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« on: April 14, 2009, 08:38:03 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2009, 08:41:06 AM »

wow, good find.
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2009, 08:44:46 AM »

i still remember 2 years ago when TVA ( a french canadian network ) said that thoses cloud were natural and were  rare but getting a lots more common now because of global warming. They had to change the story not so long after when they recieved all the complaint and that  Environement canada called and ask them to change what they say and  ask to say the thrut.
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2009, 08:46:29 AM »

Gr8 find, just added it to my favs, for archive and future use...
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2009, 09:17:14 AM »

good find!
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2009, 10:04:58 AM »

Thx for the post. Tis a good vid I could show to people.
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2009, 10:52:37 AM »

i am doing a mass email and sending it to everyone! Cool
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2009, 06:32:29 PM »


It is the best MSM report I have seen, but it is not new , and its not a national news station.
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2009, 02:48:30 PM »

GOOD JOB HOMIE!!
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2009, 06:48:18 PM »

As people who follow my posts know, I am somebody who 'believes' that the Western military industrial complex and its' many satellites and subsidiaries DO have more than a passive interest in fulfilling the criterion which enables their 'command & control' system HAARP to operate at maximum potential.

Meaning, I would bet on the government dispersing barium into the atmosphere as described in the patent for the man who created HAARP in its current form, Bernard Eastland. Read this particular patent here: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/4686605/fulltext.html
"It has also been proposed to release large clouds of barium in the magnetosphere so that photoionization will increase the cold plasma density, thereby producing electron precipitation through enhanced whistler-mode interactions."


If you want a short video on the potential functions of HAARP, watch these:

FREQUENCIES OF DESTRUCTION 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxRnkfvO_EU

FREQUENCIES OF DESTRUCTION 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWTWTHunPkk

I recommend to EVERYBODY to watch the complete 15 parts of 'CHEMA-KILL 2.0' to see how 'CHEMTRAILS' dovetail perfectly into the HAARP program, and many other things as well.

Find it all here:

http://unhypnotize.com/chemtrails-project-cloverleaf/6264-chema-kill-movie-extended-version-2-0-1-15-a.html

That said, I wanted to re-post this very thorough 'anti-chemtrail' argument made by an individual on the 'Contrail Science' website.
The person makes some good points, and they need to be accounted for.

FROM CONTRAIL SCIENCE:

"boenoid

For what it is worth, I am a Boeing engineer with 20 years of experience in the aerospace industry.

* There are no special tanks anywhere on our airplanes to hold chemicals to be sprayed out.
* There are no spray nozzles on the airplanes either, unless you count the emergency fuel dump nozzles on the widebody jets.
* This can be readily ascertained by simply looking through an airplane before the interior wall panels are installed. Here is a list of all the tanks which are on a jetliner:
** Fuel, potable water, waste water, engine fire suppressant (Halon + other stuff), cargo fire suppressant (just Halon), hydraulic reservoirs. On the new airplanes you will also see tank-like devices which generate nitrogen to inert the fuel tanks.
* Further, there is no room for such stuff to get installed. You would have to carry TONS of liquid to make spray trails independent of the exhaust condensation, and the only liquid we carry tons of is Jet-A fuel.
* In Everett Washington, the Seattle flight museum has a restoration center where you can go see dismantled airplanes being readied for display in the museum. The work is done almost entirely by volunteers. I assume other flight museums have similar workshops. If you can find one where you live, go to the restoration center and see the planes up close. There’s no where to hide a sprayer system where it wouldn’t be seen by maintenance crews.

* The Boeing final assembly plant is open for tours by the public, and VIPs from all over the world can get close-up tours. The airplanes are built in a staggered sequence, so that two airplanes side-by-side are usually being made for two different airlines.
* The majority of Boeing’s production is sold overseas. In fact, the company is the nation’s largest exporter.
* Thus, if a domestic airplane was modified for “chemtrail production” in the factory, it would be as easy as pie for a foreign VIP to walk over and say, “What are these fancy tanks and sprayers on the American plane which aren’t on my airplane?”
* If any airplane WAS modified for chemtrail to add chemtrail sprayers, the thousands of Boeing employees would have to know. I don’t work in Fuels, and I can identify every tank and tube in the wing area.
* If thousands of Boeing employees knew, then so would thousands of supplier employees who go through our factories, thousands of airlines employees who go through our factories, and all the FAA and NTSB and DOT people as well. Also, our airplanes and factories are inspected by the Aviation Authorities of foreign countries (like EASA from Europe) and they would also need to be in on the conspiracy.
* There would simply be too many people involved to prevent this from leaking out. If the chem trail sprayers were being added in the factory, the secret would be out.

* So what if the chemtrail sprayers were being added by an aftermarket shop?
* You’re back to the same problem. It takes hundreds of people to design, build, and install a major modification on a jetliner, and the mod shops are just as open as Boeing is. You wouldn’t be able to keep the secret.
* Further, most airlines have their planes maintained by outside suppliers, who would have to be in on the conspiracy. Those who do their own maintenance do the work in open bays that again would make it easy to view the modification.
* And you have the same problem that you need to get thousands of maintenance people, suppliers, and certification authorities in on the conspiracy. It would have leaked by now. All it takes is one guy with a cell phone camera, and the world would know.

