Government Seizes Newborn Baby Over Political Beliefs Of Parents [Oathkeepers]

[SUPREMEMASTER]

Stewart Rhodes writes today on the Oath Keepers website that the Southern Poverty Law Center is now officially part of the Department of Homeland Security.

WHAT!?




...Sorry to make such an unproductive post, but UUUGGGGHHHHH

[donnay]

Copy and paste if you don't have words of your own!

Contact New Hampshire Governor Lynch:

(603) 271-2121
email form: http://www4.egov.nh.gov/governor/goveforms/comments.asp

Here's what I sent: (yeah, I'm pissed off)

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Governor Lynch, please get off your ass and return Cheyenne Irish to her mother now. All the Oathkeepers care about is the law of the land and it's time for you to stand up for this poor family, and your country. Every minute this goes on is despicable and disgusting! Do your job and protect these people from these fascist monsters.

Steve (from Canada)
Land of the free my ass!

This is also a voting year!  Publicity of this will definitely put a damper on his future if he doesn't act, swiftly.  I reminded him of this too!

To contact these people:

Johnathan Irish and Stephine Janvrin
411 Campground Road
Northwood, NH  03621

Janvrin6228@gmail.com

[JINXT333]

We NEED to get this as the #1 Google search.Lets push this all day.We can do this it is within our power to change the outcome of this case thru the information war.This is an election year so we can change this.they are trying to break our will we can not tolerate this latest attack on our liberties but our spirit as well

#1 Google search
Gvrmnt Kidnaps Baby Over Political Beliefs Of Parents

(If anyone can think of something more clever do it! lets just get this as #1 Google search)

[Optimus]

We NEED to get this as the #1 Google search.Lets push this all day.We can do this it is within our power to change the outcome of this case thru the information war.This is an election year so we can change this.they are trying to break our will we can not tolerate this latest attack on our liberties but our spirit as well

#1 Google search
Gvrmnt Kidnaps Baby Over Political Beliefs Of Parents

(If anyone can think of something more clever do it! lets just get this as #1 Google search)

Search terms
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=188946.0

[Infoninja]

Alex has a video up called "CPS kidnaps baby". Let's use that term....

[jshowell]

Angry posts?

The anger has not come from humans who are upset, the outrage came from someone using a piece of paper to kidnap an infant from their parents in public, in broad daylight, based on association with a group committed to defending the legal government and the constitution.

I mean, I am sure in a Brave New World, we can just take our Soma and engage in some Pagan ritual to deal with this as Huxley/Rockefeller/Carnegie/Ford would like us to. This is a 100% attack on humanity itself. We are being not only dehumanized but we are even being desensitized to our most basic instincts of protecting and loving our own children.

Again, how is this not a clear and present danger to national security when an anti-constitutional and anti-government agency like the Dyncorp / East India Trading Company child kidnapping ring is able to target people because they are committed to protect the government from all enemies to it?

Hey, it's a mommy and daddy issue.  Stephanie's old husband won't sign divorce papers and he's one of the parties involved in the problem. :  http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/concord-hospital-protest-against-baby-kidnap-video
Mother of the baby, Stephanie Janvrin's former partner and legal husband, David Taylor refuses to sign divorce papers and claims that he is the father of the baby according to statements made at the protest.

"He will not accept or sign the papers" for a divorce. "He just will not do it," she said.

Like I said in my post on the second page it's normally the past partner or some other relative that's the problem.  The state reacts to what the perceived legal reality is, and right now on paper Stephanie's still married to a guy who isn't allowed to have kids (according to a court order).

This happens ALL THE TIME in family court.  One of the partners takes out their hurt feelings by hurting their old partner like never signing divorce papers.  So there's thousands of other cases just like this one, only they've included a new parameter, an association with oathkeepers.  Oathkeepers will probably get that removed, but all the other allegations still stand.  

I really hope they have some family member they can trust to have guardian status and have already taken Alex Jones advice, otherwise they're going to have a very tough time getting their baby back.  

[donnay]

WND Exclusive LIFE WITH BIG BROTHER
State snatches baby when dad accused of being 'Oath Keeper'
'You could be on 'the list' and then child protective services might come'

Excerpt from the article:

However, the document, first reported by talk-radio host and WND columnist  Roger Hedgecock, went on to suggest worsening economic woes, potential new legislative restrictions on firearms and "the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks."

The report from DHS' Office of Intelligence and Analysis defined right-wing extremism in the U.S. as "divided into those groups, movements and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups) and those that are mainly anti-government, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."

Read it here:

[JINXT333]

PLEASE MAKE THIS #1 GOOGLE SEARCH OVER WEEKEND!

