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Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« on: November 06, 2010, 04:25:57 AM »
The best one yet!!!

Wall Street: Conspiracy theory with Jesse Ventura season-2 episode-3 part-1of6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh5T019483E

The last segment was so epic, that I don't want to even to spill the beans and tell you what it's about.

I know the show is sensationalistic, but holy s**t, it's just way too epic.

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Re: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2010, 04:31:32 AM »
Sensationalistic, yes, but this was a good one. I can't wait for next week's show.

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Re: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2010, 04:50:03 AM »
Goldman Sachs is making a Movie about Itself

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   Article about the upcoming movie
   http://www.businessinsider.com/goldman-sachs-is-making-a-movie-about-itself-2010-7#ixzz140R1bP45

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Re: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2010, 02:27:16 PM »
'Serious manipulation' of gold, silver markets
Price of precious metals allegedly forced down for profit
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=153953
Posted: May 16, 2010 By Jerome R. Corsi © 2010 WorldNetDaily

NEW YORK – A London-based commodities trader claims a major New York bank is conducting serious manipulation of the silver and gold futures markets. The practice has continued even after federal regulators have been warned of the impropriety, Andrew Maguire, a metals trader at the London Bullion Market Association, told WND. Last November, Maguire brought allegations before the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission, or CFTC, in Washington that gold and silver traders at JPMorgan Chase have conspired to manipulate global precious metals markets. He charged the manipulation amounts to hundreds of millions of dollars, if not billions, in institutional trading profit for the bank and personal profit for the traders.

"It's like robbing a bank," Maguire told WND. America's wealth is being intentionally killed off. Find out how to protect your own right now! Maguire charged that JPMorgan Chase gold and silver traders have coordinated massive purchases of "short contracts" betting that the price of gold or silver will go down. The purchases, he said, are part of a strategy aimed at forcing the price of gold and silver to drop dramatically at the expense of holders of "long positions" owning gold or silver. "This is a very small community that engages in metals trading – only a handful of traders at major institutions like JPMorgan Chase," Maguire said. "The traders involved in market manipulation trigger their signals in advance so that local traders like me can jump on board to create a major market movement," he said.

WND has obtained a series of e-mails Maguire exchanged with Eliud Ramirez, the head of CFTC's enforcement unit. A copy was sent to CFTC Commissioner Bart Chilton. Maguire specified his allegations in the e-mail and predicted major market moves he believed would occur as a result of trader manipulations instigated at JPMorgan Chase. In a Feb. 3 e-mail, Maguire predicted to the CFTC that traders were ready to initiate "a wave of short selling" designed to reduce dramatically the price of gold and of silver. An examination of the price charts for gold and silver show both metals suffered price declines after Maquire's Feb. 3 e-mail, exactly as he predicted.

As the market manipulation was in progress, Maguire sent additional e-mails to Ramirez at the CFTC. "It is undoubtedly the concentrated short who has 'walked silver down' since Wednesday, putting large blocks in the way of bids," Maguire e-mailed Ramirez Feb. 5. "This is clear manipulation as the long holders who have been liquidated are matched by new short selling as open interest is rising during the decline." Then, again later that day, Maguire e-mailed Ramirez: "A final e-mail to confirm that the silver manipulation was a great success and played out EXACTLY to plan as predicted yesterday. How would this be possible if the silver market was not in full control of the parties we discussed in our phone interview?"

In the e-mail, Maguire rebuked the CFTC: "It is common knowledge here in London among the metals traders that it is JPM's (JPMorgan Chase's) intent to flush out and cover as many shorts as possible prior to any discussion in March about position limits. I feel sorry for all those not in this loop. A serious amount of money was made and lost today and in my opinion as a result of the CFTC's allowing by your own definition an illegal concentrated and manipulative position to occur." Bill Murphy, chairman of the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee, published Maguire's e-mails on his organization's website, charging, "It would not be possible to predict such a market move unless the market was manipulated." WND asked JPMorgan Chase to reply to Maguire's charges. "We have no knowledge of who Andrew Maguire is," Brian Marchiony, a spokesman for JPMorgan Chase told WND. "We have no comment on Maguire's charges." A CFTC spokesman told WND, "We do not comment on investigations."

Signal to 'get on board'

How does Macguire allege the insider market manipulation in the metals futures markets can be recognized? "When suddenly, in relatively thin trading on gold or silver, you see out of the blue several hundreds, if not 1,500 contracts suddenly pop up on the sell-side, then you know that is a very concentrated position holder, not an amalgamation of orders," he explained. "It's a signal to everybody to get on board on the sell-side because this is not moving a cent further on the long-side," he said. Maguire insisted the coordinated placement of a large number of sell-side orders could only be designed to move the price of gold or silver down. The traders coordinating the market movement would benefit from having shorted the metal at the expense of its owners, who held long positions or were purchasing futures contracts betting the price of the metal would go up.

"All the traders then had better jump on board because you'd be crazy to go against a major coordinated market move like this," he said. "It's like playing a fish as the traders manipulating the market push the price of gold or silver down and down and down." Maguire said he explained to the CFTC that "the footprints of the coordinated trading were easy to read." He sent to the CFTC computer "screen shots" he believe proved JPMorgan was a concentrated market manipulator engaging in illegal activity designed to depress the price of gold or silver for profit. If Maguire has shared the information with the CFTC, why did he decide to go public explaining his accusations to WND and to Murphy at GATA for publication? "I want the CFTC to catch these guys in the act," Maguire answered, "and I called the CFTC to alert them to market manipulations as they were happening. But now I'm concerned that the CFTC is just sitting on the information and doing nothing to investigate my allegations or bring charges." Maguire charged the profit made by metals market manipulators was "in the hundreds of millions, if not billions" and that the end result was the money was "being stolen from private investors who have no idea whatsoever what is going on behind the scenes."  On March 25, Murphy disclosed Maguire's charges in a public hearing before the CFTC, a clip of which can be viewed on YouTube.

