***Baby Cheyenne - signs of torture, abuse by baby snatching CPS terrorists!

[Irobot]

Thanks for all your hard work folks. Hopefuly we can stop this before it gets worse as well as educate others to cps evils.

[jshowell]

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Tonights TOPIC DISCUSSION is:
 
Was Oath Keeper's baby abused in care???
AND
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Emergency: John Irish Claims Daughter injured/ abused ! - AUDIO
http://ning.it/b1s3zM

So I click on the link and i see the page but i hear nothing.  anyone have any suggestions (yes my volume is on and the speakers are turned on)?

[Dig]

Thanks for all your hard work folks. Hopefuly we can stop this before it gets worse as well as educate others to cps evils.

this has been going on for decades, it is now being exposed. I really wish it was not true but wtf. these are the true terrorists who stop at nothing to create fear, anger, shock, and chaos throughout.

[JT Coyoté]

this has been going on for decades, it is now being exposed. I really wish it was not true but wtf. these are the true terrorists who stop at nothing to create fear, anger, shock, and chaos throughout.

Yes. We’ve seen this kind of hit strategy before, this is nothing new. You can bet that the co-intel Photo-shoppers are working frantically to put together false documents showing John Irish as a habitual criminal, a wife beater, a child abuser, an alcoholic, a crazed gun owner... We’ve seen this all before.

This time however, the close family members and friends are standing by him, instead of against him, believing the lie’s portrayed by the powers that be.

With the new revelations, of possible sexual abuse while in the custody of CPS, and the fact that the sheriff’s department has overall jurisdiction … even over municipal police, and now has custody of the baby.

Welcome to America. For the Med-Mat GS grunts, there must be crimes committed, not just opinion’s exchanged. A Man’s opinion is his opinion, his feelings about the government are well within the purview of his personal freedom. He must be found guilty of the crimes committed, evidence must by presented of such crimes, none of which has occurred in this case, not by Irish or Taylor anyway.

Most folks in the United States are well aware that the "United States government" is not our constitutional government, and holding that opinion is no crime. This is why among others, folks in law-enforcement, emergency medical personnel, and rank-and-file military, this would also include many commissioned with officers status, joined Oath Keepers in the first place. These folks have vowed to keep their constitutional oath to protect and defend the Constitution for the United States of America, the contract between the peoples of the several states, against all enemies foreign and domestic. This would include a foreign government structure posing in place of our domestic government here in the United States.

Concord — 1775/2010

Oldyoti

"What we meant, in going for
those redcoats was this -- we
had always governed ourselves,
and always meant to -- they,
didn't mean we should."
~An old New England militia captain,
after the battles of Lexington and
Concord April 19, 1775

[usefulidiot,uselesseater]

George Soros's Media Matters website is attack dogging Alex & Johnathon Irish!

Reprehensible!
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201010130042

They have a "comments" section 
Just registered. The name "tr00ther" is now registered there. 
Let's flood the comments section with some truth.

[ES]

They have a "comments" section 
Just registered. The name "tr00ther" is now registered there. 
Let's flood the comments section with some truth.

I'll sign up too. Might be a good place to wake up libs if that is possible.

[Dig]

They have a "comments" section 
Just registered. The name "tr00ther" is now registered there. 
Let's flood the comments section with some truth.

This is a very odd statement by the author...

As the 1960s historian Richard Hofstadter wrote about the paranoid style in American politics, "[t]he paranoid spokesman sees the fate of conspiracy in apocalyptic terms -- he traffics in the birth and death of whole worlds, whole political orders, whole systems of human values. He is always manning the barricades of civilization."


Why drum up some 1960's guy no one has ever heard of when wiki allows such a plethora of info about this total communist neo-liberal radical revolutionary WHO WOKE UP TO EXPOSE THE INSANITY OF THE CFR CONTROLLED RADICAL FAKE LIBERALS...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hofstadter

Early Communism

Richard Hofstadter was a Communist, and a member of the Young Communist League at university, and later progressed to Communist Party membership. In 1936, he entered the doctoral program in history at Columbia University, where Merle Curti was demonstrating how to synthesize intellectual, social, and political history based upon secondary sources rather than primary-source archival research.[4] In 1938, he joined the Communist Party of the USA, yet realistically qualified his action: "I join without enthusiasm, but with a sense of obligation.... My fundamental reason for joining is that I don't like capitalism and want to get rid of it. I am tired of talking.... The party is making a very profound contribution to the radicalization of the American people.... I prefer to go along with it now." In late 1939, he ended the Communist stage of his life, because of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact between the Soviet Union and Germany. He remained anti-capitalist: "I hate capitalism and everything that goes with it".[5]

In 1942, he earned his doctorate in history and in 1944 published his dissertation Social Darwinism in American Thought, 1860–1915, a pithy and commercially successful (200,000 copies) critique of late nineteenth-century American capitalism and those who espoused its ruthless "dog-eat-dog" economic competition and justified themselves by invoking the doctrine of Social Darwinism, as identified by William Graham Sumner. Conservative critics, such as Irwin G. Wylie and Robert C. Bannister, disagree with his interpretation.[6]


