What it Will Take to Restore America: Identify the Enemy

[citizenx]

Wednesday, September 29,
What it Will Take to Restore America: Identify the Enemy
Activist Post


Never in the history of our nation have we faced so great a danger to our liberties, to our way of life, to our Republic. We now face a fifth column, an enemy so evil and so desperate, that no lie, no form of trickery, no deception is too great for them; to them the ends justify the means. Many conservatives have labeled these enemies of the Republic as communists.  Although one of their own did invent the concept of communism, they are not communists. Many conservatives have labeled these traitors to America as socialists; this too is a fallacy, and though these people utilize socialism as a weapon as they have with communism, they are not really socialists either. Socialism was invented by them, promoted by them, and tweaked to its current form by them; but it too is only a means to an end.


There is no doubt that the enemy I am referring to is totalitarian in the extreme. They are the quintessential enemies of the Republic, of the Constitution, of liberty and freedom as defined in the Constitution of these United States of America. In fact, these people are the enemies of all of mankind. Their aim is to destroy liberty, to destroy freedom, to destroy this Republic and the principles of its Bill of Rights and the Constitution that guards our liberty and freedoms. These people are the most tyrannical, the most evil humans that have ever set foot on this planet to date.



Who then am I referring too? What is their political identity? What are their goals and their ambitions? I am referring to the GLOBALISTS, a breed of human animal so vicious, so evil, so tyrannical they make Adolf Hitler look like a school boy. As a matter of fact, they funded, supported, aided and abetted Hitler's rise to power, just as they did with Mao, Pol Pot, the Russian Bolsheviks, Kim Il Sung, Kim Jung Il, Yasser Arafat, The Muslim Brotherhood, The Shah of Iran Reza Palavi, and a host of other tin horn dictators all over Africa, the Middle East, Asia, and South America. They are in fact fascists, but a very different form of fascism than we have been taught to recognize.


Who then are these villans? They are the Global Elite, the stockholders of the largest international banks in the world, and the largest corporations in the world. They are also the stockholders and board members of the Federal Reserve Board, and the Federal Reserve Bank. They are both the well known and those not so well known: the Rothschilds family, the Rockefellers (specifically David Rockefeller), The Royal Family of England, The Royal Family of Spain, The Royal Family of The Netherlands, most of the surviving Royals of Europe are in this Cabal of Evil. Also the oldest Banking Families of Europe, America, and Asia.


The Groups that do the bidding of these Global Elites are the Committee of 300, The Club of Rome, The Bilderberg Group, the Council on Foreign Relations, The Trilateral Commission, The Rockefeller Foundation, The United Nations, as well as other groups both political and social. The world leaders, businessmen, intelligentsia, government organizations and their bureaucrats are their lackeys. The unions are their lackeys, The Fortune 500 and Fortune 1000 corporations are their lackeys. The mainline universities and most of the mainline think-tanks are their lackeys.  Examples would be the Rand Corporation, The CIA, and most every International Intelligence Agency, in America, Europe, and the West, to include Israel.


If we are to restore America to a place of individual rights, civil liberties, and the freedom to pursue our happiness, the identities of the criminal cabal must continue to be revealed.  We should continue to a shine the light of truth into their shadowy corners.

link (to article, including sources!):
http://www.activistpost.com/2010/09/what-it-will-take-to-restore-america.html

[Bacchanea]

Agree with the article, but it only preachers to the choir so it is weak. It is not going to convince anyone else of this danger because the article does not present any "proof" in its assertions. The general population, even the most intelligent, are so indoctrinated into logical positivism that they cannot possibly connect the dots that the globalists have so ingeniously concealed from view. They are not only compartmentalized in their lives, but in their thinking processes. From their point of view, this article is a general overview that reveals some guys false fears and paranoia of a global cabal - it fails to posit a thesis and to prove that thesis logically. That makes the article a fine candidate for ridicule. Paul Joseph Watson's articles on the other hand are written in a way so that they can convince even these mytho-logical minds. And he has helped the infowars tremendously in that way. However, because they still cannot connect seemingly associated dots, they still never get the big picture. Maybe because they don't teach poetry in schools anymore or they teach it as if it is something irrelevant to science...

[citizenx]

link (to article, including sources!):
http://www.activistpost.com/2010/09/what-it-will-take-to-restore-america.html

That's why I suggest people go to the link to check out the sources themselves.  The original article is amply annotated and supported.

I was a college English instructor.  I look for those things, also, in an essay of this sort.

[Bacchanea]

Very good. I am going to post this to my "cabal of Conservative friends" and see what they say. I don't think they would even bother with the links. They would read the first paragraph and their eyes would glaze over either through boredom or rage. The article would do better if it included quotes within it, rather than forcing the reader to do work. (not that I am opposed to work, but most people are too busy or can't be bothered).