Attempted murder?

Maguire and his wife were involved in a bizarre car accident in London, the New York Post reported March 29. Maguire told WND he reluctantly has come to believe the car accident was an attempt on his life. "We got hit in the side at full acceleration and tried to corral the cars in a gas station, including the guy who hit us with a commercial vehicle," Maguire explained. The assailant then got in his car and accelerated, hitting a number of cars as he escaped from the gas station, making the event into a hit-and-run situation.  "The police told us the assailant was known to them and even that they arrested him," Maguire said. "But recently the police won't say anything, and I haven't been able to learn anything about the assailant."
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Re: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2010, 02:27:38 PM »
Andrew Maguire finally exposes systemic fraud by CFTC & JPMorgan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLxoeLqQMlw
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Re: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2010, 02:28:04 PM »
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

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Re: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2010, 02:29:13 PM »
Friday, April 2, 2010
Bob Chapman on Andrew McGuire Assassination attempt

ANDREW MCGUIRE who recently disclosed some very dangerous allegation about the COMEX manipulating the silver (and precious metals market) , he was apparently victim of a hit and run car accident , some say it was an assassination attempt but we probably will never know the full truth ...Bob Chapman who was the first to denounce market rigging as far back as 1968 ,
Bob Chapman says that nothing was done about and nothing will be done about it cause it is the United states government that is behind it and the United states government is beyond corruption , it is a classical criminal enterprise...

http://bobchapman.blogspot.com/2010/04/bob-chapman-on-andrew-mcguire.html
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Re: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2010, 02:31:48 PM »
Angry Trader: JPMorgan And HSBC Used "Secret Signals" To Manipulate The Silver Market, And They Bragged About It
http://www.businessinsider.com/angry-investor-jpmorgan-and-hsbc-used-secret-signals-to-manipulate-the-silver-market-and-bragged-about-it-2010-10
Courtney Comstock | Oct. 28, 2010, 9:18 AM

Trader Peter Laskaris alleges that HSBC and JPmorgan manipulated the price of silver, causing him to lose money.

In his lawsuit against the two banks, Laskaris describes an elaborate plot with "diverse means" involving both lawful and unlawful acts committed by both JPMorgan and HSBC.

One sign this lawsuit is weird is that it doesn't separate what JPMorgan did from what HSBC did. Laskaris says they did almost exactly the same things, including:

-Holding large positions in silver futures and silver options
-Making large trades at key times
-Making large "spoof" orders that are placed and then canceled after the order has influenced the price
-Colluding, or communicating or signaling their trades to each other (JPM to HSBC and vice versa)

So according to the lawsuit, they were in it together.

A few interesting points:

The lawsuit says JPMorgan traders "bragged about their large trades which successfully moved silver prices."
It says that both banks cleaned up their behavior after conspiracy theories became public and the CFTC started investigating the claims, around March 2010. Soon after this time, he says, the price of silver futures rose.

It says JPMorgan and HSBC "calculated to conceal" their fraudulent activity through "secret signals, meetings and/or conversations."
Laskaris says he lost money because of the activity.

Here's the lawsuit, via Zerohedge:
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Re: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2010, 02:33:20 PM »
Andrew Maguire: the “King” Interview, Part I
http://www.bullionbullscanada.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10441:andrew-maguire-the-king-interview-part-i&catid=49:silver-commentary&Itemid=130
Written by Jeff Nielson
Saturday, 10 April 2010 13:33


By now, any and every reasonably knowledgeable precious metals investor knows about the emergence of a bona fide “whistle-blower” - with respect to the rampant fraud and market-manipulation which takes place every day in the precious metals market. His name is Andrew Maguire, and his first public interview was with the now-famous “King World News” program.

Because there is so much to say on the many issues that emerged from that interview, I'm going to take the time to do my own summary of that content – so that when I refer to this material in future commentaries there will be an easy reference point for readers to return to for clarification, or to refresh your memories.

To begin with, Mr. Maguire is an independent metals-trader, meaning that he was not working as a “foot soldier” for the anti-gold cabal. However, he was in regular, personal contact with those individuals, and (according to Maguire) they were never the least bit hesitant to brag about their “exploits” in the gold and silver markets – especially JP Morgan's precious metals 'assassins'. When you own the (so-called) “regulator” (the CFTC), it does tend to create an attitude of arrogance.

Mr. Maguire was joined in the “King” interview by Adrian Douglas, director of GATA – who provided additional context for the subject matter, as well as his own observations of the significance of Mr. Maguire's revelations.

Prior to the commencement of yet another round of farcical, CFTC “hearings” (a strange word, for a group of individuals doing their best to “hear” nothing), Mr. Maguire approached the CFTC as a volunteer “whistle-blower”, especially with respect to JP Morgan's rampant manipulation of the silver market, which he described as even more severe than the manipulation occurring in the gold market.