              Government Seizes Newborn

[Dig]

Hey, it's a mommy and daddy issue.  Stephanie's old husband won't sign divorce papers and he's one of the parties involved in the problem. :  http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/concord-hospital-protest-against-baby-kidnap-video
Mother of the baby, Stephanie Janvrin's former partner and legal husband, David Taylor refuses to sign divorce papers and claims that he is the father of the baby according to statements made at the protest.

"He will not accept or sign the papers" for a divorce. "He just will not do it," she said.

He is the father, the separated husband has nothing to do with it. They did not catch the separated husband at the house. They wrote that the reason the father is not an acceptable guardian is because he is a member of oathkeepers.

That was the only reason.

This is 100% bullshit and exposes that not only are CPS a total national security threat, but the surveillance economy has become so perverted, they create this Nazi state of guilt by assossiation to those committed to defend our government from anti-government, anti-constitutional threats.

SURVEILLANCE ECONOMY EXPOSED
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=186953.0

Like I said in my post on the second page it's normally the past partner or some other relative that's the problem.  The state reacts to what the perceived legal reality is, and right now on paper Stephanie's still married to a guy who isn't allowed to have kids (according to a court order).

The "state" as you say is not the "state" it is a corrupt institution of family pseudo-courts (not part of the constitutional court system) which were created by eugenecists for the purpose of eliminating the power of lower class society. The Eugenics Records Office is on record as creating this mind set. They were founded by Carnegie/Rockefeller/Ford:

**UNCOVERED: Cutting Off the Defective Germ-Plasm in the American Population
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=179303.0

This happens ALL THE TIME in family court.  

Which again was created to force sterilizations in the 1920's as part of the eugenics agenda. This is the agenda which Hitler used to help murder millions of "unfit parasites". What makes you think this anti-government, anti-constitutional faux-court system is any different?

One of the partners takes out their hurt feelings by hurting their old partner like never signing divorce papers.  So there's thousands of other cases just like this one, only they've included a new parameter, an association with oathkeepers.  Oathkeepers will probably get that removed, but all the other allegations still stand.

Once they admit that the inclusion of oathkeepers was wrong then the faux-state, faux-court system is guily of kidnapping, child abuse (removing a 16 hour old baby from its parents is abuse), child endangerment, and maybe 100 other crimes. If thousands of other babies get snatched for Dyncorp this way then people should be aware of what a clear and present danger to national security this eugenics system infiltrating our country is.

I really hope they have some family member they can trust to have guardian status and have already taken Alex Jones advice, otherwise they're going to have a very tough time getting their baby back.  

I really hope the Nazi eugenecists realize hat the previous Nazis were all sold out by the Queen bitches. No one wins in the New World Order, once they complete one step in their insane pyramid, they trash those that helped them. That is exactly what Churchill and Truman under the orders of the royals and banksters did in Dresden. George Orwell and Kurt Vonnegut came out of Dresden and that is what drove them to expose the end games by these eugenecist freaks.

No one has explained why the father cannot have custody of his own child.

No one has explained why the baby was kidnapped at the hospital.

No one has explained why they did not give custody to a family guardian from the beginning even if there was a perceived issue.

[ImpeachBarrySoetoro]

Video from protest... The chief of police and director of security for the hospital came to Mr. Irish and said if he stepped on their property he would be arrested for trespassing.  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpJUgkIOx5o

[Sailor]

I would strongly encourage that all who read this take a moment and contact all the "authorities" in this case. I have done so. It is the constant pressure that will make the difference. For all those who are believers I would also infuse the action with Prayer and fasting. This story like the Gay kid in New York that jumped off the bridge is really getting to me. I am committed and focused. This kid is going back to it's parents. The dehumanization is over. We have gone this far and no more. We have to in a deep way from our hearts say NO MORE    Drudge is something of a let down in this case. Maybe he will link to the World net daily story.    

Contact New Hampshire Governor Lynch:

(603) 271-2121
email form: http://www4.egov.nh.gov/governor/goveforms/comments.asp


Contact New Hampshire DCWY

Telephone (603) 271-4711
Toll Free Number (800) 852-3345
Fax Number (603) 271-4729

Email found at: http://apps.dhhs.nh.gov/EmailContact/EmailContact.aspx?a=adoption&b=Foster%20Care%20and%20Adoption%20Services

Contact Concord Hospital

(603) 225-2711

Toll Free Instate: (800) 327-0464

Email found at: https://www.concordhospital.org/contact/feedback.php

[ImpeachBarrySoetoro]

Email this story - http://www.infowars.com/government-seizes-newborn-baby-over-political-beliefs-of-parents/

to drudge@drudgereport.com

[donnay]

This is also a voting year!  Publicity of this will definitely put a damper on his future if he doesn't act, swiftly.  I reminded him of this too!