[citizenx]

OK, let me know what feedback you receive from your "cabal".

I've been thinking about joining one of those myself.

[Bacchanea]

Be prepared for a lot of hate. I rarely post Infowars articles directly. (one guys aptly put it: "Alex Jones is an idiot"). That will automatically disinterest 95% of the group. So, I always post original sources of articles. Luckily, since Drudge has been posting prison planet articles, they are less likely to give me crap about Infowars.

My group is actually a DL at work at a very large and influential corporation so these people are no dummies. I am astounded at the depth of their ignorance and their apparently willingness to continue to bathe themselves in it. They cannot get over the left/right paradigm, despite everything I have offered to them and everything going on the country/world these days. They refuse to even entertain that the power structure goes way beyond Washington, and beyond the past 1 year. While the elite have been busy with their 5 year, 10 year, even 100 year plans, these people still are in reaction mode at the news of the day as if events in the universe and politics are spontaneously created out of various temporal causes. The idea that a certain elite have been manipulating humanity for centuries is utterly foreign to them because they have been brainwashed in regards to their true identity as human beings. Okay, I am rambling on...

I will let you know, but  I have a feeling they will ignore the post - that is what usually happens if the article I post has references..

[citizenx]

Be prepared for a lot of hate. I rarely post Infowars articles directly. (one guys aptly put it: "Alex Jones is an idiot"). That will automatically disinterest 95% of the group. So, I always post original sources of articles.

My group is actually a DL at work at a very large and influential corporation so these people are no dummies. I am astounded at the depth of their ignorance and their apparently willingness to continue to bathe themselves in it. They cannot get over the left/right paradigm, despite everything I have offered to them and everything going on the country/world these days. They refuse to even entertain that the power structure goes way beyond Washington, and beyond the past 1 year. While the elite have been busy with their 5 year, 10 year, even 100 year plans, these people still are in reaction mode at the news of the day as if events in the universe and politics are spontaneously created out of various temporal causes. The idea that a certain elite have been manipulating humanity for centuries is utterly foreign to them because they have been brainwashed in regards to their true identity as human beings. Okay, I am rambling on...

Actually, I quite understand.  If you are really hip to what is happening the world really moves at a snail's pace, a geological pace.  The elite with their hundred or more year plans probably see things this way as well.  Most people are so distracted by the matrix they think things are actually moving very fast.  It is frustrating.  

Seriously, though, other forum members have suggested I branch out (in a nice way). As soon as I can find a suitable group I intend to.

Yes, this essay is not necessarily aimed at the real novice investigator or someone who has been awake for some time and already knows who is at the top of the real world power structure.  I would say this is aimed more at people who have just recently "woken up" -- at least partially, but are still kind of in the dark as to who the real enemy is.  I think many of the people on the forum would already agree with the author, certainly many of the senior posters.  No, it's not a real news flash to them.  And, no, it is not necessarily going to jolt somebody still slumbering, trapped in the whole left-right paradigm.

I don't know if it is appropriate for your "cabal", but nevertheless I'd be interested to hear the results of your experiment.

[Bacchanea]

You are right - it is fine for those who are already waking up. I love the links to the Brotherhood...great articles.

Did you write this article?

As a "student" of literature, you know how deep the rabbit hole goes. I studied classical literature and philosophy in grad school - most people consider that a "useless" education. How utterly upside down that thinking is. I am sure you are familiar with Hesiod's Theogony...and the New World Order goes even further back than that. The Infowars needs to also "take back" literature and philosophy - get it back on the curriculum. These days, kids are just not exposed to this in school...at least not the classics and not in the way they should be read.

[citizenx]

You are right - it is fine for those who are already waking up. I love the links to the Brotherhood...great articles.
Did you write this article?

No.  But, I think it is well-written.

I am sure you are familiar with Hesiod's Theogony...and the New World Order goes even further back than that.

Euhemerus

Euhemerization

Hesiod is a genealogy all right.

All those kings and queens back then (as now?) traced their lineage back to mythological figures.  Even if you don't believe in the reality of those literary figures, this genealogical project might still have been tied to political power (the royal houses of the various city-states of ancient Greece).  This would be a very interesting study.  How might he various mythological figures of Hesiod relate to the royal houses of the day, and how might it have been a propaganda tool -- like Shakespeare in his day, for instance?  Actually, this does bring up a number of interesting questions.

Literature, like any other aspect of culture is a two-edged sword. It can overthrow and it can reinforce political power.  I am actually very much interested in these things.  Even if Hesiod isn't my normal cup of tea.

