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« Reply #120 on: December 22, 2007, 03:35:41 PM »

RP talks to AJ about Iran agenda similar to Hitler expanding imperialism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7GCVbP-m9s
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« Reply #121 on: December 22, 2007, 03:55:45 PM »

i managed to listen to that clip without remembering a word of what was spoken. Kinda like reading a sentence 50 times before you manage to move on while reading a book.

anybody know what causes such "drift aways"?
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« Reply #122 on: December 22, 2007, 04:02:58 PM »

i managed to listen to that clip without remembering a word of what was spoken. Kinda like reading a sentence 50 times before you manage to move on while reading a book.

anybody know what causes such "drift aways"?

I think it is part of the mind control we are under from cradle to grave.  Kind of like when I had to listen to the follwing clip over 10 times to actually hear the words.  The only reason I knew that I missed something was because of the audience response:

Nader Sheds Light on Bush Impeachment!

3 min - Oct 14, 2007 -  (15 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW7n8trAv1A
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« Reply #123 on: December 22, 2007, 05:21:11 PM »

That warning is something to be considered, even more so when you add things together like:

1. The Yale/Harvand (not sure which) study that was recently posted here that said "If Ron Paul loses the '08 Election is a suspicious manner there could be a "Civil War Potential"

2. The "Paul is Dead" debate.

Seriously here nothing in a TV add is accidental. The producers plan EVERY detail within an AD they spend millions of dollars to air.  That cross was there for a reason, could it have been to spark the subliminal question debate? This would then allow that scripted answer HuckaHilter "yeah if you listen to it backward is says paul is dead"

3. Then the warning about an actual assassination plot being considered.... from a credible source.

Something isn't right about this situation.
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« Reply #124 on: December 22, 2007, 05:38:32 PM »

Seriously here nothing in a TV add isn't accidental. The producers plan EVERY detail within an AD they spend millions of dollars to air.  That cross was there for a reason, could it have been to spark the subliminal question debate? This would then allow that scripted answer HuckaHilter "yeah if you listen to it backward is says paul is dead"
Something isn't right about this situation.

People who still think it was an accident consider this:

Information concerning the "Paul is Dead"/Beatles accident:

Beatles subliminal experimentation with reverse tracking only mentions paul is dead one time and does not mention it three times.  If he was so familiar with that controversy he would definitely know that.  Saying Paul is dead as a controversy joke is one thing.  But staring into the camera and saying it three times is odd.  Let us look and see if it fits in subliminal/trigger/psyops messaging....


The most basic form of mind control is repetition and 3 times is the minimum requirement:
http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Mind_Control_By_Repetition.html


Repetition Mind Control

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0UEGE9SBts

Let us never forget:

Politics of Mindless Repetition and Fear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olHpD_zjmtQ
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« Reply #125 on: December 22, 2007, 05:44:06 PM »

The link to that "Civil War" article and the forum I found it in...

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=513315  --- The link to the original article in the Harvard Crimsion


http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message471827/pg1  --- The forum I heard about it in


Who the feck thinks like that besides us ... the  Grin "Conspiracy Theorists?"  Grin

I don't recall talk of civil war after the last two elections results ....ended up... shall we say.....RIGGED?
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« Reply #126 on: December 22, 2007, 05:52:28 PM »

Pew: Nearly Fifty Percent of Americans Buy Into Neocon Mass Murder Campaign
http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1375
Kurt Nimmo TruthNews December 22, 2007


As the CIA should know and the Washington Post dutifully reports:

A recent decline in U.S. news coverage from Iraq coincides with improved public opinion about the war just as the 2008 presidential campaign heads to an early showdown, a study released on Wednesday said…

The falloff coincided with a 14 percentage point climb — from 34 to 48 percent — in the number of Americans who believe the military effort in Iraq is going either fairly or very well, according to Pew.

In other words, if we can believe Pew — and we know, after the Ron Paul polling experience, how these outfits work, that is to say less than reputably — nearly half of the polled Americans are blithering idiots with a defective view of reality. But then, of course, as they are proud to admit, the neocons create reality and we follow up, usually by way of the moron tube. As for the CIA, mentioned above: the Washington Post was a favored son under Operation Mockingbird, the intelligence penetration and take-over of corporate media. There is no reason to believe, some sixty odd years later, anything has changed, as made manifestly apparent by the results of this bone-headed poll. The study was published as other polling data has shown the Iraq war issue receding slightly as a voter issue in the presidential campaign, which will see its first contest in the Iowa caucuses on January 3. “The people enjoying some respite from Iraq are probably now the candidates for president … because Americans appear to be less concerned with Iraq as an issue in the campaign than they were a few months ago,” Rosenstiel said.

Quite predictably, the “presidential candidates,” with the distinct exception of Ron Paul, don’t want to talk about Iraq and for an obvious reason: when one of them is appointed, the “war” in Iraq will continue. Adding the Iraq issue to the campaign mix simply makes for a whole lot of questions the selectees — again, with the exception of Ron Paul — are not interested in answering. So obviously, according to our rulers, who indeed control what is sent out over the telescreen, it is best to dial back on the Iraqi “news,” that is to say “news” reported from the Green Zone. News coverage, particularly accounts of daily attacks, began declining as violence levels dropped in late summer and early autumn. Pew said Iraq news resurged in October but mainly because of the controversy surrounding the Blackwater security firm and its alleged role in the deaths of Iraqi civilians. A later Pew analysis of November news stories found a renewed decline in volume and signs of a more promising tone as coverage focused on declining violence and the apparent success of Bush’s so-called troop “surge.”

“There are signs that November represented something of a turning point in coverage from Iraq. Whether it proves to be a temporary one will depend on the course of events,” the study said. The violence precipitated — and indeed engineered — by the neocons in Iraq has not declined: it will continue unabated until the United States gets out of there. Earlier this year, the Pentagon itself admitted that violence in Iraq “jumped to another record high,” largely due to a “sectarian struggle for power,” according to Reuters. Reading the corporate media, one gets the idea that the Iraqis are responsible for all this unfortunate violence, it has nothing to do with the neocons or their “surge” to kill “al-Qaeda,” the cardboard boogieman that shows up conveniently when needed.

It is probably too much to expect these idiots — and people who passively get their “news” from a tube owned by the same corporations that make ba-zillions of dollars off attack helicopters and fighter jets are indeed idiots — to recall the Pentagon telling us they were “considering” (translation: they had already implemented) the “Salvador Option,” that is to say they organized and unleashed death squads against the Iraqi people. It was admitted that the Pentagon had deferred to the CIA on this because the agency has oodles of experience in this sort of psychopathic behavior — from orchestrating the murder of some 100,000 Guatemalans to enabling fascists and thugs in Indonesia to slaughter around a million people — and that’s only the tip of the serial murder iceberg.

