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Cultural MarxismThe Corruption of America dvd (2010) 1/14 This documentary, produced by James Jaeger, shows how a group of Marxist theoreticians, calling themselves The Frankfurt School, plotted the corruption and overthrow of non-Communist nations by systematically undermining their cultures. Called Cultural Marxism, its goal is the use of art, music, education, and media to condition people to accept the essential elements of Marxism without identifying them as such. After a few generations of this conditioning, Marxism becomes the new reality without a violent revolution and even without awareness that a revolution has occurred. If you want to know how the nations of the world became increasingly Marxist in form, if not in name, here is the strategy. The film's opening statement by Pat Buchanan prepares the viewer for what is to follow: "The United States has undergone a cultural, moral, and religious revolution. ... We are two countries now. We are two countries morally, culturally, socially, and theologically. Cultural wars do not lend themselves to peaceful co-existence. One side prevails, or the other prevails. The truth is that, while we won the Cold War with political and economic Communism, we lost the war with cultural Marxism, which now is dominant. Those of us who are traditionalists, we are the counterculture." Includes testimony from G. Edward Griffin, Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan, Edwin Vieira, and Ted Baehr. DVD 98 mins http://www.youtube.com/user/biledemon3#p/c/CC55E7966B38A4AC/0/JdNZpKBZf4c
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2010, 08:40:54 AM » |
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"Called Cultural Marxism, its goal is the use of art, music, education, and media to condition people to accept the essential elements of Marxism without identifying them as such."
^ Right there! Those who blindly champion "freedom and democracy" without even knowing what it means, or those who have been duped into believing the idea that rugged indiviualism is flawed and cannot work. Thanks for the vid - sound like it's bang on the money.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2010, 09:02:30 AM » |
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As most Prison Planet Forum members already know, one of the key methods by which an overprivileged few are able to control the many is through the creation and systematic use of "false paradigms." In the world of electoral politics we have the false Democrat-vs.-Republican paradigm. In the world of political ideology we have several false paradigms, the most predominant of which apppears to be the false Austrian School "capitalism"-vs.-Marxist "socialism" paradigm. And in the world of culture we have the false socially-engineered materialism/consumerism-vs.-Christian theocracy paradigm. No thanks.
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2010, 11:33:43 AM » |
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You need to watch this to have an opinion that counts with me sorry, I am funny that way.  It was a prety damned good flick is all I can tell you.
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2010, 11:38:28 AM » |
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"Called Cultural Marxism, its goal is the use of art, music, education, and media to condition people to accept the essential elements of Marxism without identifying them as such."
^ Right there! Those who blindly champion "freedom and democracy" without even knowing what it means, or those who have been duped into believing the idea that rugged indiviualism is flawed and cannot work. Thanks for the vid - sound like it's bang on the money.
That sums it up pretty well and it will be a super tool to inform others. Even folks here get fooled. I have to re think things on occation.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2010, 11:47:49 AM » |
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I thought this was an excellent flick!
It breaks it down nice and neat.
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2010, 11:58:59 AM » |
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Thanks Donna !
I will watch .
Geolib, I will also keep your criticism in mind, as I do value your opinion.
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2010, 03:45:43 PM » |
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I was curious to see if anyone else had gotten a chance to view this yet? and of course opinions afterwards. At first glance I was not sure but thought it could be informative and after viewing I was pleasently surprised.
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2010, 06:41:46 PM » |
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Watching it now and it's very good! I guess about 2 hours?
Something that came up, "Term Limits", got me thinking: Would you want to limit a guy like Ron Paul to two terms, regardless of his value to you as an American citizen, not to mention the country? Say in just 5 years he managed to reduce the size and scope of government by 30% while at the same time eliminating the idea of state-imposed minimum wage. Things are improving but Ron is gone so the shadow elite move in.
Oh and marxism, communism, socialism and fascism are all collective totalitarian concepts by nature, and totalitarianism just means top-down control. The only alternative to that is freedom! You either have it or you dont: take your pick!
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2010, 06:47:57 PM » |
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films ok very important message could be much better because there is so much depth to this topic
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2010, 07:08:02 PM » |
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Watching it now and it's very good! I guess about 2 hours?
Something that came up, "Term Limits", got me thinking: Would you want to limit a guy like Ron Paul to two terms, regardless of his value to you as an American citizen, not to mention the country? Say in just 5 years he managed to reduce the size and scope of government by 30% while at the same time eliminating the idea of state-imposed minimum wage. Things are improving but Ron is gone so the shadow elite move in.
Oh and marxism, communism, socialism and fascism are all collective totalitarian concepts by nature, and totalitarianism just means top-down control. The only alternative to that is freedom! You either have it or you dont: take your pick!