[Bacchanea]

Okay, 2 responses from the conservative "cabal". I paraphrase.

1. Copied lyrics from REM's End of the World as We Know It


2. Responds that he lumps these globalists in with the democrats.

[Bacchanea]

Literature, like any other aspect of culture is a two-edged sword. It can overthrow and it can reinforce political power.  I am actually very much interested in these things.  Even if Hesiod isn't my normal cup of tea.

The most interesting thing about the Theogony is the part about Prometheus who "stole" fire from the gods to give to mankind. Zeus was not too happy about that and punished Prometheus by making mankind suffer with woman a.k.a. lies/matrix/illusion.

[citizenx]

Okay, 2 responses from the conservative "cabal". I paraphrase.

1. Copied lyrics from REM's End of the World as We Know It


2. Responds that he lumps these globalists in with the democrats.

Wow, that is sad.

I think the mural from the Denver Airport does give the article that creepy apocalyptic vibe.  Perhaps, it's too much.

As for associating these globalists with the Dems, it is sometimes true but completely missing the point.  Most of them are foreigners who don't care at all about our political system, except to play it from boths sides as they tried to do for instance in our Civil War.

[citizenx]

The most interesting thing about the Theogony is the part about Prometheus who "stole" fire from the gods to give to mankind. Zeus was not too happy about that and punished Prometheus by making mankind suffer with woman a.k.a. lies/matrix/illusion.

Yes, Eve/Lilith/Pandora etc... It's not just Judaeo-Christian religion is it?

I was thinking more of the genealogy of the titans and gods.  Many of the royal houses of ancient Greece tied their genealogies to them.

For instance, some interesting things to look at: the Orientalizing Period (Hesiod's era), the histories of Herodotus which stretch back to that era, Candaules, Omphales, Heracles, the Hercalids of Lydia (royal family of ancient Greece).

Some of the royal families still claim descent from figures in classical antiquity which are tied in turn to mythological figures.

[Bacchanea]

Yes, Eve/Lilith/Pandora etc... It's not just Judaeo-Christian religion is it?

I was thinking more of the genealogy of the titans and gods.  Many of the royal houses of ancient Greece tied their genealogies to them.

Well, yes, of course. And all paid tribute to Delphi to insure that the prophecies were in their favor .

[citizenx]

Bacchanea, I just went back and read your very third post about Herodotus and the story of Gyges.  I can see you know your classics already.  Bravo.  (I'm a member of the classics honors society myself.) It's refreshing.  I think there are a few other closet classicists around here.  Excellent.

And yes, all visited the priestess at Delphi, a woman, to get their cryptic "prophecy" before making any major decision or starting any major project.  The elite of the society, that is.  Despite the division ancient Greece into many different city states, this may have been a project to control things around the peninsula "behind the scenes" as it were.  The oracle may have been a piece of exquisite political theater.

I do not doubt for a moment more was being passed on there than the products of some vapors from the earth. 

[citizenx]

OK, for the unconvinced, though:

30% of the earth's non-warter surface has been mortgaged to the Rothschilds under the Global Environmental Fund since 1992.

source:
http://euro-med.dk/?p=13656

And, the queen of England owns one-sixth of the Earth's nonwater surface outright (free and clear).

These are facts.

If anybody thinks these folks aren't at the top of the foodchain globally (the very top in all likelihood), they are really fooling themselves.

That's almost half of the Earth right there.  And that is just real estate.

[citizenx]

And what kind of things are the Rothschilds up to these days?

Rothschild family-->CARE International (CIA Front and Int'l. Terror Org.)

Edouard Etienne de Rothschild
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Édouard Etienne Alphonse de Rothschild (born December 27, 1957 in Neuilly-sur-Seine, Hauts-de-Seine) is a businessman and part of the French branch of the prominent Rothschild family. He is the son of Guy de Rothschild (1909–2007) and Marie-Hélène van Zuylen van Nyevelt (1927–1996).


Édouard de Rothschild studied law in France and in 1985 graduated with an M.B.A. degree from the Stern School of Business at New York University.

In 1982, he married Mathilde Alexe Marie Christiane Coche de la Ferté (b.1952), former wife of Sir Valentine Abdy, 6th Bt.. The marriage ended in divorce and he remarried in 1991 to Arielle Marie Mallard (b.1963). His children are:

David de Rothschild (twin)
Ariella de Rothschild (twin)
Ferdinand de Rothschild


In addition to owning a share in the Château Lafite vineyard, in July 2003, Édouard de Rothschild was made head of Rothschild & Cie Banque, the Paris based bank he founded in 1987 with his half-brother David René de Rothschild and cousin Eric de Rothschild. He stepped down in June 2004 saying he would remain involved as the non-executive chairman of the bank's supervisory board while taking on projects unrelated to finance. Until May 2005, he was a member of the Supervisory Board at Imerys S.A., a company the family had been a majority or significant shareholder in since 1880.