John Pilger wrote last year:

The real news, which is not reported in the CNN “mainstream”, is that the Salvador Option has been invoked in Iraq. This is the campaign of terror by death squads armed and trained by the US, which attack Sunnis and Shias alike. The goal is the incitement of a real civil war and the break-up of Iraq, the original war aim of Bush’s administration. The ministry of the interior in Baghdad, which is run by the CIA, directs the principal death squads. Their members are not exclusively Shia, as the myth goes. The most brutal are the Sunni-led Special Police Commandos, headed by former senior officers in Saddam’s Ba’ath Party. This unit was formed and trained by CIA “counter-insurgency” experts, including veterans of the CIA’s terror operations in central America in the 1980s, notably El Salvador.

And don’t expect the U.S. to leave Iraq until the mission to break it up, with plenty of attendant murder and misery, is complete, no matter who is in office, that is with the exception of Ron Paul. In the meantime, it makes sense for the “war” to disappear from America’s telescreens just as the funny season — when presidential selectees read from prepared scripts and supposedly attack each other — unfolds and sickeningly dominates the supposedly public owned airwaves.

Our only hope to end the carnage lies with the election of Ron Paul, the only candidate talking about ending the “war” (occupation) and bringing the troops home. But as investigative reporter Daniel Estulin told Alex Jones recently, if the neocons have their way Dr. Paul will be taken out of the picture, as he upsets the neocon mass murder apple cart. “I am getting information from my sources that there are people involved from a higher level of the American establishment who are seriously considering — this has not been confirmed — but assassination is definitely on the agenda and I pray to God that this is not the case,” said Estulin.

Paul Joseph Watson wrote for Prison Planet on Friday:

In a June appearance on The Alex Jones Show, Congressman Paul acknowledged that such a threat is “real,” agreeing with a number of historical examples where leaders were killed or attacked for successfully standing up to the system. “That’s right. They’ll do it,” Paul said, making reference with Alex Jones to upstarts like Andrew Jackson, “The Kingfish” Huey Long, Bobby Kennedy, George Washington and even George Wallace.

As should be obvious by now, the neocons will not allow anybody or anything — from Ron Paul to investigative television reportage — to get in the way of the plan to “domesticate” the Muslim world.

If we are to believe Pew, nearly 50 percent of Americans buy into this agenda as well, although of course we cannot expect the average American to understand the real process behind the “war” in Iraq anymore than we can expect a six year old to understand quantum physics.
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« Reply #127 on: December 22, 2007, 05:52:56 PM »

NORTHCOM: Constitution Not Important
http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1368
Lee Rogers Rogue Government December 21, 2007


The United States government is now actively directing the attention of the U.S. military towards the American people. Using the phony war on terror, the Department of Homeland Security and the U.S. Northern Command (NORTHCOM) are creating a militarized control grid specifically to enslave the American people. One thing is clear, neither of these agencies abide by the Constitution. In fact, both agencies by themselves are unconstitutional and should be abolished. Despite this, it is expected that they would at least try to follow the supreme law of the land which is the Constitution regardless of the unconstitutionality of the institutions themselves. Amazingly, NORTHCOM is now openly admitting that they do not follow the Constitution. NORTHCOM recently issued a press release talking about how they handle intelligence oversight and they stated that their goal in conducting intelligence oversight includes ensuring that presidential directives and executive orders are abided by during intelligence gathering operations. Of course, they don’t specifically mention anything about abiding by the Constitution. This is disturbing considering the hundreds of unconstitutional executive orders issued by George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and others. In fact some even argue that executive orders by themselves aren’t constitutional. If NORTHCOM is saying that the oversight of their intelligence gathering operations consist of ensuring these executive orders and directives are followed, than they are not concerned with following the Constitution. The following is taken from NORTHCOM’s press release on a recent intelligence oversight conference.

Safeguarding the privacy rights of U.S. persons is critical to the Department of Defense agencies that conduct intelligence activities in support of the nation’s homeland defense and homeland security.  To ensure the rights of all U.S. persons are protected, DoD established an Intelligence Oversight program to ensure that all military intelligence, counterintelligence, and intelligence related activities are conducted in accordance with applicable laws, presidential executive orders and DoD directives and regulations. In its continuing effort to ensure compliance with the DoD IO program, North American Aerospace Defense Command and U.S. Northern Command sponsored the 1st Annual World-Wide Intelligence Oversight Conference Dec. 4-6 at Joint Task Force North Headquarters on Fort Bliss, Texas. They admit that intelligence operations will be conducted in accordance with applicable laws, presidential executive orders and DoD directives and regulations. There are countless unconstitutional executive orders, so this admission means that they are not concerned with following the Constitution. If applicable laws include the Constitution, than how can they follow the Constitution and the many executive orders that are unconstitutional and unapplicable as it applies to the supreme law of the land?

NORTHCOM has already admitted that their goal is to form a militarized police state by the year by 2020 that will likely be used to control the domestic population of people within the United States, Canada and Mexico. They describe an apparent martial law apparatus for the coming North American Union superstate. NORTHCOM has also already conducted various martial law type exercises in preperation for a potential domestic insurrection. NORTHCOM has also stated that these exercises will continue and that they will become more sophisticated. As reported by Blackanthem Military News, NORTHCOM is already starting to integrate their operations with various U.S. and Canadian federal agencies including with the Department of Homeland Security. U.S. Northern Command is cementing a vast network of relationships critical to protecting the homeland against attacks or natural disasters and providing a unified response should one occur, its commander said today.  Since it was established a year after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Northern Command has formed critical partnerships with the Department of Homeland Security, about 60 other U.S. and Canadian federal agencies and the states, Air Force Gen. Victor E. “Gene” Renuart Jr. said. This is all very bad news for the American people who simply want the government to follow the Constitution. Not only is NORTHCOM admitting that they do not follow the Constitution but they are working to destroy the sovereignty of all three North American countries by integrating and forming partnerships with institutions within the different countries. Combined this with the fact that the Department of Homeland Security is attempting to implement a multi-billion dollar domestic spy satellite system along with all sorts of other unconstitutional surveillance programs and there is little doubt that a militarized control grid is being built around the American people. NORTHCOM and the Department of Homeland Security should be abolished immediately. These institutions themselves are unconstitutional, they perform unconstitutional activities and NORTHCOM now has admitted that they don’t follow the Constitution. These institutions will no doubt be used to further descend this country into absolute tyranny.
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« Reply #128 on: December 22, 2007, 05:55:10 PM »

I hate how "they" use "conspiracy theory" against us,as if its something bad, cause its committed every day. Every friggin crime is a conspiracy between a group of people to acheive something. Wether its to rob a bank, import drugs, sell kids to the highest bidding pedo or whatever. They make it sound like something only the tinfoil hat people are commited to. And i know thats their objective, but it makes me mad as hell, and im not gonna take it anymore.
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« Reply #129 on: December 22, 2007, 08:59:16 PM »

Ron Paul Supporters Nothin's Gonna Stand In Our Way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09eUzBbqjZU

Big fan of Ron Paul and with all the momentum the Ron Paul Revolution has had I just wanted to say thank you to everyone on the front lines. Song is Nothin's Gonna Stand In Our Way - Spectre General.

