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« on: September 16, 2010, 11:20:31 AM »

In an interview on the morning of 9/11 Porter Goss confirms they had envisioned using planes as weapons before 9/11. During his interview a loud BOOM can be heard. An ABC piece also confirms that George Bush and Condoleezza Rice had not been truthful in their statements.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DssnHI-mGVY




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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2010, 06:37:21 PM »

Excellent find!

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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2010, 01:05:16 AM »

What I find  MOST interesting is the boom of the pentagon in the background, then everyone looking up as a plane (or planes) fly overhead... very curious what they were looking at (and listening to... i.e. the sound of a jet flying by)
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2010, 11:50:32 AM »

What I find  MOST interesting is the boom of the pentagon in the background, then everyone looking up as a plane (or planes) fly overhead... very curious what they were looking at (and listening to... i.e. the sound of a jet flying by)

I agree. I hope my statement gets scrutinized. I beleive it's TRUTH, so here goes...

It's clear by the existing evidence their were two flight paths directed at the Pentagon, one official and one by eye witnesses/NTSB that conflict eachother. The bent light poles, broken windshield glass clearly indicate 1 DEFINITIVE path(official story)

The other path is quite different. The American Flight77 flight path as provided by NTSB/#77 data recorder is similar to eye witnesses at the Citgo gas station, including two police officers fueling their car at Citgo as the plane flew over. Vid.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-Q8nSEeUec&feature=player_embedded#!

So which flight path is official? Wait, I think we just confirmed that there were TWO planes. One crashed into, the other flew over.
Sources(Pilots for 9/11 truth)

The video in the first post corresponds with the theory, one crash, one continual flight. Correct?
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2010, 12:07:06 PM »

to followup on the character of Porter Goss, here is an interesting bit of info....
if anyone was aware of the attacks before hand, it would be this man...


On the morning of September 11, the three lawmakers Bob Graham, Porter Goss and Jon Kyl (who were part of the Congressional delegation to Pakistan) were having breakfast on Capitol Hill with General Ahmad, the alleged "money-man" behind the 9-11 hijackers. Also present at this meeting were Pakistan's ambassador to the U.S. Maleeha Lodhi and several members of the Senate and House Intelligence committees were also present. This meeting was described by one press report as a "follow-up meeting" to that held in Pakistan in late August. "On 8/30, Senate Intelligence Committee chair Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL) 'was on a mission to learn more about terrorism.' (…) On 9/11, Graham was back in DC 'in a follow-up meeting with' Pakistan intelligence agency chief Mahmud Ahmed and House Intelligence Committee chair Porter Goss (R-FL)" 3 (The Hotline, 1 October 2002):

"When the news [of the attacks on the World Trade Center] came, the two Florida lawmakers who lead the House and Senate intelligence committees were having breakfast with the head of the Pakistani intelligence service. Rep. Porter Goss, R-Sanibel, Sen. Bob Graham and other members of the House Intelligence Committee were talking about terrorism issues with the Pakistani official when a member of Goss' staff handed a note to Goss, who handed it to Graham. "We were talking about terrorism, specifically terrorism generated from Afghanistan," Graham said.


Source: http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO308C.html
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2010, 11:51:58 PM »

Let's really breakdown the Porter Goss section of this vid from a bystander's point of view(at Pentagon). Pardon my poor geography of D.C., I'm learning.  Smiley

Let's also analyze the sound sequence at the point of impact(officially Flight77) at 9:37 and shortly after as captured in this Interview...



Where is this interview being held? on Pentagon property? 
Which way is the camera facing?
Can anyone identify other people in this vid? <this may lead to a location at time of interview!

The plane appears to have traveled very near the people within camera view. The sound gets incredibly loud, ear piercing. Close enough to force them to look up. Unfortunately, their eyes don't appear to be locked on a specific thing in the sky. Sun glare seems to be a major problem at that location.

At 0:48 seconds the Boom is heard, it isn't until 10 seconds later,0:58 the jet engine/whoosh sound enters. Is there a way that a plane could impact a building first, then the sound later reaches this interview location. Does the doppler effect work this way?

Where there any confirmed military jets within 2 miles of the Pentagon? If what we hear in the video is military fighter jet flying by, why wasn't Flight 77 intercepted in it's long(time)banking 360 turn over a hour after the WTC was hit?

What does the fly-by plane sound like to you? a fighter jet aircraft? or large commercial plane?