There are two reasons we should not be surprised that Mr. Maguire identified silver-manipulation as being more egregious. First, the silver market is much smaller (making price-fixing easier); and second, as I have often discussed, the silver-shortage is much more acute than the gold-shortage – due to the fact that most of the world's silver has literally been “consumed” in an ever-growing number of industrial applications.

Mr. Maguire provided the CFTC with two anecdotal examples of silver-manipulation – in exquisite detail. One example was the brutal take-down of silver (and gold) which occurred immediately after the Wall Street-contrived “crisis” of 2008. At the same time that global demand for gold and silver was spiking to the highest level in decades, the price of the two metals was plummeting straight downward.

Andrew Maguire also observed that because the silver market is so much smaller, he likened it to a “window” into the gold market – where the greater size (and complexity) makes identifying manipulation more problematic. Thus, in presenting evidence of silver-manipulation, he considered it representative of what was taking place in both markets.

He presented the information of the 2008 manipulation to Bart Chilton, the former chairman of the CFTC (and still a current member), back in November of 2009. At that point Chilton set up a formal “interview”. At that time, Mr. Maguire “walked him through” that market-rigging in a methodical manner – explaining the “mechanics” of metals-manipulation.

Mr. Maguire followed that up with a second anecdote of manipulation. This time, he detailed a take-down of the silver market to the CFTC as it was happening. He notified the CFTC on February 3rd that the next “scheduled” take-down of the silver market was to occur on February 5th. He followed that up with a subsequent message on the 5th, after the “successful” move in the silver market – reiterating to the CFTC that the take-down of the silver market on February 5th followed the “script” which he gave the CFTC on February 3rd (perfectly).

How did the CFTC respond to the detailed evidence of a bona fide “whistle-blower”, who literally handed them a play-by-play account of manipulation of the silver market, as it was occurring? Naturally, they refused to allow him to appear at their hearings.

As an aside, Mr. Maguire made a commitment to the CFTC (while he was providing them with evidence) not to publicize his communications with the CFTC or his allegations of market-manipulation – to give the CFTC plenty of time to act on this evidence without being embarrassed or distracted with a lot of media publicity. This is why the precious metals community is only learning about Mr. Maguire's brave act of conscience now. In other words, he acted “in good faith” every step of the way, while the CFTC merely lived-down to its past reputation.

One of Mr. Maguire's most-notable revelations on the “King” interview was his efforts to 'connect the dots' for this regulator, because in the words of Mr. Maguire, it was clear that the CFTC didn't even “know what to look for”. Andrew Maguire confessed to being “amazed” by their lack of comprehension – when, in fact, he should have expected nothing else.

When precious metals commentators (such as myself) allege that acts of manipulation are occurring in markets (and are thus branded “conspiracy nuts”), we would never allege that all of the “players” (and regulators) in a particular market are “corrupt”. Simply, it is impossible to maintain any “conspiracy” with a large group of individuals. Thus, only the few directors of any organization/entity can or should be included in any 'cabal'. The majority must always be enthusiastic-but-ignorant zealots – who can be counted on to do what they are told and to not understand why (or to ask any questions).

For the Februrary Take-Down, Mr. Maguire provided the CFTC with two scenarios – since the manipulation was to take place immediately after the Bureau of Labor Statistics released it January jobs-report (see "Largest U.S. Jobs-Lie Yet"). He specifically described the “bull trap” which these market-manipulators engaged in. If the jobs-news was worse than expected (and thus “bullish” for bullion), JP Morgan's silver-assassins wouldn't jump into the market immediately after the news. Instead, they would wait for the market to rise naturally (and have new “longs” enter the market) – and then they would stomp on the silver market, whip-sawing all the new-longs.

Regular readers will not be surprised by either the sadistic nature of the silver-assassins, nor by the news that manipulations are scheduled to coincide with the BLS “monthly, non-farm payrolls” number. In a sea of fraudulent U.S. “statistics”, the BLS jobs-lies still manage to stand-out as being the most-outrageous fiction – and thus the desire of the banksters to time their “attack” on the precious metals market to coincide with their efforts to “spin” more BLS fabrications.

Mr. Maguire even gave the CFTC the “target price” (before it happened) for the February Take-Down: $15/oz. Including intra-day lows, he was within pennies in his “prediction”. Given this body of evidence, this would leave a reasonable person to decide between two, possible conclusions: either Andrew Macguire was a knowledgeable “whistle-blower”, providing the CFTC with a “live” account of a crime (before/during/after) or Andrew Maguire is a psychic. In refusing to allow Mr. Maguire to testify, we can only assume that the CFTC did not view Andrew Maguire as an insider and expert, providing the “play-by-play” of a crime as it was happening. Yet, to the best of my knowledge, CFTC Chairman (and former Goldman Sachs employee) Gary Gensler has not credited him with being a psychic, either.

At this point, in Mr. Maguire's own words, he became very “angry”, because he felt “betrayed” by the CFTC. Wanting to hook-up with someone who wanted to hear the truth – and would help to publicize it, he immediately went to GATA, and (as they say) the rest is “history”. It was at this point in the broadcast, that the show's host Eric King, made what would prove to be a very ironic (or foreboding?) comment: that he (Maguire) had “put a target on his back” by choosing to become a whistle-blower. The day after GATA gave an account of Mr. Maguire's allegations at the CFTC hearings, Andrew and his wife were slightly injured in a car “accident” - after being hit by a hit-and-run driver.