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« Reply #130 on: December 22, 2007, 09:02:35 PM »

2008 ELECTION - FOUGHT IN 1964

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s06YhQyv3w

This is a video that displays the amazing parallel between the 1964 election and our upcoming 2008 election. It's a new battle against big government and expanded executive powers all fought in a new theatre. This theatre of war -- terrorism -- has spawned an unruly and unconstitutional witch-hunt, not unlike that of Cold War communism. Don't let history repeat itself. Ron Paul for Liberty.

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Ronald Reagan, in this video's case, is narrating the parallel -- he is not serving as the 'Ron Paul' of 1964... Remember Reagan didn't run in 1964. The speech he gave in 1964 was concerning his change in views -- how and why he supports what I call a true libertarian-conservative Goldwater... I'm not calling Reagan a prince or his presidential policies infallible nor am I saying Ron Paul is the new Reagan. If I did, both accounts would be clearly false. I am, however, just showing the parallel between the two times. I, along with many others, believe that this video successfully illustrates such a parallel.
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« Reply #131 on: December 24, 2007, 11:19:55 AM »

More death trash talk from Huckster about Ron Paul!
It's screamingly clear in this YouTube video who he is talking about.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-2Sb7dFsvM






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« Reply #132 on: December 24, 2007, 11:34:04 AM »

More death trash talk from Huckster about Ron Paul!
It's screamingly clear in this YouTube video who his is talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-2Sb7dFsvM

What the f**k is wrong with this guy and people who think that he cares about them at all.  Isn't suicide a sin?

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« Reply #133 on: December 24, 2007, 11:51:41 AM »

On the other hand, this was added on 9 Oct of this year.  Before the big money bombs....
That youtube video of Huck does however seem to be forecasting nonetheless....

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« Reply #134 on: December 24, 2007, 11:52:10 AM »

Of course this was added on 9 Oct of this year.  Before the big money bombs....
That youtube video of Huck does however seem to be forecasting nonetheless....

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Good for you! I didn't see the date.  But he was already in the loop, so to speak.

The little puke is just like his NWO masters, and the rest of the minions. He LOVES death. 

I also have no doubt that a deeper investigation into Huckster's past will reveal even more parallels to Bush, and Clinton when they were governors.



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« Reply #135 on: December 24, 2007, 11:57:53 AM »

NORTHCOM: Constitution Not Important
http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1368
Lee Rogers Rogue Government December 21, 2007


The United States government is now actively directing the attention of the U.S. military towards the American people. Using the phony war on terror, the Department of Homeland Security and the U.S. Northern Command (NORTHCOM) are creating a militarized control grid specifically to enslave the American people. One thing is clear, neither of these agencies abide by the Constitution. In fact, both agencies by themselves are unconstitutional and should be abolished. Despite this, it is expected that they would at least try to follow the supreme law of the land which is the Constitution regardless of the unconstitutionality of the institutions themselves. Amazingly, NORTHCOM is now openly admitting that they do not follow the Constitution. NORTHCOM recently issued a press release talking about how they handle intelligence oversight and they stated that their goal in conducting intelligence oversight includes ensuring that presidential directives and executive orders are abided by during intelligence gathering operations. Of course, they don’t specifically mention anything about abiding by the Constitution. This is disturbing considering the hundreds of unconstitutional executive orders issued by George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and others. In fact some even argue that executive orders by themselves aren’t constitutional. If NORTHCOM is saying that the oversight of their intelligence gathering operations consist of ensuring these executive orders and directives are followed, than they are not concerned with following the Constitution. The following is taken from NORTHCOM’s press release on a recent intelligence oversight conference.

Safeguarding the privacy rights of U.S. persons is critical to the Department of Defense agencies that conduct intelligence activities in support of the nation’s homeland defense and homeland security.  To ensure the rights of all U.S. persons are protected, DoD established an Intelligence Oversight program to ensure that all military intelligence, counterintelligence, and intelligence related activities are conducted in accordance with applicable laws, presidential executive orders and DoD directives and regulations. In its continuing effort to ensure compliance with the DoD IO program, North American Aerospace Defense Command and U.S. Northern Command sponsored the 1st Annual World-Wide Intelligence Oversight Conference Dec. 4-6 at Joint Task Force North Headquarters on Fort Bliss, Texas. They admit that intelligence operations will be conducted in accordance with applicable laws, presidential executive orders and DoD directives and regulations. There are countless unconstitutional executive orders, so this admission means that they are not concerned with following the Constitution. If applicable laws include the Constitution, than how can they follow the Constitution and the many executive orders that are unconstitutional and unapplicable as it applies to the supreme law of the land?

NORTHCOM has already admitted that their goal is to form a militarized police state by the year by 2020 that will likely be used to control the domestic population of people within the United States, Canada and Mexico. They describe an apparent martial law apparatus for the coming North American Union superstate. NORTHCOM has also already conducted various martial law type exercises in preperation for a potential domestic insurrection. NORTHCOM has also stated that these exercises will continue and that they will become more sophisticated. As reported by Blackanthem Military News, NORTHCOM is already starting to integrate their operations with various U.S. and Canadian federal agencies including with the Department of Homeland Security. U.S. Northern Command is cementing a vast network of relationships critical to protecting the homeland against attacks or natural disasters and providing a unified response should one occur, its commander said today.  Since it was established a year after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Northern Command has formed critical partnerships with the Department of Homeland Security, about 60 other U.S. and Canadian federal agencies and the states, Air Force Gen. Victor E. “Gene” Renuart Jr. said. This is all very bad news for the American people who simply want the government to follow the Constitution. Not only is NORTHCOM admitting that they do not follow the Constitution but they are working to destroy the sovereignty of all three North American countries by integrating and forming partnerships with institutions within the different countries. Combined this with the fact that the Department of Homeland Security is attempting to implement a multi-billion dollar domestic spy satellite system along with all sorts of other unconstitutional surveillance programs and there is little doubt that a militarized control grid is being built around the American people. NORTHCOM and the Department of Homeland Security should be abolished immediately. These institutions themselves are unconstitutional, they perform unconstitutional activities and NORTHCOM now has admitted that they don’t follow the Constitution. These institutions will no doubt be used to further descend this country into absolute tyranny.


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  According to Jack McLamb the soldiers needed to enforce this madness will partly come from the killers they are breeding now everywhere overseas. The low grade morons that they are now packing the armed forces with. Good luck everyone.
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« Reply #136 on: December 24, 2007, 12:45:50 PM »

Of course this was added on 9 Oct of this year.  Before the big money bombs....
That youtube video of Huck does however seem to be forecasting nonetheless....