Charles Beard’s influence

In the 1940s, as an historian, Richard Hofstadter acknowledged that: "Beard was really the exciting influence on me",[7] specifically the social-conflict model of U.S. history that emphasized the struggle among competing economic groups (primarily farmers, Southern slavers, Northern industrialists, and the workers) and discounted abstract political rhetoric that was rarely translated into action. Historians following that model must search for the hidden self-interest and financial goals of the economic belligerents. As such, Charles Beard perceived the American Civil War (1861–65) as a South-to-North transference of political power, progressing from slavery to industrial capitalism, because neither the Union nor the Confederacy was truly interested in resolving the cultural and constitutional contradictions of American slavery.


Consensus historian

After 1945, Hofstadter philosophically broke with Charles Beard and moved to the right in his leadership of the "consensus historians".[8] In 1946, he joined the Columbia University faculty; in 1959, he became the DeWitt Clinton Professor of American History.

In 1948, he published The American Political Tradition and the Men Who Made It, incisive interpretive studies of twelve major American political leaders from the eighteenth, nineteenth, and twentieth centuries. Besides critical success, the book sold nearly a million copies at university campuses, where it was used as a history textbook; critics found it "skeptical, fresh, revisionary, occasionally ironical, without being harsh or merely destructive".[9] Although, as Bruce Kuklik notes, it still "owed much to Hofstadter's leftist background", it was ironic and paradoxical in dealing with political leaders from the Revolution to the present. Each chapter title illustrated a paradox: Thomas Jefferson is "The Aristocrat as Democrat"; John C. Calhoun is the "Marx of the Master Class"; and Franklin Roosevelt is "The Patrician as Opportunist".[10]

As a consensus historian, Hofstadter rejected Beard's interpretation of history as a succession of socio-economic group conflicts. He thought that all historical periods could be understood as an implicit consensus, shared by antagonists, explaining that the generation of Beard and Vernon Louis Parrington had:

...put such an excessive emphasis on conflict, that an antidote was needed.... It seems to me to be clear that a political society cannot hang together, at all, unless there is some kind of consensus running through it, and yet that no society has such a total consensus as to be devoid of significant conflict. It is all a matter of proportion and emphasis, which is terribly important in history. Of course, obviously, we have had one total failure of consensus, which led to the Civil War. One could use that as the extreme case in which consensus breaks down.[11]


Later works

As an historian, Hofstadter’s ground-breaking work came in using social psychology concepts to explain political history.[12] He explored subconscious motives such as social status anxiety, anti-intellectualism, irrational fear, and paranoia—as they propel political discourse and action in politics.


The rural ethos

The Age of Reform (1955) analyzes the yeoman ideal in America’s sentimental attachment to agrarianism and the moral superiority of the farm over the city. Hofstadter—himself very much a big-city person—noted the agrarian ethos was "a kind of homage that Americans have paid to the fancied innocence of their origins, however, to call it a myth does not imply falsity, because it effectively embodies the rural values of the American people, profoundly influencing their perception of the correct values, hence their political behavior." In this matter, the stress is upon the importance of Jefferson's writings, and of his followers, in the development of agrarianism in the US, as establishing the agrarian myth, and its importance, in American life and politics—despite the rural and urban industrialization that rendered the myth moot.[13]

Anti-Intellectualism in American Life (1963) and The Paranoid Style in American Politics (1965) describe the provincialism in American society, warning it contains much anti-intellectual fear of the cosmopolitan city, presented as wicked by the xenophobic and anti-Semitic Populists of the 1890s. They trace the direct political and ideological lineage between the Populists and anti-communist Senator Joseph McCarthy and McCarthyism, the political paranoia manifest in his contemporary time. His dissertation director Merle Curti noted about Hofstadter that: "His position is as biased, by his urban background . . . as the work of older historians was biased by their rural background and traditional agrarian sympathies".[14]


Irrational fear

The Idea of a Party System (1969) describes the origins of the First Party System as reflecting fears that the other political party threatened to destroy the republic. The Progressive Historians: Turner, Beard, Parrington (1968) systematically analyzes and criticizes the intellectual foundations and historical validity of Charles Beard's historiography; the book "signalled a growing support for neoconservatism". In the event, Turner said that, as an historian, Richard Hofstadter no longer was a useful guide, because his ideas were too isolationist, and too often had "a pound of falsehood for every few ounces of truth".[15]


Late conservativism

Consequent to the radical politics of the 1960s, and especially because of the student occupation and temporary closing of Columbia University in 1968, Hofstadter became more conservative. His friend David Herbert Donald said: "He was appalled by the growing radical, even revolutionary, sentiment that he sensed among his colleagues and his students. He could never share their simplistic, moralistic approach".[16] Moreover, he was "extremely critical of student tactics, believing that they were based on irrational romantic ideas, rather than sensible plans for achievable change, that they undermined the unique status of the university, as an institutional bastion of free thought, and that they were bound to provoke a political reaction from the right".[17] Despite strongly disagreeing with their radical political methods, he invited his students to discuss goals and strategies with him. He even employed one, Mike Wallace, to collaborate with him on American Violence: A Documentary History (1970); about the book, Hofstadter student Eric Foner said that it "utterly contradicted the consensus vision of a nation placidly evolving without serious disagreements".