Yes if we were to have term limits I do not believe exemptions should be allowed. I would truly miss Dr.Paul but he will not be around forever and the Byrds,Kennedy's,Hatch's ect would not be able to stack the deck against us year after year as they aquired wealth and corrupt power to use against the American people not to mention the world. As far as the marxist socialist commumism links, if I remember that was the point of the beginning of the film. I may watch it again later tonight if I can stay awake and see what else I can pick up.
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2010, 07:17:36 PM » |
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Cultural MarxismThe Corruption of America dvd (2010) 1/14 This documentary, produced by James Jaeger, shows how a group of Marxist theoreticians, calling themselves The Frankfurt School, plotted the corruption and overthrow of non-Communist nations by systematically undermining their cultures. Called Cultural Marxism, its goal is the use of art, music, education, and media to condition people to accept the essential elements of Marxism without identifying them as such. After a few generations of this conditioning, Marxism becomes the new reality without a violent revolution and even without awareness that a revolution has occurred. If you want to know how the nations of the world became increasingly Marxist in form, if not in name, here is the strategy. The film's opening statement by Pat Buchanan prepares the viewer for what is to follow: "The United States has undergone a cultural, moral, and religious revolution. ... We are two countries now. We are two countries morally, culturally, socially, and theologically. Cultural wars do not lend themselves to peaceful co-existence. One side prevails, or the other prevails. The truth is that, while we won the Cold War with political and economic Communism, we lost the war with cultural Marxism, which now is dominant. Those of us who are traditionalists, we are the counterculture." Includes testimony from G. Edward Griffin, Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan, Edwin Vieira, and Ted Baehr. DVD 98 mins http://www.youtube.com/user/biledemon3#p/c/CC55E7966B38A4AC/0/JdNZpKBZf4c saved for later viewing
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2010, 07:42:51 PM » |
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I just finished watching the whole documentary and I think it was fantastic!!
I am definitely in favor of term limits. I am so tired of the career politicians. I would miss Dr. Paul, but if limits were set there cannot be any double standards.
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2010, 07:47:58 PM » |
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I just finished watching the whole documentary and I think it was fantastic!!
I am definitely in favor of term limits. I am so tired of the career politicians. I would miss Dr. Paul but if limits were set there can be no double standards.
I used to feel that way but then I had a business partner who I clicked with and thought, he's perfect. It makes no sense to dismiss such an asset because of some stats. PS - I reserve the right to flip-flop on this issue in the days and decades ahead. 
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2010, 08:43:29 PM » |
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some snags in the movie...
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2010, 08:49:40 PM » |
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what type of snags? It played well for me exept that if I watched in full screen I had to minimize it and then remaximize it or else watch it all in the smaller version which worked well for me as it kept me from falling asleep as the hour was late.
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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2010, 09:10:34 PM » |
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Not technical snags but "educational ones".
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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2010, 10:38:24 PM » |
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Just viewed the darn thing-Excellent! Yah, very informative - we can be destroyed for a lack of knowledge. The NWO has been very creative in warring against us.
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2010, 08:06:35 AM » |
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Oh and marxism, communism, socialism and fascism are all collective totalitarian concepts by nature, and totalitarianism just means top-down control. The only alternative to that is freedom! "Freedom" as defined by the Religious Right: http://www.theocracywatch.org http://www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htmAnd if you don't agree with the fundamentalist dogma of the Religious Right, then by definition you're a flaming Marxist/communist/socialist/fascist, and hence a despicable enemy of "freedom." Nope, nothing at all divisive about that. 
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2010, 11:50:19 AM » |
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So are you saying this documentary was directed by the Religious right? If so, I take umbrage to that remark. To me that is like saying, because I am Italian I must be in the Mafia! I found this documentary great with pointing out how Marxism crept into our culture, and how it is taking this country down.
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2010, 01:51:26 PM » |
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The "religious right" is HARDLY "Christian" - they just MERELY have the OUTWARD appearance of being pro-Israel and pro-family values because it's how they got their foot in the door INFILTRATING churches, and QUIETLY ramming through New Age doctrines contrary to the bible. For the most part, both the "religious right" and "religious left" believe in Dominionism - which is really nothing more than Communism/Socialism/Facism. So please don't lump the "religious right" in with the Christian community-thank you.
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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2010, 08:17:34 PM » |
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WTF?  At 8:30 of part 6 he says "over 50% of U.S. citizens work for the government at the federal, state or local level". http://www.youtube.com/user/biledemon3#p/c/CC55E7966B38A4AC/5/mM-ARQnP0nA
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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2010, 08:29:08 PM » |
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I had heard of this before but could never get a good explanation for those numbers. Does anyone have figures? I would like to see just how many are employed by our handlers.