Naturally, Mr. Maguire's evidence provides complete vindication for GATA (who has fought to expose precious metals manipulation – in general – for many years), and Ted Butler, who has been equally tireless in his own efforts, which were specifically aimed at exposing silver-manipulation. Indeed, Adrian Douglas voiced a criticism which the mainstream skeptics had constantly leveled at GATA: if there really was a “conspiracy” to manipulate precious metals, where was the “whistle-blower” which ultimately always (?) surfaces to expose such deeds?

Now that question is reversed: with a legitimate, veteran “whistle-blower” emerging who can (and has) described the “mechanics” of precious metals manipulation in exquisite detail and with the mountains of empirical/circumstantial evidence which point toward rampant manipulation, how can any reasonable person continue to close their minds to such evidence?

In “Part II”, I will review the second half of this interview, since there was simply too much material to cover in one piece.
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Re: Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2010, 02:45:30 PM »
Loved it, the end was so awesome ... although I don't like Matt Taibbi, the Rolling Stones journalist who was in it. He was in Nat Geo's hitpiece slagging off 9/11 truth.
The truth will set you free
From global tyranny
Wake up American slobs
9/11 was an inside job
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OntBg2qwk_M&fmt=35

Century of Manipulation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mujq-C1UAw0

... Here's Tom with the weather!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CCIcjIngLA

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Re: Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2010, 02:47:44 PM »
Whistleblower Exposes JP Morgan’s Silver Manipulation Scheme
http://www.prisonplanet.com/whistleblower-exposes-jp-morgans-silver-manipulation-scheme.html
Tyler Durden
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March 26, 2010

Earlier today the CFTC held a sham hearing in which, among other thing, the organization discussed position limits in PM speculation, because, you know, it’s the mom and pop speculators that destroy the precious metal market (not JP Morgan or the New York Fed mind you). The hearing could not have come at a more opportune time. GATA has just broken a major story, in which a London metals trader-slash-whistleblower exposes JP Morgan’s silver price suppression/manipulation scheme. At this point none of this should be at all shocking, and the only thing that matters is when CFTC’s ex-Goldmanite Gary Gensler will be fired for allowing hundreds of billions of dollars to be sucked out of the PM market on behalf of such major market manipulating entities as JP Morgan and the New York Federal Reserve, for whom it transacts. Don’t worry – the answer to that rhetorical question is “never”, as it is the administration’s goal to make all the millionaires among the bulge bracket firms billionaires, via legalized theft from honest investors. Furthermore, if indeed the CFTC is complicit in these manipulative events, as GATA suggest, we hope our objective mainstream media readers enjoin GATA in seeking justice for this criminal breach of proper regulatory enforcement.

From GATA:

Additional Statement by Bill Murphy, Chairman
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee

to the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission
Washington, D.C., March 25, 2010

On March 23, 2010, GATA Director Adrian Douglas was contacted by a whistleblower by the name of Andrew Maguire. Maguire is a metals trader in London. He has been told first-hand by traders working for JPMorganChase that JPMorganChase manipulates the precious metals markets, and they have bragged to how they make money doing so.

In November 2009 Maguire contacted the CFTC enforcement division to report this criminal activity. He described in detail the way JPMorgan Chase signals to the market its intention to take down the precious metals. Traders recognize these signals and make money shorting the metals alongside JPM. Maguire explained how there are routine market manipulations at the time of option expiry, non-farm payroll data releases, and COMEX contract rollover, as well as ad-hoc events.

On February 3 Maguire gave two days’ warning by e-mail to Eliud Ramirez, a senior investigator for the CFTC’s Enforcement Division, that the precious metals would be attacked upon the release of the non-farm payroll data on February 5. On February 5, as market events played out exactly as predicted, further e-mails were sent to Ramirez while the manipulation was in progress.

It would not be possible to predict such a market move unless the market was manipulated.



In an e-mail on February 5 Maguire wrote: “It is common knowledge here in London among the metals traders that it is JPM’s intent to flush out and cover as many shorts as possible prior to any discussion in March about position limits. I feel sorry for all those not in this loop. A serious amount of money was made and lost today and in my opinion as a result of the CFTC’s allowing by your own definition an illegal concentrated and manipulative position to continue.”

Expiry of the COMEX April call options is tomorrow, March 26. There was large open interest in strikes from $1,100 to $1,150 in gold. As always happens month after month, HSBC and JPM sell short in large quantities to overwhelm all bids and make unsuspecting option holders lose their money. As predicted by GATA, the manipulation started on March 19, when gold was trading at $1,126. Last night it traded at $1,085.

This is how much the gold cartel fears the CFTC’s enforcement division. They thumb their noses at you because in more than a decade of complaints and 18 months of a silver market manipulation investigation nothing has been done to stop them. And this is why JPM’s cocky and arrogant traders in London are able to brag that they manipulate the market.

This is an outrage and we are making available to the press the e-mails from Maguire wherein he warns of a manipulative event.

Additionally Maguire informed us that he has tape recordings of his telephone communications with the CFTC, which we are taking the appropriate legal steps to acquire.

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From: Andrew Maguire
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:51 PM
To: Ramirez, Eliud [CFTC]
Cc: Chilton, Bart [CFTC]
Subject: Silver today

Dear Mr. Ramirez:

I thought you might be interested in looking into the silver trading today. It was a good example of how a single seller, when they hold such a concentrated position in the very small silver market, can instigate a selloff at will.