Media Matters really needs to get the latest information, hopefully they will even get someone to interview the Sheriff.

[Dig]

EXACTLY 9 YEARS AND 11 MONTHS AGO TO THE DAY...

AND IT HAS GOTTEN MUCH WORSE!

The Crisis Of Foster Care
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,998479-1,00.html
By Timothy Roche Monday, Nov. 13, 2000

The autopsy photo shows a little boy who looks relieved to be dead. His eyes are closed. A hospital tube protrudes from his broken nose. He has deep cuts above his right ear and dark linear scars on his forehead. The bruises on his back are a succession of yellows, greens and blues. On the bottom of his tiny feet are unhealed third-degree burns. He had been battered and tortured. He had been tied with panty hose and belts to a banister by the woman who had become his foster grandmother. The state of Georgia had taken him away from his mother, then abandoned him in the woman's care. Little Terrell Peterson had so many injuries that the medical examiner gave up counting them. The child was six years old. He weighed only 29 lbs. The foster-care system is not working in Atlanta.

Nor is it working in Chicago, where a boy was beaten to death by two foster brothers who were known to be violent. It is not working in Bibb County, Ga., where a girl with cerebral palsy was placed in a home with a swimming pool; she was left unattended and drowned. And children are not protected in Dallas either. There two-year-old Joel Hernandez allegedly was beaten so severely that he had to be placed in a body cast. Yet social workers let him stay with his parents, then never set eyes on him--even after 15 visits to the family home brought no one to the door. All the social workers did was send a certified letter. Joel's body was later found in a shallow grave. His stepfather and uncle are charged with his murder.

Untimely death is often the only occasion for the public to catch a glimpse of the foster-care system. But there are living hells, and at times you can smell the brimstone a long way off. At others the evils come in disguise. In Gillette, Wyo., Homer and Beth Griswold were pillars of the community who were asked to be foster parents. She was a psychologist, a former member of the child-protection team. Her specialty was identifying sexual abuse. But while Beth baked Halloween cookies upstairs, Homer was downstairs molesting two of the girls in their care. Had anyone spent a couple of hours checking his background, they would have found previous allegations of abuse and harassment. Homer Griswold was sent to prison, and the girls were returned to their birth parents. "They take kids away from someone like me who hasn't got an education and money, but they give them to Homer?" asks a girl's father. "Now what am I supposed to do for my baby? You know, when she came home, I didn't know how to hold her. I didn't know if, after what she'd been through, she should sit on my lap."

[Freeski]

Had anyone spent a couple of hours checking his background, they would have found previous allegations of abuse and harassment. Homer Griswold was sent to prison, and the girls were returned to their birth parents. "They take kids away from someone like me who hasn't got an education and money, but they give them to Homer?"

This is so dangerous because it pre-supposes that the solution is better and more thorough investigation of prospective foster parents -- by the state. Yes, if a child needs to be removed and parked somewhere else, a thorough knowledge of the new guardians is essential to any reasonably intelligent person -- but the government must not be involved in that assessment whatsoever. First, it's not their role, secondly, it is the responsibility of family, and thirdly, if the family is total crappola, all that's left is private charity or the church. If all of the above fails, which is unlikely, then it's just a brutally sad aspect of life. That's the way liberty works and it's a pretty good idea.

Stop trusting government because it does not give a f**k about you or your children. It is a beast whose primary goal is growth.

[Dig]

Deny This!

Jay Rockefeller's 11 year active role in architecting CPS insanity!

The Foster Care Crisis: Translating Research into Policy and Practice (Child, Youth, and Family Services)



University of Nebraska Press, 233 N. 8th St., Lincoln, NE 68588-0255 (hardbound: ISBN-0-8032-1483-9, $50; paperback: ISBN-0-8032-6399-6, $19.95).
Tel: 800-755-1105 (Toll Free);
Web site: http://www.nebraskapress.unl.edu.

