The end is near Fox allows truth about 9/11 on air today

[Sailor]

I don't know if I should be happy or crawl under my bed 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9DQ4EpgYzY

[citizenx]

Well, they hadn't kicked off Judge Napolitano even after he became a truther.  Soemething was in the wind -- that is what I thought.

And, yes, this would be both good and scary news.

Next they'll roll out the Beckster as a truther -- with a twist I suppose.

[Satyagraha]

Must be why MediaMatters was on the attack against Napolitano & Alex Jones this week. ATTACK DOGS set loose when a little truth gets out.

[chrisfromchi]

Next they'll roll out the Beckster as a truther -- with a twist I suppose.

totally expect that after the election and maybe starting in march with a drumup to the 10th anniversary.

something more..."the truth about 911 is that we don't know the truth of 911/pakistan did it" rather than "lonegunman plot/nwo"

[citizenx]

You might be on to something there.  Maye they simply want to use 9/11 again for something else.

[lamourlady]

You might be on to something there.  Maye they simply want to use 9/11 again for something else.

Yes, that the aliens did it!   

[chrisfromchi]

You might be on to something there.  Maye they simply want to use 9/11 again for something else.

Well something like, "obama knows and is using that knowledge to advance his handlers commie agenda because clinton's cia set up alqueda and bush got fooled so as not to look weak to the world did iraq and blew terrorism totally out of proportion while making money for the main government establishments"

something to that level that basically gets bush, laura, rove, and some other select neocon estalibishment republicans cover while burning others.

oh and he has "documents"

that level of intense shit could work and totally co-opt everything alex jones and twist it apple pie/baseball republican


and if all this comes to pass i will then beleive in the annunaki or whatever varation our overlords see fit for us to know.

[worcesteradam]

crazy stuff from Scheuer.
need more of that on msm

[Mr Grinch]

Must be why MediaMatters was on the attack against Napolitano & Alex Jones this week. ATTACK DOGS set loose when a little truth gets out.

MM hack propagandist is pwned in his own comment section by lefty readers.... Not open AJ supporters..
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201010080030

[citizenx]

Wonder how Beck possibly retiring/leaving FOX...

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Glenn Beck Leaving Fox News?
     

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Saturday, October 9, 2010

Recent headlines surrounding Glenn Beck’s health problems could be a face-saving ploy to pave the way for his exit from Fox News, which could be a reason why Beck has become increasingly hardcore in recent weeks, knowing that he is on his way out.



Since Beck has been appointed the de facto leader of the patriot movement by the establishment media while reaching some 50 million people a week, it’s necessary to look at why he’s started to cover real issues in recent months instead of blaming the march of big government collectivism on people like Van Jones and other relative nobodies.

Although Beck undoubtedly has genuine health problems, these could just be a secondary factor to the real reasons why he may be preparing to quit Fox News in the near future.
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...fits into all this?

link:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/glenn-beck-leaving-fox-news.html

[Aoss]

...fits into all this?

Quite possibly.  Fox News will probably want to fill Beck's timeslot with someone of similar views, because that's whats getting them ratings.  I doubt they'll put a Hannity or O'Reilly-type personality in his slot.

I'd be thrilled to see someone like the Judge re-hijack the tea party from the GOP and restore its constitutional roots.

[worcesteradam]

wow if thats true what kind of switch are they planning.
some suspicious strategy going on here

[WarChest]

Quite possibly.  Fox News will probably want to fill Beck's timeslot with someone of similar views, because that's whats getting them ratings.  I doubt they'll put a Hannity or O'Reilly-type personality in his slot.

I'd be thrilled to see someone like the Judge re-hijack the tea party from the GOP and restore its constitutional roots.

That would truly be a treat.

What of the Ron Paul snippet that was at the end. Dose anyone have a link to that?

[jimd3100]

I don't know if I should be happy or crawl under my bed 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9DQ4EpgYzY

Well.....that was interesting.