To contact these people:

Johnathan Irish and Stephine Janvrin
411 Campground Road
Northwood, NH  03621

Janvrin6228@gmail.com

Correction on the address:  it is 41 Campground Road

[Irobot]

Grab your mics and join us NOW  for the 12160 ROUNDTABLE - Topic Discussion! We will be discussing the issues related to the Government Agents Seizing an (alleged) Oath Keeper's baby ... discussion starts @ 9PM EST over at  http://12160.info/broadcasting ...Hope to see you there!

[ImpeachBarrySoetoro]

CONCORD, N.H. -- A New Hampshire couple said their newborn girl was taken from them by the state because of the father's involvement in a national group that's against unrestrained federal authority. The state says he's accused of hitting the mother and abusing her children.

Stephanie Taylor and Johnathan Irish of Epsom, who protested with others outside of Concord Hospital on Friday, say their baby was taken into custody. Taylor says her two sons were removed from her care in 2009 because of abuse by a caretaker.

Irish denies any abuse. He said court paperwork cited his involvement with the Oath Keepers.

Child protection matters are confidential. But Lorraine Bartlett with the Division For Children Youth And Families said a child cannot be removed based on a parent's affiliation with an organization.

http://www.wmur.com/news/25340240/detail.html

[ImpeachBarrySoetoro]

John Irish said in an interview last night he and his fiance went "off the grid" to a friends house and were followed by two black pick up trucks, one with a vanity plate of &BOSOX&.

Part about the black pick up trucks is at 16:35 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq-_SRVTp9Y

[Freeski]

WTF is with the hospital security reading a customer the riot act?

[lamourlady]

the interview starts at the 4:30 mark on the first video

Alex Jones - John Irish & Stephanie Taylor - State thugs, snatch Newborn Over Political Beliefs 1_3!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2Oz8Ys8hMc

Alex Jones - John Irish & Stephanie Taylor - State thugs, snatch Newborn Over Political Beliefs 2_3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ErFt0LzA9I

Alex Jones - John Irish & Stephanie Taylor - State thugs, snatch Newborn Over Political Beliefs 3_3!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCJvHdGANXg

Bawling as I listen to this young lady.  I have no words.  Poor Alex has to try and console while also spelling out the truth about what has happened.  I know that this has probably happened a thousand times under cover but the fact that this event is public makes it all the more important to not allow it to become a precedent.   I'm spreading these video links to as many as I can.

[ImpeachBarrySoetoro]

John Irish said in an interview last night he and his fiance went "off the grid" to a friends house and were followed by two black pick up trucks, one with a vanity plate of &BOSOX&.

Part about the black pick up trucks is at 16:35 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq-_SRVTp9Y

Does anyone think these trucks could have been feds spying on them?

[lamourlady]

Does anyone think these trucks could have been feds spying on them?

Why not?  John Irish said in the interview that there were 6 cop cars, from 3 different towns, waiting for them when they got home in which Alex mentions that they are more than likely being watched.

[Dig]

The Dyncorp child sex slavery ring run by the Bilderberger nutcases has always dealt with exposure to their agenda with an iron fist:

COULD THIS SCENARIO BE POSSIBLE? DOES THE DYNCORP CHILD SEX SLAVERY RING SNATCH PEOPLE'S CHILDREN AS AN INSTITUTIONALIZED TECHNIQUE OF TERRORIZING THE PUBLIC? DOES THE DYNCORP CHILD SEX SLAVERY RING ASSASSINATE PEOPLE LIKE GEORGIA SENATOR NANCY SCHAFER? DID CPS HAVE A MOTIVE BECUASE SHE EXPOSED THE CPS CHILD SNATCHING RING? No matter what the details are of this case (whether an SPLC/ADL/DHS/Chertoff provocation or a bona fide act of wholesale insanity), everyone needs to understand what Nancy was uncovering...

Report of Georgia Senator Nancy Schaefer on Corruption in Child Protective Services.

http://fightcps.com/2008/02/29/report-of-georgia-senator-nancy-schaefer-on-cps-corruption/


http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2005_06/senate/district50.htm

CPS Warrior Nancy Schaefer Gunned Down

Infowars.com
March 29, 2010

From the Associated Press:

State investigators say the husband of former state Senator Nancy Schaefer shot his wife before turning the gun on himself. The couple’s bodies were found in their north Georgia home Friday. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation conducted autopsies on the Schaefer’s Saturday—investigators say all evidence points to the deaths as a murder-suicide. The bodies of Nancy and Bruce Schaefer, 73 and 74 years old respectively, were found by their daughter at the couple’s home in Clarkesville. Nancy Schaefer was a two-term state Senator representing Georgia’s 50th district. She lost her seat in 2008. Schaefer was also a candidate for mayor of Atlanta, Georgia lieutenant governor and governor of the state.

The corporate media does not bother to mention that Schaefer exposed the abuses of CPS and the international child sex slavery ring.