Publication Date:   1999-00-00

Pages:   258

Noting that one of the biggest obstacles to reforming the foster care system has been the relative unavailability of research data from the field, this book provides an overview of the current state of foster care, describes the special needs of children living in foster care, and identifies policies and practices that address the foster care crisis. Following an introduction, "The Chronic Nature of the Foster Care Crisis" (Patrick A. Curtis), the chapters are: (1) "Foster Care Dynamics" (Robert M. Goerge, Fred Wulczyn, and Allen Harden); (2) "The Adoption and Foster Care Analysis and Reporting System: Implications for Foster Care Policy" (Raymond Collins); (3) "Predictors of Child Protective Service Intake Decisions: Case Closure, Referral to Continuing Services, or Foster Care Placement" (Susan Zuravin and Diane DePanfilis); (4) "Foster Care and the Special Needs of Minority Children" (Anthony J. Urquiza, Jane Wu, and Joaquin Borrego, Jr.); (5) "Incorporating the Perspectives of Youth Placed in Family Foster Care: Selected Research Findings and Methodological Challenges" (Mary C. Curran and Peter J. Pecora); (6) "Foster Care and the Costs of Welfare Reform" (Mark E. Courtney); (7) "Recent Trends in Kinship Care: Public Policy, Payments, and Outcomes for Children" (Jill Duerr Berrick and Barbara Needell); (8 ) "A Proposal for Universal Medical and Mental Health Screenings for Children Entering Foster Care" (Grady Dale, Jr., Joshua C. Kendall, and Janet Stein Schultz); (9) "Foster Care and Pathways to Mental Health Services" (John Landsverk and Ann F. Garland); (10) "Foster Care and Family Reunification" (Anthony N. Maluccio); and (11) "The Rationalization of Foster Care in the Twenty-First Century" (Mark E. Courtney and Anthony N. Maluccio). (Each chapter contains references.) (KB)

Foreword by Senator John D. Rockefeller IV.


Published in association with the Child Welfare League of America.



www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/recordDetail?accno=ED439806

[Freeski]

Deny This!

Jay Rockefeller's 11 year active role in architecting CPS insanity!

WTF does this mean?

Predictors of Child Protective Service Intake Decisions

Intake? Can they be any colder?

Child Welfare League of America??? They are everywhere!

[Waltraut]

Here is my favorite story about a foster home next to my old high school. The two girls there won a multimillion lawsuit because their foster father (who was a single male with a criminal record that they ignored, with girls sent to live in his house) raped them over multiple years. He comes across like some sort of minor ex-mafia member, because he was an informant for the police regarding shady organized business crime.

The girls made multiple complaints about him, but were ignored. Of course, this made him threaten retaliation etc. Can you believe it? Even if they didn't believe the girls, they could at least shift them to a different home. http://www.king5.com/news/Former-foster-children-awarded-record-payout-in-public-records-lawsuit-69261292.html

[Waltraut]

here's another article about the foster father in the article above
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/278752_fosterdad25.html

Some 25 reports to child welfare officials detail with gruesome specificity the eight years that Ruth and Estera Tamas, now 18 and 19, lived with the on-again, off-again waiter -- at first unofficially, then as his foster children.

In one document, a police officer notes the "fresh track marks" on Fabregas' arms, indicating intravenous drug use; in another, a caller reports to state officials that Fabregas has slammed Estera against a wall; a later referral, from 2004, describes a videotape in which the same teenager is shown in a sexual act with her foster father.

Welfare officials are supposed to report sexual abuse to police, but decided that the 2004 report was without merit. They didn't alert police.
....
Fabregas, who was arrested in June after his foster daughters went to police, remains in jail on exploitation of a minor and child pornography charges.

The state's paper trail on Fabregas is voluminous. Years before the Tamas girls moved into his home, state social workers "expressed concerns regarding the relationship" between him and his adopted daughter, then 3, who had told day care workers about her father's "bad touch."

"I told Papa to stop," she said. "No, no, no."

The same child, then 8, came to school with a bruised face in 2001, saying Fabregas had bitten her, and a school counselor reported to the state, "There has been a lot of concern over the way he is with this child. Even other children are 'turned off' over the way he kisses and greets her when picking her up at school. The staff at the school state that he is 'all over her' physically all the time."
...

In February, however, after Estera Tamas finally went to police, Redmond Detective Jennifer Baldwin searched Fabregas' home and court documents report she found hundreds of pornographic photographs, movie clips, lingerie and dress-up props corroborating the girls' claims.

In some of the pictures, Baldwin said, he is posed wearing his foster daughter's underwear.

The Seattle P-I normally does not name alleged victims of sex crimes, but Estera Tamas has given her consent, as has her sister Ruth, who says she was physically, not sexually, abused.

A typical-looking teenager who favors bright toenail polish and flip-flops, Estera Tamas said the sexual assaults started when she was 12, shortly after Fabregas began dating her mother.

"I didn't tell anyone for a really long time," she said in a recent interview. "I was scared it was my fault and happened because of something I did."

Her fears, exacerbated by the knowledge that she would likely return to Fabregas' home after accusing him, led Tamas to constantly recant -- sometimes in writing -- which confounded state officials for years.

[Freeski]

Here is my favorite story about a foster home next to my old high school. The two girls there won a multimillion lawsuit because their foster father (who was a single male with a criminal record that they ignored, with girls sent to live in his house) raped them over multiple years. He comes across like some sort of minor ex-mafia member, because he was an informant for the police regarding shady organized business crime.