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2010, 08:37:41 PM » |
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I had heard of this before but could never get a good explanation for those numbers. Does anyone have figures? I would like to see just how many are employed by our handlers.
I'm beginning to believe that this is the goal: to have us all work for them. I've been self-emplyed for about 15 years and I can honestly say that they treat me as their enemy. I'm talking about the three levels of government who not only tax me, but force me to collect tax from my customers, and give it to them, and if I don't, they can ultimately just ask your bank to take it out of your account for them, and this the bank will do - because the government told them they have to. Freedom?
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I'm beginning to believe that this is the goal: to have us all work for them. I've been self-emplyed for about 15 years and I can honestly say that they treat me as their enemy. I'm talking about the three levels of government who not only tax me, but force me to collect tax from my customers, and give it to them, and if I don't, they can ultimately just ask your bank to take it out of your account for them, and this the bank will do - because the government told them they have to. Freedom?
Lindsey Williams talked about this on Alex's show, he said that by 2012 more than half the Americans will be employed by government. I say in the near future, the only jobs available will be prison guards and prisoners. 
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So how do true American Patriots feel about half their people working for Uncle Sam?
If the number is true, and I'll bet it is if you do the real math and add in all of those "private companies" who depend on governments as customers, then we have before us a very simple problem. The government (all governments) are too big and they do too much. We need to eliminate 80% of it because "it" is what allows corruption to thrive.
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So how do true American Patriots feel about half their people working for Uncle Sam?
If the number is true, and I'll bet it is if you do the real math and add in all of those "private companies" who depend on governments as customers, then we have before us a very simple problem. The government (all governments) are too big and they do too much. We need to eliminate 80% of it because "it" is what allows corruption to thrive.
I am not happy about it--government produces nothing but war, death and destruction, therefore, I want no part of their employment packages. 
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« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2010, 09:03:37 AM » |
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So are you saying this documentary was directed by the Religious right? I'm saying that, even if it wasn't, it may as well have been, because I've been following the Religious Right for well over a decade, and practically everything in that video comes straight out of their playbook. If you can cite examples to the contrary, I'd love to see them. If so, I take umbrage to that remark. To me that is like saying, because I am Italian I must be in the Mafia! No it's not, because whoever wrote the script for that video has much more in common with the Religious Right than the mere fact that both claim to be "Christian." I invite anyone who doubts this to read the following and then compare it to the content of said video: http://www.theocracywatch.orgI found this documentary great with pointing out how Marxism crept into our culture, and how it is taking this country down. The problem is that it arrogantly implies over and over again that if you don't agree with Christian fundamentalism, then you are, by default, a flaming pinko commie. That's no different in principle, and no less ridiculous, than Repubican Party hacks insisting that anyone who isn't a Republican is an Obama-worshipping Democrat, and Democratic Party hacks insisting that anyone who isn't a Democrat is a Glenn Beck-worshipping Republican. It's divide-and-rule propaganda, nothing more. Another way of enslaving the minds of the masses within the narrow confines of a "false paradigm."
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THE DOGMA OF Marxism is also an established-fascist imperial-monarchist right-wing "theocratic gnostic-dogmatist" religion. The fact that it outlaws all other established corporate-socialist religionisms makes it somewhat more extreme though no less radical than other established tribal-racist-eugenic corporate-religious-socialisms which merely survive off the lucrative business of hating one-another and agnostic non-slaves.