Appearing on the Alex Jones Show last May, Schaefer detailed how CPS is involved in child trafficking rings (see video below). After watching Schaefer’s interview with Jones, if you think Schaefer was involved in a suicide pact with her husband, you may also be interested in a famous bridge for sale in Brooklyn.

Nancy Schaefer on Alex Jones: "CPS Criminality"

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw4xFKIYTzM&feature=player_embedded

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt7VPpkQ0co&feature=player_embedded

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0qV4JVoKYg&feature=player_embedded

Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y53U6JlvEhw&feature=player_embedded

Nancy Schaefer exposes the EVIL CPS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TcDTJlPWbE&feature=player_embedded

More: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=105660.0


What are Suspicious Activity Reports? SARs exposed!
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=187539.0

More evidence Bush=Soetoro: Pentagon revives Rumsfeld-era domestic spying unit
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=175838.0

Free Speech Killing DISCLOSE ACT Passes House by Invoking "Martial Law Rule"
Critics on both the left and the right say the act will disable grassroots political voices, including Tea Party movement
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=176680.0

[Guns Equal Freedom]

I honestly don't know what side to believe.

[Guns Equal Freedom]

I might not be a genius, but something doesn't add up.

If your wife wants a divorce, and you "refuse to sign the divorce papers", could that possibly mean, "the guy thinks it is his kid that was just born"?

This story gets more interesting everyday.

[Lisbeth]

What about her two other children.  I would be fighting to get them back before considering having another child!  I think there are important elements missing from this story.

[EvadingGrid]

Search terms
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=188946.0

[citizenx]

That his being a member of Oath Keepers was even listed on the order means the whole thing needs to be examined and investigated by the state immediately -- like yesterday!  That's the bottom line.  Whether the other reasons listed are valid is not even really important at the moment.  The governor or whomever needs to officially look into this case to make sure this was not merely politically motivated.  Until the governor's office at least concedes to officially investigate this matter, people need to keep protesting, emailing, calling etc.

This is a gross injustice, and will still be an injustice even after the state returns this child becasue of the precedent this would have set, if for no other reason.

Until such action is taken by the authorities, there is no reason to believe this isn't a politically motivated attack on the civil liberties of this family, Oath Keepers and the people of New Hampshire and America.

[JINXT333]

Agreed there is alot of elements from this case that are suspicious.However,you must take into deep consideration the FACT that these localized foreign terrorist bodies that operate with in the intelligence community and other federal agencies have proven time and time again to be habitual liars, they have consistently used/abused their agencies power to break the will and spirit of our god given freedom they are attempting to destroy everything that we love...our children.That is why this case is so important,it is getting public attention and they are testing our will,I repeat they are testing our will! I cannot stress the importance of this case,it is a very sophisticated psyop they want to see if we are going to ALLOW this to happen.We CANNOT AFFORD to lose momentum on this case so please fellow brothers and sisters do not allow those parasitic maggots in a worms ass to win this battle WE HAVE TO WIN! I rarely comment on the boards I am screen writer that lives in los angeles and I am trying to get some of my associates to get some media attn on it.regardless, if we spread it long enough they WILL CAPITULATE. I PROMISE YOU THAT! This is just a test on us.Please fellow patriots try and get Alex to make this #1 Google search it is a very powerfull tool we have in the information war arsenal and WE MUST use this tool as long as we have it which will not be around for much longer.god bless US and god bless THE CHILDREN OF THE REVOLUTION!

[Guns Equal Freedom]

What about her two other children.  I would be fighting to get them back before considering having another child!  I think there are important elements missing from this story.

This is why I always wait for the rest of the story to come out.

Also, George 4 Title has a long history on youtube, pretty interesting stuff, very entertaining, grab some beer and popcorn and look up George 4 Title on youtube.

[Sailor]

I might not be a genius, but something doesn't add up.

If your wife wants a divorce, and you "refuse to sign the divorce papers", could that possibly mean, "the guy thinks it is his kid that was just born"?

This story gets more interesting everyday.

My suggestion is that we stay focused on the theft of the baby. Clearly our society is in decline and these people like many have many personal matters that is between them and God.  The third wheel here is the State. The raising of children is proper to the parents. With the exception of horrific abuse this always is the case because of the natural law. The State like in it's attempt to control the weather with Geo engineering (chemtrails) is way out of line here. The matter of the two other children is important. However the planning of the State is pure evil here. Clearly the baby was 16 hours old and the State knew they were stealing the child before hand. The document was written (like the patriot act before 9/11) and dropped just at the right moment. No? The Government claimed the couple harmed this new child in the document. In 16 hours? How so? So these people harmed the new baby in 16 hours and the State found out and acted by writing this document. Yeah ah... no way. The matter of the two other children has nothing to do with the new baby. If someone is guilty in America of breaking into a home they are not banned from ever entering another home because of the past theft. The Government has to prove harm to the new baby. The State can't say these people are icky so take the baby. Bottom line it appears these people were chosen for harassment with first the gun matter and then the theft of the new baby. The State is a bully they only go after people they think are weak and can be pushed around. Perhaps because these people have a lifestyle that makes them look weak they were targeted. I don't know. Maybe they are scum. Maybe they are saints. It doesn't matter really. They have rights! We need to be united in prayer and action for these people. Because an attack on the rights of one American is an attack on my rights and those of all our children.        
The temptation to chant "Jerry Jerry" and turn this into a Jerry springer show should be rejected.

