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« on: September 17, 2010, 06:54:03 PM »

 

"A while back a horde of Christian (and some Muslim) conspiracy theorists declared war on pop stars they perceived to be 'occult illuminists'. Since then we've seen thousands of blog postings and video lectures  proving to us how Jay-Z and Lady GaGa in particular are trying to brainwash us all into accepting Lord Baphomet von Maitreya as our infernal lord and savior, and submit to new world order microchipping and so on and so forth.

One might imagine - given all of the time and effort that these internet crusaders put into their jeremiads - that the goal was to expose this devilry and bring down Jay and GaGa and their vast financial empires as punishment for their parts in this dastardly conspiracy.

So how's that working out for them? First Jay-Z:

    Jay-Z reigns supreme on Forbes magazine's latest edition of its "Hip-Hop Cash Kings" list, which ranks the estimated earnings of hip-hop's biggest stars over the past year. The rapper dwarfed his competition with $63 million earned over the last 12 months, according to the list released today (Aug. 17).

Huh. Not so good. How about Lady GaGa?

    Gaga can thank Virgin Mobile, Polaroid, Monster and Viva Glam for helping her earn $62 million between June 2009 and June 2010. The fact that her music is insanely popular doesn't hurt either. She earned $31 million from a 106-date tour and her video for Telephone (featuring Beyoncé) has been viewed 90 million times. Gaga's Internet presence is so strong that she ranks first on our list for Web hits and social networking.

Umm...

It's hard to quantify what kind of effect all of the righteous huffing and puffing has had on JZ or LGG's mammoth incomes, but I'll bet the farm any negative effect has been so minimal as to be statistically invisible. I would bet it's had the exact opposite effect- all of the blog and video attacks have invested stars like Jay-Z and Lady GaGa with a 'forbidden' mystique that money can't buy. It's the oldest trick in the book, as we recently discussed.

And this blowback effect is nothing new either- the Christian war on heavy metal in the 80s had much the same effect as we're seeing here. The PMRC censorship hearings in the Senate made instant stars of obscure acts like WASP and The Mentors, and the same blowback effect would make Marilyn Manson a household name in the 90s when he used scolds like Bill Bennett and Joe Lieberman as his unwitting PR men.

All of the controversy couldn't have worked better for Jay-Z if he tried. Literally- he dangled the bait and a whole lot of suckers took it, not realizing they were playing his game. The whole con is like some elaborate false flag operation. (false flag occultism?) I called it back in December, referring to Jay-Z's 'On to the Next One' video

    He's not worried about being "exposed"- he's depending on it. That's part of the game. Every con needs a shill, and dupes always make for the best shills.

Luckily for Jay, the groundwork for the scam has been laid by generations of hucksters and hysterics selling politically-motivated gossip as fact. Take the "Occult Nazi" meme; it kicked off in the old pulps, but has been reinforced through repetition to the point that's accepted as fact. It's shocking how many people will swear that the Nazi Party was one giant occult lodge run amok, though even a cursory review of the facts shows exactly the opposite:

    The full focus of the state was not aimed at religious groups until 9 June 1941 when Reinhard Heydrich, the head of the security police, banned lodge organizations and esoteric groups in the wake of the flight to Scotland by Rudolf Hess, who had been attracted and influenced by the organic farming theories of Rudolf Steiner and Anthroposophy. However, the suppression of esoteric organisations began very soon after the Nazis acquired governmental power. Dr. Anna Bramwell points out that "occultist racialists were banned as early as 1934."

Things got worse for esotericists after Rudolph Hess's disastrous attempt at solo diplomacy:

    Martin Bormann decided that the best way of presenting the story to the German people would be to announce that Hess was actually insane, and shortly afterwards it was announced that he had been crazed by 'hypnotists, astrologers and so on'. In Britain, The Times actually reported that Hess had been Hitler's private astrologer!

    This gave the Gestapo the excuse to clamp down on astrology in general, and those who had formerly enjoyed the protection of a sympathetic Himmler...(t)his delighted a number of members of the Nazi High Command, few of whom admired Himmler, and many of whom regarded him as deranged...along with faith healers, clairvoyants, graphologists, Christian Scientists and spiritualists, astrologers were definitely out of favour.

There's no shortage of data documenting the Nazis' cozy relationship with the Church, yet for some strange reason it's all been suppressed in favor of this "occult Nazi" false flag (or the "secular Nazi" meme you see in the media). Hitler was quite clear in his speeches where his own beliefs lay, and they had nothing to do with the occult.

