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The worst part of the entire child persecution services is that ultimately it is the child who suffers the most.
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If you follow their FaceBook account, the husband has openly said he hates Johnathon and Stephanie, but thinks what the state did was bad. What do you think about that? Why would he not say that this is f*cked up...? to have any other position reveals intention, right?
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« Reply #162 on: October 14, 2010, 10:17:40 AM » |
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This is my suspicion as well..... this Taylor guy has refused to sign Divorce papers for over 2 yrs now.... you don't do that unless you are out for spite, looking for the opportunity to do damage to someone...
Even if the soon-to-be-ex was causing "trouble," it most often isn't always *that* where CPS gets involved to accomplish their persecution. Whistleblower social wreckers have revealed that they make the anonymous 800 call to the abuse Hotline "for each other." Cute, huh? Love, e
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Keep in mind though - if you are intelligent, keep eye contact, know your rights and insist on things written and signed - you WILL intimidate them.
Also, keep copies of documents in safe or such. Maintain detailed diary of events with dates, times and names. Watch out for people suddenly trying to be friends the criminals input people. Intimidation can backfire for example exposed some things on Church of God Topic forum they deleted my message however, shortly thereafter on my computer screen there was message that said "Good work you deserve a break". I emailed Church of God criminals each and every time they flew in their cover up team from Florida.
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I merely stated the facts of this thread to be clear. Then I posed a general question... I made no comment regarding anything you may have been thinking, since I'm not privy to what goes on in your head.
For you to infer any meaning for my previous post beyond this is your quandary, not mine...
Just the facts ma'am.
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Well the general question you posed had nothing to do with me! I hope you pay more attention to details when you "hack together" articles for the website.
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I think he is one of those ultra patriots (sarcasm) who believes EVERYTHING government does is righteous and good! And, if I were a beating woman, I would bet he is one of those ultra patriots (sarcasm), that thinks Iran needs to be blown into the dark-ages, and 9/11 was orchestrated by Osama Bin Laden in a cave.  Anyone who would sell out their child, right, wrong or indifferent is a scoundrel in my eyes! I believe more in unconditional love for my family and would NEVER sell them out, regardless!
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If you follow their FaceBook account, the husband has openly said he hates Johnathon and Stephanie, but thinks what the state did was bad. Yes. BUT, who set the state on their tail... HIM!!! He is just covering his ass... I've been here, I know this one... "I just called a "friend," and then the State took over from there I'm not doing this, it must be your Karma."... But when the state asks him to testify, he will right there, lying through his teeth... Bank on it! JTCoyoté "The common curse of mankind - folly and ignorance." ~ William Shakespeare
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Yes. BUT, who set the state on their tail... HIM!!! He is just covering his ass... I've been here, I know this one... "I just called a "friend," and then the State took over from there I'm not doing this, it must be your Karma."... But when the state asks him to testify, he will right there, lying through his teeth... Bank on it!
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I think he is one of those ultra patriots (sarcasm) who believes EVERYTHING government does is righteous and good! And, if I were a beating woman, I would bet he is one of those ultra patriots (sarcasm), that thinks Iran needs to be blown into the dark-ages, and 9/11 was orchestrated by Osama Bin Laden in a cave.  Anyone who would sell out their child, right, wrong or indifferent is a scoundrel in my eyes! I believe more in unconditional love for my family and would NEVER sell them out, regardless! When they tell you... "He's a fraud. You must give him up, or you too will be implicated, then you will loose your child. Do you want that?" The minions will infiltrate your local social circles, they will contact you under the guise of protection by phone, they will e-mail or post on forums you frequent, soft spoken and concerned for your security and safety because you are living with a demon of evil and they want to protect you... they are relentless mercenaries in service of "GOOD." (sic) JTCoyoté "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis
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When they tell you... "He's a fraud. You must give him up, or you too will be implicated, then you will loose your child. Do you want that?"
