agency, which is overseeing redevelopment at ground zero, was working with emergency officials to assess the impact of the fire.

[maddog3n]

Very good analysis Sane...I don't understand people who don't get this...a fire in Wall Street....with all the crap that has been going on with the stock market over the last two weeks....and now in the Deutches Bank there is a FIRE!!!!!  I can hear it now...oh it just coincidence.  I wonder what is being covered up.  Or more importantly what is being destroyed.

[infamousaesop]

they've been trying to tear the building down for some time but a labor dispute halted the process, so what there gonna make the firefighters deal with it

[AmericasPatriot]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293713,00.html

"Officers at the scene said the building was in danger of collapse after a seven-alarm fire ripped through the vacant structure near ground zero, police told the Associated Press."
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More B.S. to prop up the Goverments "paper fire destroyed the Towers" theory.

I'm surprised the feds didn't put thermite in the Deutsche building to keep the 9/11 fairy tale alive.

[infamousaesop]

The fire started around 3:30 p.m., sending hundreds of firefighters, as well as city, state and federal officials to the site; at least some of these officials were wearing protective masks like those worn by doctors at a hospital.

Bonnie Bellow, a spokeswoman with the federal Environmental Protection Agency, said work was being performed at the building Saturday, as on most Saturdays. The shift ended at 3:30 p.m., right around the time the Fire Department received the first reports of a fire at the building.

this isn't a coincidence

[infamousaesop]

The fire started around 3:30 p.m., sending hundreds of firefighters, as well as city, state and federal officials to the site; at least some of these officials were wearing protective masks like those worn by doctors at a hospital.

Bonnie Bellow, a spokeswoman with the federal Environmental Protection Agency, said work was being performed at the building Saturday, as on most Saturdays. The shift ended at 3:30 p.m., right around the time the Fire Department received the first reports of a fire at the building.

no coincidence, kick that gator f**k off here that nieve son of a bitch is a neocon and he doesen't even know it

[infamousaesop]

why does the news report some had masks some didn't shouldn't they have been warned of the toxins at the building, and why were the laborers striking earlier, did that have to do with the destruction or just a small part of the equation?

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7-alarm fire imperils former Deutsche Bank skyscraper

NEW YORK -- The former Deutsche Bank skyscraper was in danger of collapse after a seven-alarm fire ripped through the vacant structure near ground zero and critically injured at least two firefighters, police said.

Officers at the scene were preventing nearby residents from returning to their homes even to rescue pets, telling them that authorities were concerned the building, vacant since Sept. 11 turned it into a toxic nightmare, could fall. Two firefighters were critically injured while trying to reach the fire at the building, fire officials said. The blaze began about a dozen floors up in the tower. One firefighter suffered cardiac arrest and another smoke inhalation. A third suffered minor injuries to an ankle, fire officials at the scene said. The fire was burning on multiple floors at the building. Construction crews had already dismantled 14 of the building's 40 stories -- reaching the 26th floor on Tuesday. Some firefighters used stairs to reach the burning upper floors. More than two hours after the blaze was first reported, the blaze was declared a six-alarm fire. Officials continued to push onlookers further back from the building and set up a command post on the West Side Highway. Officials could be seen poring over a map of the area. The cause of the fire was unknown. Smoke pouring from the burning building was visible from midtown Manhattan and the New Jersey side of the Hudson River. The acrid smell of smoke, which hung over the neighborhood for days after Sept. 11, returned to lower Manhattan along with the wail of emergency vehicles. More than three dozen fire vehicles, with more than 160 firefighters, responded to the blaze as pieces of burning debris fell from the building to the streets.

Scaffolding on the sides of the building was aflame as police shut down streets in the area around ground zero. The building at 130 Liberty St. has become a constant headache for redevelopers in the nearly six years since the attacks. The 1.4 million square foot office tower stood as a downtown Manhattan eyesore, contaminated with toxic dust and debris after the World Trade Center's south tower collapsed into it. Efforts to dismantle the skyscraper were halted by a labor dispute last year, along with the ongoing search for the remains of attack victims. More than 700 bones and fragments were discovered in the contaminated skyscraper from mid-2005 to June of this year, including some positively matched this year to a previously unidentified victim. The last bones found at the building were in March, leading city officials to conclude their search three months later.