[Guns Equal Freedom]

My favorite part about the whole story is, it took a "real news reporter" to basically look at the real document to see that the woman is still married to her husband, and by law they can kick you out of the hospital even if you claim you are the father of the kid.

Married couples only, what does the hospital really know who is who anyway?

[JINXT333]

Exactly I REFUSE to get into a debate about dotted I's and crossed T's of this case. I like many other see right thru the OBVIOUS nature of this act of evil.It is the principal of the matter.The bottom line is people is that they are sending all patriots a message cut and dry.SO PLEASE lets not get caught up in debate and I am by no means asking anyone to throw there critical thinking out the window.But on an instinctive level WE ALL KNOW what this case is REALLY about,and like I said before baby snatching scumbag filth have been proven to be habitual lairs and master manipulators time and time again.

[citizenx]

OK, but why take it away from the mother, regardless of who the father was?  And if they didn't consider Irish the father why was his affiliation with OK even relevant?  This all still stinks.

Legally,if she wasn't divorced the "husband" might still be considered the father of the child. In that case Irish had nothing to do with this whatsoever and needn't have been listed on the order at all.

Unless they have given custody to the legal father -- which does not appear to be the case --  they have actually violated his rights, too, whether he cares or not.

This is all rotten and needs to be investigated by he authorities.  Everybody wants to play armchair detective here, but this is a clear injustice and it is not too soon to come to the defense of a helpless newborn and a couple whose newborn son has literally been ripped from its mother's arms in a politically motivated attack on the free speech of its biological father.

This is really no time for Monday-morning quarterbacking IMO.

Here's the email I sent to the Governor:

"Cheyenne Irish has been removed from her parents ostensibly because, in part, her father is a member of Oath Keepers -- a peaceful and law-abiding association.  At the very least, an investigation should take place to make sure this child was was not removed from its parents without legitimate cause.  If it was, Cheyenne should be returned to her parents immediately.  This is a situation which demands your fullest attention as Governor of the state of New Hampshire, a state renowned for its part in the struggle by the original thirteen colonies for independence and freedom. No one's political beliefs should ever be used against them in this kind of tyrannical manner if this was the real rationale for this action.  The whole nation has an interest in this case as a precedent."

And BTW they kicked the mother out too just shortly after allowing authorities to steal her child apparently.  Was she even given needed medical treatment for a woman who had just given birth?

The hospitals' behavior was outrageous as well, but another issue for another day.

One more thing:  we do not have to wait for AJ to start using these search terms: Government Seizes Newborn.  Let's get the ball rolling.

[Guns Equal Freedom]

Exactly I REFUSE to get into a debate about dotted I's and crossed T's of this case. I like many other see right thru the OBVIOUS nature of this act of evil.It is the principal of the matter.The bottom line is people is that they are sending all patriots a message cut and dry.SO PLEASE lets not get caught up in debate and I am by no means asking anyone to throw there critical thinking out the window.But on an instinctive level WE ALL KNOW what this case is REALLY about,and like I said before baby snatching scumbag filth have been proven to be habitual lairs and master manipulators time and time again.

See, the only problem is, what makes The Oathkeepers different from groups like The Neo-Nazis, and The Klu Kux Klan?

They all have a militias with guns, they all practice free speech, but two of them are classified as "hate groups" by The Government, The Neo-Nazis, and The Klu Klux Klan.

And, to play Devil's Advocate, if somebody was trying to show "patriots who is boss", why wouldn't Child Protective Services go after those "patriots groups who practice hate"? And, they would make less people mad too, because people hate hate groups too.

[Satyagraha]

State takes infant, spurs protest
http://www.theunionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=State+takes+infant,+spurs+protest&articleId=3cd6180a-5ce6-4f58-9483-ef5ae2329cbc
By SHAWNE K. WICKHAM
New Hampshire Sunday News Staff
Saturday, Oct. 9, 2010



A baby girl was taken into state custody at Concord Hospital by child welfare officials on Thursday, just hours after she was born, according to her parents. And now the parents are at the center of an Internet-fueled fire storm over government intervention and parental rights.
In court paperwork, the state alleges the health and safety of the infant, named Cheyenne, was in "imminent danger" if she was left with her parents because of "a lengthy history of domestic violence" between them.

