Artillery fire on Korean border coincides with Artillery Tests in the Pacific

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I don't understand why we have revolving doors of war on false pretenses and people will still go and fight. All Troops at this point are accomplices to mass murder, If you know it is an unjust war and you fight you are to blame, you are a murderer. Don't tell me how you fallow any religion if your willing to murder for money

The troops are actually slaves to a system that we perpetuate when we do not speak out. See if these words make sense (RFK never blamed the soldiers for Vietnam, he blamed our lack of courage in confronting insane foreign policies):

RFK: "Our country is in danger not just from foreign enemies. But above all from our own misguided policies. This war must be ended and in my judgement, it can be ended. And it does not involve giving up, but it does involve not continuing to follow the bankrupt policy we're following at the present time."
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Photo of an arch and bell from the War Memorial Park here in Pocheon:



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South Korea admits first strike:



S.Korea says it test-fired in area before N.Korea firing
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTOE6AM05P20101123
SEOUL | Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:27am EST

Nov 23 (Reuters) - South Korea said it was conducting regular military drills off the west coast before North Korea started firing dozens of shells, but that its firing exercises did not aim to the North. "We were conducting usual military drills and our test shots were aimed toward the west, not the north," a South Korean military official said. North Korea said on Tuesday that Seoul had initiated firing of shells, prompting it to take an instant military action.
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Well, if you keep drilling I guess you will have a war eventually.







Drill, baby,drill. [/sarc]

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It will be OK.

Our current president is a Noble PEACE Prize recipient.

He is not a war monger like the one before him.   ;) ;) ;)

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It will be OK.

Our current president is a Noble PEACE Prize recipient.

He is not a war monger like the one before him.   ;) ;) ;)

And he just gave the medal of freedom to another peace-mongerer...George HW Bush, who helped Harriman and Rockefeller blow JFK's brains out.

What could go wrong?
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Well, if you keep drilling I guess you will have a war eventually.

Drill, baby,drill. [/sarc]

If you keep going to the barbershop eventually you will probably get a haircut.

(Even if like me, you don't have very much hair to cut.)

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  Hey citizen, what's your gut feeling this time?  Escalation?  Or is more extortion by the dear leader?

  Good luck to you and your family.
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Why should the U.S. intervene in this?

 ???

Haven't they done enough evil stuff in other places already? Is there really a need for more?
Shouldn't they be taking care of business at home while the US Dollar is sinking and the country is on the verge of economic collapse?

Why go and meddle in this North Korean artillery fire?

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US condemns North Korean attack on South Korea

WASHINGTON – The White House on Tuesday condemned North Korea's artillery attack against the South Korean island of Yeonpyeong, the latest in a series of provocations that have reawakened concerns about the threat posed by the communist country and its reclusive leadership.

In a statement released before dawn, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs called on North Korea to "to halt its belligerent action and to fully abide by the terms of the armistice agreement," the 1953 pact that ended the Korean War.

North Korea fired barrages of artillery onto a South Korean island near their disputed western border Tuesday, setting buildings ablaze and killing at least two marines after warning the South to halt military drills in the area, South Korean officials said.

Gibbs said the White House "is in close and continuing contact" with the South Korean government.

"The United States is firmly committed to the defense of our ally, the Republic of Korea, and to the maintenance of regional peace and stability," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101123/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_north_korea


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It's always ominous when things heat up over there.

South Korea's president said Tuesday the country will unleash "enormous retaliation" if North Korea should attack again.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/11/23/korea-artillery-fire.html#ixzz167g3whPI
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I'll will be really glad if south korea goes in an overthrows those f**kers. I don't care if it is a NWO mind game or not. The suffering the people
are enduring over there is unimaginable. As long as the US doesn't get involed. If third parties stay out of this there will be no WW3.

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Could this all be a diversion for a False Flag attempt?  Is our west coast vulnerable?


I have a lot of jets flying over my home today--it is overcast so cannot physically see anything.  But I am in an area where there usually isn't any jet activity! 

Unless, The Bushes are up in Kennebunkport for Thanksgiving?  :-\  They do get military escorts!
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I'll will be really glad if south korea goes in an overthrows those f**kers. I don't care if it is a NWO mind game or not. The suffering the people
are enduring over there is unimaginable. As long as the US doesn't get involed. If third parties stay out of this there will be no WW3.