The minions will infiltrate your local social circles, they will contact you under the guise of protection by phone, they will e-mail or post on forums you frequent, soft spoken and concerned for your security and safety because you are living with a demon of evil and they want to protect you... they are relentless mercenaries in service of "GOOD." (sic)
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I am sure these cockroaches have swarmed every aspect of their lives, but again, giving up your flesh and blood is their Ace in the hole--I know there scheme. Nevertheless, standing on principle and unconditional love they would have a very tough time getting me to give them up!
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I am sure these cockroaches have swarmed every aspect of their lives, but again, giving up your flesh and blood is their Ace in the hole--I know there scheme. Nevertheless, standing on principle and unconditional love they would have a very tough time getting me to give them up!
I believe you. Yet you must be prepared to walk away should your family give you up. Even though your love is unconditional, theirs may not be, or they may believe the "authorities" and think that they must give you up because they do love you, and want you to "get better." Even though most, if not all of what you are charged with is manufactured by the globies. Because your love is unconditional the bad guys will use this against you as well ... They call it possessive-obsessive disorder. We are in a frightening catch 22 here that the average person is totally unaware of... we need to get the word out on this. JTCoyoté "The attacker must vanquish, the defender has only to prevail." ~Coyoté
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« Reply #172 on: October 14, 2010, 11:30:36 AM » |
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Also, keep copies of documents in safe or such. Maintain detailed diary of events with dates, times and names.
Watch out for people suddenly trying to be friends the criminals input people.
Intimidation can backfire for example exposed some things on Church of God Topic forum they deleted my message however, shortly thereafter on my computer screen there was message that said "Good work you deserve a break".
I emailed Church of God criminals each and every time they flew in their cover up team from Florida.
Yeah... but by that I just meant to stand your ground and show that you are aware of your rights - show intelligence. I don't suspect that's what they normally run into.
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Yes you will!!! I've got to agree with this from personal experience! Also DO NOT show fear, they are like a mad dog if they sense it!!
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« Reply #174 on: October 14, 2010, 01:53:53 PM » |
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Going from his facebook page and his friend's facebook page (watchman noyes) it appears the baby might have been released to the parents. There's a gag order so I don't know for sure. if it's true the HALLELUJIAH!, Now I hope they sue the CPS, the foster care family, the police, the doctors, and get the other two boys out of that abusive environment.
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« Reply #175 on: October 14, 2010, 01:59:28 PM » |
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If CPS returned the child, it would be unbelievable. I am sure the attorneys are handling it, but it needs to all be in writing.
Then, this couple should flee and take their baby. At very least to another State, if not another Country. Hard, but true.
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« Reply #176 on: October 14, 2010, 02:04:30 PM » |
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If CPS returned the child, it would be unbelievable. I am sure the attorneys are handling it, but it needs to all be in writing.
Then, this couple should flee and take their baby. At very least to another State, if not another Country. Hard, but true.
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I just got info that Johnathon went into court as his own legal representation and presented a good case.
They won custody of their baby but there is a gag order placed on them.
To me this is an admission of guilt to get them to shut up!
But I am happy they will get Cheyenne back! Now, I would like to see her two boys back in their custody too!
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I would grab the kids and leave America if it was me. Drastic I admit, but the kids/babies welfare is more important.
I totally agree! If CPS comes to the home of a Mexican or hispanic citizen, they leave immediately in most cases! I don't understand why these parents don't take their baby and run! **DANGER WILL ROBINSON, DANGER WILL ROBINSON**http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYfM-frIWlQ
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« Reply #181 on: October 14, 2010, 04:31:48 PM » |
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Thank God Cheyenne will be with her parents! I pray she will recover from her ordeal with Socialist Services. I was so upset about her being returned to the abusive foster home last night, I hardly slept.  This is such a relief. Copied from a post on godlikeproductions.com : "There is still the matter of her two sons who were taken. Neither Stephanie nor Jon were accused of wrong doing in that case. A caretaker struck one of the kids, the NH state forensics lab cleared the parents, but DCYF took the kids anyway. They've already had a terminination of parental rights hearing and it awaits a decision. They want to adopt out Stephanie's boys for profit." The boys are in the same abusive foster home. Anyone who prays should pray for them too. This is apparently a nationwide phenomenon.