Johnathon Irish, 24, calls the allegations of domestic violence lies.
"They're using their false claims to take my daughter away," he said.

Irish said he and the baby's mother, Stephanie Taylor, have been flooded with messages of support and requests for interviews since an interview he did with a self-described "independent journalist" was posted on the oathkeepers.org website. By 5 p.m. yesterday, the audio recording of that interview had gotten more than 17,000 hits on YouTube and sparked a protest outside Concord Hospital.

Irish and Taylor stood at the hospital entrance yesterday, talking with about a half-dozen supporters who were alerted to their case by media and social media reports. Irish wore a "Don't Tread on Me" hat; both were still wearing their hospital wristbands from the baby's birth.
"It's not coming off until she's home," Taylor, who is 22, said tearfully.

Her baby girl was born shortly before midnight on Wednesday at Concord Hospital. And that's where the infant's parents say they were served the next afternoon with an "abuse and neglect petition" filed by the state Division of Children, Youth and Families.

Taylor said she doesn't know why the agency states in court documents that she twice last year reported to a state social worker that Irish had hurt her and that she feared for her life because he had a gun. "The only time he would put his hands on me was to give me a hug," she said.

In an affidavit supporting its actions, the DCYF also notes Irish's affiliation with Oath Keepers, which it describes as "a militia," and his purchase of "several different types of weapons including a rifle, handgun and Taser."

And that's what has sparked the outrage from Oath Keepers and others who see the case as the government intruding on constitutional rights. On its website, Oath Keepers describes itself as a "non-partisan association of currently serving military, veterans, peace officers, and firefighters who will fulfill the oath we swore to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, so help us God."

There will be a hearing in the case on Thursday in Rochester Family Court. And Irish said he expects the courtroom will be "packed with a bunch of tea partiers."

"This has gone viral overnight," he said.

DCYF asked for the case to be moved from family court in Concord to the family court in Dover, citing that court's familiarity with the family involved.
Their battle with DCYF dates back to January of last year, Taylor said, when the state welfare agency took her other two children, boys who are now 2 and 3, for alleged abuse and neglect.

The boys currently live with a foster family, and Irish said he was told baby Cheyenne will go to live with the same family for now.

DCYF is legally prohibited from discussing child welfare cases. A spokesman for the Department of Health and Human Services said it can't even confirm a child was taken into custody at Concord Hospital. But Concord police Lt. Keith Mitchell confirmed officers from his department were asked by both DCYF and Concord Hospital security to "stand by" during a "custody issue" on Thursday and again yesterday.

"We were there just to keep the peace, to make sure there were no issues between the parties involved," Mitchell said.
Mitchell said there are no criminal charges pending in the case from his department.

Taylor said she is seeking a divorce from her sons' father, who lives in Seabrook. But because she is still married to him, DCYF considers her husband to be the "legal father" of baby Cheyenne, according to the affidavit.

Irish said hospital staff "refused" to put his name on the baby's birth certificate unless Stephanie's husband signed off on it.
When two DCYF social workers on Thursday arrived at the Concord Hospital room where Irish and Taylor were staying with the baby, they were accompanied by four Concord police officers, according to Irish. He says one officer searched him against his will and confiscated his pocketknife and a lighter.

Under such emotional circumstances, Lt. Mitchell said, it would be appropriate for an officer to check to make sure someone involved did not have a weapon and to temporarily confiscate it if one was found.

"The last thing we want is for someone to get hurt," he said.

In its affidavit, DCYF cites "significant mental health and safety concerns" involving "all parents" that remain unaddressed. It also states that a termination of parental rights hearing was held on Sept. 14 in Rochester Family Court involving Taylor's other two children; a decision is pending.

DCYF says Taylor "has failed to recognize the impact of domestic violence in her life and the potential danger it poses to a newborn baby."

And it states that Irish "has not acknowledged any responsibility to date and remains a significant safety risk to an infant in his care."

The agency concluded that "the infant's health and safety is in imminent danger if left in the care of" either Taylor or Irish.

But for Irish and his supporters, the case is about something far different. "I want everyone and anyone to know that ... they're not going to demonize someone just because of their political outlooks on something and because they're a patriot and they're a Second Amendment supporter," Irish said. "That is not a reason to take someone's child, especially a newborn."

He said he'll fight "tooth and nail" for his rights. "I'm not quitting until my daughter's back in my arms ... and even after that I'm not going to quit," he said.

[Guns Equal Freedom]

OK, but why take it away from the mother, regardless of who the father was?  And if they didn't consider Irish the father why was his affiliation with OK even relevant?  This all still stinks.

Legally,if she wasn't divorced the "husband" might still be considered the father of the child. In that case Irish had nothing to do with this whatsoever and needn't have been listed on the order at all.