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The money bomb does not matter.  On September 30,2007, Ron Paul raised more money than McCain for the Quarter $5.3 million.  Huckabee only raised $1 Million.  He had $5 million cash on hand when Romney had a debt of over $8 million and Huckabee had less than $625,000 cash on hand.  Out of the top money makers the only one who did not register in the CFR controlled polls was Ron Paul.  It is very obvious who he was talking about.

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« Reply #137 on: December 24, 2007, 12:50:49 PM »

What was Huck's relation to Bill Clinton?  I haven't researched that angle.  Is there any relationship outside of Arkansas?  Just curious.....


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« Reply #138 on: December 24, 2007, 12:52:31 PM »

What was Huck's relation to Bill Clinton?  I haven't researched that angle.  Is there any relationship outside of Arkansas?  Just curious.....


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they both are slaves to the same masters, David Rockefeller and the CFR.  They both use similar political strategists (the strategists are above party lines).
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« Reply #139 on: December 24, 2007, 01:59:42 PM »

Huckabee gets outed by a pretty pissed off video blogger
[warning uncensored truth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn9RyKHIZnA
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« Reply #140 on: December 24, 2007, 02:27:20 PM »

AMERICAN FREE PRESS ARTICLE-  PAUL IN THE CROSSHAIRS OF THE ELITE

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/paul_in_crosshairs119.html
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« Reply #141 on: December 24, 2007, 02:31:32 PM »

AMERICAN FREE PRESS ARTICLE-  PAUL IN THE CROSSHAIRS OF THE ELITE

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/paul_in_crosshairs119.html


Deserves a full post:

PAUL IN CROSSHAIRS OF ELITE - Renowned bestselling author, journalist Says Ron Paul’s life may be in danger
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/paul_in_crosshairs119.html
By Pat Shannan


Bilderberg tracker Daniel Estulin says he has received information from sources inside the U.S. intelligence community suggesting that people from the highest levels of government are discussing “eliminating” Rep. Ron Paul because its controlled political system is threatened by Paul’s exploding popularity. Estulin, whose information has proven accurate in the past, went public with the bombshell story Dec. 14 on Alex Jones’s national radio show. “I am getting information from my sources that there are people involved from a higher level of the American establishment who are seriously considering assassination,”Estulin said.

Estulin’s past predictions about global events were accurate because of the solid information provided to him from within the Bilderberg organization. Over 18 months ago Estulin correctly made the call that the Iran invasion had been delayed and was probably off the table, which appears now to be the case following the release of the National Intelligence Estimate showing that Iran had terminated its nuclear research in 2003. Estulin, an award-winning investigative journalist, said that he was given the information from a source that has been reliable for over a decade in providing accurate projections of future events based on what the elite were discussing in their own circles and that assassination was a serious option should the Ron Paul Revolution continue to grow. Retired FBI Special-Agent-in-Charge Ted Gunderson, 78, has been a whistleblower since his retirement nearly 30 years ago. He said “Yes, absolutely, they won’t hesitate to do it.” Rather than shooting Paul, a more sophisticated silent attack such as poisoning or the provocation of a heart attack via exotic electronic technology would be more likely, he said. “That way the real killers are not required to put a ‘patsy’ in place, such as in the Kennedy assassination,” he continued. “And don’t count out a plane crash or a car wreck, which has been another method of choice in recent years.”  Paul himself has stated on previous occasions that he is aware of the dangers of being such a bold spokesman for freedom and understands what threat he represents to those who would stoop to anything to preserve their grip on America.

Paul acknowledged months before the Estulin report that such a threat is “real,” agreeing with a number of historical examples where leaders were killed or attacked for successfully standing up to the system. “That’s right. They’ll do it,” Paul said, making reference to previous men of history such as Andrew Jackson, Huey Long, Bobby Kennedy and GeorgeWallace. The attack on Jackson, on the Capitol steps in 1835, was the only one of the four not to be a successful “removal” because his attacker’s weapon misfired. Both Long and Kennedy died and Wallace spent the rest of his life in a wheelchair.  Estulin, author of the global bestseller Club Bilderberg: The True Story of the Bilderberg Group, described the concept as a “trial balloon from the inner core within the inner core—it hasn’t gone beyond that but it is obviously on the table because I think that they are very much concerned.” Estulin said his sources were from within the intelligence community and they were telling him that “the people of the highest levels of government—not related in any way, at least visibly, to George W. Bush—the first initial conversation of what might happen if we were to do this, has taken place.” “The Ron Paul phenomenon has galvanized an entire nation,” said Estulin, adding that both the people who discovered the plot and its potential protagonists are terrified at the consequences of what such an action might be because of the difficulty in judging just how severely the general public will react. Estulin said that the conspirators, which he described as a “small circle of intimates,” were discussing what the effect would be if Paul was “removed” —they are being very careful to use the word “remove” rather than more volatile terms. But Estulin was told directly that “remove” was a euphemism for assassinate.  James P. Tucker Jr., who has covered Bilderberg for more than 30 years for AFP, said he has been collaborating with Estulin for years. “We always pool the information we get out of Bilderberg, and Danny’s never been wrong,” he said. Meanwhile Paul’s campaign raised more than $6 million on the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party.
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« Reply #142 on: December 24, 2007, 06:33:03 PM »


Patriot X, thank you for being part of this conversation. I was going to get back to you, but realized it was the day to bake bread for my dad. (I do that twice a week for him. He's 87, and I do a lot of his cooking.) I tend to ramble at times... back on track. It looks like Sane filled you in on some more details. He's very good at that.

There is more being uncovered every day. Please check this thread: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=16538.0. I added sa few more things today.

In fact so much is coming to light every day it is hard to keep up! This guy is a total elite stooge, and everything about him reeks, from his family, (one dog torturing son, another was the go-to guy on campus for porn), to his criminal laced years as governor, and everything in between.

Like you, I have little precious time to do a through research into the man, like I once did.  This is why I hope someone is able to collect, and organize all of the Huckster bits and pieces into a exposé.   

Also here is a link to Huckabee's CFR speech.  http://www.cfr.org/publication/14335/

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« Reply #143 on: December 24, 2007, 08:21:16 PM »

just like they did Kennedy. he wanted to get rid of the Fed Reserve and the CIA too...
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« Reply #144 on: December 24, 2007, 09:03:47 PM »

Still think the Neo-Cons are not plotting to get Dr. Paul "out of the way?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rduigENzHo

He says that Ron Paul hates America

He says that he is a crank

He says that he has flawed logic

Hey Bill, your actions killed over 1,000,000 innocent people.  Why are you not in jail?
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« Reply #145 on: December 24, 2007, 09:52:10 PM »

Urgh. It's an understatement to say I can't stand that guy.

