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Re: Artillery fire on Korean border coincides with Artillery Tests in the Pacific
« Reply #160 on: November 26, 2010, 07:40:41 PM »
China Warns U.S. On Naval Exercises as North Korea Promises Retaliation
http://www.infowars.com/china-warns-u-s-on-naval-exercises-as-north-korea-promises-retaliation/

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November 26, 2010

China has warned the United States against engaging in military activity on its coastline.
   
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North Korea warns of a “shower of dreadful fire” in response to the joint U.S.-South Korean exercises.    
   

“We oppose any military act by any party conducted in China’s exclusive economic zone without approval,” China’s Foreign Ministry replied in response to a question about the inclusion of a U.S. Aircraft carrier strike group participating in the joint exercise.

The exclusive economic zone is a maritime zone up to 200 nautical miles from a country’s coast.

It was reported today that Obama would be speaking with his Chinese counterpart Hu Jintao in coming days. China has refused to condemn North Korea’s attack.

The Chinese statement arrives ahead of U.S.-South Korean naval exercises, according to Reuters. Earlier in the week, the Pentagon sent the USS George Washington and four other Navy ships to the Yellow Sea after North Korea shelled South Korean soldiers and civilians in response to South Korean military exercises.

In a statement from the U.S. Navy’s Seventh Fleet, the military exercises are described as a measure to show the United States’ “commitment to regional stability through deterrence.” Joint military exercises with the South Koreans begin on Sunday. North Korea has promised “waves of retaliation” if provoked.

Asian experts and political commentators warn the provocative military exercises near the North Korean and Chinese borders may result in war on the Korean Peninsula. North and South Korea have engaged in heightened saber-rattling since the incident earlier in the week.

On Friday, North Korea engaged in artillery drills within sight of the island bombed last week. The attack killed two soldiers and two civilians. Gen. Walter Sharp, the U.S. commander in South Korea, was on the island touring the damage at the time. “None of the latest rounds hit the South’s territory, and U.S. military officials said Sharp did not even hear the concussions, though residents on other parts of the island panicked and ran back to the air raid shelters where they huddled earlier in the week as white smoke rose from North Korean territory,” reports the Associated Press.

“The situation on the Korean peninsula is inching closer to the brink of war,” a report issued by the North’s official Korean Central News Agency said. Pyongyang’s military “precisely aimed and hit the enemy artillery base” on the island as punishment for South Korean military drills, said a North Korean official, who also warned of a “shower of dreadful fire” in response to the joint U.S.-South Korean exercises. “Gone are the days when verbal warnings are served only.”

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North Korea has the largest artillery force in the world. It maintains 80,000 special forces and is believed to have some 13,000 artillery pieces deployed along the border.

In South Korea, the situation has resulted in political chaos.

Following the shelling of Yeonpyeong Island, South Korean president Lee Myung-bak accepted the resignation of his defense minister and ordered more troops and advanced weaponry to the maritime border with North Korea. “We should not ease our sense of crisis in preparation for the possibility of another provocation by North Korea,” spokesman Hong Sang-pyo said, quoting the South Korean president. “A provocation like this can recur any time.” Myung-bak appointed his security adviser Lee Hee-Won as his new defense minister.

“The South Korean media is baying for blood (or at least air strikes), the South Korean defense minister has fallen on his sword, and extra troops have been posted on the outlying islands,” writes Peter Foster for the Telegraph.

“If the North Koreans continue to act in this provocative way, it’s fair to ask the question, where does that all end in terms of South Korea’s ability to simply continue to turn the other cheek,” said Australian Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd. “This question goes to the heart of the political and security order of the world, [and] it’s important, I believe, for China to step up to the plate,” said Rudd after talking to the U.S. secretary of state, Hillary Clinton.

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“The pressing task now is to put the situation under control and prevent a recurrence of similar incidents,” said Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi today after talking with Clinton by phone. Yang Jiechi also spoke with the South Korean foreign minister and the North Korean ambassador to China.
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Re: Artillery fire on Korean border coincides with Artillery Tests in the Pacific
« Reply #161 on: November 26, 2010, 09:06:25 PM »
U.S.-South Korean Naval Drill Aimed Only at North Korea, Pentagon Assures China

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/26/china-raises-concern-plan-hold-joint-military-exercises-south-korea/#ixzz16Rbwcwmv


Responding to China's first official protest over plans by the U.S. and South Korea to hold joint military exercises, the Pentagon assured the communist country Friday that the naval drill is aimed only at North Korea, Reuters reported.