The girls made multiple complaints about him, but were ignored. Of course, this made him threaten retaliation etc. Can you believe it? Even if they didn't believe the girls, they could at least shift them to a different home. http://www.king5.com/news/Former-foster-children-awarded-record-payout-in-public-records-lawsuit-69261292.html

Again, it's the "they" part that is the issue. We can't let the government ever be involved in this stuff. Organized crime under the guise of "government" is all it is. And it is what it is. May these bastards burn in hell.

We need to reclaim our God-given personal responsibilty and tell the state to end their criminal over-involvement in the affairs of a free people.

[mouse]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2SXjXkhH2Q

The NH Sheriff took Cheyenne to a "doctor" who works with Socialist Services.
Sounds like she glanced at poor little Cheyenne's contusions, swelling, & bleeding in the genital area, and pronounced it "normal".
The sheriff took Cheyenne back to the abusive foster home.

God help her.

[donnay]

I thought this was pretty interesting information...

Gov. Lynch ad hits NH rival over foster parents
By NORMA LOVE - Associated Press Writer


Democratic New Hampshire Gov. John Lynch is criticizing Republican rival John Stephen in a new television ad over Stephen's decision while he was health and human services commissioner to let some felons be foster parents.

Stephen changed the rules in 2004 to let social workers decide if someone would make a good foster parent even if he or she had a criminal record. Stephen said anyone convicted of a violent crime or a crime against a child would still be banned.

Read more...


 

[shawndeprey]

I am a new listener to Alex Jones and this is the first story I have been following. The live transmission today with Mr. Irish made me absolutely sick, and, now I see an article saying Alex Jones pushes to return baby to allegedly abusive father. The fact that Mr. Irish and his wife said that those were falsified by the CPS so that that could take their baby makes this case even more infuriating. I am rooting for the Irish's and their baby. Let those jerks know they cannot do this!

[Blows Against the Empire]

 I've got a thousand thoughts that keep going through my head concerning this situation.

 The way they went about the abduction of Baby Cheyenne is a pure disgrace and an insult to all of us.  It is proof of the self-centered morons who think they know what is the best for anyone who doesn't see it their way.

 Another abuse/neglect case pending is no cause for the Pig Establishment to perform in the manner they have and to think it has likely resulted in abuse of a baby is almost unbearable for me to even think about.

 I really wish I hadn't just taken last week off. (I am only about four hours away) I don't feel it would be appreciated if I were to
ask for more time this week, otherwise I know in my heart I would be headed there in the morning.

[Dig]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2SXjXkhH2Q

The NH Sheriff took Cheyenne to a "doctor" who works with Socialist Services.

Sounds like she glanced at poor little Cheyenne's contusions, swelling, & bleeding in the genital area, and pronounced it "normal".

The sheriff took Cheyenne back to the abusive foster home.

God help her.

WHAT?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[citizenx]

I am just dumbfounded.

Evil.

[donnay]

Baby Cheyenne Story Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lq5sr3hthk&feature=related

[JT Coyoté]

Who filed the charge that got the children taken from Stephanie and John, the supposed abused child was 2 1/2 years old at the time...

Where were the bruises... on the knees, elbows, bottom... where is the documentation... David Taylor should have copies of all this charging someone. Why does he say he "Believes" John was "Beating" his child. Where is the evidence...

The Co-Intel photo-shoppers need to get busy here... you need some damning docs, dammit... The lying Pho-Sho docs were up in another recent case within hours... come on boys... try your luck... but you can bet you will loose, Stephanie won't sell him out to you... you can bank on it!  

Oldyoti

"Ideas are more powerful than guns.
We would not let our enemies have guns,
why should we let them have ideas."
~Joseph Stalin

[donnay]

Who filed the charge that got the children taken from Stephanie and John, the supposed abused child was 2 1/2 years old at the time...

Where were the bruises... on the knees, elbows, bottom... where is the documentation... David Taylor should have copies of all this charging someone. Why does he say he "Believes" John was "Beating" his child. Where is the evidence...

The Co-Intel photo-shoppers need to get busy, we need some damning docs, dammit.

Oldyoti

"Ideas are more powerful than guns.
We would not let our enemies have guns,
why should we let them have ideas."
~Joseph Stalin

I have said from the very beginning, I suspected the soon-to-be ex-husband David Taylor being the culprit of all of this!  I am still digging for more information and it is still just a hunch of mine.

Edit it to add:

http://www.facebook.com/freebabycheyenne

Free Baby Cheyenne

Stephanie Janvrin  I just wanted to remind every one before signing off for the night that
court is tomorrow at the Rochester Family court in Dover NH at 1
tomorrow, and there is a rally being held there from 12-4 Johnathon and I
will be there at 11 so that we can try to met with any one that shows
up early. Thank you again for your supp...ort!