These events trade to a regular pattern and we see orchestrated selling occur 100% of the time at options expiry, contract rollover, non-farm payrolls (no matter if the news is bullish or bearish), and in a lesser way at the daily silver fix. I have attached a small presentation to illustrate some of these events. I have included gold, as the same traders to a lesser extent hold a controlling position there too.

Please ignore the last few slides as they were part of a training session I was holding for new traders.

I brought to your attention during our meeting how we traders look for the “signals” they (JPMorgan) send just prior to a big move. I saw the first signals early in Asia in thin volume. As traders we profited from this information but that is not the point as I do not like to operate in a rigged market and what is in reality a crime in progress.

As an example, if you look at the trades just before the pit open today you will see around 1,500 contracts sell all at once where the bids were tiny by comparison in the fives and tens. This has the immediate effect of gaining $2,500 per contract on the short positions against the long holders, who lost that in moments and likely were stopped out. Perhaps look for yourselves into who was behind the trades at that time and note that within that 10-minute period 2,800 contracts hit all the bids to overcome them. This is hardly how a normal trader gets the best price when selling a commodity. Note silver instigated a rapid move lower in both precious metals.

This kind of trading can occur only when a market is being controlled by a single trading entity.

I have a lot of captured data illustrating just about every price takedown since JPMorgan took over the Bear Stearns short silver position.

I am sure you are in a better position to look into the exact details.

It is my wish just to bring more information to your attention to assist you in putting a stop to this criminal activity.

Kind regards,
Andrew Maguire

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From: Ramirez, Eliud [CFTC]
To: Andrew Maguire
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:04 PM
Subject: RE: Silver today

Mr. Maguire,

Thank you for this communication, and for taking the time to furnish the slides.

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From: Andrew Maguire
To: Ramirez, Eliud [CFTC]
Cc: BChilton [CFTC]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: Silver today

Dear Mr. Ramirez,

Thanks for your response.

Thought it may be helpful to your investigation if I gave you the heads up for a manipulative event signaled for Friday, 5th Feb. The non-farm payrolls number will be announced at 8.30 ET. There will be one of two scenarios occurring, and both will result in silver (and gold) being taken down with a wave of short selling designed to take out obvious support levels and trip stops below. While I will no doubt be able to profit from this upcoming trade, it is an example of just how easy it is to manipulate a market if a concentrated position is allowed by a very small group of traders.

I sent you a slide of a couple of past examples of just how this will play out.

Scenario 1. The news is bad (employment is worse). This will have a bullish effect on gold and silver as the U.S. dollar weakens and the precious metals draw bids, spiking them higher. This will be sold into within a very short time (1-5 mins) with thousands of new short contracts being added, overcoming any new bids and spiking the precious metals down hard, targeting key technical support levels.

Scenario 2. The news is good (employment is better than expected). This will result in a massive short position being instigated almost immediately with no move up. This will not initially be liquidation of long positions but will result in stops being triggered, again targeting key support levels.

Both scenarios will spell an attempt by the two main short holders to illegally drive the market down and reap very large profits. Locals such as myself will be “invited” on board, which will further add downward pressure.

The question I would expect you might ask is: Who is behind the sudden selling and is it the entity/entities holding a concentrated position? How is it possible for me to know what will occur days before it will happen?

Only if a market is manipulated could this possibly occur.

I would ask you watch the “market depth” live as this event occurs and tag who instigates the move. This would surly help you to pose questions to the parties involved.

This kind of “not-for-profit selling” will end badly and risks the integrity of the COMEX and OTC markets.

I am aware that physical buyers in large size are awaiting this event to scoop up as much “discounted” gold and silver as possible. These are sophisticated entities, mainly foreign, who know how to play the short sellers and turn this paper gold into real delivered physical.

Given that the OTC market (where a lot of the selling occurs) runs on a fractional reserve basis and is not backed up by 1-1 physical gold, this leveraged short selling, where ownership of each ounce of gold has multi claims, poses a very large risk.

I leave this with you, but if you need anything from me that might help you in your investigation I would be pleased to help.

Kind regards,
Andrew T. Maguire

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From: Andrew Maguire
To: Ramirez, Eliud [CFTC]
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 2:11 PM
Subject: Fw: Silver today

If you get this in a timely manner, with silver at 15.330 post data, I would suggest you look at who is adding short contracts in the silver contract while gold still rises after NFP data. It is undoubtedly the concentrated short who has “walked silver down” since Wednesday, putting large blocks in the way of bids. This is clear manipulation as the long holders who have been liquidated are matched by new short selling as open interest is rising during the decline.

There should be no reason for this to be occurring other than controlling silver’s rise. There is an intent to drive silver through the 15 level stops before buying them back after flushing out the long holders.

Regards,
Andrew

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From: Andrew Maguire
To: Ramirez, Eliud [CFTC]
Cc: BChilton [CFTC]; GGensler [CFTC]
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 3:37 PM
Subject: Fw: Silver today

A final e-mail to confirm that the silver manipulation was a great success and played out EXACTLY to plan as predicted yesterday. How would this be possible if the silver market was not in the full control of the parties we discussed in our phone interview? I have honored my commitment not to publicize our discussions.

I hope you took note of how and who added the short sales (I certainly have a copy) and I am certain you will find it is the same concentrated shorts who have been in full control since JPM took over the Bear Stearns position.