The Pentagon also said that the U.S. military has routinely operated in waters off the Korean peninsula "for years," Reuters reported.

cont. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/26/china-raises-concern-plan-hold-joint-military-exercises-south-korea/
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Re: Artillery fire on Korean border coincides with Artillery Tests in the Pacific
« Reply #162 on: November 26, 2010, 11:14:20 PM »
U.S.-South Korean Naval Drill Aimed Only at North Korea, Pentagon Assures China

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/26/china-raises-concern-plan-hold-joint-military-exercises-south-korea/#ixzz16Rbwcwmv


Responding to China's first official protest over plans by the U.S. and South Korea to hold joint military exercises, the Pentagon assured the communist country Friday that the naval drill is aimed only at North Korea, Reuters reported.

The Pentagon also said that the U.S. military has routinely operated in waters off the Korean peninsula "for years," Reuters reported.

cont. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/26/china-raises-concern-plan-hold-joint-military-exercises-south-korea/

That right here, is like "telling the enemy what you are doing".
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Re: Artillery fire on Korean border coincides with Artillery Tests in the Pacific
« Reply #163 on: November 27, 2010, 02:58:50 PM »

North Korea Accuses South of Using Human Shields

By MARTIN FACKLER
Published: November 27, 2010

SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea accused South Korea on Saturday of using civilians as human shields around military bases on an island that the North hit with an artillery attack last week. The accusation is apparently an effort to redirect South Korean outrage over the barrage, which killed two civilian construction workers and two marines.

The North’s state-run Korean Central News Agency also issued new warnings about its response to planned joint United States-South Korea naval exercises in the Yellow Sea off North Korea, which will include an American aircraft carrier.

“If the U.S. brings its carrier to the West Sea of Korea at last, no one can predict the ensuing consequences,” the report said, using the Korean name for the Yellow Sea.

The drills, which are to begin Sunday, have angered both North Korea and its protector, China, stirring intense speculation in the South Korean news media of whether the North will respond violently.

On Saturday, South Korea’s prime minister and other dignitaries attended a large funeral for the two South Korean marines who were killed in the attack on Yeonpyeong Island. The commander of South Korea’s marines, Lt. Gen. Yoo Nak-joon, vowed to avenge the deaths a “thousandfold.”

“We will put our feelings of rage and animosity in our bones and take our revenge on North Korea,” he said.

South Koreans have also lashed out at President Lee Myung-bak for what many here see as the military’s failure to make more than a token response to Tuesday’s attack. While the North fired some 180 artillery shells during its hourlong fusillade, Yeonpyeong Island’s marine garrison responded with only 80 shells, according to the local media.

On Thursday, President Lee announced changes in the military’s rules of engagement to make it easier for South Korea to strike back with greater force, especially if civilians are threatened.

On Saturday, at least two protests were staged in Seoul that criticized both North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-il, for the attack and Mr. Lee for his response.

The K.C.N.A. report said South Korea should be held responsible for the civilian deaths because it had used civilians as human shields around its artillery batteries. The South “is now working hard to dramatize the ‘civilian casualties’ as part of its propaganda campaign,” the report said.

The construction workers who died were painting buildings on a marine base when it was struck by North Korean artillery rounds, according to their co-workers. Yeonpyeong Island is dotted with concrete gun emplacements and fortified bases but also has a small fishing town on it that was populated before the 1950-53 Korean War.

The bombardment destroyed several parts of the town, leveling homes and sending panicked townspeople fleeing into bomb shelters, residents said.

It was the first attack on a civilian area since the war, and it enraged the South Koreans far more than previous provocations by the North, including its nuclear weapons tests and the sinking in March of a South Korean warship that killed 46 sailors. Despite the findings of an international investigation, North Korea denies responsibility for the sinking of the ship, the Cheonan.

The North has said that Tuesday’s attack was carried out in response to South Korean artillery drills earlier that day on the island, which sits within sight of the North Korean mainland. On the morning of the attack, North Korea warned South Korea not to conduct the drills, which would involve activity in disputed waters claimed by both Koreas.

Citing those warnings, North Korea said it had made “superhuman efforts to prevent the clash at the last moment.” It also offered an uncharacteristic show of remorse, calling the civilian deaths “very regrettable.”

The comments were apparently an attempt to present the North’s view of events to the South Korean public, which has reacted to Tuesday’s attack with uncharacteristic vehemence toward the North.

While South Koreans seemed to respond to past provocations with an air of resignation, this time there have been loud calls for stronger military retaliation or a permanent end to all aid to the North. Much of that aid was cut off after the sinking of the Cheonan, but last month North Korea asked the South for food and other assistance after deadly floods.

A version of this article appeared in print on November 28, 2010, on page A14 of the New York edition.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/28/world/asia/28korea.html?_r=1&ref=world



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Re: Artillery fire on Korean border coincides with Artillery Tests in the Pacific
« Reply #164 on: November 27, 2010, 03:37:54 PM »
This is a glimpse of what it is like inside North Korea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6ixGYzbLz0&feature=player_embedded


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Re: Artillery fire on Korean border coincides with Artillery Tests in the Pacific
« Reply #165 on: November 27, 2010, 03:48:54 PM »
This is a glimpse of what it is like inside North Korea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6ixGYzbLz0&feature=player_embedded


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I've seen a few documentaries on NK and I must say even with the highly controlled and limited access the film crews were given they paint a very dismal and extremely frightening view of life there. The NWO loves NK, they see it as a "laboratory" to test just how much abuse a population will take and how many generations you need to totally brain wash a whole countries population. Up to now the answers to those question are there is no limit to how much abuse they will take. and 3 generations.