There was another weeklong shutdown of work in May, when a 22-foot pipe fell through the roof of a nearby firehouse from the 35th floor. Two years ago, redevelopment officials said the building contained excessive levels of seven hazardous susbstances, including dioxin and lead. As part of the tear down, a dozen air quality monitors were installed in the area around the building. Officials did not immediately comment on whether the smoke at the scene contained any toxic chemicals. A spokesman for the Empire State Development Corp. said the agency, which is overseeing redevelopment at ground zero, was working with emergency officials to assess the impact of the fire. 
(Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

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FROM GOOGLE:
Fire threatens collapse of former Deutsche Bank skyscraper next to ...
CJAD - 48 minutes ago
NEW YORK (AP) - An abandoned New York skyscraper was in danger of collapse after a huge fire ripped through the building near ground zero and critically ...

[maddog3n]

Back on to what's happening with the Deutches Bank fire...the questions that I have and that I will be trying to get answers too are:

Who own's the building now?

If after 9/11 it was sold, who owned it before?

What could be in there that they couldn't get rid of and don't want anyone else finding?


Obviously, there could be a hundred questions with this but I think these are the important ones now.  Remember, follow the money, it will always take you back to the causation.

[maddog3n]

The questions that I have and that I will be trying to get answers too are:

Who own's the building now?

If after 9/11 it was sold, who owned it before?

What could be in there that they couldn't get rid of and don't want anyone else finding?


Obviously, there could be a hundred questions with this but I think these are the important ones now.  Remember, follow the money, it will always take you back to the causation.

[maddog3n]

If they blow the building, is that going to cause the toxic products in there to be released, and wouldn't that shut down wall street?  Effectively setting up the chain reaction they need.

[maddog3n]

Well I think this might be an answer:

Carola Von Hoffmannstahl-Solomonoff
Publisher and Editor

WELCOME
to On The QT #13. On the scene. 9/11/01 left many examining the state of the nation. Prior to the war, polls indicated the USA was becoming a "low trust society". Meaning many felt uneasy about their fellow citizens. On the streets, in business dealings and in the halls of government, people worried they'd receive what's commonly called a

"ROYAL SCREWJOB".
Meet Kevin Ingram, ex Goldman Sachs bond trader, ex Deutches Bank mortgage maestro, ex dot commer, ex restauranteur, ex real estate developer and after being caught this June in an FBI sting, ex money launderer. Of close to three million dollars which was to be used to buy weapons for terrorists. Weapons sought by Kevin Ingram's associates included Stinger missiles, silencer equipped machine guns, grenade launchers and a little killer called a MR20, a nuclear missile trigger. The kind used in building a suitcase sized nuclear device. Heroin was to be part of the deal. The foreign country seeking the weapons was thought to be Pakistan; a possible recipient of the weapons Ossama Bin Laden, aka

THE CONTRACTOR.
Called so by his followers because his family made their fortune in the building trade. And speaking of construction, one of Kevin Ingram's residences was a condo in Jersey City, New Jersey. Where Ingram had a business partner, Diajaa Mohsin. Together with another partner they made up B.I.A. Construction, with an address on York Street. Egyptian born Mohsin introduced Kevin Ingram to Mohhammed Raja Malek, a Pakistani native who'd been a Jersey City resident for over thirty years and who also served on the Jersey City zoning board. Malek, known as "Mike", owned a string of liquor stores and smoke shops. Diajaa Mohsin also had contacts in Florida. Including a convicted money launderer and dubious diamond dealer named Randy Glass(!). Via Glass the Feds glommed on to Mohsin's and Malik's unseemly interest in illegal arms. Glass was squeezed, then wired for sound. He told Mohsin he had access to military goodies. Beginning in 1998, Glass and various undercover agents met with Mohsin, Malek and Kevin Ingram in Boca Raton, Florida and at Robert De Niro's Tribeca Grill in lower Manhattan and had numerous discussions about washing big dirty bucks and buying

BIG DEADLY BANGS.
Early this Summer the trio was busted. Along with several others involved with the deal. One was an associate of Kevin Ingram's-- Walter Kapij, an airplane broker from Wethersfield, Connecticut, In late August Kevin Ingram pled guilty to money laundering. He agreed to pay the US government $185,000 and also agreed to paint Mohsin and Malik into a corner. As sentencing approaches, Ingram's attorney says Ingram had no idea the dirty money was meant for weapons.