[Sailor]

I can imagine a scenario where 9/11 being an inside job comes out fully but it is overshadowed by two or three huge global events like a Real war with Iran and China which starts by a nuke false flag in the US days after the dollar/bond market crash. That is why I said this looks bad. If we are at the point where the establishment is about to let 9/11 out of the bag on FOX with the idea that "well we can't stop 9/11 truth so lets use it" God help us that is all I can say. 9/11 fully out into the light coming means not only a complete removal and renewal of the American Government it means the whole Anglo American establishment facing a weakness it hasn't ever faced. I want justice for 9/11 but we need to understand this will get real messy and ugly. These people would kill us all before they would go to a prison cell. So when I saw that video I thought dollar crash in 321........    

[citizenx]

Scheuer's responses are actually laughable in parts.

"No, the CIA would never do that" -- neutralize sources because of its own interests.  Right.  LOL.

"The 9/11 commission was blessed with the most brilliant staff on Earth."

"It was (mostly) Bill Clinton's fault."

Of course these are paraphrases, but honest to the spririt of what this jerk (disinfo specialist) is putting out.

[Djævlen]

The seeds of 9/11 becoming legit and mainstream were planted today on Freedom Watch (always an amazing show)

[Freeski]

Interesting comment by Shaffer that each of the 9/11 Commissioners had their own independent (or) individual angle on the overall thing. Compartmentalization? But many of those same commissioners have stated, publicly, that they were not permitted to do the job - or that it was a whitewash/cover-up from the start. Very odd. Are the commissioners just appeasing the public, were they dupes from the beginning, or are they fully complicit players in their own individual divisions?

Hopefully he will get Zelikow on the show next week!

[Shorebreak]

Think about this:

From a central banking perspective, the consolidation of world central banks has already taken place, last month in Switzerland. The official global central bank is already in place. Including China, Japan, Middle East, EU, North American, and South American, and other Asian economies.

My opinion is that the leading controlled governments have decided to place their plans on fast forward and move the final pieces into place before too many people - especially those in leadership positions who are not NWO.

A huge part of the effort in the United States is to ultimately have the American people arrive at the false conclusion that our sovereign Constitutional system is a failure. Detonate the economy, become part of global tyranny, work against the wishes of the American people, etc etc.

Part of that is to find internal fault or blame that focus's directly on our government, to present everything from ineptitude to dishonesty to criminal behavior and to treason.

On one hand, we agree that the public needs to learn the truth about 9/11, but on the other hand, we're in a situation where that truth can be spun in order to implicate a few lesser role players, and enable the media to convince people that our current national system cannot be trusted - and to falsely show the world that global military oversight is a necessary mandate for the future of humanity.

So it's my expectation that 9/11 will be exposed by the mainstream media. It's too difficult to maintain the cover-up. But the exposure will be a spin of the truth in order to fulfill the overall agenda.

Since the NWO plan is now on fast forward, before too many people realize what is happening, I expect this will fully happen in the next 12-24 months. It started in earnest on mainstream media when Governor Ventura was granted airtime for his Conspiracy Theory program.

[Clint Webb]

or they're thinking sarah palin and glenn beck are so batshit crazy (and they are) that associating 9/11 truth with fox will only help it from ever becoming reputable.

[birther truther tenther]

BUMP!


One of the global moderators needs to sticky this thread!

[able]

quote from poster at 911oz.

It's not at all strange Able, the reason they are promoting knowledge of "able danger", and promoting this book in the media (which will not touch 9/11truth) is that it backs up the official story that 19 hijackers planned and executed 9/11.

The defacto-official story is that it was an intelligence cock-up that allowed 9/11 to happen, they were tracking the 'terrorists'' but interdepartmental blunders allowed the terrorists to slip though the intelligence net. They are promoting that the 911 commission is a sham only because the intelligence agencies and agents that caused the cock-up are having their arses protected by the 911 commissioners.