[Paranoid Puppet Master]

This doesn't seem to be on the prison planet or infowars websites any more, hopefully they are just taking down the old stories and putting up an update, I know this isn't the only story out there (sadly), but I would think they might have it somewhere.

[Overcast]

I'll sign up too. Might be a good place to wake up libs if that is possible.

I could care less what any of the sheep at that site think to be honest; but, when they start going on about how government wouldn't do all that...

Show them this: http://www.franklincase.org/

On November 4, 1988, the Omaha Franklin Credit-Union Bank was raided and closed by the Internal Revenue Service and the FBI.  The raid was the result of an audit on Lawrence (Larry) King’s, the Franklin Credit Union's manager,  personal tax returns.

Initially, public investigators estimated King had taken about $4 million from the credit union's assets. However, by the end of the investigation, officials said King had taken around $39 million.

Paralleled with charges of embezzlement, rumors began to spread throughout Omaha that the FBI had confiscated child pornography at Franklin Credit Union offices during their raid.

Investigators began looking into allegations involving drugs, sexual misconduct, child abuse, pornography, and satanic activity. Accompanying the allegations were the names of prominent individuals in the Omaha Community. Names Including: Alan Baer, Harold W. Anderson, and Larry King.

*Also for anyone who has never heard of this Incident.

There is much more on the site, including a documentary that was supposed to air, but was pulled before it did.

[JT Coyoté]

This doesn't seem to be on the prison planet or infowars websites any more, hopefully they are just taking down the old stories and putting up an update, I know this isn't the only story out there (sadly), but I would think they might have it somewhere.

The infowars.com story is not what is driving this thread, it is the John Irish phone call to Alex on the air yesterday and what was happening in NH at the time that is however.

Ask yourself this...

If you were a new parent and your newborn was grabbed from you still wet from the womb. Then 5 days later, when you are finally allowed to hold your child, the baby is lethargic and unresponsive. So you decide to change the diaper in hopes of rousing even a whimper from your baby and you see blood all over her bottom… what would you do, or think? I mean Really.

JTCoyoté

"There is nothing like a sentence of death,
and 30 seconds, to wonderfully clear the mind."
~ Robert Bly

[Satyagraha]

Baby Seized In “Oath Keepers” Case Taken To Hosipital
http://www.prisonplanet.com/baby-seized-in-oath-keepers-case-taken-to-hosipital.html
Maddie Hanna
Concord Monitor
Oct 14, 2010

The newborn taken from an Epsom couple last week by state social workers was sent to the hospital yesterday but is fine, officials said last night.

Parents Johnathon Irish and Stephanie Taylor had a supervised visit with their daughter and a state social worker yesterday at a Strafford County administration building and during the visit “there was some concern about the possibility of some blood that was seen in a diaper,” said Capt. Joseph DiGregorio of the Strafford County Sheriff’s Office.

As a “precautionary measure,” DiGregorio said, the sheriff’s office decided to have the baby examined at Exeter Hospital.
But there was “no indication of any abuse,” he said. “Zero. Nothing.” The baby was back in foster care last night, DiGregorio said.

(More)

[Overcast]

The NH Sheriff took Cheyenne to a "doctor" who works with Socialist Services.

Not sure if that was intentional, but it was awesome. I will never, ever call them anything but that again. Even to their faces.

f**k CPS; the school has tried to use them as a weapon against me in the past, a couple of times. But each time the caseworker has closed the case after the first visit.

I have a good story about CPS; long before I was 'awake' or even gave a crap about politics - but I was still a rebel.

CPS was called by the hospital I took my son to. The doctor said we needed to bring him back in 2 days for a follow up, but later before we left, we asked the nurse if there was any particular time or where we should go when we bring him back. She then says, "Oh it's not necessary that you bring him back."

Fine; I figured they had changed their mind, maybe due to blood work coming back, etc... didn't ask anymore questions.

Three days later, CPS shows up at the door. I was cordial, let her in without problems and explained to her is was obviously just a mis-communication at the hospital. The *second* this lady walks in the living room where my son's laying in his crib, she IMMEDIATELY DEMANDS that my wife take off his diaper. Obviously insinuating sexual abuse. My temper went REAL high REAL fast. She had NO probable cause to even suspect this. I forget what she said after that; to be honest, I needed to get away from her. I refused to talk to her at all past that point.

A few days later she shows back up again. She requests to come in. I asked her - calmly, "Do you know where the Hamilton County Courthouse is?" - she says, "yes". To which I reply, "Good, go there and get a warrant." and slam the door in her face.

About an hour later, she comes back to the door with a heavy guy in a suit and a Cincinnati Police Officer. I open the door, the guy in the suit asks if they can enter. This of course, right after she's going on about 'her side' of the story.

I told him yes, you can come in, and the officer can - but if the lady doesn't get off this property RIGHT NOW, I'm calling Ohio State Patrol to press charges against her for trespassing. I told them that they can send ANY other worker, but if she wants in, THEY WILL need a warrant.