Unless they have given custody to the legal father -- which does not appear to be the case --  they have actually violated his rights, too, whether he cares or not.

This is all rotten and needs to be investigated by he authorities.  Everybody wants to play armchair detective here, but this is a clear injustice and it is not too soon to come to the defense of a helpless newborn and a couple whose newborn son has literally been ripped from its mother's arms in a politically motivated attack on the free speech of its biological father.

I did not know this, but in some states women are tested for drugs after the pregnancy, maybe even before the pregnancy too.

[Satyagraha]

See, the only problem is, what makes The Oathkeepers different from groups like The Neo-Nazis, and The Klu Kux Klan?

They all have a militias with guns, they all practice free speech, but two of them are classified as "hate groups" by The Government, The Neo-Nazis, and The Klu Klux Klan.

And, to play Devil's Advocate, if somebody was trying to show "patriots who is boss", why wouldn't Child Protective Services go after those patriots groups who practice hate? And, they would make less people mad too, because people hate hate groups too.

Oathkeepers is NOT a militia.

http://www.oathkeepers.org

Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of currently serving military, reserves, National Guard, veterans, Peace Officers, and Fire Fighters who will fulfill the Oath we swore, with the support of like minded citizens who take an Oath to stand with us, to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, so help us God. Our Oath is to the Constitution.

[EvadingGrid]

Oathkeepers is NOT a militia.

Yes, such blinding ignorance is an outright lie.

[citizenx]

There has been no mention of recent drug test anywhere.  Honestly, its like you are grasping at straws to see things from the state's twisted point-of-view.

WTH, guns?

[Satyagraha]

Couple: State took our baby
Libertarians turn out for protest
http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/219670/couple-state-took-our-baby


Concord Police Sgt. Steven Smagula hands Johnathon Irish a letter from Concord Hospital banning Irish from hospital property except for emergency services while Irish protested at the corner of Langley Parkway and Pleasant Street; Friday, October 8, 2010. Protesters joined Johnathan Irish and Stephanie Janvrin of Northwood outside of Concord Hospital after New Hampshire DCYF took the couple's daughter into custody on Thursday, hours after she was born at Concord Hospital. Irish claims that the state acted because he is a member of the political group "The Oath Keepers." Court records show an ongoing investigation into charges that Irish abused Taylor and her two-year-old child.

By Daniel Barrick / Monitor staff
October 9, 2010

An Epsom couple says state social workers seized their newborn baby hours after her birth because of the father's affiliation with an organization that opposes government tyranny. State officials, however, cited domestic violence and child abuse allegations against the baby's father in taking her into state custody.

The issue turned the parents, Johnathan Irish and Stephanie Taylor, into instant celebrities in the online libertarian community. By mid afternoon, about 20 people who had never met the couple gathered at Concord Hospital to protest what they termed the state's unconstitutional interference in a family matter. None claimed to know anything about government's allegations that Irish had beaten his fiancee or her young children, but they said
they were outraged that the affidavit supporting the taking of his newborn mentioned Irish's association with a group called the Oath Keepers. The group's website describes it as an affiliation of current and former military and law enforcement members who promise to resist totalitarian actions by the government.

Irish said that on Thursday, one day after Taylor gave birth to their daughter, a group of police officers and state social workers took her from them. He said he and Taylor did not know where their daughter had been taken.

"She's either in the nursery there or in a foster home," said Taylor, who was on hand with Irish to greet protesters and grant interviews.

But according to an affidavit provided to Irish by the state Division for Children, Youth and Families, state officials took the child because of Irish's long record of violence and abuse. According to the affidavit, a judge determined that Irish abused Taylor's two other children. She is still married to the father of those children, though Taylor said yesterday that her husband has refused to accept her divorce petition for the past two years.

The affidavit also says that the police in Rochester report a "lengthy history of domestic violence" between Taylor and Irish, and that she accused him of choking and hitting her on more than one occasion. According to the document, Irish failed to complete a domestic violence course as ordered by the state, and that a hearing was held last month to terminate Taylor's parental rights over her two older children.

Taylor "has failed to recognize the impact of domestic violence in her life and the potential danger it poses to a newborn baby," the affidavit reads. "Mr. Irish has not acknowledged any responsibility to date and remains a significant safety risk to an infant in his care. . . . Without the intervention of the court, the infant will be at risk of harm."

Irish, 24, said in an interview yesterday that he had never abused his fiancee or her other children. He said he was unemployed and collected disability because he is blind in his left eye from a childhood accident. He said that Taylor suffers from "stress-induced seizure disorder" and that complications during her pregnancy required him to tend to her almost constantly. He said he has no lawyer, though a hearing in the matter has been scheduled for next week.

The affidavit also states that Irish is "associated with a militia known as the Oath Keepers and had purchased several different types of weapons including a rifle, handgun and Taser."