Yup war ALWAYS ends the suffering.  Look how the Americans have brought democracy to the Iraqis and the Panamanians, and the Vietnamese (oh they lost that one but the Agent Orange still lingers).

Nonsense
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Yup war ALWAYS ends the suffering.  Look how the Americans have brought democracy to the Iraqis and the Panamanians, and the Vietnamese (oh they lost that one but the Agent Orange still lingers).

Nonsense

I am sorry to say that Polaris is dead to rights on this one. And the only thing keeping those pieces of shit in power is the fricking DMZ and the appeasements of Billions of dollars funneled from the US federal reserve + the European central banks through front companies like Hyundai directly to those intergenerational crew of psychopaths. The concentration camps in North Korea and the suffering would bring tears to Pope Innocent (and I do not say that lightly). It is an abomination and the only thing keeping it in place is the DMZ IMO.

We need to get the F out of there and NK will collapse on itself. South Korea can then do what they wanted to do for over 50 years...re-unify the fricking peninsula while there is an ounce of humanity left north of the border!

We need to stop sending bullshit New York Philharmonic Orchestras, Bill Richardson, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore's journalists, or Bill Clinton to save them from peril! We need to let South Korea defend themselves in the face of the most ruthless regime on the planet. And the ruthlessness is to their own people. Anyone who looks at the liberation of the Nazi concentration camps as a positive sign in the face of darkness cannot help but feel something similar when the Kim nutballs are finally out of power. The only thing keeping them in power is the US "boogyman" theory.

In Iran, the people are ousting Achmadinajad (another US/CFR/NATO puppet). Hopefully, natural forces in the peninsula will allow the locals to do the right thing with Kim Jung Il and his MK Ultra offspring trained to rule with the same insanity for the Bilderberg elite.

One of the glaring differences in the wars you mention is that there was no local concern with those imperialistic ventures for elite profiteers. South and North Korea are being divided purposefully, unnaturally, and by outside forces. It could be looked at like the years prior to unification between East and West Germany. Without the continued funding of East Germany, the wall was destined to come down.

I also agree with Polaris that as long as other countries stay out, there will be no WWIII. I would even go further to say that the sooner the unnatural evil scourge is dealt with as a fuse, locally, the less power it has to be used for the neocons/MIC's agenda as a way to spark WWIII.

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Today is Tuesday, November 23rd, 2010


Ron Paul
         Breaking: Is Korean Peninsula provocation a geopolitical smokescreen? Alex covers this important and developing news story.

Guests include: Texas Congressman Ron Paul and Judge Andrew Napolitano of Fox News.

Investigative journalist Wayne Madsen talks with Alex about the situation in Korea.

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Could this all be a diversion for a False Flag attempt?  Is our west coast vulnerable?


I have a lot of jets flying over my home today--it is overcast so cannot physically see anything.  But I am in an area where there usually isn't any jet activity!  

Unless, The Bushes are up in Kennebunkport for Thanksgiving?  :-\  They do get military escorts!

King of Saudi Arabia is in town getting surgery.

There likely will not be a false flag in US while the House of Saud is present.

Just my guess, but I have been wrong before, so who knows.
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Alex is taking calls on this for the next 30 minutes until 12:30 central time when Wayne Madsen started talking about it.
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Here is some basic information concerning North Korea and the multiple opportunities to free the people which were mysteriously circumvented:


The madness of Kim Jong Il
The Observer Magazine (UK)/November 2, 2003
http://www.rickross.com/reference/nkorea/nkorea17.html

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Korean War Crisis: Brought To You By Uncle Sam

http://www.infowars.com/korean-war-crisis-brought-to-you-by-uncle-sam/
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Oldies but goodies....
North Korea - High Alert - War on the Threshold


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China Spying

Well with the naming of Leon Panetta as CIA director and Hillary CLinton as Sec. of State and the old Clinton Justice dept. crew in place, there is almost no doubt that Chinese espionage will now be emboldened once again... for your enjoyment Congressional record of the COSCO arms and Long Beach Naval shipyard sale to the the Chinese...

COSCO: A COMMUNIST CHINESE-OWNED COMPANY (House of Representatives - April 15, 1997)

The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Taylor of North Carolina). Under the Speaker's announced policy of January 7, 1997, the gentleman from California [Mr. Cunningham] is recognized for 60 minutes.