But for the left/right wing extremists...

If You Liked Saddam... You'll Love Lincoln! by The SA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqOmQlYwUBA

just like they did Kennedy. he wanted to get rid of the Fed Reserve and the CIA too...

Though in terms of making enemies, Kennedy is an amateur compared to Ron Paul. Even with a house full of shills he could potentially do decades worth of damage.
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« Reply #146 on: December 25, 2007, 12:34:25 AM »

So let us take it from the top concerning Huckabee's vindictiveness...


STEP 1:
September 5, 2007 - Huckabee gets his ass kicked in open debates

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9sA5FQfE1E

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STEP 2:

October 3, 2007 - Dr. Ron Paul reports his numbers for the 3rd quarter and a graphical representation is made of the cash on hand for all GOP candidates:



Notice the top 3 candidate concerning cash?  Only one of them has low CFR poll numbers.  That person is Dr. Ron Paul


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STEP 3:

October 17, 2007 - Huckabee Suggests Opponents Commit Suicide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-2Sb7dFsvM
[To be fair he says tens of millions of dollars.  This might infer Romney (that just seems stupid they are both CFR)]

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STEP 4:

You can pick up on this post:

Just a summary of the CFR/Rockefeller/Haass/Huckabee
"Paul is Dead" Psyops Attack:

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Pre-Attack preparation:
[Few discaimers... A: This pre-attack analysis has some admitted speculation, if it does not work for you just move on to the attacks. B: It is not the players that you see on TV but the wizards behind the curtains that create these mind games and psyops (or worse).  The players usually only know their specific roles.  Because all the players that I mention are part of the CFR, they are advised by CFR advisors who have the ability to convince candidates to issue statements, use tactics, propogate messages, etc.  The candidates themselves are mostly mindless to the overall picture and just do what they are told (McCain/Romney are prime examples of this puppeteering).  If you are unfamiliar as how people can be so manipulated to do so many various independent tasks yet all serving the same single source, see "The Usual Suspects."]

I: Create a Chritsmas video with an obvious cross in the background.  It is planned that there will be some minor backlash from the progressive media outlets on his religious stand, but this will give him an opportunity to use the "innocent pastor spreading love" nonsense.

II: The cross makes perfect sense in a christmas ad from an evangelical candidate, but it is purposely positioned in a way to be granting Huckabee some divine sense of righteousness. He has already said that God is responsible for his increase in the poll numbers when we know it is the CFR.  In addition there are issues concerning the wording of the ad and the pushing of the ad as the most important message from Huckabee.  These concerns create the impression that Huckabee is using religion and Jesus to gain political favors.  Ron Paul's reaction is that Sinclair Lewis warned us that American fascism may come in the sign of a cross.  But Mitt Romney and many pundits are prodded to focus on the "subliminal messaging" even though there is nothing subliminal about a glowing bright cross that surrounds the candidate.

III: This puts Huckabee on the defensive to deal with the growing realization that he is a con artist (very touchy subject for him).  He may have also been told that Ron Paul called him a fascist to convince him to go along with such a ridiculous PR stunt.  He has already shown that he is willing to attack Ron Paul when he has absolutely nothing backing it up.  That tactic was so stupid it even got highlighted in the comedy shows, obviously Huckabee is anxious to strike back given his nature as being vindictive. He of course was probably also told (and it is proving to be true) that CFR controls the messaging and they would make sure the attack would never be published as an attack.  Please understand that Huckabee created the ad in the beginning expecting blowback on religion so that he can play the "why can't we take time out for Christmas, are we that crazy" nonsense.  However the accusations of subliminal nonsense either pissed him off or was another setup for CFR propoganda.
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ATTACK 1:
Huckabee on Christ Ad Brouhaha: Paul is Dead

2 min - Dec 19, 2007
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4026969


Huckabee on Christ Ad Brouhaha: 'Paul is Dead'
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/12/huckabee-pokes.html
December 18, 2007 3:07 PM


ABC News' Kevin Chupka Reports: Former Governor Mike Huckabee, R-Ark., had some fun Tuesday answering a question about a brewing controversy over his latest TV ad called "What Really Matters."  Huckabee is running a Christmas ad in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina where the former Baptist minister invokes Jesus Christ -- the first 2008 Republican candidate to do so in a campaign ad. In the ad Huckabee says that that at this time of year, "what really matters is the celebration of the birth of Christ and being with our family and our friends." Some have suggested there is an image of a cross behind Huckabee's shoulder as he talks to the camera in the ad, but Huckabee dismissed that Tuesday. "That was a book shelf behind me, a book shelf," Huckabee told reporters while campaigning in Houston, Texas. Huckabee was asked if his language crossed the line between faith and politics:  "Absolutely not," he said. Huckabee went on to joke, to the delight of the reporters in the room, "I will confess this; if you play the spot backwards it says 'Paul is dead, Paul is dead, Paul is dead.'" The Republican candidate likened the dissection of his Christmas campaign ad to rumors that Paul McCartney was killed in a car crash at the height of the Beatles popularity and replaced by a doppelganger, and that subtle clues were placed inside the group's music for years to come.
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ATTACK 2:
CNN Situation Room - Mike Huckabee "Paul Is Dead" message

3 min - Dec 20, 2007 -  (1 rating)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3rbSckvUSA

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ATTACK 3:
HUCKABEE/BECK THREAT: WHERE'S THE FBI?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPN4fgZKtiE

SEE TIMER AT 02:18
Glenn Beck Show Scrolls Paul Is Dead Message During Ron Paul Interview. I notice a lot of you think that this is just a coincidence and to think otherwise is "moronic". Just remember, it is more gullible to believe something like this could never be conceived of by Dr. Paul's enemies, as he is now the ESTABLISHMENT'S most feared and hated obstacle. NO, this is not too far-fetched at all. Related Article: http://prisonplanet.com/articles/december2007/191207Message.htm Pray for our man's protection. If the Lord wants him in office, He will be very willing to answer our prayers.