I think it's fascinating, the fact that Flight 77 came out of it's long banked 360 spiral, heading Due EAST! Heading directly into the blinding morning glare. Anyone who gazed East would struggle to look, even with sunglasses. Trust me, I spent 4 years driving due East in the mornings on the way to work in the big city. I do understand this is might just one be one small part of the Hundreds of distractions going on the morning of 9/11. moving on...

We could agree that this Porter Goss interview was recording live at point of Pentagon impact aka "Boom", correct?

With help from a FOIA,
Pilots for 9/11 truth also raised a big question about the True Altitude at impact of Flight77 versus pressure altitude. The pilots have argued, at last point of data transmission, the plane was to high to impact the Pentagon. As in my earlier post, they have also concluded that the NTSB Flight path of #77 was different than eyewitness testimony.

I would really like someone to debate this with me. I know I am a newb, but try me. I'm not scared of being wrong.



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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2010, 12:03:37 AM »

I would also like to note.

For 2 planes to be traveling at the same speed/distance from target, on two different courses, AND both directed at the Pentagon would need to be precisely controlled. For one plane to impact at exactly the same time the other was cresting over the top of the Pentagon, could be considered a wild theory. I think it's plausible.

If correct, it would explain alot of the questions that Pilots for 9/11 truth and myself have raised.

This is a challenge.

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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2010, 02:40:06 AM »

BIG TIME BUMP!!!

Who were the reporters conducting the interview?  Who else was there?  It must be possible to track this down.  Looks like NatGeo had access to the video... where did they get it from?

What did those folks see flying above?  Surely they remember.  
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2010, 12:49:17 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2010, 08:42:55 PM »

I would also like to note.

For 2 planes to be traveling at the same speed/distance from target, on two different courses, AND both directed at the Pentagon would need to be precisely controlled. For one plane to impact at exactly the same time the other was cresting over the top of the Pentagon, could be considered a wild theory. I think it's plausible.

If correct, it would explain alot of the questions that Pilots for 9/11 truth and myself have raised.

This is a challenge.


Yea, well there are several problems with this. First pilots for truth exists to keep no plane theories alive. If they admit a passenger jet hit the pentagon they are out of business. Also...

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one plane to impact at exactly the same time the other was cresting over the top of the Pentagon, could be considered a wild theory. I think it's plausible.

UH.............why? You're going to fly a plane into the building, and then the second plane flying over the pentagon is there .........just for fun to see if anyone notices? Come on.

on 9-11 planes flew into buildings. One of those buildings was the pentagon.

See her? There are lots of others just like her. A witness who was there, this interview is 40 minutes after the impact, so any idea that "she's just going along with the official story" is BS, because there was no "official story". 9-11 was still going on. This is 40 minutes after the impact......
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ihc1_pentagon-eyewitness-isabel-james_news

And this guy? He was on the roof of a nearby building. This is just one reason of many that no plane is going to be flying over the pentagon. Because people would see it. People like this guy.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HBjxYrhI4E&feature=related

IMO the boom you're hearing is probably a sonic boom of the F-16s coming to the rescue after the attacks are over. If we knew the time of the video, then we'd know for sure.

f-16 sonic boom.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN4qtsQck_8&feature=related

The point of the video was to show Porter Goss contradicting Rice and Bush who both state that no one in Government could ever imagine that anyone would try and fly planes into buildings when certain elements of the intelligence community knew it was an old plan........

As Shure points out in the original post....

An ABC piece also confirms that George Bush and Condoleezza Rice had not been truthful in their statements.

They knew about the plan for years.....

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=29217.0

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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2010, 09:56:14 AM »

can you imagine trying to find the Pentagon with no help from air traffic control and no transponder. this is a miracle. truly. first time in a jumbo jet and you can navigate the united states and fly your plane X amount of miles, after subduing a former Marine pilot, and then making a bad ass right turn at 500MPH. Hani Hanjour is one bad motherf**ker, if that is what really happened. I couldn't do it.

I can see myself, looking at the control panel... OK... I am just going to focus on flying... so I am looking out the window... hey... I have never seen any of this shit... ever before... I have no help or support... and I am going to not only find the Pentagon, but crash into it... and fly super duper fast... OK...
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2010, 10:44:34 AM »

BIG TIME BUMP!!!

Who were the reporters conducting the interview?  Who else was there?  It must be possible to track this down.  Looks like NatGeo had access to the video... where did they get it from?

What did those folks see flying above?  Surely they remember.  

It sounds like Joe Johns from CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/anchors_reporters/johns.joe.html



Here's video that you can uses to comare his voice to the one in the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MU6M9AIkT8
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