* So what if they somehow managed to do all this stuff anyway? Now you have to realize that somebody, somewhere, has to be pumping TONS of chemtrail chemicals into these mysterious hidden tanks on the airplanes. You would need a fill valve, and a distribution system, and special trucks carrying the chemicals disguised as fuel trucks. That would take thousands more people to be in on the conspiracy.
* One giveaway would be two fuel trucks pulling up to the same jetliner – one with the fuel and one with the chemicals. Remember, we’re talking about tons of liquid here.
* It just doesn’t work – you would need independent chemical fill ports, and somebody, somewhere, would notice.
* And while we’re talking about it, remember that every jetliner pilot has to check the weight of the plane and calculate a talk off runway length and other factors. The charts are the same for every jetliner of a given type, but if there really were chemtrail sprayers, then the charts for those airplanes would have to be different to account for the tons of chemicals that might be on the airplane.

* So, I really don’t think there is any way to hide the sprayers on jetliners. Too many people would have to know, and it would be too easy to detect by passerby.

* So, what if the chemtrail chemicals are in the jet fuel? This wouldn’t require ANY visible modifications to the airplanes, and far fewer people would have to know about the conspiracy.
* This would be harder to refute, BUT, you would have to discard the “on and off” contrails as being caused by pilots turning sprayers on and off. All the fuel on the plane came from the same fuel trucks and the same fuel tanks, so the supposed chemtrail would have to be continuous from takeoff until landing. I think that would have been noticed by now.

* So to my mind, that pretty much eliminates the possibility of using jetliners to create chemtrails.
* Which means you have to be using military jets, and thousands of them, flying unnoticed back and forth on normal commercial routes. So now you have to have all the air traffic controllers in on the conspiracy as well.
* And the planes will again need special tanks for the chemicals, and special fill ports, and special sprayers, and special tanker trucks filling the chemical tanks on the planes, special non-military suppliers delivering the stuff, and you’re right back to the same issue of needing to keep thousands of people from talking.

Bottom line:
You would need a special delivery system on the airplanes.
You would need a special fill system.
You would need independent tanker trucks.
You would need a separate supply chain.
You would need thousands and thousands of people to hold their tongues, and never have even ONE person leave any incriminating evidence in a safe deposit box to be discovered after their deaths.

It ain’t happening."

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http://contrailscience.com/wwii-contrails/


I propose, that even if 99% of 'persistent contrails' are completely normal, & there are only 1% that corresponds to a 'conspiratorial' agenda then it needs to be flushed out all the same.

It's too powerful to ignore, considering the other types of evidence present, empirical and circumstantial.

Stay Sovereign America!
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2009, 07:12:40 PM »

'this video has been removed due to exposing the US gov't a tyrannical bunch of psychopathic murderers'  Embarrassed
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2009, 07:21:02 PM »



Anon-PatriotUSA:

I don't know about how factual your info is, my friend, but the mods may not like you spamming it like this.   Undecided
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2011, 01:21:10 PM »


As people who follow my posts know, I am somebody who 'believes' that the Western military industrial complex and its' many satellites and subsidiaries DO have more than a passive interest in fulfilling the criterion which enables their 'command & control' system HAARP to operate at maximum potential.

Meaning, I would bet on the government dispersing barium into the atmosphere as described in the patent for the man who created HAARP in its current form, Bernard Eastland. Read this particular patent here: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/4686605/fulltext.html
"It has also been proposed to release large clouds of barium in the magnetosphere so that photoionization will increase the cold plasma density, thereby producing electron precipitation through enhanced whistler-mode interactions."


If you want a short video on the potential functions of HAARP, watch these:

FREQUENCIES OF DESTRUCTION 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxRnkfvO_EU

FREQUENCIES OF DESTRUCTION 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWTWTHunPkk

I recommend to EVERYBODY to watch the complete 15 parts of 'CHEMA-KILL 2.0' to see how 'CHEMTRAILS' dovetail perfectly into the HAARP program, and many other things as well.

Find it all here:

http://unhypnotize.com/chemtrails-project-cloverleaf/6264-chema-kill-movie-extended-version-2-0-1-15-a.html

That said, I wanted to re-post this very thorough 'anti-chemtrail' argument made by an individual on the 'Contrail Science' website.
The person makes some good points, and they need to be accounted for.

FROM CONTRAIL SCIENCE:

"boenoid

For what it is worth, I am a Boeing engineer with 20 years of experience in the aerospace industry.

* There are no special tanks anywhere on our airplanes to hold chemicals to be sprayed out.
* There are no spray nozzles on the airplanes either, unless you count the emergency fuel dump nozzles on the widebody jets.
* This can be readily ascertained by simply looking through an airplane before the interior wall panels are installed. Here is a list of all the tanks which are on a jetliner:
** Fuel, potable water, waste water, engine fire suppressant (Halon + other stuff), cargo fire suppressant (just Halon), hydraulic reservoirs. On the new airplanes you will also see tank-like devices which generate nitrogen to inert the fuel tanks.
* Further, there is no room for such stuff to get installed. You would have to carry TONS of liquid to make spray trails independent of the exhaust condensation, and the only liquid we carry tons of is Jet-A fuel.
* In Everett Washington, the Seattle flight museum has a restoration center where you can go see dismantled airplanes being readied for display in the museum. The work is done almost entirely by volunteers. I assume other flight museums have similar workshops. If you can find one where you live, go to the restoration center and see the planes up close. There’s no where to hide a sprayer system where it wouldn’t be seen by maintenance crews.