BRIDGE, ANYONE?
Kevin Ingram is a MIT and Stamford grad. A real estate finance honcho who ran the mortgage trading service at Goldman Sachs for 6 years and later headed the mortgage backed securities department at Deutsche Bank. In 1998 he was Deutsche Bank's man in London, heading their global asset securitization department. London has a rep as a banking haven for terrorists: including the Bin Laden financial network. Ingram also had offices in the World Trade Center, which radical Islamic terrorists, living in Jersey City, bombed in 1993. Would Kevin Ingram launder money with business partner Diajaa Mohsin and Muhhammed Raja Malek, both of Jersey City, without knowing what he was washing? For close to three years? Also consider that when Kevin Ingram was nabbed in Fort Lauderdale, Florida (where the final money exchange took place) he lied about his assets at his initial bail hearing. His attorney said Ingram "panicked" and hence didn't mention a 1.5 million dollar Swiss bank account. Or his share in a restaurant in lower Manhattan. Plus quite a few other major assets. And when Kevin Ingrim was busted in Florida, he was about to head for Amsterdam in a Lear jet provided by airplane broker Walter Kapij. With 2.2 million dirty dollars in hand. Which would have been
his second

MYSTERIOUS DEPARTURE
In 1996, Kevin Ingram had been hired to run Deutsche Bank's mortgage backed securities business. Two years later he was pressured to resign. Ingram's department ran huge trading losses. Others say office politics were behind his being axed. Ingram did not go gently into pink slip night. He called in Jesse Jackson to negotiate his departure. Ingram, who in 1996 was named one of the top 25 African American "movers and shakers on Wall Street" by Black Enterprise magazine, said racism was at work. He demanded 20 million dollars severance. At the time Deutsche Bank was in the process of acquiring Bankers Trust. Did the threat of a PC dust up, during a heavily regulated acquisition, cause Deutsche to quake in their liederhosen? Whatever the reason, Deutsche settled with Ingram for an undisclosed sum. Commonly believed to have been at least 10 million. Ingram donated generously to Jackson's Rainbow Push then moved on to

WAFFLES.
In 1999 he joined the real estate drive into Harlem. As chief executive of I.W, Development L.L.C., based in Midtown Manhattan, Ingram got in on reopening historic Harlem Be Bop shrine Minton's Playhouse and renovating Well's Famous Home of Chicken and Waffles. Minton's had floundered in an earlier renovation attempt, one spearheaded by celebs. Including Robert De Niro. The new financing for both Minton's and Wells was to be a package deal, with the HUD related Upper Manhattan Empowerment Zone arranging loans of almost a million dollars and Ingram raising whatever else was needed. Ingram never kicked in his part of the package; but he did receive $200,000 from the Upper Manhattan Empowerment Zone. Who hit the litigation trail in an attempt to recover. Minton's and Wells
went nowhere.

BUZZ
In mid 2000, when Internet bond trading hype was running full throttle, Kevin Ingram launched TruMarkets, a site designed to trade securities electronically-- including derivatives and mortgage bonds. The buzz was good and investment support was impressive. Much of it from politicians and Wall Street heavies. Nonetheless TruMarkets went bankrupt in March, 2001. A few months later an undercover agent asked Ingram to launder the last and biggest weapons payment-- 2.2 million dollars. Ingram dithered at the agent's blunt description of the transaction, but finally said, "I'm a professional and I have a reputation, but I don't mind making money". He never mentioned
the word

TRAITOR.
If citizen was an impossible loyalty, how about "I'm a human being: I do mind harming people"?

ME & MY PROFIT.
Certain words in Kevin Ingram's story echo widely as the importance of laundered money emerges post 9/11/01. Arms. Foreign assets. Drugs. Diamonds. Real Estate. Mortgage Banks and brokers. Construction. HUD money. Money money. Equally resonant is Kevin Ingram's anomic description of himself. The same lonely light shines in the eyes of many. Dreams of "My Own Private Money Bin" absorb far more people than Kevin Ingram and not just those in economic and political elites. When money is God, people treat it as an unexamined first principle. No one asks from whence it comes. Greater attention to what's called "Black Money" may prove beneficial. Illuminating some dark corners. Not all of them
Over There.

PS
rhymes with BS. In New Jersey, Republican Bret Schundler is running for governor. Claiming he can improve security and protect New Jersey from terrorism. Bret Schundler was mayor of Jersey City during most of the 90's. From the 93 WTC bombing through the Ingram/Malek/Mohsen salad days. Jersey City (pop roughly 350,000) is still a pretty small town politically. And economically. You gotta ask-- just how closely did Bret monitor terrorist circles or sources of money in his very own city?