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ATTACK 4:
Joe Scarborough/Mika Brezinski/MSNBC's Morning Joe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tm59600r_E

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ATTACK 5:
With Rockefeller calling on Rothschild for assistance, over 1,000 print and web media publications carried the over 100 different stories all on the same day promoting the subliminal message of "Paul is Dead."  Here is a sampling:
http://news.google.com/news?tab=vn&q=huckabee%20%22paul%20is%20dead%22


Huckabee Stands by Christmas Ad
The Associated Press - 15 hours ago

Paul is dead.'" He was joking about the Beatles' recording of "The White Album" and the urban legend that if a portion of the album is played backwards, ...
Huckabee defends Christmas ad Dallas Morning News

Glenn Beck Show Scrolls Paul Is Dead Message During Interview
Nolan Chart LLC, VA - 7 hours ago
On Tuesday at 7 Eastern Glenn Beck interviews Ron Paul and scrolls the message Paul is Dead, Paul is Dead, Paul is Dead from Huckabee on the bottom of the ...
Huck compares Christmas ad analyses to Beatles’ “Paul is dead” hoax
Hot Air, MD - 14 hours ago

Boston Globe   Huckabee ad delivers a Christmas message
Boston Globe, United States - 4 hours ago

Paul is dead,' " he said, a joking reference to the urban legend about the Beatles' "White Album." If Huckabee is indeed trying to lay claim to the ...Huckabee defends Christmas ad Some people are drawing such wild inferences from the commercial, Huckabee joked, that they might believe the ad says "Paul is dead" when played backward. ...
Houston Chronicle, United States - 5 hours ago

CNN Political Ticker   Is the bookshelf behind Huckabee in his Christmas ad is a ...
CNN Political Ticker - 14 hours ago
“Actually I will confess this, if you play this spot backwards it says ‘Paul is Dead, Paul is Dead, Paul is Dead,’” the presidential candidate joked to ...

The Associated Press   Today on the Presidential Campaign Trail
The Associated Press - 14 hours ago

Paul is dead,'" Huckabee saying the bookshelf is just a bookshelf in his Christmas ad. He was joking about the Beatles' recording of "The White Album" and ...
Governor Huckabee’s Christmas Ad Controversy
Catholic Online, CA - 8 hours ago

Paul is dead.'" Of course, anyone who was raised in the period dominated by the music of the Beatles recognizes the reference to their so called “White ...
Campaign Takeout
New York Daily News, NY - 2 hours ago

"I will confess this," Huckabee quipped. "If you play the spot backwards, it says, 'Paul is dead. Paul is dead'" - a joke about the Beatles' "The White ...Paul is dead.’ ” He was joking about the Beatles’ “White Album” and the urban legend that if a portion of the album is played backward, a reference can be ...Huckabee shrugs off ad fallout
Fort Wayne Journal Gazette, IN - 1 hour ago
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UPDATE ON THE NEOCON ATTACKS:

Bill Kristol is very pissed off that the American People are waking up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rduigENzHo

UPDATE II: The Christmas Ad:

Ron Paul's Ad came out First

Ron Paul Christmas Ad - December 11, 2007

31 sec - Dec 11, 2007 -  (3244 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZPCWGtIupE

Mike Huckabee Chritmas Ad - December 17, 2007

31 sec - Dec 17, 2007 -  (4545 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xn7uSHtkuA
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« Reply #147 on: December 26, 2007, 08:10:15 AM »

ARE THE GLOBALISTS OUT TO GET RON PAUL?

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stang/alan21.htm

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Warning! As you know, I always give you my best jokes in these pieces. This one will contain no humor. Will the conspiracy for world government assassinate Dr. Paul? That is the stark question now before us. Since the Paul campaign started to take off, I have been hearing agonized comments to that effect from his supporters. So far, I have said nothing, hoping they would subside, but now comes an authentic reporter citing “reliable sources” from inside.  He is Daniel Estulin, an author who lives in Spain, and whose welcome, new exposé is The True Story of the Bilderberg Group (Walterville, OR, Trine Day, 2007). The Bilderbergers meet at least once a year. Somewhere in the world, they take over a five-star establishment, kick all the other guests out, surround the place with guards armed with machine guns and meet in secret, where they decide what will happen to you and your property, which you have not elected them to do.  Estulin apparently has a good record for accuracy. He says that sources in a think tank in U.S. intelligence tell him that people at the top of the U.S. government are considering the execution of Dr. Ron Paul, whose exploding popularity is causing them to fear they could lose control. Recently, he became the 18 Million Dollar Man, after people around the country raised more than $6 million for his campaign in one day, a gargantuan record.

Estulin told commentator Alex Jones: “I am getting information from my sources that there are people involved from a higher level of the American establishment who are seriously considering – this has not been confirmed – but assassination is definitely on the agenda and I pray to God that this is not the case.” Estulin says his source has been accurate for ten years, and says that if the “Ron Paul Revolution” continues to multiply, assassination could be a “serious option.”  Needless to say, the utterly genteel lunatics who operate at that height in Washington do not use words like “assassinate” or “execute.” Certainly, they would never breathe the word “kill,” a word that has hair on it. They talk about the possibility of “removing” Dr. Paul, who is perfectly aware that assassination is a favorite technique of the conspiracy for world government. “If you can’t lick ‘em, join ‘em,” becomes “If you can’t lick ‘em, kill ‘em,” in the lexicon of world government.  Andy Jackson opposed the National Bank and someone tried to shoot him in the Capitol Rotunda. President James Garfield talked too much about money backed by gold and was assassinated. Huey Long, the “Kingfish,” opposed serial killer Franklin Roosevelt. He too was assassinated. Arthur Bremer stepped out of a crowd with a handgun and crippled George Wallace. John Hinckley, Jr. stepped out of a crowd with a handgun and shot Ronald Reagan. Of course, these are just a few examples.

Later, we are told that most of the assassins are demented. Richard Lawrence, who tried to kill Andy, told interrogators he was Richard III. Hinckley said he tried to kill Reagan to win the love of actress Jodie Foster. No doubt Hinckley would have been disillusioned and maybe would not have done it had he known that Jodie Foster is a dyke. Often the perpetrators leave an incriminating diary behind.  In the Soviet Union (which regular readers know never did collapse) there are literal schools of assassination. They teach how to kill an enemy by running him down with a truck. Was that what happened to General Patton? They teach how to kill a man with cyanide. The killer walks past him with a rolled up newspaper under his arm. When they come abreast, he puts the newspaper to his lips like a funnel and blows cyanide crystals into the target’s face. The crystals do their job and dissipate. When the doctors examine the corpse, all they can determine is that he had a fatal heart attack. Defenestration is another favorite technique. The target is simply thrown out a window, which in German is a “Fenster.” The Soviets did that in 1948 to Jan Masaryk, who stood in the way of their conquest of Czechoslovakia. That is what happened to Secretary of Defense James Forrestal who could have done much to stop the Reds. He “committed suicide” in 1949 by tying the sash of his robe around his neck and “jumping out” a 16th floor window of Bethesda Naval Hospital. Investigators found broken glass on his bed.  So it would be a very easy matter to assassinate Dr. No. His campaign threatens literally everything the conspiracy for world government is doing. Logic tells us that the conspirators will refuse to let one mild, avuncular doctor derail them when they are so close, which now becomes realistic to discuss. Ron loves to mix among his people. It would be very easy to inspire a nutbag who thinks he is Sitting Bull or Joan of Arc to step out of a crowd with a diary in one hand and a .38 in the other, and blow him away with his campaign.