[ Cunningham , a war hero , had sold us out and ended up as the scape-goat and in jail. ]
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I believe in China, and I believe in trade, that it is hard to change a 10,000-year-old dog, and I think we need to get involved in investment with China. But currently we have one of the largest deficits, trading deficits with any other Nation with China. When we talk about trade, we need to talk about fair trade. We do not want access of Chinese-controlled government, we do not want them to slap us in the face with the threat of Taiwan. I think under Republican and Democratic administrations, Mr. Speaker, that our weak link is our State Department. I think our new successor in that department is probably the absolute best person we could have. She is tough, she is tough on negotiations, and I think she will stand up for our workers' rights over trade with China.

But it has not happened in the past. And Madeleine Albright, I think if anybody can do it in the administration, she can, and I support that, because she is tough and that is what we need for a change in our trade negotiations.

I supported NAFTA and I supported GATT, but yet our administration now and under Republican administrations in many of my colleagues' opinion has not stood up for our workers. Yes, we do need to trade with China. We do need to trade with other countries. But not when they keep slapping us in the face, and currently and in the future pose a national security threat to this country

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Cunningham resigned from the House on November 28, 2005, after pleading guilty to accepting at least $2.4 million in bribes and under reporting his income for 2004. He pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to commit bribery, mail fraud, wire fraud and tax evasion. On March 3, 2006, he received a sentence of eight years and four months in prison and an order to pay $1.8 million in restitution.[1]

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I'll will be really glad if south korea goes in an overthrows those f**kers. I don't care if it is a NWO mind game or not. The suffering the people
are enduring over there is unimaginable. As long as the US doesn't get involed. If third parties stay out of this there will be no WW3.
Oh, yes, as Americans our hearts alwasy bleed for those people over there -- so we have to go kill a few.  Liberate them again -- like Baghdad?

OK, I send you money for a rifle, if you can still get one.  I'll also send you money for a parachute.  But, I do want a receipt.

You are right, though, about one thing.  If third parties (like the U.S. and China) were to saty out of it, there would be no possibility of WWIII.

BTW, still about 30,000 of our tropps stationed here, so we do have a vested interest. And technically, we are still in command of military forces here.  So, we might want to be more circumspect and look after the safety of our own soldiers and airmen.

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Yup war ALWAYS ends the suffering.  Look how the Americans have brought democracy to the Iraqis and the Panamanians, and the Vietnamese (oh they lost that one but the Agent Orange still lingers).

Nonsense
Precisely.

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Oh, yes, as Americans our hearts alwasy bleed for those people over there -- so we have to go kill a few.  Liberate them again -- like Baghdad?

OK, I send you money for a rifle, if you can still get one.  I'll also send you money for a parachute.  But, I do want a receipt.

You are right, though, about one thing.  If third parties (like the U.S. and China) were to saty out of it, there would be no possibility of WWIII.

BTW, still about 30,000 of our tropps stationed here, so we do have a vested interest. And technically, we are still in command of military forces here.  So, we might want to be more circumspect and look after the safety of our own soldiers and airmen.

we need to get everyone home, same with Germany, Japan, Afghanistan, Iraq, and the 700 other bases in 170 other countries!
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Amen to that.  It is high time to end the empire and restore the republic.

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we need to get everyone home, same with Germany, Japan, Afghanistan, Iraq, and the 700 other bases in 170 other countries!

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we need to get everyone home, same with Germany, Japan, Afghanistan, Iraq, and the 700 other bases in 170 other countries!

I agree 1000 %

Let them deal with their own problem themselves.

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Amen to that.  It is high time to end the empire and restore the republic.

No killing, no lies or deception... and no entangling alliances. Sounds groovy to me!
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So where's Hillie?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/5894455/North-Korea-attacks-funny-lady-Hillary-Clinton.html
North Korea attacks 'funny lady' Hillary Clinton
North Korea has described the US secretary of state Hillary Clinton as unintelligent and a 'funny lady' in an unusually personal attack.

By Our Foreign Staff and Agencies in Seoul 4:00PM BST 23 Jul 2009
A foreign ministry spokesman quoted by the communist state's official news agency in Pyongyang accused Mrs Clinton of making "a spate of vulgar remarks unbecoming for her position everywhere she went since she was sworn in".

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/07/24/2010-07-24_hil_rejects_north_korea_threat_to_get_physical.html

July 24th 2010, 4:00 AM
WASHINGTON - Secretary of State Clinton rejected North Korea's threat Friday to get "physical" if the U.S. and South Korea go ahead with naval exercises this weekend.