* The Boeing final assembly plant is open for tours by the public, and VIPs from all over the world can get close-up tours. The airplanes are built in a staggered sequence, so that two airplanes side-by-side are usually being made for two different airlines.
* The majority of Boeing’s production is sold overseas. In fact, the company is the nation’s largest exporter.
* Thus, if a domestic airplane was modified for “chemtrail production” in the factory, it would be as easy as pie for a foreign VIP to walk over and say, “What are these fancy tanks and sprayers on the American plane which aren’t on my airplane?”
* If any airplane WAS modified for chemtrail to add chemtrail sprayers, the thousands of Boeing employees would have to know. I don’t work in Fuels, and I can identify every tank and tube in the wing area.
* If thousands of Boeing employees knew, then so would thousands of supplier employees who go through our factories, thousands of airlines employees who go through our factories, and all the FAA and NTSB and DOT people as well. Also, our airplanes and factories are inspected by the Aviation Authorities of foreign countries (like EASA from Europe) and they would also need to be in on the conspiracy.
* There would simply be too many people involved to prevent this from leaking out. If the chem trail sprayers were being added in the factory, the secret would be out.

* So what if the chemtrail sprayers were being added by an aftermarket shop?
* You’re back to the same problem. It takes hundreds of people to design, build, and install a major modification on a jetliner, and the mod shops are just as open as Boeing is. You wouldn’t be able to keep the secret.
* Further, most airlines have their planes maintained by outside suppliers, who would have to be in on the conspiracy. Those who do their own maintenance do the work in open bays that again would make it easy to view the modification.
* And you have the same problem that you need to get thousands of maintenance people, suppliers, and certification authorities in on the conspiracy. It would have leaked by now. All it takes is one guy with a cell phone camera, and the world would know.

* So what if they somehow managed to do all this stuff anyway? Now you have to realize that somebody, somewhere, has to be pumping TONS of chemtrail chemicals into these mysterious hidden tanks on the airplanes. You would need a fill valve, and a distribution system, and special trucks carrying the chemicals disguised as fuel trucks. That would take thousands more people to be in on the conspiracy.
* One giveaway would be two fuel trucks pulling up to the same jetliner – one with the fuel and one with the chemicals. Remember, we’re talking about tons of liquid here.
* It just doesn’t work – you would need independent chemical fill ports, and somebody, somewhere, would notice.
* And while we’re talking about it, remember that every jetliner pilot has to check the weight of the plane and calculate a talk off runway length and other factors. The charts are the same for every jetliner of a given type, but if there really were chemtrail sprayers, then the charts for those airplanes would have to be different to account for the tons of chemicals that might be on the airplane.

* So, I really don’t think there is any way to hide the sprayers on jetliners. Too many people would have to know, and it would be too easy to detect by passerby.

* So, what if the chemtrail chemicals are in the jet fuel? This wouldn’t require ANY visible modifications to the airplanes, and far fewer people would have to know about the conspiracy.
* This would be harder to refute, BUT, you would have to discard the “on and off” contrails as being caused by pilots turning sprayers on and off. All the fuel on the plane came from the same fuel trucks and the same fuel tanks, so the supposed chemtrail would have to be continuous from takeoff until landing. I think that would have been noticed by now.

* So to my mind, that pretty much eliminates the possibility of using jetliners to create chemtrails.
* Which means you have to be using military jets, and thousands of them, flying unnoticed back and forth on normal commercial routes. So now you have to have all the air traffic controllers in on the conspiracy as well.
* And the planes will again need special tanks for the chemicals, and special fill ports, and special sprayers, and special tanker trucks filling the chemical tanks on the planes, special non-military suppliers delivering the stuff, and you’re right back to the same issue of needing to keep thousands of people from talking.

Bottom line:
You would need a special delivery system on the airplanes.
You would need a special fill system.
You would need independent tanker trucks.
You would need a separate supply chain.
You would need thousands and thousands of people to hold their tongues, and never have even ONE person leave any incriminating evidence in a safe deposit box to be discovered after their deaths.

It ain’t happening."

-
http://contrailscience.com/wwii-contrails/


I propose, that even if 99% of 'persistent contrails' are completely normal, & there are only 1% that corresponds to a 'conspiratorial' agenda then it needs to be flushed out all the same.

It's too powerful to ignore, considering the other types of evidence present, empirical and circumstantial.

Stay Sovereign America!

Excellent point. The fact the self called expert, isn`t aware of the "how" and/or "where" it is done, does not make it impossible to achieve. Besides, chemtrailing is just a part of the geo-engineering process and, I`m sure, you won`t find the tools to make it up, right of the (civilian) shelves.
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