She was quite taken aback, because I wasn't refusing anyone but her - I stood my ground too. I then told him my side of the story, asking why there is an obvious overtone of question about 'sexual abuse' when it was just a mis-communication with the hospital. He didn't have any answers.

In any event, the next time - they sent another worker. I made it clear to them that I was aware of my rights.

[Overcast]

If you were a new parent and your newborn was grabbed from you still wet from the womb. Then 5 days later, when you are finally allowed to hold your child, the baby is lethargic and unresponsive. So you decide to change the diaper in hopes of rousing even a whimper from your baby and you see blood all over her bottom… what would you do, or think? I mean Really.

JTCoyoté

Not 100% sure what I would do would be rational. Kudos to Mr. Irish for maintaining his cool.

[Paranoid Puppet Master]

The infowars.com story is not what is driving this thread, it is the John Irish phone call to Alex on the air yesterday and what was happening in NH at the time that is however.

Ask yourself this...

If you were a new parent and your newborn was grabbed from you still wet from the womb. Then 5 days later, when you are finally allowed to hold your child, the baby is lethargic and unresponsive. So you decide to change the diaper in hopes of rousing even a whimper from your baby and you see blood all over her bottom… what would you do, or think? I mean Really.

JTCoyoté

"There is nothing like a sentence of death,
and 30 seconds, to wonderfully clear the mind."
~ Robert Bly

I'm not sure what in the world you are talking about. I heard the live interview and it made me sick. But not everyone gets to hear the show everyday and I thought it was an important event that is taking place that people should know about (I see there is a new story on the top of prison planet now). When did I indicate the website was running this thread? I was using this thread to make a constructive comment about the website. And what do you mean "what would I do?" I happen to think that John and Stephanie Irish are handling this better than most of us would. The government seems desperate to provoke some kind of reaction, resorting to publicly mistreating 16-hour old babies. When did I ever say anything about what they are doing? The comment was about the website, not about the Irishes. I am sorry if I gave an impression otherwise.

[JT Coyoté]

Not 100% sure what I would do would be rational. Kudos to Mr. Irish for maintaining his cool.

I agree...

You can bet that Stephanie's tear ducts are raw... You can also bet that there is much effort being leveled on her to sell out the baby's father... I speak from experience here... sowing the seeds of doubt and dissension in a time of high emotion... I hate globalists and loath and despise their minions who rationalize this kind of "Criminality under the color of law" under the "altruistic" and austere category of "Crime Prevention."

JTCoyoté

"If the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they
cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make
such laws and enforce them." ~Candidus, (aka Samuel Adams),
in the Boston Gazette, January 20, 1772

[JT Coyoté]

I'm not sure what in the world you are talking about. I heard the live interview and it made me sick. But not everyone gets to hear the show everyday and I thought it was an important event that is taking place that people should know about (I see there is a new story on the top of prison planet now). When did I indicate the website was running this thread? I was using this thread to make a constructive comment about the website. And what do you mean "what would I do?" I happen to think that John and Stephanie Irish are handling this better than most of us would. The government seems desperate to provoke some kind of reaction, resorting to publicly mistreating 16-hour old babies. When did I ever say anything about what they are doing? The comment was about the website, not about the Irishes. I am sorry if I gave an impression otherwise.

I merely stated the facts of this thread to be clear. Then I posed a general question... I made no comment regarding anything you may have been thinking, since I'm not privy to what goes on in your head.

For you to infer any meaning for my previous post beyond this is your quandary, not mine...

Just the facts ma'am.

JTCoyoté

"All socialism involves slavery."
~Herbert Spencer

[Overcast]

..  The government seems desperate to provoke some kind of reaction, resorting to publicly mistreating 16-hour old babies. When did I ever say anything about what they are doing?

That's an interesting observation too. Maybe it's like.. a bully pushing another kid around, taunting; wanting to see his reaction so he can 'take him out'.

I think you hit the nail on the head there.

So.. the bully pushes and pushes, if the 'kid' getting picked on, suddenly lashes out in an emotional rage, the bully can beat him - very likely.

But if the 'kid' stays his ground and keeps using logic - that bully BEST watch out.

I was the 'kid' at one point in my life;  the bully.. well, he did in fact push me too far once, but I never reacted out of 'emotion'. I turned around on the bus and looked at him, in my mind I was taking aim... really. He kept it up, I knew right where his head needed to be.

Before he knew what hit him, I slammed my elbow into his jaw, breaking it. I rose up, with my fist, getting ready to pound his face into oblivion - he had it coming for 3 years of tormenting me.

But then... his eyes were just flowing with tears. I mean big time. My compassion backed me off. He never rode the bus again, perhaps his parents complained and perhaps the bus driver made it clear that he had been taunting and hitting me for years.

Yes, I think they want an emotional reaction.... I think you are dead right.

[independentWV]

I agree...