The other bizarre aspect about all of this is that all of the esotericists/occultists/New Agers I could name off the top of my head - David Icke, Michael Tsarion, Jordan Maxwell, Tracy Twyman, Conscious Media Network, Iona Miller, Project Camelot, Steven Greer, Whitley Strieber, and Jaz Coleman (who we'll get to in part 2) - are all militantly anti-globalist, anti-corporatist, anti-collectivist, anti-authoritarian- you name it. In fact esotericism is itself oriented to the individual and not the collective. So why the persistence of this meme?

The whole "Occult/New Age new world order" meme emerged primarily from Fundamentalist researchers Texe Marrs and Constance Cumbey, who pored through the impenetrable writings of Alice Bailey, David Spengler and Benjamin Creme in order to paint a very scattered movement with the same brush (even if most New Agers hadn't even heard of those writers). It was the war against the New Age that made Bailey et al infamous. We'll get to Bailey later, but let's take a quick look at the other two...."

http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2010/09/secret-war-against-new-age-false-flags.html
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2010, 07:12:05 PM »

Good post here , I've been barking up this tree for awhile too.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2010, 07:19:32 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2010, 07:48:44 PM »

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One might imagine - given all of the time and effort that these internet crusaders put into their jeremiads - that the goal was to expose this devilry and bring down Jay and GaGa and their vast financial empires as punishment for their parts in this dastardly conspiracy.

The blogger missed the point of "exposing" the occultism.  It was to wake people up to realizing that pop music is crap, and that the corporate-controlled "artists" are s**ting on their audience.  Infowarriors like me won't necessarily reach millions to cause a substantive boycott, but if I can unlock 10 minds, then I have done my duty.

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Umm...

It's hard to quantify what kind of effect all of the righteous huffing and puffing has had on JZ or LGG's mammoth incomes, but I'll bet the farm any negative effect has been so minimal as to be statistically invisible. I would bet it's had the exact opposite effect- all of the blog and video attacks have invested stars like Jay-Z and Lady GaGa with a 'forbidden' mystique that money can't buy. It's the oldest trick in the book, as we recently discussed.

And this blowback effect is nothing new either- the Christian war on heavy metal in the 80s had much the same effect as we're seeing here. The PMRC censorship hearings in the Senate made instant stars of obscure acts like WASP and The Mentors, and the same blowback effect would make Marilyn Manson a household name in the 90s when he used scolds like Bill Bennett and Joe Lieberman as his unwitting PR men.

I can guarantee you that Gaga and Jay-Z aren't making their millions because dumbed-down masses are rebelling against Christianity. They are popular because MTV told you that they are popular, and Clear Channel's Top-40 radio stations told you that they are popular.  Now you have Google's YouTube telling you what's POPULAR. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V025E_b5I4g  explains this process)

A similar example is Soccer.  In the US, soccer was laughed at in the past.  Now it is super popular because ESPN shoved it down everyone's throat earlier this year.  24/7 coverage on game highlights, all of the networks covered it, and celebrities started tweeting about it.  Now, after the seeds have been heavily propagated, they are now starting to sprout.  Americans crave soccer now.  If I were to tell you back in 1995 that soccer would be popular in America 15 years from now, I would have been laughed out of the room.

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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2010, 07:54:51 PM »

Don't get me wrong I think the music sucks , though people are stupid with bad taste , but I don't see anything beyond making money for little talent , nothing nefarious beyond ripping people off.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2010, 08:27:03 PM »

Don't get me wrong I think the music sucks , though people are stupid with bad taste , but I don't see anything beyond making money for little talent , nothing nefarious beyond ripping people off.

These celebrities et al happen to be very popular and successful for a REASON - it's not like the same 'ole "rags to riches" story where supposedly they grew up in poor broken homes, and worked tooth and nails to get to the level they are. Basically, it's the generic same 'ole story with every celeb, politician, etc you can poke holes through.

Look at John Travolta - how many times was his career "dead", only to "make a comeback" out of nowhere? You can't deny that his ties to that occult Scientology has gotten him to where he is. Hollywood and the NWO pretty much promotes him(and others like Tom Cruise and Jenna Elfman) in order that their OWN cults like Scientology et al can deceive the masses.
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2010, 08:29:45 PM »

These celebrities et al happen to be very popular and successful for a REASON - it's not like the same 'ole "rags to riches" story where supposedly they grew up in poor broken homes, and worked tooth and nails to get to the level they are. Basically, it's the generic same 'ole story with every celeb, politician, etc you can poke holes through.

Look at John Travolta - how many times was his career "dead", only to "make a comeback" out of nowhere? You can't deny that his ties to that occult Scientology has gotten him to where he is. Hollywood and the NWO pretty much promotes him(and others like Tom Cruise and Jenna Elfman) in order that their OWN cults like Scientology et al can deceive the masses.

so theres no such thing as a person having talent thats mainstream???
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2010, 08:30:18 PM »


I wish it were all about the money ... in the so-called 'entertainment' world

as well as the 'government'. They are after the minds of the young ... so sad to

watch the mind control working on them so utterly.