An avid horse enthusiast, Édouard de Rothschild competes both nationally and internationally in equestrian show jumping. He inherited the Haras de Meautry stud farm in Toques in Basse-Normandie where he breeds thoroughbred race horses. His involvement in racing led to his 2004 election as President of the French horse racing association, "France Galop."

In January 2005, Édouard de Rothschild invested 20 million euros for a 37% majority shareholding in the French newspaper Libération. The left-wing daily was founded by philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre and Maoist militant journalist Serge July in 1973 but in recent years has sustained substantial losses.

Édouard de Rothschild's wife, Arielle, is the vice-president of the humanitarian organization CARE France and represents her country on the Board of Directors of CARE International.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edouard_Etienne_de_Rothschild

CARE International (CIA Front and Int'l. Terror Org.)-->Stuxnet cyberterror attack/Cyberstorm III Military Drill

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=188160.0

[Krateros]

There are some good points raised here.

Although I can think of no better description than “globalists” by outlook, “international bankers” by trade, and, using Tarpley’s term, the “axis of usury,” to the trained and sometimes overly sensitive ear, I would guess that these descriptors sound possibly euphemistic, rather too close to Josef Stalin’s disparaging term for Jews as "cosmopolites."  It is a touchy subject, granted, but Jews, high-finance Jews at any rate, have often been associated in the so called public mind with usury.  Even Karl Marx wrote a controversial and disputed (by Bernard Lazare, among others) treatise on that subject, and Nazis, of course, drank Viennese coffee all night and pontificated until dawn, in a series of competitive harangues, against the “commercial spirit" of supranational, that is, "supranational because intensely national," Jewry.

In my limited experience, then, while talking to others about important issues of the day, I have not learned how to overcome the perception, beneath the surface though it often runs, that those of us, myself included, who are either critical of, or actually against, the world’s central banks and their emerging system are not also (probably) closet or crypto anti-Semites.  It is almost as if, in that same public mind, Jews (Semitism) and usury are considered somehow inextricably and necessarily linked; as if, to resort to absurdity, anyone, especially a non-Jew, who calls for an audit of the Federal Reserve Bank might also secretly yearn to summon the Cossacks for a pogrom against not just Henry Paulson, Ben Bernanke and Lloyd Blankfein, for example, but also the Jewish tailor, his wife and children, struggling to make a living, who live two blocks down from any one of us.  It is absurd.  But sometimes, not always by choice, I deal in apparent absurdities.

[citizenx]

I don't think there is any germane conncetion between this uber-elite that the authors and I are referencing and any one ethnicity or religion.

The Rothschilds are but one of several prominent families among the most powerful in the world and they happen to be Jewish in origin.  But anti-semitism is definitley not where I was going here.

We can't say "hands off" the Rothschilds in terms of watching how they have manipulated world events for two hundred years though because they happen to be Jewish.  We can't let them play the "anti-semite card" and we can't let it be played for them.

[citizenx]

Actually, I don't think that is necessarily what Krateros was trying to do.  But, to me anyobdy that recognizes the right of Israel to exist is a Zionist in some sense.

In that sense, even I am a Zionist.  I am against the Zionist extremists in the U.S and Israel (Christian and Jewish) who defend everything the hard-line right wingers and the present apartheid government do.

But that really has nothing to do with the tipic at hand which is the global elite.  Zionist extremism is one of their pet projects to be sure, but has nothing to do with the ethic or reliogious composition of their milieu.

I really don't want to see this thread side-tracked (I didn't say hijacked) into a discussion of Jews, Judaism or anti-semitism.  Why don't we talk about the many Gentile members of the capstone like the Queen Biatch herself -- who owns one-sixth of the Earth's land surface outright, as well as holding a effective monopoly on the production of Uranium and you know one thing you (GE) can't make without Uranium, right?

Let's not leave these Royal S.O.B.'s out either -- the members of the Royal Houses of Europe -- also at the top and to which the Rothschilds have appended themselves through marriages and bought titles.

[seven_deviations]

First, you must teach people to think once again.  No amount of information or truth or facts will overcome brainwashing.  Only after you teach the public to start thinking critically can you then get them to look at the reality in front of them.

[Krateros]

I don't think there is any germane conncetion between this uber-elite that the authors and I are referencing and any one ethnicity or religion.