You can bet that Stephanie's tear ducts are raw... You can also bet that there is much effort being leveled on her to sell out the baby's father... I speak from experience here... sowing the seeds of doubt and dissension in a time of high emotion... I hate globalists and loath and despise their minions who rationalize this kind of "Criminality under the color of law" under the category of "Crime Prevention."

JTCoyoté

"If the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they
cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make
such laws and enforce them." ~Candidus, (aka Samuel Adams),
in the Boston Gazette, January 20, 1772

Yes, JT the criminals band together in secrecy know this first hand. It is not just a battle with CPS, courts and law enforcement, doctors violate HIPPA and other laws to protect the secrets, Church of God has staff just for cover up purposes to insure their secrets are safe all in the name of covering these atrocities.  

[JT Coyoté]

That's an interesting observation too. Maybe it's like.. a bully pushing another kid around, taunting; wanting to see his reaction so he can 'take him out'.

I think you hit the nail on the head there.

So.. the bully pushes and pushes, if the 'kid' getting picked on, suddenly lashes out in an emotional rage, the bully can beat him - very likely.

But if the 'kid' stays his ground and keeps using logic - that bully BEST watch out.

I was the 'kid' at one point in my life;  the bully.. well, he did in fact push me too far once, but I never reacted out of 'emotion'. I turned around on the bus and looked at him, in my mind I was taking aim... really. He kept it up, I knew right where his head needed to be.

Before he knew what hit him, I slammed my elbow into his jaw, breaking it. I rose up, with my fist, getting ready to pound his face into oblivion - he had it coming for 3 years of tormenting me.

But then... his eyes were just flowing with tears. I mean big time. My compassion backed me off. He never rode the bus again, perhaps his parents complained and perhaps the bus driver made it clear that he had been taunting and hitting me for years.

Yes, I think they want an emotional reaction.... I think you are dead right.

The vast majority of the people are on the side of the Family Court/CPS bully right now. Therefore any emotional reaction on the part of anyone closely involved in this case would go against honest justice and righteous resolution.

Oldyoti

"One of the main purposes for the control
and power of the Establishment media is to
keep the masses deceived and ignorant about
their rights and oppressions of their rights."
~Charles Weisman
 

[Overcast]

The vast majority of the people are on the side of the Family Court/CPS bully right now. Therefore any emotional reaction on the part of anyone closely involved in this case would go against honest justice and righteous resolution.

Oldyoti


 

Perhaps, but I personally know of very few people that trust CPS at all. Even if I felt I needed to call against someone, It would be a heavy weight on me, as CPS can be more of a risk that anything.

There was an older gentleman that lives near me, that - for months - would sit at the busiest intersection in town with his white Jeep - and billboards all over it and would hold one up, about 'Kentucky Cabinet for Children Taking his Grandchildren'. He also made it clear he was a Korean War Vet, etc.. as well.

I only had the utmost respect for him. No one I know in  town would say a bad word about him, the vast majority would only agree that 'CPS' suck.

[donnay]

I agree...

You can bet that Stephanie's tear ducts are raw... You can also bet that there is much effort being leveled on her to sell out the baby's father... I speak from experience here... sowing the seeds of doubt and dissension in a time of high emotion... I hate globalists and loath and despise their minions who rationalize this kind of "Criminality under the color of law" under the "altruistic" and austere category of "Crime Prevention."

JTCoyoté

"If the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they
cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make
such laws and enforce them." ~Candidus, (aka Samuel Adams),
in the Boston Gazette, January 20, 1772

That's it, JT.  These rat bastards do not play nice.  They twist and contrive everything, they lie and bully--there is no fair playing ground when you are dealing with these people--none!

CPS (Child 'Protection' Scheme) has got to be the very worst, IMHO.  They can come in a steal your children just because, and set you up anyway that makes them look good and you look very very bad!

[Overcast]

That's it, JT.  These rat bastards do not play nice.  They twist and contrive everything, they lie and bully--there is no fair playing ground when you are dealing with these people--none!

CPS (Child 'Protection' Scheme) has got to be the very worst, IMHO.  They can come in a steal your children just because, and set you up anyway that makes them look good and you look very very bad!

Keep in mind though - if you are intelligent, keep eye contact, know your rights and insist on things written and signed - you WILL intimidate them.

[redeux]

I have said from the very beginning, I suspected the soon-to-be ex-husband David Taylor being the culprit of all of this!  I am still digging for more information and it is still just a hunch of mine.

This is my suspicion as well..... this Taylor guy has refused to sign Divorce papers for over 2 yrs now.... you don't do that unless you are out for spite, looking for the opportunity to do damage to someone...

[donnay]

This is my suspicion as well..... this Taylor guy has refused to sign Divorce papers for over 2 yrs now.... you don't do that unless you are out for spite, looking for the opportunity to do damage to someone...

If you follow their FaceBook account, the husband has openly said he hates Johnathon and Stephanie, but thinks what the state did was bad.

David-Micheal Lawrence Taylor  Even though I hate both John and my Ex-wife, I do think its f**ked up how the state went about this bullshit.
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