And don't bring up Elvis the Pelvis from back in the day ... I have lived

through it all, and this is different.

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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2010, 08:38:41 PM »

I wish it were all about the money ... in the so-called 'entertainment' world

as well as the 'government'. They are after the minds of the young ... so sad to

watch the mind control working on them so utterly.


And don't bring up Elvis the Pelvis from back in the day ... I have lived

through it all, and this is different.



John Todd, the former Illuminati member who got out and converted to Christian, said that Rock N Roll is defined as "disturbing of the soul" and "fornication".

Yes - R&R music DOES have an affect on people of all ages, I agree. Even worse, this so-called "Christian Rock", which is HARDLY "Christian", has infiltrated churches since the 80's or so.
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I love music ... R&R, R&B, blues, classical, JAZZ, country, olde tyme, gospel ... I'm a picker myself, guitar (bluegrass) and piano (boogie-woogie) ... I'm a music collector and dealer ... I have about 30,000 LPs at the moment, tons of 78s from the 20s/30s, etc, etc.

I only say this to make the point that I'm not just bad-mouthing music per-se in a self-righteous way. Music to me is a MUST, it liberates the soul ... it's therapy for me ... it is one of man's best ever inventions.

Rather it's the whole ball of wax ... the ugly, degrading, dumbed-down culture that I deplore.

We bought season tickets this year to the University of New Mexico Lobos football ... only because our 5th grade kid begged us into it ... all his buds go. September 11, the first time I went to a football game since around 1978, when I used to photograph the University of Arizona games for UPI.

I was repulsed ... could barely sit through it. We have another game tomorrow night. Yikes!.  Embarrassed



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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2010, 08:58:01 PM »

Don't get me wrong I think the music sucks , though people are stupid with bad taste , but I don't see anything beyond making money for little talent , nothing nefarious beyond ripping people off.

I highlighted your admission in red.

'Nuff said.
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2010, 08:58:42 PM »


I love music ... R&R, R&B, blues, classical, JAZZ, country, olde tyme, gospel ... I'm a picker myself, guitar (bluegrass) and piano (boogie-woogie) ... I'm a music collector and dealer ... I have about 30,000 LPs at the moment, tons of 78s from the 20s/30s, etc, etc.

I only say this to make the point that I'm not just bad-mouthing music per-se in a self-righteous way. Music to me is a MUST, it liberates the soul ... it's therapy for me ... it is one of man's best ever inventions.

Rather it's the whole ball of wax ... the ugly, degrading, dumbed-down culture that I deplore.

We bought season tickets this year to the University of New Mexico Lobos football ... only because our 5th grade kid begged us into it ... all his buds go. September 11, the first time I went to a football game since around 1978, when I used to photograph the University of Arizona games for UPI.

I was repulsed ... could barely sit through it. We have another game tomorrow night. Yikes!.  Embarrassed





I kinda hate being in public, you get to see just how stupid "normal" peopel are.
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2010, 09:15:13 PM »

John Todd, the former Illuminati member who got out and converted to Christian, said that Rock N Roll is defined as "disturbing of the soul" and "fornication".

Yes - R&R music DOES have an affect on people of all ages, I agree. Even worse, this so-called "Christian Rock", which is HARDLY "Christian", has infiltrated churches since the 80's or so.

This article on Makow's website is definitely food for thought:
http://www.henrymakow.com/musicalscale.html

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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2010, 10:31:31 PM »

This article on Makow's website is definitely food for thought:
http://www.henrymakow.com/musicalscale.html



There's also the "Culteral Marxism" thread today over the 14 part youtube of this DVD - excellent film. Overall, the NWO has been trying to detroy the structure of the family for the last 50 years. Using products in film, music, et al has been one of their tools.
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The other bizarre aspect about all of this is that all of the esotericists/occultists/New Agers I could name off the top of my head - David Icke, Michael Tsarion, Jordan Maxwell, Tracy Twyman, Conscious Media Network, Iona Miller, Project Camelot, Steven Greer, Whitley Strieber, and Jaz Coleman (who we'll get to in part 2) - are all militantly anti-globalist, anti-corporatist, anti-collectivist, anti-authoritarian- you name it. In fact esotericism is itself oriented to the individual and not the collective. So why the persistence of this meme?



Why? Heres why...

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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2010, 05:32:58 AM »

I highlighted your admission in red.

'Nuff said.