The author was careful to be inclusive of more than one race or ethnicity.  I wasn’t commenting directly upon his article.  I was relating that, in my experience, to use the term “globalist” (without caveats) is like applying a reflex hammer to a tendon: to avoid a knee-jerk, it is best to step out of the way of some people.  I was sharing notes.
  

The Rothschilds are but one of several prominent families among the most powerful in the world and they happen to be Jewish in origin.  But anti-semitism is definitley not where I was going here.

I understand.  I didn’t think that you were.  It was where I was going, or rather where I went, and for that I apologize.
  

We can't say "hands off" the Rothschilds in terms of watching how they have manipulated world events for two hundred years though because they happen to be Jewish.  We can't let them play the "anti-semite card" and we can't let it be played for them.

The game is sometimes subtle.  That is why I thought it might be worthwhile to discuss some of the subconscious factors which seem to arise, at times, in discussions of this type.  Anyway, generally speaking, I am no fan of anyone who robs the poor (even if “legally”) and works to subvert our nation’s sovereignty, regardless of their race, religion or shoe-size.  Enough said.  Over and out.

[citizenx]

seven_deviations,

Well, I taught Critical Thinking -- for one semester at least.  I was a college instructor.

How do you think we can/should go about this?

That's an interesting suggestion.

But I don't think people are completely without critical thinking skills.



Here is another thread I have started on exaclty that topic:

"American People To Corporate Media: We Don’t Trust Anything You Say"
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=188019

Krateros,

I think we are basically on the same page. Gotcha.

[Krateros]

Actually, I don't think that is necessarily what Krateros was trying to do ...

Krateros, I think we are basically on the same page. Gotcha.

Thank you.

[citizenx]

And what kind of things are the Rothschilds up to these days?

Rothschild family-->CARE International (CIA Front and Int'l. Terror Org.)

CARE International (CIA Front and Int'l. Terror Org.)-->Stuxnet cyberterror attack/Cyberstorm III Military Drill

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=188160.0

Oh, yeah.  And this to:

COREXIT/NALCO=Blackstone Group --> Lord Jacob Rothschild, advising member of the board

Lest we forget.

[Bacchanea]

In regards to critical thinking. The best place to do this is philosophy, which needs to be re-introduced to the general educational curriculum. Philosophy, at its best is devoted to the learning of the nature and history of thought. In addition, Greek and Latin should be introduced as well - to understand the nature of our speech is necessary for proper articulation of thought. All of these subject matters have been relegated to the closet of our educational system as "useless" - it is a travesty against our children and their minds.

[okay]

It's Israel. Not the commoners, the Government has taken over like ours. They are trying to rule World like ours. They run our Pentagon and Alex says the Pentagon wants us dead. So figure it out. Research who runs the Pentagon.

[birther truther tenther]

The number one enemy is the man/woman in the mirror.

We have ourselves to blame for the current mess.

Finger-pointing and Debating all day long whether it's the Jews, the Jesuits, the masons, the queen, the Bavarian Illuminati,  the Rothschilds, reptilians, or whatever entity you accuse of being the eye of the pyramid is, at the end of the day, is a complete waste of time.

There are so many truthers out there who have broken families, have substance abuse problems, still watch mindless television, still play mindless games like Call of Duty, still watch the latest over-budgeted Hollycrud film, still follow up on the major leagues, still yap about Las Vegas, blow their paychecks on tattoos, hub cap spinners, madison Ave fashions, and other petty crap, still bicker about petty grievances, and basically keep the bottom layers of the hypothetical pyramid intact.  I miss CitizenX's old avatar pic, because this is where I am going at.

Quit going along with NWO bulls**t.

It may take you a decade to break free from their bull, but it's worth it, and it takes one day at a time.

If everyone took responsibility for their own actions, there would be no illuminists in existence.


The other thing, is that truthers have no longview of history like our enemies do.  Instead the truthers wet their pants, and can't figure how a family like the Rothschilds can have a multi-generational plan of global financial domination.

My answer to that is we need a multi-generational plan of individual freedom for all.  I don't give a s**t, if it takes 20 years or 10,000 years, we need to do what it takes to restore God-given freedom.

Alex tells you the first step is to take back your local, county, and state government; and all the truthers do is say that Alex is a "fearmonger with no solutions", and then puff puff, back to the bong.  My answer is to that is get your f***king thumb out of your mouth, and do something, anything.  Waiting for Alex to do stuff for you is p***y s**t.

Alex, icke, Bill Cooper, Maxwell, Zeitgeist, and others aren't going to save you.  Watching a documentary, emailing it to your friends, and going back to what you were doing before is a false solution.  It shouldn't be "wake the f**k up", it should be "get the f**k up".