As far as I'm concerned their were no genuine hijackers on 9/11, whether a few patsies were on the planes or not I don't know, but the 9/11 hijackers were a sham and therefore so was "able danger" as we are being told it existed.

This promotion of "able danger" is designed to enhance the '9/11 was an intelligence cock-up theory' and the only real conspiracy is officialdom covering up that cock-up.

"Able danger" should be ignored by the 9/11 truth movement, it is as irrelevant to what happened on 9/11 as the hijackers it claims to have been tracking.

its of the same opinion as mike from whatreallyhappend... logical fall back line?

[CheneysWorstNightmare]

Add this with Cleveland saying, "Pss...9/11 was an inside job" and things seem very strange....

[wvoutlaw2002]

It's all a ploy to paint all truthers as right-wing lunatics/whackos/extremists in the current administration. Once a Republican replaces Soetero in 2012, they'll have Olbermann and/or Maddow pretend to be a truther to paint truthers as left-wing lunatics/whackos/extremists.

[Dig]

It's all a ploy to paint all truthers as right-wing lunatics/whackos/extremists in the current administration. Once a Republican replaces Soetero in 2012, they'll have Olbermann and/or Maddow pretend to be a truther to paint truthers as left-wing lunatics/whackos/extremists.

When they move from left to right too quickly, they blow the whole Matrix.

Soetoro was supposed to give them 8 good years, he hardly gave them 1. The shifts are too quick and they know it.

[grapecrusher1]

When they move from left to right too quickly, they blow the whole Matrix.

Soetoro was supposed to give them 8 good years, he hardly gave them 1. The shifts are too quick and they know it.

Perhaps they are surprised how long it took for some to get it and laughed all the way through.

This assertion that they are under fire and scrambling doesnt wash as there really is nothing that seems to indicate they are losing. 

[SongBird]

Perhaps they are surprised how long it took for some to get it and laughed all the way through.

This assertion that they are under fire and scrambling doesnt wash as there really is nothing that seems to indicate they are losing. 

The real battle in this life is for hearts and minds, baby steps dear man, one soul at a time, keep yourself clean and all will be fine.

[Clint Webb]

This assertion that they are under fire and scrambling doesnt wash as there really is nothing that seems to indicate they are losing. 

i agree. if anything this is them putting the story out in a way just to set it up later as complete whacko. and they'll probably succeed, too.

[citizenx]

They're going to create a new useful myth.

They are not going to let it go to waste.

They are going to re-cycle it.

[grapecrusher1]

i agree. if anything this is them putting the story out in a way just to set it up later as complete whacko. and they'll probably succeed, too.

Yeah almost like:
"heads up",
"over here",
"Didn't think that Jones would be the most progressive force against us, hahaha"

[SUPREMEMASTER]

Yes, that the aliens did it!  

No no no -- that dipstick puppet George Bush did 9/11 --









-- now that Obama is the president, we can all celebrate and forget.




(Credit goes to Dig for the idea of how to use this kind of picture)

Yay Obama!

[Brocke]

I don't know if I should be happy or crawl under my bed 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9DQ4EpgYzY

Can anybody recognize the lapel pin that Col. Anthony Shaffer is wearing in this interview? I can't clearly make it out and I don't want to speculate.

[citizenx]

I can't for the life of me tell.  Maybe somebody could do a screen-capture and try to blow it up.

[Brocke]

Can anybody recognize the lapel pin that Col. Anthony Shaffer is wearing in this interview? I can't clearly make it out and I don't want to speculate.

Never mind! I found it.

Military Intelligence Lapel pin

[citizenx]

Lest we forget.  Good work.

[shipgeek]

I can imagine a scenario where 9/11 being an inside job comes out fully but it is overshadowed by two or three huge global events like a Real war with Iran and China which starts by a nuke false flag in the US days after the dollar/bond market crash.