Now I will be the first to admit that this sounds like a bad James Bond movie as a set up for an arch villian, but I don't believe in coincidence.  And how coincidental is that we have this guy doing all kinds of crazy stuff with mortgages, the mortgage market in specifically and wall street in general is labeled "Armageddon", and now the same building prior to all this is on fire.  Obviously, nothing conclusive but makes you wonder, doesn't it.

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Two New York firefighters killed in massive blaze
NEW YORK (CNN) -- Two firefighters were killed Saturday while battling a blaze at a building just south of New York's ground zero, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said, calling it "another cruel blow" to the city. I-Reporter Meg Hammond captured this image of the Deutsche Bank building on fire in Manhattan. The firefighters became trapped, Bloomberg told reporters. Both were taken to Beekman Hospital in cardiac arrest and later were pronounced dead, he said. Doctors said the amount of carbon monoxide in their lungs was enough to cause cardiac arrest, Bloomberg said.  Both firefighters were in FDNY Ladder Company 5, which also lost firefighters in the September 11, 2001, attack on the World Trade Center.  Bloomberg identified one of the victims as Joseph Graffagnino, 34, an eight-year veteran with FDNY. The second firefighter's name was not released because relatives had not been notified, the mayor said. "I'd like to remind everyone, these are the men and women who rush into danger when we run away," Bloomberg said. "They make the ultimate sacrifice."  The mayor said another "five or six" firefighters were hurt while fighting the blaze, but all had either been released from area hospitals or soon would be.   The seven-alarm fire began about 3:40 p.m. on the 14th or 15th floor of the Deutsche Bank building and spread through several floors. Its cause was not immediately known. "We heard this crashing," a woman who lives nearby told The Associated Press. "And then a huge fire that went up three floors fast. It was massive." No civilian injuries were reported, officials said. Some 60 units and up to 250 firefighters were on the scene.

But by about 8:30 p.m., the fire was all but extinguished, said Andrew Troisi, spokesman for the city's Office of Emergency Management. Firefighters remained on the scene. Air quality and environmental effects from the blaze were being monitored, he said.  Debris falling from the twin towers on 9/11 damaged the building, according to the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, which has since acquired the building.  Deconstruction operations began in March for the 40-story building, according to the LMDC. It is currently deconstructed to the 26th floor.
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5 HOURS MULTIPLE FLOORS

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‘No Danger’ of Collapse at Deutsche Bank Fire, Mayor Says; 2 Firefighters Are Dead
By Ray Rivera Updated, 11:15 p.m.

Two firefighters are dead from injuries they sustained fighting a fire at the vacant Deutsche Bank building at 130 Liberty Street opposite ground zero today, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg confirmed at a news conference this evening. Mr. Bloomberg said the fire was not yet under control but there was “no danger” that the building would collapse. He identified one of the dead as Firefighter Joseph Graffagnino, 34, of Brooklyn, who had with the department for eight years. The other firefighter was subsequently identified as Robert Beddia, 53, of Staten Island. Both firefighters were from a fire house — Engine 24, Ladder 5 and Battalion 2 — that lost 11 firefighters on Sept. 11, 2001.  The firefighters, in cardiac arrest, were taken to New York Downtown Hospital, where they were pronounced dead. “Sadly today once again two of New York City’s bravest have made the ultimate sacrifice answering the call of duty,” the mayor said after 9 p.m. at a news conference at the hospital. Mr. Bloomberg added, “As of now the fire is still not under control. The cause of the fire will be investigated by fire marshals as soon as firefighters have extinguished the remaining pockets of fire.”

The mayor was joined at the news conference by Fire Commissioner Nicholas Scoppetta; Louis J. Garcia, the chief fire marshal; Frank P. Cruthers, the first deputy fire commissioner; Dr. David J. Prezant, chief medical officer at the Fire Department; Dr. Lee Winter, chief of anesthesiology at the hospital; Stephen J. Cassidy, president of the Uniformed Firefighters Association; and John McDonnell of the Uniformed Fire Officers Association.  Flames tore through several floors of the building this afternoon and evening, sending potentially toxic plumes of smoke over Lower Manhattan in a scene eerily reminiscent of the Sept. 11 terrorist attack.  The structure is known to contain asbestos and other toxic materials, but the mayor said: “All the preliminary tests say that there is not any environmental danger.”