Daniel Estulin says his sources tell him the “risk assessment” people at the top who are considering “removal” are asking each other, “What would happen if? . . . .” What would happen if Dr. No were “removed?” They are wise to ask. The fact that they are asking is an indication that they recognize something is different, something in the air. They are not sure what it is and it is making them nervous. I believe I can be helpful. I do know what would happen. There is something different. I am talking now to some of my readers, to those men at the highest levels of government in Washington who are discussing the ramifications of the murder of Dr. Paul. I am talking to their factotums who would arrange it. You have successfully killed many men with impunity. I have mentioned a few. You killed Jack Kennedy who cooperated but was not really one of you; you killed Mike King when his exposure destroyed his usefulness. You killed and got away with it. The people grumbled – some even suspected – but they bought your explanations, however farcical. It was a “lone gunman,” a wack job disconnected from everyone else, a guy with a diary proving how crazy he is, a guy with a mother problem, who can’t find a girl. I once asked Sara Jane Moore, convicted of trying to assassinate Gerald Ford, whether she had acted alone or in concert with others. She replied, “I have never answered that question, and I never will.” Not “I acted alone,” but “I never will answer.” No more – no more – no more! Yes, you could easily take out Dr. Ron, but by doing so you would irrevocably change the rules and make it a new game. It’s too late. Too many of us know who you are. Too many of us know what you want and that you have names, addresses, phone numbers and faces. And you can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube.

You have seen the passion of his supporters. You yourselves call them fanatics and wackos. They are volunteers; they quit their jobs, go broke and work for free. They hitch rides across the country, high-five each other and sleep on the floor. They are consumed. This is what they live for. Ron doesn’t tell them what to do. They tell him. Losing in a fair fight would be bitter, but because of their beliefs – and Dr. No’s benign influence – they would go home in peace. Losing unfairly – because you kill the candidate, proving he could win – after such enormous effort would be intolerable; in other words, they would not tolerate it. I can assure you; they would not let it pass. Who are they? Remember the patriot campaigns of old, run by little, old ladies from Pasadena in tennis shoes, accompanied by little, old men with no expertise? You used to make fun of them. David Rockefeller used to joke that they didn’t have $5 to attend their own meetings. That too is gone, finished.

Dr. No’s people are also doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. They are the people who make this country go. They are computer nerds. Dr. No enjoys a monopoly on the nation’s nerds, because they know he is the only candidate who advocates real freedom, the only one who would keep the internet free. All the others would acquiesce in the conspiracy’s desire to control it. The nerds can hack into anything. They have successfully hacked outfits like DOD. If they can get into DOD, they can get into anywhere. You can’t keep them out. They can take your identity and ruin your credit. They can create a lien on your property and a debt of $8 million to I.R.S. They can shut you down. If you whack Dr. Paul, they are going to be mad. You are terrified, as well you should be, about what they might do. Even worse, Dr. No has enormous support in the military, certainly more support than any other Republican, even more support than Arizona traitor John McClunk. What does that tell you? Did you happen to know that the .50 caliber rifle has a range of more than a mile? Do you know how far that is? It’s far enough so that by the time you find out where it came from, the sorehead who did it has another name and identity supplied by the nerds and is dancing the tango in Buenos Aires.

Remember, I’m not the guy you need to worry about. I’m too decrepit to hit a face with a pie. The guy you need to worry about is out there now, watching, stewing. By now, he is legion. He knows you are coming for his guns. And he is for instance the deadliest creature who ever stalked the earth: the Marine Corps sniper. Gunny maybe a little heavier, and a tad slower, but he is still fast enough to stick the red dot in your eye on his way to Buenos Aires. But Dr. Paul would never do such a thing! You’re right, a man so meek and humane, so truly Christian, would not. But remember that Dr. No is the champion of the Constitution, and the Founding Fathers said they gave us the Second Amendment in case we need it to overthrow the government. Indeed, President Tom Jefferson urged us to rise in a bloody revolution every twenty years or so, just for the fun – for the principle – of it. Consider also that you can whack Dr. Paul, yes, but you can’t kill his ideas. His ideas would still be there and so would these people who chose him. They would choose someone else who would probably be meaner. If you hit Dr. Paul, you well-paid flunkies who implement the schemes of the psychos at the top will always need to be looking for the red dot, because to do your jobs you must be out among the people.

The Ron Paul fanatics could even decide you are implicated in the hit just because you work for the federal government, maybe for I.R.S. or the Fed. Yes, that’s crazy, but, remember, they’re fanatics! They’re wackos! When you see the red dot, you could have time to hear a distant tap, maybe two. Those faint sounds will solve your problems here, but tomorrow morning you will wake up in Hell. Unlike your flunkies, you psychos at the top do not mix among the people. You are surrounded by security. You just pick up the phone and give orders. We know that. Thank God it is impossible for Gunny to reach you. The only thing you need to worry about is cocktails on your balcony or sailing off the coast, or meeting in some five-star joint surrounded by machine guns, or eating dinner in a restaurant, or getting into a car or getting out of a car. Other than that, you have nothing to fear. Needless to say, I pray daily that none of this happens. It won’t for sure if Dr. No survives the campaign intact.
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« Reply #148 on: December 26, 2007, 08:16:51 AM »


Did anybody find out how Russert could drop information like this?  It seemed to be a way to help any Neo-Con plan of "dealing with" Dr. Paul.  Russert piled it on, he said that Dr. Paul called Bush I a bum, and that Bush II was promoting wars in a way that could be compared to terror groups.  And he also said the following which just boggles the mind and only seem to want to help elite people like Kristol and Beck in building a case for assassination:

MR. RUSSERT:   You're running as a Republican.  In your--on your Web site, in your brochures, you make this claim:  "Principled Leadership.  Ron was also one of only four Republican Congressmen to endorse Ronald Reagan for president against Gerald Ford in" '76.  There's a photograph of you, Ronald Reagan on the right, heralding your support of Ronald Reagan.  And yet you divorced yourself from Ronald Reagan.  You said this:  "Although he was once an ardent supporter of President Reagan, Paul now speaks of him as a traitor leading the country into debt and conflicts around the world.  "I want to totally disassociate myself from the Reagan Administration." And you go on to The Dallas Morning News:  "Paul now calls Reagan a `dramatic failure.'"

REP. PAUL:  Well, I'll bet you any money I didn't use the word traitor.  I'll bet you that's somebody else, so I think that's misleading.  But a failure, yes, in, in many ways.  The government didn't shrink.  Ultimately, after he got in office, he said, "All I want to do is reduce the rate of increase in size of government." That's not my goal.  My goal is to reduce our government to a constitutional size.  Completely different.  I think that--matter of fact, he admitted in his memoirs that he had a total failure in Lebanon, and he said he relearned the Middle East because of that failure.  And so there--he--you know, he... [Cut off]


All of these quotes do not exist in reality.  They only exist in Tim's bubble.  They actually do not even make any sense.  Russert, what the hell are you doing? I mean this is downright evil.