Knowing about the NWO ain't good enough, it's applying it to your life is what is the most important.

[freedom_commonsense]

There are so many truthers out there who have broken families

Don't have one, period.

have substance abuse problems, still watch mindless television

No (I'm also teetotal), and no. Haven't owned a TV in years.

still play mindless games like Call of Duty,  still watch the latest over-budgeted Hollycrud film

Even if I wanted to, I can't afford these.

still follow up on the major leagues

I gave up on following sports 10 years ago.

still yap about Las Vegas

Not relevant to me as I don't live in the US.

blow their paychecks on tattoos

Don't have a paycheck or tattoos.

hub cap spinners

Can't afford a car, never mind decorations for one.

madison Ave fashions

If only. I have the same shoes as 3 years ago...and my clothes are charity bin rejects.

and other petty crap, still bicker about petty grievances, and basically keep the bottom layers of the hypothetical pyramid intact.  I miss CitizenX's old avatar pic, because this is where I am going at.

I'm about as straight laced as you can get in the working class segment of the population - I'm not perfect by any means, but I don't buy slave tat from China whilst demanding minimum wages. In fact I support Georgist tax policy (have a look at Geolibertarian's threads).

Quit going along with NWO bulls**t.

What about you? You don't seem like a charity case, do you not have the resources to start a leadership campaign in your local area?

If everyone took responsibility for their own actions, there would be no illuminists in existence.

There would be, but their ability to seize power centres would be limited. Unfortunately in the interests of individualism and state limitation, you can't force people to change their lifestyle. If someone wants to play in Vegas, that's none of my business (barring fraud etc).

The other thing, is that truthers have no longview of history like our enemies do.  Instead the truthers wet their pants, and can't figure how a family like the Rothschilds can have a multi-generational plan of global financial domination.

It only took them 400 years to get this far 

My answer to that is we need a multi-generational plan of individual freedom for all.  I don't give a s**t, if it takes 20 years or 10,000 years, we need to do what it takes to restore God-given freedom.

Indeed. I think http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=162212.0 would be a good start.

Alex tells you the first step is to take back your local, county, and state government

Agreed.

and all the truthers do is say that Alex is a "fearmonger with no solutions", and then puff puff, back to the bong

Hogwash. You won't have my ear if you resort to stereotyping and bull****.

My answer is to that is get your f***king thumb out of your mouth, and do something, anything. Waiting for Alex to do stuff for you is p***y s**t.

Alex, icke, Bill Cooper, Maxwell, Zeitgeist, and others aren't going to save you.  Watching a documentary, emailing it to your friends, and going back to what you were doing before is a false solution.  It shouldn't be "wake the f**k up", it should be "get the f**k up".

Knowing about the NWO ain't good enough, it's applying it to your life is what is the most important.

Don't know about you, but I don't sit here chatting **** all day, I'm trying to keep the roof over my head and offering fellow working class people an inexpensive service. I suggest you take your own advice, stop whinging at the strawman you've created and do something useful. If you are, then I still suggest reading what Geolibertarian had to say in the thread I linked to.

[birther truther tenther]

Don't have one, period.

No (I'm also teetotal), and no. Haven't owned a TV in years.

Even if I wanted to, I can't afford these.

I gave up on following sports 10 years ago.


Not relevant to me as I don't live in the US.

Don't have a paycheck or tattoos.

Can't afford a car, never mind decorations for one.

If only. I have the same shoes as 3 years ago...and my clothes are charity bin rejects.

I'm about as straight laced as you can get in the working class segment of the population - I'm not perfect by any means, but I don't buy slave tat from China whilst demanding minimum wages. In fact I support Georgist tax policy (have a look at Geolibertarian's threads).

What about you? You don't seem like a charity case, do you not have the resources to start a leadership campaign in your local area?

There would be, but their ability to seize power centres would be limited. Unfortunately in the interests of individualism and state limitation, you can't force people to change their lifestyle. If someone wants to play in Vegas, that's none of my business (barring fraud etc).

It only took them 400 years to get this far 

Indeed. I think http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=162212.0 would be a good start.

Agreed.

Hogwash. You won't have my ear if you resort to stereotyping and bull****.

Don't know about you, but I don't sit here chatting **** all day, I'm trying to keep the roof over my head and offering fellow working class people an inexpensive service. I suggest you take your own advice, stop whinging at the strawman you've created and do something useful. If you are, then I still suggest reading what Geolibertarian had to say in the thread I linked to.

Obviously that post didn't apply to you, and you're ahead of the game.  Congratulations!  I give you props.

So nitpicking my post piece by piece was totally unnecessary.