"Because they didn't know better, they called it 'civilization,' when it was [actually] part of their slavery." ~Tacitus
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“It wasn’t necessary to assault democracy so frontally. The American ‘party-system provided America’s industrializing elites with the insulation they needed against the challenges to which the prior establishment of democratic institutions made them vulnerable,’ writes Andrew Martin, an interpreter of [Walter Dean] Burnham’s work. The party system—the structure and terms of political competition—insulated industrialism [read: corporate fascism] from democracy through a politics of distraction, based on the manipulation of real hatreds and sham issues.” “From the Greenbackers in the late 1870s to the Populists in the early 1890s, the two-party duopoly successfully co-opted insurgencies and either defused anger with ‘reform’ or channeled it into cultural issues. ‘Political conflict is not like an intercollegiate debate in which the opponents agree in advance on the definition of the issue,’ E. E. Schattschneider writes in The Semisovereign People. “ As a matter of fact, the definition of the alternatives is the supreme instrument of power….He who determines what politics is about runs the country.’ As Plato dramatized in the allegory of the cave, power gets to say what counts as real.” -- Jack Beatty, Age of Betrayal, pp. 199-200 “In his People’s Party Paper, Tom Watson, the Populist congressman from Georgia, appealed to white and black farmers to meet on common ground: ‘You are kept apart that you may be fleeced separately of your earnings. You are made to hate each other because upon that hatred is rested the keystone of the arch of the financial despotism which enslaves you both. You are deceived and blinded that you may not see how this race antagonism perpetuates a monetary system which beggars both.’” -- Jack Beatty, Age of Betrayal, p. 214 “The student of the Gilded Age confronts a mystery: What reverse alchemy transformed mass enthusiasm into policies disfavoring the masses? Put another way, Why, if politics ignored their needs, did roughly 30 percent more Americans than now vote then? A hypothesis consistent with much of the contemporary evidence and with the lore of rule from Roman history to Machiavelli to Karl Rove is the politics of distraction. The parties exploited sectional, racial, cultural, and religious cleavages to win office, then turned government over to the corporations. Sound familiar? ‘ Vote to stop abortion; receive a rollback in capital gains taxes…. Vote to get government off our backs; receive conglomeration and monopoly everywhere from media to meat-packing. Vote to stand tall against terrorists; receive a social order in which wealth is more concentrated than ever before in our lifetimes, in which workers have been stripped of power and CEOs are rewarded in a manner beyond imagining.’ That’s Thomas Frank, the contemporary social critic, in What’s the Matter with Kansas? How Conservatives Won the Heart of America (2004). Working-class voters in Kansas (and America), Frank argues, have been gulled into voting against their economic interests by today’s GOP, which, to borrow Ross Perot’s lingual felicity, has blinded them with the ‘gorilla dust’ of ‘social issues’ like abortion and gun control.” -- Jack Beatty, Age of Betrayal, pp. 221-2 Keep the above in mind as you read the following: “What’s the problem [for] the U.S. ruling elite?....Their basic problem is that the foreclosures, the unemployment, the arrogance of Wall Street -- their thievery -- generates tremendous resentment. So what do you do? You’ve got to channel that rage of the masses against the masses themselves. In other words, you’ve got to dupe people into wanting to cut their own throats. And without Obama you couldn’t do it. If Obama or the Democrats had taken the lead of an anti-Wall Street pitchfork brigade, they could have channeled mass rage where it belonged: against the people that actually created the derivatives panic -- that would be Diamond, Pandit, Blankfein, Mack, Lewis…and these characters. As Obama said to them: ‘I’m the only one between the pitchforks and you.’ Well, that means Obama is getting skewered by the pitchforks. All the progressive causes are skewered by the pitchforks, and a lot of decent candidates are getting swept away, and you’ve got the Tea Party fanatics coming in. Now, what’s their program? Their program is the program of the most aggressive wing -- the most reactionary wing -- of finance capital. That is: to destroy entitlements; to destroy Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, child labor laws, minimum wage, food stamps -- you name it, they’re against it. They want the law of the jungle, the full fury of the depression visited on the naked flesh of the American people -- that’s the Tea Party as it is right now. So you’ve got to essentially use social demagogy of the Tea Party types to make the American people cut their own throats. It’s not going to be that easy, with 44% of housholds benefiting from Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid, but they are going to try it. And the main question is, How soon can you dump Obama? Because as long as Obama is there, this demagogy will work. It will tend to be more and more effective.” “William F. Buckley…sponsored [Rush] Limbaugh, knowing, of course, [that] the only way you can dupe the masses into cutting their own throat is to use cultural populism, because as soon as the argument gets to economic policies in any real sense, the right-wing position can’t win. I mean: how are you going to convince 44% of U.S. households to cut their own throats on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security? Well, you’ve got to whip them up into a hysteria. And, of course, the defense of privilege: [Glenn] Beck, this week, says: ‘The wealthy people in the United States have worked hard for the money they’ve got, and we should praise the wealthy for their contributions.’ Yeah, because they bought 1.5 quadrillion dollars of derivatives. But here’s what we want to do: let’s point to this tremendous hypocrisy, this tremendous dupery that’s going on, where the rich backers remain in the background and continue to pursue their patrician lifestyles while we have these gutter snipe operatives like Limbaugh or O’Donnell in the foreground….Let’s look at these Koch brothers…who are they? They are the third richest people in the United States in terms of private money, surpassed only by Bill Gates and Warren Buffett….With this money they have founded the Americans for Prosperity Foundation, through which -- with operatives like Peggy Venable -- they run the Tea Party. And make no mistake: they micromanage, but not directly. In other words, they’re on the phone, but they’re not always in every meeting. One of their advisers says: 'This right-wing, redneck stuff works for them.' Yeah, it does. This 'right-wing, redneck stuff' -- cultural populism: guns, God, gays -- this is the stock-in-trade of the Koch brothers."
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