That's actually not enough , perhaps you should qualify your cowardly accusation with something more than cvnt tactics..
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    The full focus of the state was not aimed at religious groups until 9 June 1941 when Reinhard Heydrich, the head of the security police, banned lodge organizations and esoteric groups in the wake of the flight to Scotland by Rudolf Hess, who had been attracted and influenced by the organic farming theories of Rudolf Steiner and Anthroposophy. However, the suppression of esoteric organisations began very soon after the Nazis acquired governmental power. Dr. Anna Bramwell points out that "occultist racialists were banned as early as 1934."

Things got worse for esotericists after Rudolph Hess's disastrous attempt at solo diplomacy:

    Martin Bormann decided that the best way of presenting the story to the German people would be to announce that Hess was actually insane, and shortly afterwards it was announced that he had been crazed by 'hypnotists, astrologers and so on'. In Britain, The Times actually reported that Hess had been Hitler's private astrologer!

    This gave the Gestapo the excuse to clamp down on astrology in general, and those who had formerly enjoyed the protection of a sympathetic Himmler...(t)his delighted a number of members of the Nazi High Command, few of whom admired Himmler, and many of whom regarded him as deranged...along with faith healers, clairvoyants, graphologists, Christian Scientists and spiritualists, astrologers were definitely out of favour.

There's no shortage of data documenting the Nazis' cozy relationship with the Church, yet for some strange reason it's all been suppressed in favor of this "occult Nazi" false flag (or the "secular Nazi" meme you see in the media). Hitler was quite clear in his speeches where his own beliefs lay, and they had nothing to do with the occult.


Best comic post I've seen in a long while.

Bet the author also thinks the Bush family are chrisitians, because that is what they say in public.
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2010, 12:59:41 PM »

I think some celebs are obviously conditioned along the way  and really hyped up and that's how they become really successful.. but I do think there's SOME.. that have talent no matter if they sing,act,sports,etc.. I know a few people who went into professional sports and believe me they weren't the richest kids in the world.. they were pretty poor actually.

so i do think SOME mainstream music,movies have talent.. but it's hard to spot out IMO... Because most of them realy do suck.. you have to dig deeper in the underground or just regular people like you and me who actually have talent in acting/singing/etc.
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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2010, 04:51:56 PM »

Part 2
This series is not about the New Age movement.

It's about how certain belief systems are privileged and how others are not and what that means for the future. It's about how the establishment dealt with a challenge to its monopoly on the creation and dissemination of belief systems. We still have other tactics and strategies from the secret war to look at (the 'Skeptic' movement, as well as a deeper look at the infiltration and commercialization of the New Age) and there are other instances of movements that didn't jibe with the overall capital 'P' Plan.

All of this fits into the mandate of The Secret Sun, which after all is about Culture, not religion or politics. And an increasingly important part of the Culture these days is conspiracy culture, which is predominantly a right wing and Fundamentalist culture (there is a considerable counterculture voice- or what I call the "Lone Gunmen" conspiracy theorists like Icke, Tsarion, Maxwell, etc - but all over the world, conspiracy theory is the province of religious extremists). The assumptions of this culture is that its beliefs are unassailable truth, and any deviation or dissent from that truth is evil. Not simply wrong, certainly not just a question of competing interests, but a cosmic evil.

This is a self-perpetuating impulse, in that billions of people don't share their views - can't share their views. Science, history, logic, reason, non-believers - and most especially - believers of competing sects present a constant, existential challenge to the apocalyptic worldview. So the culture will never be wanting for enemies. This is classic cult psychology, but it exists on a mass scale all over the world. It kinda makes you wonder if all of those cults that popped up like mushrooms in the 60s and 70s weren't simply field tests for a more comprehensive agenda.

But it also helps drive social trends in a larger context.

The Establishment has a dialectic that they reinforce constantly through the media, academia, and the political sphere. It's 'Red vs Blue', atheists vs fundamentalists, liberal vs conservative. The massive infrastructure of think tanks and foundations dictates the talking points and spends billions of dollars making sure that they are the respectable opinions to hold, and that everything outside the dialect is to be ridiculed and shunned, if not actively suppressed.

This is why we see a mirror image of the religious fundamentalists with the non-religious fundamentalists. Organized atheism was little more than a boogieman for Republican voters until fairly recently, until a charismatic and highly visible new class of media personalities- who were mostly already famous for other accomplishments- took up the cudgel and a huge and growing movement grew up practically overnight behind them.

They adopted some of the tactics - and members - of the prefab Skeptic movement (which was created to derail the New Age movement, which we'll get to soon) but don't waste time with small fry like palm readers or orgone therapists. They're going after the big boys - the Pope, the preachers, the imams. There aren't enough bitter, supercilious nerds to make the Skeptic movement anything more than a sideshow, but there are tens of millions of people tired of the concept of the religion itself, not just its excesses.

As tempting as it is to speculate on some grand Hegelian synthesis to come out of all of this, I think the real goal of this Dialectic is endless conflict.
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