911 From the Top

[Ron Schmaul]

Kobi Alexander was one of the owners and developers of Odigo software which allowed Israelis to communicate instantly on 9/11. It was via the "buddy system" on Odigo software, which allows one to communicate to a large group of people that share a trait, such as the Hebrew language, that thousands of Israelis were warned not to go to the twin towers on 9/11.

Thousands of Jews failed to show up for work at the WTC on 911, that is circumstantial evidence of massive involvement. Israeli citizens were identified as investors in massive share trading in stocks that fell in value after 911. September 11, 2001: Employees of Odigo, Inc. of Israel, one of the world's largest instant messaging companies, with offices in New York, receives threat warnings of an imminent attack on the WTC less than two hours before the first plane hits the WTC. Law enforcement authorities have gone silent about any investigation of this. Odigo Research and Development offices in Israel are located in the city of Herzliyya, a suburb of Tel Aviv, which is the same location as the Institute for Counter Terrorism which breaks early details of insider trading on 9-11. [Ha'aretz, 9/26/2001; Reuters, June 19, 2002]

Christopher Bollyn. Odigo, like many Israeli software companies, is based and has its Research and Development (R&D) center in Herzliya, Israel, the small town north of Tel Aviv, which happens to be where Mossad's headquarters are located. Shortly after 9/11, Odigo was taken over by Comverse Technology, another Israeli company. Within a year, five executives from Comverse were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from "insider trading." www.rumormillnews.com
 
Evidence that Israelis had been forewarned several hours before the attacks surfaced at an Israeli instant messaging service, known as Odigo. This story, clear evidence of Israeli prior knowledge, was reported only briefly in the U.S. media - and quickly forgotten. At least two Israel-based employees of Odigo received warnings of an imminent attack in New York City more than two hours before the first plane hit the WTC. Odigo had its U.S. headquarters two blocks from the WTC. The Odigo employees, however, did not pass the warning on to the authorities in New York City, a move that could have saved thousands of lives.
 
Odigo has a feature called People Finder that allows users to seek out and contact others based on certain demographics, such as Israeli nationality. Two weeks after 9/11, Alex Diamandis, Odigo's vice president, reportedly said, "It was possible that the attack warning was broadcast to other Odigo members, but the company has not received reports of other recipients of the message." The Internet address of the sender was given to the FBI, and two months later it was reported that the FBI was still investigating the matter. There have been no media reports since. rense.com

OK so there is a serious problem with the semantics in this story… The thrust of the piece is that Bush was lying when he said he saw the first impact… That was never the consensus that serious researchers arrived at… The more believable version is that Bush saw the first impact all right, because his people were streaming live footage of the event right into the school.

This present claim attempts to pull the wool over the eyes of the US public… Like if Bush was fibbing when he said he saw the first impact, the claim that his staff were streaming live footage is no longer an issue, and misleads the public with a story about a president that lies for no reason. Else why would he lie about seeing an aircraft smash into the WTC.

THE PRESIDENT:  I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on.  And I used to fly, myself, and I said, well, there's one terrible pilot.  I said, it must have been a horrible accident. But I was whisked off there, I didn't have much time to think about it.  And I was sitting in the classroom, and Andy Card, my Chief of Staff, who is sitting over here, walked in and said, "A second plane has hit the tower, America is under attack." PP

The problem is the first strike was not broadcast live by the networks so his people must have had a live link.

This story and the two missing planes from Pennsylvania and the Pentagon, add up to a scenario that can bring the whole plot down faster than Building 7.

The shots of the Pentagon taken immediately after impact and before the damaged facade had collapsed, showed a hole about the size of a suburban garage... No sign of a plane at all. And no trace of a plane in Pennsylvania, despite continuing assertion that The Happy Schmooligans blasted Flight 93 out of the sky, plenty of paper strewn across the landscape and burn marks in the trees, but no plane.

Flight 93 was reported by 9 News landing in Cleveland Hopkins Airport & confirmed by U.S. Airlines... "A Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing Tuesday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport due to concerns that it may have a bomb aboard, said Mayor Michael R. White. White said the plane had been moved to a secure area of the airport, and was evacuated. United identified the plane as Flight 93. The airline did not say how many people were aboard the flight."