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Re: Artillery fire on Korean border coincides with Artillery Tests in the Pacific
« Reply #166 on: November 29, 2010, 02:48:26 AM »

George Washington Strike Group Begins Exercise with Republic of Korea
Story Number: NNS101128-01       
Release Date: 11/28/2010 7:07:00 AM
   

By By Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Cheryl Callahan

Waters West of Korean Peninsula (NNS) -- The George Washington Carrier Strike Group (GWCSG) entered the waters west of the Korean peninsula to participate in a combined military exercise with the Republic of Korea (ROK) on Nov. 28.

The exercise is part of the series announced at the 2 + 2 meetings in July and is scheduled to run until Dec. 1.

"While this exercise, which is defensive in nature, has been planned for some time, it underscores the importance of the ROK-U.S. alliance and our collective commitment to regional security and stability," said Rear Adm. Dan Cloyd, Commander, Task Force 70.

The purpose of the four-day exercise is to enhance the readiness and interoperability of ROK and U.S. forces during routine operations in international waters and airspace. Both militaries have conducted similar exercises together in recent months on both sides of the peninsula.

The exercise will include more than 7,000 personnel, 11 ships and a variety of aircraft to include F-18 Super Hornets, F-16C Fighting Falcons, A-10C Thunderbolt II, F-15Ks and KF-16s.

The ships involved include: the Nimitz-class nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS George Washington (CVN 73), with embarked Carrier Air Wing Five (CVW-5); the guided-missile cruiser USS Cowpens (CG 63); the guided-missile destroyers USS Lassen (DDG 82), USS Stethem (DDG 63), and USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62); and several ships and aircraft from the ROK.

The two nations will conduct air defense and surface warfare readiness training, communications and data link drills and subject matter expert exchanges during the course of the four-day exercise.


For more news from Commander, U.S. 7th Fleet, visit www.navy.mil/local/c7f/.

http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=57421


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Re: Artillery fire on Korean border coincides with Artillery Tests in the Pacific
« Reply #167 on: November 29, 2010, 07:30:34 AM »
I don't understand why we have revolving doors of war on false pretenses and people will still go and fight. All Troops at this point are accomplices to mass murder, If you know it is an unjust war and you fight you are to blame, you are a murderer. Don't tell me how you fallow any religion if your willing to murder for money


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Re: Artillery fire on Korean border coincides with Artillery Tests in the Pacific
« Reply #168 on: December 03, 2010, 11:03:51 AM »
dig, thanks for all the information about the Vietnamese taking out Pol Pot.  Very informative.

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Re: Artillery fire on Korean border coincides with Artillery Tests in the Pacific
« Reply #169 on: December 03, 2010, 12:23:15 PM »
dig, thanks for all the information about the Vietnamese taking out Pol Pot.  Very informative.

They never tell people that we were fighting the RUSSIANS! Where did the ZERO GDP North Vietnam get all the ordinance for years? TANKS and SAM sites? millions of AK's?
Oh yeah 50 thousand dead and now there our pals.... 1984 over and over

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Carriers in combat the air war at sea - Vietnam

Rolling Thunder - Cambodian supply depots off limits - SOVIET SA-2 SAM sites shot down 115 american planes

"We were restrained to carrying out a campaign which seemed designed NOT to win" because RUSSIAN technicians might be killed.

McNamara did not allow pilots to attack any installation where MIG's were based.
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Born 1914 in Greenville, NC; Public Schools, Goldboro, NC.; USNA '35, Retired, Durham, NC '69.

Flight Training, Pensacola '37-'38. USS Enterprise, Scouting Squadron 6.  '42 deployed to Pacific as XO (VC-11) flying F4F (Wildcats).  
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April 29, '44, he led a flight of 8 Hellcats on a pre-dawn fighter sweep over Truk atoll; at dawn sighted a flight of aout 36 Japanese Zeroes flying at 10,000 ft in column of V's; first pass his flight flamed 8; then, exercising perfect discipline "Holly" Hills (4 kills) led his division to "high cover" where they accounted for seven of the enemy.  
Cdr. Outlaw shot down 5 and 1 probable, fellow Ace, Dick May got 3 and Outlaw's wingman 4.  
Total for this brief action was 22 victories and 6 probables.  

The action took place in less than ten minutes and was declared by COMNAVAIRPAC to be "a perfect example of air combat and air discipline."

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