It's that sentence that riled up Irish and his allies yesterday, who saw it as proof that he was being persecuted for his political beliefs.

"They're saying that is the reason they're taking my daughter," Irish said.

Most of the couple's supporters shared that interpretation - even if they knew nothing about Irish's legal record.

"All I heard was that a baby was kidnapped, literally kidnapped, because the father posted on an online forum," said Ofer Nave, a Manchester man who did not know Irish or Taylor but described himself as active in "pro-liberty" causes. He said he heard about the protest from a friend, who likely heard about it through Facebook.

As for allegations that Irish had abused his fiancee's children, Nave said: "Maybe he's not that great a guy. Maybe he has a record. But just because the government says it's so, I don't believe it. The fact that there are documents about it is meaningless. But what they did is no different if I kidnapped that baby."

State and police officials declined to discuss the matter yesterday, citing privacy concerns.

"It's a juvenile issue, so I can't comment," said Lt. Keith Mitchell of the Concord Police Department.

A spokeswoman for the state Division for Children, Youth and Families said all child protection matters are confidential under New Hampshire statute.

A message on Concord Hospital's voicemail yesterday cited privacy regulations in declining to answer questions about the case.

About two hours into the protest yesterday, two Concord police officers handed Irish and Taylor a letter from the hospital's chief of security telling them that they were not welcome on hospital grounds unless they required emergency services. As the officers walked away, some of the protesters shouted taunts at them.

"Are you proud of what you're doing?" one called out.

Such support extended beyond Concord yesterday. In fact, the couple quickly found themselves a cause celebre on websites such as Global Political Awakening, Militant Libertarian and Truth is Treason.

Infowars.com, a website run by radio host Alex Jones, who focuses on conspiratorial theories behind what he terms the "New World Order," posted an account of Irish and Taylor's story. Within minutes, it attracted dozens of comments from readers offering support for the couple. Jones also interviewed the couple on his show yesterday.

"This is Nazi Germany crap that's what this is," wrote one commenter, Robininthehood. "The camps are coming next if you let this slide."

"What this comes down to is: you will no longer be able to just breed. Once you have the kid, they will take it away," wrote another commenter.

On the Oath Keepers website the group's founder, Stewart Rhodes, issued a statement in support of Irish and Taylor.

"If true, then this is as bad, and in fact worse, than any of the violations of liberty that our Declaration of Independence lists as the reasons for our forefathers taking up arms in our Revolution and for separating from England," Rhodes wrote. "We no longer have freedom at all if this is allowed to be done. And we will not let it stand."

The internet played a big role in rallying support for the couple. A Facebook page dedicated to the couple spurred the 20 or so protesters at the hospital yesterday. Many held signs, and conversational references to the Nazis and Stalin-era Russia were common. Someone brought poster board and markers for sign-making; one man held a sign that read "Infant Political Prisoner."

A woman who only identified herself as Tiffany held a sign that read "I am an Oathkeeper. Are you gonna take my kids too?"

Tiffany said she had joined the group only yesterday morning, after hearing of Irish's story.

"This is supposed to be America, not Nazi Germany," said Tiffany. "You can't have your children stolen."

Amanda Biondolillo, a Concord woman who came with her young daughter, said she didn't think the state should get involved in family issues at all, even if there is reason to suspect abuse.

"The family should be left to resolve it on their own," Biondolillo said. "Or private enterprise - private companies can contact the family and say, 'We heard you were hitting your kids. Can you stop that?' "

Brad Guida, an Epsom man who said he was Irish and Taylor's landlord, said the couple had been model tenants since they began renting from him in February.

"He's a very honorable person who loves his country," Guida said. "And I've watched the state and the police systematically hammer him."

But the vast majority of protesters did not know Irish or Taylor, thought they said they were familiar with similar struggles.

"We've got Nazis in our airports," said David Oliver, an Exeter man. "They're restricting our movement, trying to chill everybody by stealing babies."

(Daniel Barrick can be reached at 369-3322 or dbarrick@cmonitor.com.)

[Satyagraha]

Couple Say NH Took Baby, Paperwork Cites Father
http://wbztv.com/wireapnewsnh/Couple.say.state.2.1954819.html

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) ― A New Hampshire couple says their newborn girl was taken from them by the state because of the father's involvement in a national group that's against unrestrained federal authority. The state says he's accused of hitting the mother and abusing her children.

Stephanie Taylor and Johnathan Irish of Epsom, who protested with others outside of Concord Hospital on Friday, say their baby was taken into custody. Taylor says her two sons were removed from her care in 2009 because of abuse by a caretaker.

Irish denies any abuse. He said court paperwork cited his involvement with the Oath Keepers.

Child protection matters are confidential. But Lorraine Bartlett with the Division For Children Youth And Families said a child cannot be removed based on a parent's affiliation with an organization.