It is common knowledge here in London among the metals traders that it is JPM’s intent to flush out and cover as many shorts as possible prior to any discussion in March about position limits. I feel sorry for all those not in this loop. A serious amount of money was made and lost today and in my opinion as a result of the CFTC’s allowing by your own definition an illegal concentrated and manipulative position to continue.

Bart, you made reference to it at the energy meeting. Even if the level is in dispute, what is not disputed is that it exists. Surely some discussions should have taken place between the parties by now. Obviously they feel they can act with impunity.

If I can compile the data, then the CFTC should be able to too.

I would think this is an embarrassment to you as regulators.

Hoping to get your acknowledgement.

Kind regards,
Andrew T. Maguire

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From: Andrew Maguire
To: Ramirez, Eliud [CFTC]
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:47 PM
Subject: Fw: Silver today

Just logging off here in London. Final note.

Now that gold is undergoing short covering, please look at market depth right now in silver and evidence the large selling blocks in a thin market being put in the way of silver regaining the technical 15 level, which would cause a short covering rally and new longs being instigated. This is resulting in the gold-silver ratio being stretched to ridiculous levels.

I hope this day has given you an example of how silver is “managed” and gives you something more to work with.

If this was long manipulation in, say, the energy market, the shoe would be on the other foot, I suspect.

Have a good weekend.

Andrew

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From: Andrew Maguire
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 8:24 AM
To: Ramirez, Eliud [CFTC]
Cc: Gensler, Gary; Chilton, Bart [CFTC]
Subject: Fw: Silver today

Dear Mr. Ramirez,

I hadn’t received any acknowledgement from you regarding the series of e-mails sent by me last week warning you of the planned market manipulation that would occur in silver and gold a full two days prior to the non-farm payrolls data release.

My objective was to give you something in advance to watch, log, and follow up in your market manipulation investigation.

You will note that the huge footprints left by the two concentrated large shorts were obvious and easily identifiable. You have the data.

The signals I identified ahead of the intended short selling event were clear.

The “live” action I sent you 41 minutes after the trigger event predicting the next imminent move also played out within minutes and exactly as I outlined.

Surely you must at least be somewhat mystified that a market move could be forecast with such accuracy if it was free trading.

All you have to do is identify the large seller and if it is the concentrated short shown in the bank participation report, bring them to task for market manipulation.

I have honored my commitment to assist you and keep any information we discuss private,however if you are going to ignore my information I will deem that commitment to have expired.

All I ask is that you acknowledge receipt of my information. The rest I leave in your good hands.

Respectfully yours,

Andrew T. Maguire

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From: Ramirez, Eliud
To: Andrew Maguire
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: Silver today

Good afternoon, Mr. Maguire,

I have received and reviewed your email communications. Thank you so very much for your observations.
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Re: Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2010, 02:50:26 PM »
I usually joke around like "Who is Jesse not going to confront this week" with a buddy of mine while watching the episode, because of how much they usually hype up the final segment and he virtually always ends up saying something and walking away.  I don't blame him, I wouldn't cross those posts at Area 51 either, but I wouldn't act like I was going to at the same time.

He definitely delivered this week though.  I wonder if the truTV guys literally turned up the heat in the room because those guys started sweatin pretty heavily.  Jesse didn't look sweaty though so maybe it was just them.

I wonder how they got those guys all i nthe same room without knowing what's up.  Did they just send vague dinner invitations to a bunch of people?  :D

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Re: Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2010, 07:49:49 PM »
The TORRENT to download Season 02 Episode 3 - Wall Street is located here -->> http://alivetorrents.com/torrent/8981403/conspiracy-theory-with-jesse-ventura-s02e03-wall-street-hdtv-xvi

Also... I love this episode.  It lays everything out in a manner most can understand and its a vitally important subject that affects everybody's lives regardless of whether or not one understands 9/11 is an inside job.
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2010, 08:28:11 PM »
Has anybody heard any reaction from lamestreamers on these shows?
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Re: Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2010, 08:39:24 PM »
Great episode!

BTW, Check out the AT&T U-verse Program Listing entry for this episode....


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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2010, 09:17:24 PM »
Great episode!

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...and the improbability of these typically obscure theories of what crashed the entire world economy making their way on to TruTV speaks volumes.

I had to add the bold to "theories" because, along with the words you italicized, the American sheeple have been trained by their handlers to instantly disregard anything described as "theory" as unequivocally false.
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Re: Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2010, 11:20:32 PM »
I can't wait for the episode dealing with the two Oswald's. Seriously, there were two men who looked nearly identical whose lives were merged together by the CIA probably when both were kids. Google in - John Armstrong: Harvey and Lee. His book pretty much nails it to the wall. Ventura and company will be dealing with it in an upcoming show.

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« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2010, 12:41:15 AM »
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Re: Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2010, 03:36:39 AM »
I also enjoyed the episode very much. One aspect that they didn't mention when talking about the bundling of bad loans into investment packages is how many times they were leveraged out. We hear Alex mention the number "1.5 quadrillion dollars". They must have multiplied these out hundreds and thousands of times to get to that number.

Also, I don't like that the show never told us who these scumbags at the dinner party were. Were these actual traders, or were they actors portraying traders?

Just asking...

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« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2010, 09:28:30 AM »
Great episode!

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YUP!   ;) http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=190717.msg1131757#msg1131757
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Re: Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2010, 12:28:42 PM »

Also, I don't like that the show never told us who these scumbags at the dinner party were. Were these actual traders, or were they actors portraying traders?