Not a war with Iran. I don't see it. At least not in an immediate future.

The US are bankrupt, skyrocketing unemployment, economy tanking and deep down in the goo in Af/Pak they won't be able to hold more of the same.

People are fed up by all the lies. It looks as if even the most sheepish of sheep are fed up.

The truth will still come out.

[Sailor]

Not a war with Iran. I don't see it. At least not in an immediate future.

The US are bankrupt, skyrocketing unemployment, economy tanking and deep down in the goo in Af/Pak they won't be able to hold more of the same.

People are fed up by all the lies. It looks as if even the most sheepish of sheep are fed up.

The truth will still come out.

I don't know. Kissinger and Brzezinski have been putting out the vibe that Russia and China are on the chess board. Iran is a proxy war with Russia. Pakistan is a proxy war with China. If a huge war broke out before a dollar crash the world (normally) would run to the US dollar for safety. If it happens after a dollar crash Americans won't care that 9/11 was an inside Job they will be to busy looking for food. If it happens before a dollar crash Americans will not care that 9/11 was an inside Job because they will be focused on who ever is blamed for the next false flag. So I think if 9/11 truth goes mainstream look out.   

[lokiverloren]

just because it's on tv doesn't mean people are going to believe it, any more than the obverse. there was a study recently, earlier this year, which showed that - and maybe this is what it's about - when people of the black and white mentality type of thinking get told something from a source they trust, corrections that come afterwards only reinforce their faith in the original BS they were fed. if you ask me, this stuff is basically aimed at this angle, and even worse, look how much attention it's all getting from people here!

and seriously, christine o'donnell and her crowd, as well as beck, these people are, in my view intentionally (at least someone intends this) creating a public image of constitutionalists look like a bunch of nutjobs. 'i'm not a witch, i'm you' she says.

the mainstream media doesn't show realistic pictures of the libertarian/centrist political movements for a reason: because we are all quite moderate and intelligent, by and large, and this would contrast very strongly from the polarity of left and right both of which are very much the good cop bad cop management routine.

9/11 truth is going to be reinvented as a chic cool thing to be into, a fashion, i don't personally believe that just because people believe it that they are going to suddenly rise up and become politically active. in fact, what a perfect opportunity to smear the movement with an act of terrorism. obviously like in toronto, people noticed the agent provocateurs, the reason: because everyone who was there was for real about what they were there for.

turn it into fashion, and you can have a lot of tag-alongs who are there to be seen to be cool and into the new thing and it's much easier to hide agent provocateurs amongst insipid 'me too' people.

having watched other underground cultures emerge into the mainstream before, the tactic i have seen it before, i remember the last outdoor rave party i went to in northern new south wales and there was bogans in attendance, with a crate of beer, no less. tag-alongs. and also, idiots with epilepsy knowingly taking mdma and warranting attendance from the ambulance whose radio chatter brought the police along of course. naturally the outdoor psychedelic rave movement is hardly a political movement but within the scope of the small pockets they congregated similar things happened. seriously tho, those hick dudes with their beer, they looked so out of place, how hard is it really, to encourage non-in-group people to join a movement, and once you get enough of these types involved hiding agent provocateurs and gathering intelligence about gatherings and actions and the like, it gets very easy.

[xereau]

I have been saying for YEARS that 9/11 was so sloppy for the purpose of fueling a violent revolt.  Scary thing it has taken nearly a decade to get this far.

[_CREATIONIST_]

Scheuer's responses are actually laughable in parts.

"No, the CIA would never do that" -- neutralize sources because of its own interests.  Right.  LOL.

"The 9/11 commission was blessed with the most brilliant staff on Earth."

"It was (mostly) Bill Clinton's fault."

Of course these are paraphrases, but honest to the spririt of what this jerk (disinfo specialist) is putting out.

Scheaur may be a disinformation artist, but at least he agreed with Col. Shaffer and helped blow the 9/11 Commission report out of the water