Mr. Bloomberg also said:
Air quality and the environmental impact, as you might imagine, are a top concern to us and we are monitoring the situation very closely. We are very much aware about the Lower Manhattan community’s concern about the possible environmental effect regarding the demolition of this building.  Right now, our health experts at the Health Department and the Department of Environmental Protection do not see the need for a frozen zone other than in the immediate area for the purpose of conducting fire and emergency operations but we will continue to monitor air quality as the situation develops. …

Today’s events really are another cruel blow to our city and to the Fire Department and specifically to the house that Engine 24, Ladder 5 and Battalion 2 are in. They are just across the street from the Deutsche Bank building and on Sept. 11, 11 people from this house were killed.

Commissioner Scoppetta said:
This was an especially difficult fire, made especially difficult because that building is under demolition. There was a lot of asbestos abatement going on, being monitored all the time. Civilian employees saw smoke, notified an elevator operator, he discovered fire on the 17th floor, workers all went down with him, and the Fire Department was notified. We were here in less than three and a half minutes. There were 87 units, 475 firefighters, fight a truly difficult fire, because of the smoke conditions as well as the fire. We had to lift lines from the street, with ropes in order to get it up to the 17th floor, because that building, being under demolition, being in the condition that it is. …

Terrible event, terrible tragedy — that house being hit again makes it all the more devastating. In discussing the matter further, Mr. Bloomberg said the two firefighters were “found right away” and pulled out of the fire. “Doctors said the level of carbon monoxide is at such an elevated level that it’s not surprising that they went into cardiac arrest. It’s not always fatal. But clearly at that level I am told it is very dangerous.” He elaborated on the structural integrity of the skyscraper: “We’ve had the Buildings Department in there, they’ve looked at every floor and they are totally satisfied that there is no danger whatsoever. The fire was not that hot. The aluminum decking may melt, but the basic structure of the building, our Buildings Department has said quite explicitly, is secure.”

Bonnie Bellow, a federal spokeswoman for the Environmental Protection Agency, told us:
There are monitors that are in place to monitor any release that could happen as a result of deconstruction of the building. There are four on the 15th floor, four on the ground level, and four on the rooftops of adjacent buildings. At this point, we don’t have information because the Fire Department is still on the scene. On Friday, The Times published an explanatory article and a slide show about the ongoing dismantling of the building. About 14 floors have already been dismantled.  The Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, which took ownership of the building in August 2004, has a Web site with extensive resources on the building, including past air monitoring results and the plan for deconstructing the building.

Here are fire scene pictures from the NewYorkology blog.

Sewell Chan contributed reporting.

[DIG_THE_HEAVY]

Very good analysis Sane...I don't understand people who don't get this...a fire in Wall Street....with all the crap that has been going on with the stock market over the last two weeks....and now in the Deutches Bank there is a FIRE!!!!!  I can hear it now...oh it just coincidence.  I wonder what is being covered up.  Or more importantly what is being destroyed.

It's the put options that accentuates the fire....that's what is worrying me

[Dig]

Check out the Update!

Bloomberg said no chance of collapse.

[DIG_THE_HEAVY]

Two firefighters are dead from injuries they sustained fighting a fire at the vacant Deutsche Bank building at 130 ..
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=captaincaveman&hl=en-US&hl=en&q=Deutches+Bank+fire

[Dig]

The put options means that their should be more 24/7 news coverage on downtown, but there is not.  Looks like we are gonna have fun for black monday.

EU and fed paid for all the puts, and all internet traders were blocked out of the heist.

Monday could be fricking crazy.

[DIG_THE_HEAVY]

Two firefighters are dead from injuries they sustained fighting a fire at the vacant Deutsche Bank building at 130 ..
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=captaincaveman&hl=en-US&hl=en&q=Deutches+Bank+fire

[Dig]

For those of you unfamiliar with the information about the put options, go to this post:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=1834.0

[OneShotKi11]

That building on fire is tower number 5. The building from what i understand was already being demolished. Ironworkwers are taking it aprt from the roof down, and the building was bought by J.P Morgan banking!!!

Hope that answeres some questions, and thats what the news report just said!!!!

[maddog3n]

I think we are on the same sheet Dig...I was typing fast and didn't explain myself very clear.  But to be truthful, I wasn't even thinking about the push options, I was thinking more along the lines of: fire spreading, toxic fumes and dust spreading by wind and/or building collapse which would cause Wall Street to close indefinitely.  Then I  thought about maybe there is something in the building that had been removed that need to be recovered but after finding out that it had been totally gutted I went back to the other premises.  But good post for explaining the other stuff.