Just asking...

The second time I watched this episode I was wondering the same thing.

I think it was genuine though.
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Re: Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2010, 02:53:07 PM »
Season two has been great and loved this epiosde...but I thought they said that there was suppose to be another 9/11 episode. What happened to that or was I mistaken?

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« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2010, 03:01:52 PM »
Season two has been great and loved this epiosde...but I thought they said that there was suppose to be another 9/11 episode. What happened to that or was I mistaken?

Season 2 Episodes
"Plum Island"
Premiered Fri, October 15 at 10P
Jesse storms Congress to find out if the government is conducting dangerous experiments at the Plum Island Animal Research Center off the coast of Long Island. The center, which began as a bio-warfare lab run by former Nazi scientists, has been blamed for spreading diseases and viruses throughout the mainland, including African swine flu and Lyme disease. Some suspect the mysterious Montauk Monster emanated from the facility. TV-14
"Area 51"
Premiered Fri, October 29 at 10P
Questions surrounding the military's secret research base in the Nevada desert have been swirling around for years. Jesse faces off against guards at Area 51, to find out why the Joint Terrorism Task Force raided the homes of two Area 51 watchdogs and to review alleged evidence that the government has been faking UFO sightings and alien abductions in order to cover up darker secrets at the base. TV-PG-L
"Wall Street"
Premiered Fri, November 5 at 10P
Jesse goes inside the secret billionaire's boy's club to find out what caused the financial meltdown and how the group allegedly continues to manipulate and control the stock market and oil, gold and silver prices. From Wall Street to Washington, the governor barges in on the rich and powerful to demands answers. TV-PG-L
"Police State" – NEW!
Premieres Fri, November 12 at 10P
It's been said the government has a plan to declare martial law and round up millions of United State citizens into concentration camps. Jesse may have found a conspiracy in plain sight as he investigates the proliferation of law enforcement Fusion Centers around the country. And they may be connected to hundreds of detention centers ready to accept prisoners at the stroke of a Presidential pen. TV-PG-L
"JFK Assassination" – NEW!
Premieres Fri, November 19 at 10P
Never-published declassified CIA documents appear to support a link between the assassination of John F. Kennedy and the Watergate scandal that brought down Richard Nixon. To find out for sure, Jesse Ventura goes to Dallas, where he meets Lee Harvey Oswald's widow, Marina, and investigates the "Two Oswalds" theory that a CIA-groomed double killed JFK. TV-PG-L
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Re: Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2010, 03:08:19 PM »
Someone on this forum stated that the general public, when hearing about something being a "theory", dismis it. What is incredible is that there are theories that are whole-heartedly embraced by the general public: i.e.: Music Theory, Educational Theories (why do we wonder about our public education system, it's based on these "theories", which, by the way, NO ONE in the educational system feels compelled to dismis!), physics theories, etc. Conspiracy + theory (for most) = made-up explainations of why something happend that involved the government. People will never believe anything told to them unless it's by the main stream media head sheeple! ;D
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Re: Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2010, 08:45:44 PM »
Season two has been great and loved this epiosde...but I thought they said that there was suppose to be another 9/11 episode. What happened to that or was I mistaken?

I'll quote my post I made a couple days ago in a different thread (this thread seems much more active so I prob shoulda posted it here anyway)...
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If you go to the current episode list and view its source (right-click anywhere on page and select View Source), the Great Lakes episode (and a few others) are there, but commented out "until air date determined".  Does that mean that they are fully produced, edited, and going to air but not quite yet?

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<div class="ep-desc">They call it "Blue Gold." Water is the new oil. Once a human right, it's now a valuable commodity, and corporations and super-rich oil dynasties are believed to be buying up water rights, controlling nations and populations. Jesse looks into the possibility of these activities finding their way to American shores and uncovers what may be a plot to literally steal the Great Lakes.</div>

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<div class="ep-desc">The BP oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico has led to devastation along Louisiana's coast and in its fishing and tourism industries. But was it deliberate? Jesse Ventura leads his team into the bayou where they uncover shocking evidence of a plot to depopulate Louisiana and turn it into America's refinery. At the core: the government's secret, multi-billion dollar depopulation program that began in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and was kicked into Phase Two with the oil rig blast.</div>

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<div class="ep-desc">The idea that a missile or explosives&ndash;not a hijacked jetliner&ndash;damaged the Pentagon on September 11, 2001 seems the most unlikely of 9/11 theories. That is, until you look at the evidence, which includes eyewitness testimony, crime scene video, expert analysis and the question why, with 85 cameras trained on the building, only five frames of crash footage have ever been released. Jesse Ventura leads a serious investigation into a tangled web of evidence that some say is too sacred to touch.</div>

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The idea that a missile or explosives - not a hijacked jetliner - damaged the Pentagon on September 11, 2001 seems the most unlikely of 9/11 theories. That is, until you look at the evidence, which includes eyewitness testimony, crime scene video, expert analysis and the question why, with 85 cameras trained on the building, only five frames of crash footage have ever been released. Jesse Ventura leads a serious investigation into a tangled web of evidence that some say is too sacred to touch.