[whitelocust]

Flight 93 was reported by 9 News landing in Cleveland Hopkins Airport & confirmed by U.S. Airlines... "A Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing Tuesday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport due to concerns that it may have a bomb aboard, said Mayor Michael R. White. White said the plane had been moved to a secure area of the airport, and was evacuated. United identified the plane as Flight 93. The airline did not say how many people were aboard the flight."

source on this?

[Amishism]

Source on any of it.

Its no stretch that Jews were warned or had knowledge of something going down that day, seemingly all intel agencies knew about it and was sending warnings to the whitehouse. Even the FBI was warning about it. Not because they were watching alqaeda, but knew al-ciada.

This doesn't mean any of these people were involved, just that they were aware and warning.

As for Chris Bollyn, he needs to produce medical & criminal records to prove he was even beaten by feds, which happened coincidently just before he went on CNN (after seperating from AFP) puffing up his name which nobody had ever even heard of before then. It was this CNN show that made an issue of Jews and 9-11 in MSM. This is the point when the alternative press and the internet went abuzz with the Jews did 9-11. This is how the CIA could influence the alternative press. I don't know how many donations Bollyn took in for his alleged injuries and legal bills but probably many of those donors would like to see the medical records.

CNN Interviews Christopher Bollyn
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bB6nDk_FEBs

[Amishism]

Hal Turner: FBI Agent Provocateur?
Henry See
SOTT.net
January 15, 2008

Dave Neiwert at Orincus recently wrote a blog post describing how rabid, right-wing talk show host Hal Turner was outed as an FBI agent when hackers found incriminating emails on his server. Neiwert cites a report from the SPLC that says in part:

On Jan. 1, unidentified hackers electronically confronted Turner in the forum of his website for "The Hal Turner Show." After a heated exchange, they told Turner that they had successfully hacked into his server and found correspondence with an FBI agent who is apparently Turner’s handler. Then they posted an alleged July 7 E-mail to the agent in which Turner hands over a message from someone who sent in a death threat against Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.). "Once again," Turner writes to his handler, "my fierce rhetoric has served to flush out a possible crazy." In what is allegedly a portion of another E-mail, Turner discusses the money he is paid.

On Thursday, as the E-mail exchange was heatedly discussed on a major neo-Nazi website, Turner suddenly announced he was quitting political work. "I hereby separate from the ‘pro-White’ movement," he said, adding that he was ending his radio show immediately. "I will no longer involve myself in any aspect of it."

Paid agents who spread disinformation is a topic we return to over and over again at SOTT and on our forum. Why is it that people are so gullible, that they refuse to admit the possibility? The use of provocateurs goes back thousands of years. Why should we think it is any different today, or that it only happens elsewhere?

Hal Turner’s job was to be a right-winger nutzoid agent, but there are such agents on the left, in the so-called 911 Truth Movement, and in every other channel by which information is broadcast and transmitted. Disinformation is pervasive. It is the water in which we swim every day. The water is filled with sharks who play whatever tune they are are paid to play.

The only way to see it is to be aware that it exists and to THINK! We have to use our critical capacities and understand the system in which we live. The system is controlled by powerful forces that act through corporations, government, intelligence agencies, police forces and the courts, the education system, and on and on. Why would they leave alone alternative news sources, sources that could potentially work to unite normal people against the pathocrats?

They would never leave such channels free. On the contrary, they would spend large sums of money to control them to ensure that the only news that people receive keeps them within the bounds that are permissible in the pathocracy. Opposition must be controlled. People need to have the appearance of free speech and of a certain choice in where they get their information. That is just part of the capitalist marketplace that promotes the illusion that it is your choice in what you consume that makes you free. News and information are no different. But that means that even news and information that appears to be oppositional must really be held within certain acceptable boundaries.

That is why critical thought and analysis are so important. Nothing can be accepted at face value. Just because someone claims that they are in opposition doesn’t mean that he or she really is. If they are not exposed, they become Pied Pipers leading their followers deeper and deeper into the swamp. Anger at current policies and injustices can be used and then spent to fuel pointless and even dangerous responses that accomplish nothing positive and that in fact simply make the situation worse and feed into the long-term plans of the pathocrats.