[maddog3n]

One Shot - what news feed are you using?  The only one I get anything on is the ABC7 website.  Thanks.

[Dig]

[Dig]

Bldg 5 and every other WTC building blew up or was control demolitioned via cables.

This was the deutsche building that was not part of the WTC complex, but it had more damage than WTC7.  It was always odd why 7 imploded yet deutsche remained.  That was before I saw loose change.

this building was being prepared for demolition.  14 floors were already cleared then there was labor protests, then fire.

The whole thing stinks because of the obvious blackout.

It is so obvious that whenever they say something is a terrorist attack it is because they must have done it.

Since this does look like something else and they did not do it, no coverage.

Also I believe since 9/11 there is an agreement on MSM that they never show high rises on fire.

[DIG_THE_HEAVY]

How much you want to bet it collapses!!.....you see that shit dripping......controlled demo
You know why they are hiding it......First controlled demo is illegal in NYC and they don't want the collapse on film,.........!!!!!!!

[infamousaesop]

http://www.renewnyc.com/displaynews.aspx

[maddog3n]

Is it just me or the picture just to the left of the one with the fire fighters in shorts walking toward the fire truck.  Does it look like the building is leaning to the left.  The other building in the background is what I'm using as a reference point and it may be just the angle that the picture was taken but what does everyone else think?

[maddog3n]

Yeah I saw that interview as well Sane.  Thanks for article.

[OneShotKi11]

Actually im not sure i was watching the news in the hospital with my dad, but im positive they said that this was building #5 of the WTC complex!!! When they said it i was confused because i live in New York and i know the buildings very well. I had no clue that the deutsche building was building number 5. Anyway they also made mention the the building being covered asbestos so i found it weird that the Mayor didnt find the need to mention it. All he said was they are keeping a close watch on the air quality!

Im am sure they called it building 5 and now that i think back i was watching the WB11 news. I think the report was on at around 11:00! All i know its it came on right after the Met game ended and was the first story they showed!

[infamousaesop]

Under the agreement, JPMorgan Chase will pay the Port Authority $290 million for the development rights for Site 5. The lease for the site, which is subject to approval by the Port Authority’s Board of Commissioners at their meeting next week, will run for 92 years beginning in July 2008. JPMorgan Chase plans to build a 40-story, 1.3 million square foot skyscraper on the property.

JPMorgan Chase (JPMC) accessed existing economic development funds such as the World Trade Center Job Creation & Retention Grant Program, which was created to stimulate the redevelopment of downtown. The company will receive up to $20 million when it reaches full employment in Lower Manhattan. By being the first employer to commit to the World Trade Center site, JPMC also accessed the previously created and funded World Trade Center Rent Reduction Program.

[infamousaesop]

Under the agreement, JPMorgan Chase will pay the Port Authority $290 million for the development rights for Site 5. The lease for the site, which is subject to approval by the Port Authority’s Board of Commissioners at their meeting next week, will run for 92 years beginning in July 2008. JPMorgan Chase plans to build a 40-story, 1.3 million square foot skyscraper on the property.

JPMorgan Chase (JPMC) accessed existing economic development funds such as the World Trade Center Job Creation & Retention Grant Program, which was created to stimulate the redevelopment of downtown. The company will receive up to $20 million when it reaches full employment in Lower Manhattan. By being the first employer to commit to the World Trade Center site, JPMC also accessed the previously created and funded World Trade Center Rent Reduction Program.

[maddog3n]

Infamous-Thanks for the article.  Interesting about JPMorgan.  Because of the delays that have been talked about in the other article, is this interesting or isn't it.

[OneShotKi11]

Does anyone know about the new camera recording laws in NEW YORK. Did those laws take into effect yet? If so does that mean we wont find much video of the fire on the internet!!!

[infamousaesop]

?? what delays

[maddog3n]

They did put them into effect but then there was a massive uproar from the main media. Bloomberg has since backed off it and the last thing I heard was that they were going to rethink it.  But they did go into effect.  As far as the law itself the main points were that you could only film for 30 minutes, you had to have $1m insurance policy, and I think you had to have a permit from the city.  Not sure about the last one but that is what come to mind right now.  As far a video about this recent fire, well who knows.

[maddog3n]

They were searching for body parts in the 2005 (700 body parts in three months were recovered), asbestos remediation, and they had a labor strike.