Yes, I do other stuff besides "making posts all day".  if you haven't noticed, most of my posts are RESEARCH.  And yes, I do apply the knowledge to my everyday life.

[freedom_commonsense]

Obviously that post didn't apply to you, and you're ahead of the game.  Congratulations!  I give you props.

Don't congratulate me, I did most of that before I was a "truther". I barter for most of what I have so it was necessary.

So nitpicking my post piece by piece was totally unnecessary.

You felt the need to complain about the approach truthers were using, so I reserve the right to offer a response.

Yes, I do other stuff besides "making posts all day".  if you haven't noticed, most of my posts are RESEARCH.

I have, that's why I criticised this diversionary nonsense. Sniping at each other isn't constructive. Let's stick to research and sensible discussion.

And yes, I do apply the knowledge to my everyday life.[/b]

Did you read the thread I linked to? Does it make sense, would you push for those reforms locally?

[citizenx]

Boy, a guy goes and gets eight hours sleep, and his thread turne into another infighting fiasco.

Look, BTT, you bring up many good points (I will change my avatar back -- for a while, just for you.)

On the other hand -- yes it is the Queen Bitches, Rothschilds, and other prominent banking families at the top of the pyramid or whatever (calll it what you will).

freedom_commonsense, I don't think BTT's comments WERE at all aimed at you from what I can see, so please, please guys lets keep the thread on track.

And, BTT, if you disagree that people like the Rothschilds and the members of the Royal houses of Europe are  the most powerful globalists, the big-wigs of the global elite, then yes put forth your suggestions as to whom we should really be watching?  Which cat should we be trying to bell first?

Many here think its the Queen Bitches and I'm willing to roll with that.  If you have a better idea, though, I for one would like to hear it.

[freedom_commonsense]

Boy, a guy goes and gets eight hours sleep, and his thread turne into another infighting fiasco.

Look, BTT, you bring up many good points (I will change my avatar back -- for a while, just for you.)

On the other hand -- yes it is the Queen Bitches, Rothschilds, and other prominent banking families at the top of the pyramid or whatever (calll it what you will).

freedom_commonsense, I don't think BTT's comments WERE at all aimed at you from what I can see, so please, please guys lets keep the thread on track.

I apologise if you feel that was a derailment, but I objected to his characterisation of "truthers" in general. We're still not getting through to the masses yet so part of our approach should be to explain the benefit of reform to the general public. That requires solid reform proposals.

And, BTT, if you disagree that people like the Rothschilds and the members of the Royal houses of Europe are  the most powerful globalists, the big-wigs of the global elite, then yes put forth your suggestions as to whom we should really be watching?  Which cat should we be trying to bell first?

Many here think its the Queen Bitches and I'm willing to roll with that.  If you have a better idea, though, I for one would like to hear it.

He's right in that we shouldn't get too fixated on personalities, and dealing with issues of personal responsibility are definitely important - delegating freedom to the corporate state in exchange for "security" is a key problem in today's society. However we have had successes, just look at the desperate propaganda spewing forth on climate change for example.

[citizenx]

The global elite, if they are not organized, are of no threat to us whatsoever, but they are.  And, like any organization, the people at the top have names and faces and addresses. I must respectfully disagree with you both then.  I stand with the anonymous (Jacques Ex Dios Libertas) author of this piece.  It is important we are somewhat clear when we are talking about the globalists or the global elite as far as who it is we are talking about.

And yes we need clear reform (restoration) proposals, too, but that IS other matter for other threads.

His description of some truthers was not meant to be a characterization of all or most, I don't believe.  BTT can correct me if I'm wrong. Personally, I don't think there are that many that would fit the description.

[freedom_commonsense]

The global elite, if they are not organized, are of no threat to us whatsoever, but they are.  And, like any organization, the people at the top have names and faces and addresses. I must respectfully disagree with you both then.  I stand with the anonymous (Jacques Ex Dios Libertas) author of this piece.  It is important we are somewhat clear when we are talking about the globalists or the global elite as far as who it is we are talking about.

That's fine, but if we don't fix the system after dealing with them, more will take their place.

And yes we need clear reform (restoration) proposals, too, but that IS other matter for other threads.

"What it Will Take to Restore America" implies that solutions are part of the discussion.

His description of some truthers was not meant to be a characterization of all or most, I don't believe.  BTT can correct me if I'm wrong. Personally, I don't think there are that many that would fit the description.

Perhaps he was just venting steam, but petty complaints aside, genuine freedom movements being hijacked is a real issue - just see the Tea Party for an example.

[citizenx]

Amen on that last one!