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« Reply #149 on: December 26, 2007, 11:19:04 PM »

Unlike your flunkies, you psychos at the top do not mix among the people. You are surrounded by security. You just pick up the phone and give orders. We know that. Thank God it is impossible for Gunny to reach you. The only thing you need to worry about is cocktails on your balcony or sailing off the coast, or meeting in some five-star joint surrounded by machine guns, or eating dinner in a restaurant, or getting into a car or getting out of a car. Other than that, you have nothing to fear. 
Needless to say, I pray daily that none of this happens. It won’t for sure if Dr. No survives the campaign intact. -  Alan Stang



Oh great,

Just keep ratcheting up the rhetoric as Ron Paul gains in momentum and whamo, hit job, and frame the revolt.  Everyone will be calling us the "terrorists", just in time for bio-chips and round ups (that is, if they really want to get the ball rolling....).

Great.  Oh well.  Bring it on!


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« Reply #150 on: December 27, 2007, 04:13:54 AM »

Benjamin Fulford has said that if they try anything (even so much as a laim attempt), they will all be slaughtered in a matter of hours--all of them--Rockefeller, Rothschild, Schiffs, Morgans, etc.

If they do try this on Ron Paul then I do hope that Fulford is right!! Better them than Ron for sure!
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« Reply #151 on: December 27, 2007, 04:17:31 AM »

Just on a side note,

"13" stars in the Proctor and Gamble logo.  I am sure it is just ANOTHER coincidence.

Nevermind that urban myth debunkers have attempted long ago to dissuade anyone from believing there could be an occult connection or masonic connection.


I think we know better by now.


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I remember several years ago there was some saying the moon and stars on the procter and gamble products had some connection to the satanic and at that time many people boycotted their products...They denied any such connection but I believe they did change the logo!
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« Reply #152 on: December 27, 2007, 08:12:29 PM »

It might be related to the Starbucks logo and goddess...some new age thing. I believe it's a pagan goddess.

Regarding the recent assassination of Benazir Bhutto, Pakistan's former Prime Minister, does anyone think this part of the larger psychological operation preparing for an attempt at Ron Paul's life?
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« Reply #153 on: December 28, 2007, 11:32:05 AM »

It might be related to the Starbucks logo and goddess...some new age thing. I believe it's a pagan goddess.

Regarding the recent assassination of Benazir Bhutto, Pakistan's former Prime Minister, does anyone think this part of the larger psychological operation preparing for an attempt at Ron Paul's life?

Hmmm, I have even thought it might be some type of test to see what the results would be there before making an attempt to try it here!!
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« Reply #154 on: December 28, 2007, 08:58:31 PM »

Daniel Estulin Interview On Government Tyranny, New World Order, Statistics and Population

45 min 21 sec - Dec 29, 2007
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5988129615263415069
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« Reply #155 on: December 31, 2007, 01:29:32 AM »

Unlike your flunkies, you psychos at the top do not mix among the people. You are surrounded by security. You just pick up the phone and give orders. We know that. Thank God it is impossible for Gunny to reach you. The only thing you need to worry about is cocktails on your balcony or sailing off the coast, or meeting in some five-star joint surrounded by machine guns, or eating dinner in a restaurant, or getting into a car or getting out of a car. Other than that, you have nothing to fear. 
Needless to say, I pray daily that none of this happens. It won’t for sure if Dr. No survives the campaign intact. -  Alan Stang


Oh great,

Just keep ratcheting up the rhetoric as Ron Paul gains in momentum and whamo, hit job, and frame the revolt.  Everyone will be calling us the "terrorists", just in time for bio-chips and round ups (that is, if they really want to get the ball rolling....).

Great.  Oh well.  Bring it on!


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My girlfriend hates it, I always tell her that my awakening has made me immune to the fear of death. I'm sure that this feeling could waver in the moment I'd be staring down a cold steel barrel, but that will make any one contemplate their own thoughts. Never the less, I feel that fear of death is as is that I have accepted that it is inevitable, and that that is the one thing they could do to me, that would be best, for in death I know not of my shortcomings (dur I'm dead obviously)

Point being that death is the best thing they can offer, because in my eyes there is only two choices. My freedom, or death. In death I am assured in my place in passing. What I fear, is not being able to die, being enslaved to a ruling elite (already am now, but I mean by force as in RFID chips and etc.)

So I agree, if their wanting to spill my blood... then bring it, I will not be moved.

Death should not be something we fear, for we all will meet that point sometime in our life.
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« Reply #156 on: December 31, 2007, 07:54:00 AM »

My girlfriend hates it, I always tell her that my awakening has made me immune to the fear of death. I'm sure that this feeling could waver in the moment I'd be staring down a cold steel barrel, but that will make any one contemplate their own thoughts. Never the less, I feel that fear of death is as is that I have accepted that it is inevitable, and that that is the one thing they could do to me, that would be best, for in death I know not of my shortcomings (dur I'm dead obviously)

Point being that death is the best thing they can offer, because in my eyes there is only two choices. My freedom, or death. In death I am assured in my place in passing. What I fear, is not being able to die, being enslaved to a ruling elite (already am now, but I mean by force as in RFID chips and etc.)

So I agree, if their wanting to spill my blood... then bring it, I will not be moved.

Death should not be something we fear, for we all will meet that point sometime in our life.


I don't want to belabor your point, but I think you are a experiencing a phenomenon that has been in short supply in the modern western world:  Patriotic Spirit.  Its not the flag waveing, support the troops stickers kind of patriotism that merrily adorn self-righteous fools, no.  I mean the patriotism that comes from realizing that your fellow human beings have human rights and just a few twisted rich kids are trying to turn us all into their slaves.  The kind of patriotism that comes from loveing life, shareing that affinity, and guarding it against harm.  Its altruism,... and its our human right.  Bravo HellCatJr, bravo.
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« Reply #157 on: December 31, 2007, 09:12:09 AM »

Not to take anything away from anyone, but personally I do not consider myself brave, I just think that I have a greater than 50 IQ.  The plan is obvious: it is either death or unlivable slavery.  This a matter of practicality.  Give me Liberty of give me Death is a simple phrase that describes the current state of affairs. If we do not get liberty now, we (and the next 10 generations) are dead.  They really do intend to kill us, they have made that clear enough.
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« Reply #158 on: January 06, 2008, 06:13:54 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti9Uc8GeM_A

At 3:06 in this video, the comentator asks in regaurd to Ron Paul "How do we know he won't be president?"

Then a woman answers "Oh we'll fix that one."

I threw up in my mouth a little bit.
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« Reply #159 on: January 07, 2008, 01:57:30 AM »

I just saw that last clip. "oh we'll fix that." comment. Now I'm pissed, there is a soulless little demon who can barely speak or she might froth to much for the camera. Now I will check her out to see who she is. Other than complete filth.
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