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« Reply #182 on: October 14, 2010, 04:52:20 PM » |
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The lesson to be learned is "Don't sign a birth certificate"
"The state" perceives the woman as a vessel unloading cargo on its' shore...
birth...berth doc...dock certificate of birth...certificate of manifest delivery room
Unfortunately, The father voluntarily entered the child into the state's commerce system via his signature on the birth certificate. Apparently, "the state" had a buyer standing by who wanted his product immediately.....like 16 hours after birth.
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« Reply #184 on: October 14, 2010, 05:03:55 PM » |
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I just got info that Johnathon went into court as his own legal representation and presented a good case.
They won custody of their baby but there is a gag order placed on them.
To me this is an admission of guilt to get them to shut up!
But I am happy they will get Cheyenne back! Now, I would like to see her two boys back in their custody too!
A GAG order WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?? it is not even a REAL COURT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #186 on: October 14, 2010, 05:15:37 PM » |
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Quote: A GAG order WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?? it is not even a REAL COURT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Isn't *that* the truth ! First of all, the Irish's should be naming *their* terms:
1. No further prosecution (persecution) 2. All files related to the case provided 3. Compensation for Cheyenne's abuse (Victim's Compensation provided for in every State) 4. No wages attached or liability for the costs involved with removal & care of Cheyenne. 5. Attorney's fees paid 6. All Central Registry of Child Abusers records expunged 7. Return of the other children (if they can have one, they can have all of them) = immediately, no hoops to jump through 8. A letter of apology from CPS 9. Arrest of those responsible for Cheyenne's child abuse
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P.S. I am so happy they have Cheyenne back... {I cried when I saw the video}
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About time- Thank God this worked out with a happy ending ! This tore me a new one when I heard them on Alex show a week ago. As a mom, I can only imagine the agony she felt. I hope this travesty is OVER , and not just taking a break to resume after the heat subsides.
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Those smiles were really good to see and great they are finally united!!!!
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« Reply #189 on: October 14, 2010, 05:48:31 PM » |
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Alex says is talking about this now.
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The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. 2 He maketh me to lie down in green [1] pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. 4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest [2] my head with oil; my cup runneth over. 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.
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« Reply #191 on: October 14, 2010, 06:06:37 PM » |
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They really need to flee...
They need to think what it would be like if it went the normal course of Cheyenne's return. It would normally take at least two years...
Then, reunification would take place. Then, two weeks later it would be another excuse for removal. Then, the baby would be put up for adoption.
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Well, first there is the question of the other two children still with the (abusive?) foster parents.
I'm sure they don't want to flee without them, and shouldn't have to.
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« Reply #193 on: October 14, 2010, 06:19:12 PM » |
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yessiree this is working out! whew. that was close. i'd leave NH tho. best regards y'all.
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« Reply #194 on: October 14, 2010, 06:19:20 PM » |
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Great news!! I also hope we contributed to this victory over the system.
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« Reply #195 on: October 14, 2010, 06:24:01 PM » |
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The Gag Order is obviously just more NWO/MSM/Soros driven BS coming from the tentacled minions of Media Mudders.
God Bless you John, Stephanie, and Baby Cheyenne!
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yessiree this is working out! whew. that was close. i'd leave NH tho. best regards y'all.
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They have two other children in custody. Plus, where you going to run too, these psychos are everywhere!
Very true, I ran into the same wolves in sheep's clothes. Grass is not always greener on the other side. John & Stephanie listen to Alex keep clean. My prayers are with you!
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Very true, I ran into the same wolves in sheep's clothes. Grass is not always greener on the other side.
John & Stephanie listen to Alex keep clean. My prayers are with you!
I pray more awareness will be made by this case and the people can demand this agency to cease and desist! It is a waste of the taxpayers money, but it is also money extorted from us to allow more tyranny to rein on us!!
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Wonderful news and a beautiful little 1,000-word video! Congratulations!  But... the gag order? What, if they break it are they actually going to re-snatch the little baby? And did they make that threat to the parents? Monsters!
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