[Krateros]

In regards to critical thinking. The best place to do this is philosophy, which needs to be re-introduced to the general educational curriculum. Philosophy, at its best is devoted to the learning of the nature and history of thought.

Here, you make another good point.  But Philosophy, like History, is potentially subversive.
 

In addition, Greek and Latin should be introduced as well - to understand the nature of our speech is necessary for proper articulation of thought. All of these subject matters have been relegated to the closet of our educational system as "useless" …

And, if I may elaborate, the subjects are not just considered useless from a utilitarian, pragmatic standpoint, but downright subversive, it seems, to some interests.  Again, speaking from my experience outside of this board, when one does encounter individuals who are given to rational, critical thinking, it often and ironically turns out that the philosophers of choice are obscure French Deconstructionists!  (Sigh.)  It is almost as if, to the [sarcasm]plaintive[/sarcasm] cry of the oft-quoted Georg Lukacs concerning “who will free us from the yoke [!] of Western Civilization,” a large section of the American intelligentsia answers Michael Focault*.  

- it is a travesty against our children and their minds.

Travesties in this case abound.  To compound matters, plenty of children are being taught, even if only by implication, at times, that Western Civilization is, or perhaps more accurately was, a concentration camp within which everyone not born a white man was, for 2,000 years, forcibly and cruelly restrained.


*That is not to either say or suggest that Focault has nothing of value to teach us.

[Krateros]

Sorry, that would be Michel Foucault.

[citizenx]

Well, it's partly my own fault, but I never really meant for this to be a philosophical thread.

So be it.  Let's at least try to keep it to the topic, though.

Yes, Foucault has many negative points, but his analysis of power relationships in society is at times very perceptive and germane to the topic at hand.

So, carry on.

[citizenx]

Posted on Infowars today:

Tyranny’s Last Stand: The Tipping Point is Here
         

Michael Edwards
Activist Post
October 4, 2010

 
 
 
The enemies are the banking consortium.  
 
In Malcolm Gladwell’s provocative book The Tipping Point, he gives many examples of how seemingly small, insignificant decisions can radiate to cause an eventual wave of change that overtakes the prevailing modes of behavior.  He clearly extrapolates how the silent leaders of society — not the ones on TV, or the ones we appoint — set trends through their singular ability to recognize an underlying need, or change of direction.  It can be as simple as a clothing style, a type of cuisine, a new travel destination . . . or the need to change the world’s political course.  I believe there are signs that The Tipping Point for free humanity has been reached; from here on out, there will be an open dialogue between the forces of tyranny and the forces of freedom.

The idea that in order to recognize tyranny, you must force it to act as such is very much the case right now.  Humanity is rebelling worldwide to the dictates of Elite overlords and petty bureaucrats alike.  The small, silent statements of resistance have reached a classic tipping point.  Whether it is tax rebellion, free speech, freedom of religion, the freedom to speak out against endless war, women’s rights in oppressive regimes, or the freedom to grow one’s own food in peace, the small defeats and victories have become a sustained chorus of resistance to ever-increasing forces of control.  This chorus has coalesced from the choirs of different nations, different genders, different political affiliations, different races, and different socioeconomic positions.  This is the ultimate sign of a true tipping point:  critical mass has been reached.

The modern pantheon of enemies has now been identified, along with their demiurges, by even the most common of men. The enemies are the banking consortium; the global Elite born and bred from mega-wealth; the academics and economists who disconnect ideas from reality; and the scientific and military minds who are so compartmentalized by design that they rarely know what sort of dictatorship to which they are making their contributions. These are the groups that every man, woman, and child recognizes instinctively, because they are the same personalities encountered in our childhood. Until this point, these dictators have had the smugness to assume that the ones they view as the weak would cower forever.


These tyrants have vastly underestimated the power of numbers and the exponential factors by which simple numbers can increase to create a tipping point that can cause an overnight Sea change. The few who had the most courage, while enduring mass ridicule, have spoken out for decades against a coming full spectrum tyranny.  These natural leaders are now raising their voices even louder and more urgently.  Some of these pioneers have withdrawn from their previous missions in acknowledgment of The Tipping Point; many have decided to redouble their efforts.  Regardless, little by little their collective audience has grown; whether in stadiums, or on Web sites, or in home discussion groups; the numbers have swelled, prompting a massive fear response from tyrants who know (with their instincts) when an uprising is taking place.

So now we see tyranny emerging in its most blatant form: citizen spies; government COINTELPRO operations against peaceful assembly; technological surveillance of every stripe, and the jackbooted common thug promoted to the top of the class in order to enforce an increasingly regimented society where thought is an actual liability.

original post:

http://www.activistpost.com/2010/10/tyrannys-last-stand-tipping-point-is.html