An example is what Neiwert calls "exterminationist rhetoric": the calls to violence that we hear from so many right wing talking heads. Turner may have gone far beyond what we hear from the pundits on Fox News, but he lays the groundwork and pushes the boundaries.

As part of his job, Hal Turner took positions were extreme, calling for people to take the law in their own hands up to the point of murder. He was being paid out of your pocket books and wallets. However, his rhetoric was just a bit more extreme than the nonsense one hears from Michelle Malkin or Anne Coulter when they also speak of violence against liberals, even if they claim they are joking and shrug it off. Turner paves the way, pushing the limit on what is permissible. It is a dangerous game.

And he was doing it as his job for the FBI.

Moreover, it only takes a few agents like Turner to influence others, to set an agenda, to set an example on what is permissible and what is not in terms of "exterminationist rhetoric". Such extremes can be used to justify paramoralisms from the mouths of the likes of Malkin and Coulter.

When psychopaths and other deviants assume the major roles in society, we all become infected by their conscienceless world view. It permeates every corner of life from politics to professional sport, from entertainment to the education system. To pull oneself out of it is hard work. It means being continually aware.

[Ron Schmaul]

http://www.rense.com/general56/flfight.htm, for the Flight 93 Story.

"...Its no stretch that Jews were warned or had knowledge of something going down that day, seemingly all intel agencies knew about it and was sending warnings to the whitehouse. Even the FBI was warning about it. Not because they were watching alqaeda, but knew al-ciada.

This doesn't mean any of these people were involved, just that they were aware and warning."

American Securities and Exchange Commission says Israeli citizens, sold short a list of 38 stocks that could reasonably be expected to fall in value as a result of the pending attacks. These speculators operated out of the Toronto, Canada and Frankfurt, Germany, stock exchanges and their profits were specifically stated to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Christopher Bollyn.

You can rubbish Bollyn as much as you like, the way to check is to follow these leads.

Take a look at the 911 victims list…
 
http://www.september11victims.com/september11victims/victims_list.htm

Make your own mind up whether there is an imbalance, I reckon there is which would validate the claim that up to four thousand Jews stayed away.

Maybe Jews who knew the attacks were going to happen, sat up late in Melbourne and Sydney, on the evening of September 11 2001, to watch the show which began in those cities sometime around 0002 AEST Sept 12. Maybe it was common knowledge in some schools, picture teenage entrepreneurs sitting up late, stuffing their guts with pizza, watching their investments mature.
 
Frank Lowy of Westfield and Australian Soccer fame was mixed up with Silverstein re the proposed development of the WTC site of which Silverstein was lessor, was there a gay and hearty at his Australian house on the evening of 911, bearing in mind the show began here sometime around 0002 AEST September 12. Witness testimony that says Silverstein was warned by phone not to show up, and he passed that warning on to his daughter.

So when are these leads going to be investigated.

Google Katherine Schweitzer, then ask why I, a non Jew, am the only person on the planet Earth who is calling for prosecution of the Government officials and Police, who have neglected their responsibility to investigate her murder.

[Amishism]

American Securities and Exchange Commission says Israeli citizens, sold short a list of 38 stocks that could reasonably be expected to fall in value as a result of the pending attacks. These speculators operated out of the Toronto, Canada and Frankfurt, Germany, stock exchanges and their profits were specifically stated to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Christopher Bollyn.

prove it.

There was reported short selling by CIA heads and other knights of malta. This is why all the intel agencies knew what was happening, because they are all knights of malta, not some kind of duel citizen of Israel, but Malta and the Vatican.

[Ron Schmaul]

I do not have to prove anything... All I do is present the evidence.

Sure it gets a bit heavy, so I lighten things up a bit with song.

The President saw the first strike on TV in Florida... Massive treason can be the only way that could happen.

There was no plane in Pennsylvania or at the Pentagon where photographs show the vapor trail from a cruise missile.

A missile appears to have damaged WTC's 4,5&6, and there is a missile like object streaking toward impact at 5m 50 sec in 911 The Explosive Reality video.