Clinton called it "distressing when North Korea continues its threats and causes so much anxiety among its neighbors and the larger region."

The joint naval maneuvers in waters off Korea's east coast near the Demilitarized Zone will take place as planned, Clinton said.

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/11/23/waking-the-president/

Waking the President
Posted by Michael Crowley Tuesday, November 23, 2010 at 12:12 pm

Two thoughts: First, this may be the closest we've come to the infamous "3 am phone call" that Hillary Clinton warned us about during the 2008 primaries--and I see no sign that our children were unsafe because it was Obama and not Hillary who fielded it.



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A North Korea expert at Beijing's Central Party School, Zhang Liangui, told the Herald that Kim Jong-un was deliberately destabilising the environment in order to mobilise the military and consolidate his power.

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I doubt if that boy is that clever on his own.  He is being advised.  The only question is by whom.  His old man?  Others?  Inside N.K.?  Outside?

Private school twit raised in Switzerland.  I am part Swiss, but it is the land of chocolates and cuckoo clocks. (Oh yeah, it is also where his family's money is stashed.  Just in case.)

Clearly, he is getting the crash course in how to be a dictator in five easy lessons.

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I doubt if that boy is that clever on his own.  He is being advised.  The only question is by whom.  His old man?  Others?  Inside N.K.?  Outside?

Private school twit raised in Switzerland.  I am part Swiss, but it is the land of chocolates and cuckoo clocks. (Oh yeah, it is also where his family's money is stashed.  Just in case.)

Clearly, he is getting the crash course in how to be a dictator in five easy lessons.

Yep, no way in his mid-twenties. That may be the propaganda here: to scare the poor NK people into future submission by making him out to be someone you do not mess with. That's one big cult! But then again you could say the sheeple all over the world are a part of a cult, too.
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Ron Paul: Korea Conflict May Be Orchestrated Crisis To Boost Dollar
http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-korea-conflict-may-be-orchestrated-crisis-to-boost-dollar/
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Congressman Ron Paul speculated on the Alex Jones Show today that the war footing between North and South Korea could be an orchestrated crisis to boost the dollar and reverse the US economy, paralleling the RAND Corporation’s call two years ago for the United States to become embroiled in a major war as a means of preventing a double dip recession.

South Korea admitted that it fired the first shots prompting a North Korean retaliation that killed two South Korean Marines and set ablaze many homes on the Yellow Sea border island of Yeonpyeong.

Tensions are running dangerously high after North Korea’s military vowed a “merciless military strike” and South Korean President Lee Myung-bak ordered his military to strike North Korea’s missile base around its coastline artillery positions if the North made any further moves. Japan announced that it was preparing for “any eventuality” while Russia said the events represented a “colossal danger” to peace in the region.

Stock markets sank worldwide while the dollar and gold bullion rallied in response to the news.

Speaking to the Alex Jones Show, Congressman Paul said it was frightening that people in the Obama administration were advocating war as a means of escaping the economic crisis, saying that North Korea stood no chance whatsoever of successfully defeating South Korea in any conflict.

Paul speculated that the US military-industrial complex was, “Doing it deliberately, and sort of orchestrating this in order to have the military-industrial complex benefit and the dollar temporarily benefit.”

As we highlighted two years ago when the story first broke, the RAND Corporation has been aggressively lobbying the Pentagon to become embroiled in a major new war to jump-start a recovery of the US economy and boost profits for the military-industrial complex after the scaling down of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Chinese media sources reported that RAND had presented a proposal to the Pentagon that revolved around fostering a conflict with a major foreign power in order to stimulate the American economy and prevent a double dip recession.

Although at the time RAND considered North Korea on its own to be too small a target, any full scale confrontation between the Koreas would embroil the United States on the side of the South and China on the side of the North. If North Korea were to tap its arsenal of nuclear weapons, the entire international community would quickly rubber stamp a US-led military assault on the rogue nation.

Given the fact that North Korea’s nuclear belligerency has its foundations in the best efforts of people like Donald Rumsfeld and the Bush administration, through the AQ Khan weapons trading network, to provide Communist agitator Kim Jong-Il and his hereditary successor with nuclear weapons, the fact that we are now seeing tensions reach boiling point represents a huge opportunity for the US military-industrial complex to manipulate into being the massive war that they have been seeking for years.
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

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Depending on China's moves, that could be a little more "major" than they planned.