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Re: Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2010, 01:31:02 PM »
I'll quote my post I made a couple days ago in a different thread (this thread seems much more active so I prob shoulda posted it here anyway)...
yeah see I could have sworn between plum island and i think it was wallstreet when they skipped that friday that they said they had new evidence or something about 9/11. I wasn't mistaken. Haha. Thank you for your help. I knew I wasn't going crazy. Hopefully those will air :)

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Re: Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2010, 11:34:19 PM »
Yeah this one was by far the best one yet, certainly the most powerful one. It has everything in it: what the fed is, who's connected to it and the big global banks, whistleblowers, and Jesse's confrontation with them. I tell ya, this season is like watching a mini version of Alex's films. And i feel like from here on, they are only going to get more explosive.
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Re: Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2010, 02:59:01 AM »
I want to know who the hell those guys were.  They weren't listed in the credits, not on imdb, who they are or what they represent aren't being revealed.  The info we are given are "wall street insiders" or "traders", and thats it.

It was an awesome confrontation but it would be 10x awesomer if we knew who they were and/or which firms they represent.  truTV doesn't reply to emails or forum posts so I doubt we'll ever know.

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« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2010, 02:23:36 PM »
I want to know who the hell those guys were.  They weren't listed in the credits, not on imdb, who they are or what they represent aren't being revealed.  The info we are given are "wall street insiders" or "traders", and thats it.

It was an awesome confrontation but it would be 10x awesomer if we knew who they were and/or which firms they represent.  truTV doesn't reply to emails or forum posts so I doubt we'll ever know.

EXACTLY !! I have no idea who he was "confronting" at the end. If I have seem those people in the past, I have no memory of them. Unless someone can give me an answer, I'm just going to assume that they were actors playing a role for his sensationalized skit.

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« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2010, 03:00:33 PM »
EXACTLY !! I have no idea who he was "confronting" at the end. If I have seem those people in the past, I have no memory of them. Unless someone can give me an answer, I'm just going to assume that they were actors playing a role for his sensationalized skit.

Damn right! That was the most important thing! We need to forget about Goldman Sachs and forget that the Private Federal Reserve stole over $30 Trillion! We need to spend every waking hour asking the question "who were the punks at the end". Even if they pretty much appeared to be genuine traders and gave nearly identical responses to the obvious questions of the day, that matters naught. Even if the purpose was to confront that tier of the banking industry to show what insane actions they are complying with to hopefully get them back into reality...that does not matter either! We must spend all energy on this non-issue ASAP!!!!! Hip hip hooray!  derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2010, 03:09:23 PM »
Damn right! That was the most important thing! We need to forget about Goldman Sachs and forget that the Private Federal Reserve stole over $30 Trillion! We need to spend every waking hour asking the question "who were the punks at the end". Even if they pretty much appeared to be genuine traders and gave nearly identical responses to the obvious questions of the day, that matters naught. Even if the purpose was to confront that tier of the banking industry to show what insane actions they are complying with to hopefully get them back into reality...that does not matter either! We must spend all energy on this non-issue ASAP!!!!! Hip hip hooray!  derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I understand that it's not for the smartest people, just the most. But, to any uninformed person with a brain (maybe 15% of America) it takes away from his credit. What happens when they start looking into it and see how he has twisted things? The Bilderberg show comes to mind, where "... there's just one problem, Jim Tucker is currently being chased in the streets...". Then they look that up and see it wasn't true. What happens then?

I disagree that he has to sensationalize it to get his point across. It's scary enough as is.

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Re: Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2010, 03:34:10 PM »
I think we need to be weary any time our side gets mainstream media attention... because thus far I haven't seen it work in our favor.  Kinda like how Alex did an appearance on some show on the History Channel about 9/11... they probably told him they were gonna air both sides which sounds great, but come airtime they were giving Alex like 15 seconds to make a point then gave Popular Mechanics 5 minutes to discredit it.

Here we have a pretty hard hitting show being broadcasted on truTV and there's some concern about its motives.  Remember, Ted Turner effectively owns truTV and he's a Bilderberger.  truTV removes an episode about the Great Lakes from its lineup for Season 2 without any explanation, and is showing confrontations with people who are never named and their organizations they represent never revealed.

If we want to have the maximum effect, we need to be our own best critics.  Jesse should be making the show knowing that it's going to be attacked from every direction, so why give them something to dig their teeth into?  It takes like 30 seconds to add their names in After Effects... there's really no reason not to do it.

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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2010, 08:05:05 PM »
I understand that it's not for the smartest people, just the most. But, to any uninformed person with a brain (maybe 15% of America) it takes away from his credit. What happens when they start looking into it and see how he has twisted things? The Bilderberg show comes to mind, where "... there's just one problem, Jim Tucker is currently being chased in the streets...". Then they look that up and see it wasn't true. What happens then?

I disagree that he has to sensationalize it to get his point across. It's scary enough as is.

no one said that there was any sensationalism, I said it is beyond moronic to focus on the traders in the room and try to produce a resume or something when they were bona fide believers in a system which commits fraud in order to steal from the majority and give to an extreme minority. who the hell cares what level of the ladder they are on, they are on a level of it. and they represent the attitude within Goldman Sachs and others that is beyond f-d up. They were confronted by collegues who woke up.

The segment demonstrated the shift in humanity and the whistleblowers are the first patriots. the ones confronted have a choice, but now they know people are waking up.

that was the point of the segment in my opinion and there is zero lack of credibility in how it was done as far as I can see.
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Re: Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2010, 03:21:35 PM »
Whoever said "forget Goldman Sachs" above needs to remember that Goldman and the Fed are intertwined.

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Re: Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory: The Goldman Sachs Episode!
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2015, 05:46:05 AM »
Excellent thread!
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