We talked to their private security staff, we talked to people who were there with Larry Silverstein, the lessor of the WTC on 9/11… he got a phone call telling him not to show up to work, and he called his daughter up and she never showed up either… Rudkowski Prison Planet.

Hey there Honey get rid of them blues
Daddy’s getting money you’ll be wearin’ new shoes
Turn on the telly it’ll be on the news
Stay at home today like the rest of the Jews
 
Cause today were gonna blow… Woo Woo /
Down the freakin buildings go  Woo Woo /
We collect the dough  Woo Woo /
Stay at home and watch the show… Woo Woo Woo Woodledoodledoo… Rip it up Frank
 
Hey Man you say that four thou were away
That’s a lotta bodies at the end of the day
This is the way I see it don’t wanna be crass
There’s a whole lotta Jews thatta gotta get tried.

Schweitzer murdered, I care... Do you.

[Amishism]

"Although apparently no one has claimed the money from the “put” options, questions remain about Krongard and the CIA’s involvement.

“Put” options on Morgan Stanley and Merrill Lynch, two of the World Trade Center’s most prominent occupants, also spiked in the days before 9-11. The 9-11 Investigation Committee made no attempt to pursue this highly sensitive matter. The SEC never made public who these speculators were."
www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/030907Speculator.htm
newsmax article on the short sells
www.prisonplanet.com/still_silence_from_911_stock_speculation_probe.htm

[Ron Schmaul]

"...Although apparently no one has claimed the money from the “put” options,"

Oh yes they did, despite some one and a half million dollars remaining unclaimed on the US West Coast. PP

Odigo an Israel based computer firm is identified shortly after 911 as being linked to the laundering of some hundreds of millions of dollars shortly after 911, said to be profits from massive Israeli share trading. RBN News

“...Put options on Morgan Stanley and Merrill Lynch, spiked in the days before 9-11. ...The SEC never made public who these speculators were."

Oh yes they did... American Securities and Exchange Commission says Israeli citizens, sold short a list of 38 stocks that could reasonably be expected to fall in value as a result of the pending attacks. These speculators operated out of the Toronto, Canada and Frankfurt, Germany, stock exchanges and their profits were specifically stated to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Christopher Bollyn.

Additional testimony of Israeli treachery here...

Alon Pinkas, Israel's consul general confirmed that three Israelis were killed in the 911 WTC attacks, two in the planes which crashed into the towers, and one who had been the WTC on business. UP It was via the buddy system on Odigo software, which allows one to communicate to a large group of people that share a trait, such as the Hebrew language, that thousands of Israelis were warned not to go to the twin towers on 9/11. RBN News

Odigo and Mossad are based in Herzliya north of Tel Aviv, after 9/11 Odigo was taken over by Comverse Technology, another Israeli company, within a year five executives from Comverse were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from "insider trading." Rumormillnews.

[yanaar]

source on this?

I've seen it before too... can't recall the source.  I'll look it up.

[yanaar]

United 93 lands in Cleveland:  9/11/01;  9News;  WPCO-TV in Cincinnati, Ohio;  WCPO.com;  by Liz Foreman.

PLANE LANDS IN CLEVELAND; BOMB FEARED ABOARD

"A Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing Tuesday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport due to concerns that it may have a bomb aboard, said Mayor Michael R. White.

White said that the plane had been moved to a secure area of the airport, and was evacuated.

United identified the plane as Flight 93.  The airline did not say how many people were aboard the flight...."

[jimd3100]

United 93 lands in Cleveland:  9/11/01;  9News;  WPCO-TV in Cincinnati, Ohio;  WCPO.com;  by Liz Foreman.

PLANE LANDS IN CLEVELAND; BOMB FEARED ABOARD

"A Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing Tuesday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport due to concerns that it may have a bomb aboard, said Mayor Michael R. White.

United identified the plane as Flight 93. 

Flight 93 was a 757 not a 767              flight 1989 was the 767
http://256.com/gray/thoughts/2001/20010912/delta_flight_1989_9_11/mayor_white_9_11_retraction.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_Lines_Flight_1989

[yanaar]

Flight 93 was a 757 not a 767              flight 1989 was the 767
http://256.com/gray/thoughts/2001/20010912/delta_flight_1989_9_11/mayor_white_9_11_retraction.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_Lines_Flight_1989

I re-checked the article ... says clearly boeing 767.  typo?

[jimd3100]

I re-checked the article ... says clearly boeing 767.  typo?

No-Flight 93 didn't land in Cleveland is the more likely explanation. The flights were confused. I think the Mayor has even admitted he f**ked up. Also flight 1989 is the flight that seems to be described as the pilot made the landing fearing he might be about to be hijacked.

[yanaar]

No-Flight 93 didn't land in Cleveland is the more likely explanation. The flights were confused. I think the Mayor has even admitted he f**ked up. Also flight 1989 is the flight that seems to be described as the pilot made the landing fearing he might be about to be hijacked.

I've given this some thought, and am inclined to go with the article that came out in the Cincinnati 9news.  Why?  Because it came out right on Sep 11. 

The other material came out later... when there was time to "clean-up" loose ends from their 911 botched job. (only two planes hit target with the other two having been counter-hijacked/counter-deployed by mutinous elements.)

[jimd3100]

I've given this some thought, and am inclined to go with the article that came out in the Cincinnati 9news.  Why?  Because it came out right on Sep 11. 

Yea, it came out around the time of the events themselves. You think it is at all possible that confusion and media hungry mayors might get stuff wrong? No chance of that at all?
Now you have the problem of using a Cincinnati 9 news initial report as a source when Cincinnati 9 news says the initial report was wrong. And the mayor saying he was wrong as well, I guess he is involved in 9/11 somehow. And the pilot of flight 1989 is probably involved in 9/11 since he (and everyone else) say it was that flight (a 767 btw) that made the landing.

The other material came out later... when there was time to "clean-up" loose ends from their 911 botched job. (only two planes hit target with the other two having been counter-hijacked/counter-deployed by mutinous elements.)

The other material came out later because after the event everything is later. The "botched job" of 9/11 includes Cincinnati 9 news and the Mayor? Now they are involved in 9/11? Even if you say they are only involved in the cover up that means they are involved and it just increases the number of people who can possibly whistleblow. Then you have the problem of explaining what happened in Penn and the 8 mile debis field. What plane is that from? All planted I suppose.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/shootdown.html

And I guess all the witnesses that saw a plane go into the pentagon are wrong, it was actually a missile huh? I'm starting to think I am the only person not involved in 9/11 and the coverup.

[yanaar]

Hey, jimd3100... settle down.  This is a forum... for posting differing opinions. 

[Anti_Illuminati]

United 93 lands in Cleveland:  9/11/01;  9News;  WPCO-TV in Cincinnati, Ohio;  WCPO.com;  by Liz Foreman.

PLANE LANDS IN CLEVELAND; BOMB FEARED ABOARD

"A Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing Tuesday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport due to concerns that it may have a bomb aboard, said Mayor Michael R. White.

White said that the plane had been moved to a secure area of the airport, and was evacuated.

United identified the plane as Flight 93.  The airline did not say how many people were aboard the flight...."

Here's the full article with source:

http://web.archive.org/web/20021109040132/http:/wcpo.com/specials/2001/americaattacked/news_local/story14.html

Plane Lands In Cleveland; Bomb Feared Aboard

Reported by: 9News Staff
Web produced by: Liz Foreman
9/11/01 11:43:57 AM

A Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing Tuesday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport due to concerns that it may have a bomb aboard, said Mayor Michael R. White.

White said the plane had been moved to a secure area of the airport, and was evacuated.

United identified the plane as Flight 93. The airline did say how many people were aboard the flight.

United said it was also "deeply concerned" about another flight, Flight 175, a Boeing 767, which was bound from Boston to Los Angeles.

On behalf of the airline CEO James Goodwin said: "The thoughts of everyone at United are with the passengers and crew of these flights. Our prayers are also with everyone on the ground who may have been involved.

"United is working with all the relevant authorities, including the FBI, to obtain further information on these flights," he said.