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« on: September 12, 2010, 04:58:40 PM »

Watching all the new footage shown on the history channels video "102 minutes that changed Amercia" has me asking this question today.

How was buiding 7 evacuated so early and fast?

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While all the other building in the area, are still streaming out people, the third largest building is completly empty, except for a few secret service guards on floors 1 & 2.

1) All other buildings had curiosity seekers, moving up to get a good vantage point, of the fires on the first impacted building.  I guess this tall building did not... Tongue

2) Given the size of the building, there surely is a lot of workers in it.  So I guess they had the best evacuation plans in effect ever.  Even the folks in the bathrooms got out fast.

3) The police and fire crews did an amazing job of sweeping the building.
Not only did they climb all 49 or such floors, they came back down before the hour too!
They also did that with people streaming down stairs, because surely not everyone could evacuate via elevator during such a small window.

4) Most importantly, they were sure that everyone was out of the building!!!!  In less than 1 hour, every nook and cranny of the building was checked.  To the point, that no search crews were still searching!!

5) After the fires started, no fire fighter response?  I guess they were 100% certain no one was in the building...  Can you say very early evacuations? Why yes you can...

6) No on died in building 7.  Enough said.
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2010, 05:05:38 PM »

caus Silverstein ordered them to pull it  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2010, 03:50:50 AM »

caus Silverstein ordered them to pull it  Roll Eyes

Indeed. Perhaps he said that on 9/11/2000.

More thoughts:

How is it, that some of the most valuable secrets held in all of America were kept in building 7.   Yet, the building was almost entirely left unsecure soon after the initial hit?  The place should have been crawling with security.

Where is all the footage showing the building collapse, that collaborates that it started on floor 13?  Let's see those missing frontal views.

How did any first responders sweep through building 7 anyway?  I'm sure most of it was very secure with things like keypads, optical scanners and voice activators.
So, given the fragmented nature of anyone's ability to sweep the building and make sure it's clear, almost no one would have had the ability to check out vast area's without some pre authorization.

But then again, none of my points matter because 9/11 was an inside job!
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Ok, so they do matter.  More fuel to the fire of stuff that cannot be rationally explaned.

Perhaps we will some people brought to justice for mass murder someday?
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2010, 04:07:03 AM »

Building 7 is the smoking gun itself, not the towers. They are using the twin towers as a misdirection, to create an illusion. They keep the focus on them, so people won't dwell on 7 and the Pentagon where huge holes exist in their claims. Just like they quickly got rid of the steel and debris in the chaos afterwards.

Another tactic they are using is in making this a "war", and not a criminal investigation. If 9/11 were treated as a civil crime scene, and not an act of war where the military takes the lead, then the way they cleared the debris could be considered destroying evidence. In war, they don't look at the destruction, they just react to the action of the enemy, and restoring civil order and cleaning up the mess. A completely different way of handling the scene of the event.

The US and others have a vested interest in calling it a war, and not a crime.
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2010, 04:24:35 AM »

Indeed LeftyLeo, the smoking gun it is indeed.


What really cracks me up about building 7 is how they missed thier golden oppurtunity with it.

If they had the building collapse while the last standing tower collapsed, they avoid the whole building 7 situation.  Almost everyone would have assumed, that is was crushed by the falling tower.  And with all the smoke obscuring things, there would be very little evidence of foul play.
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2010, 05:25:07 AM »


6) No on died in building 7.  Enough said.

maybe they did.. 

remember Larry Jennings ?
http://barryjenningsmystery.blogspot.com/
http://uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/e8c77e80-6911-4541-a6cc-9358a1ab120c
http://www.infowars.com/fabled-enemies-barry-jennings-wtc-7-survivor/

his strange death is worth looking at
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2010, 11:55:05 AM »

Thanks for that frenchlifeboat.

It shows just how early the building was evacuated.  Probably even before the second plane hit.  Very likely before the first hit.

RIP Larry Jennings.  May you get justice.
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2010, 12:57:14 PM »

Watching all the new footage shown on the history channels video "102 minutes that changed Amercia" has me asking this question today.

How was buiding 7 evacuated so early and fast?

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While all the other building in the area, are still streaming out people, the third largest building is completly empty, except for a few secret service guards on floors 1 & 2.

1) All other buildings had curiosity seekers, moving up to get a good vantage point, of the fires on the first impacted building.  I guess this tall building did not... Tongue

2) Given the size of the building, there surely is a lot of workers in it.  So I guess they had the best evacuation plans in effect ever.  Even the folks in the bathrooms got out fast.

3) The police and fire crews did an amazing job of sweeping the building.
Not only did they climb all 49 or such floors, they came back down before the hour too!
They also did that with people streaming down stairs, because surely not everyone could evacuate via elevator during such a small window.

4) Most importantly, they were sure that everyone was out of the building!!!!  In less than 1 hour, every nook and cranny of the building was checked.  To the point, that no search crews were still searching!!

5) After the fires started, no fire fighter response?  I guess they were 100% certain no one was in the building...  Can you say very early evacuations? Why yes you can...

6) No on died in building 7.  Enough said.

Hundreds (likely total) of already badly-wounded bombing victim witnesses, fire and healthcare triage workers where mass murdered by truck (or otherwise planted) lobby bombs there on the ground and second floors (all the way up to the sixth floor) in building 7 early that morning!.

Barry Jennings reported the gruesome scene as they were lead over the corpses by rescuers after the truck bombings (before the demolition) as he was told to "close his eyes" as they "stepped over the corpses"!

IT is over a football field away from any of the other twin towers.

Building 7 was the ZioNAZI's planned and premeditated front entrance and exit only, massive ground floor lobby (same bad architectural design - tested out by them on the Murraugh Building years earlier) "TRIAGE DEATHCAMP FOR WOUNDED BOMBING WITNESSES!"

All ambulances where being stopped blocks away so that they could be "collected" for their death there and the criminal mass murderer mob-boss Giulliani NEVER WENT THERE TO "HIS" CRITICAL HI-TECH EMERGENCY COMMAND CENTER NOR EVER EVEN PLANNED TO!

THE key to initiating the demolitions of towers 1&2  involved FIRST setting off concrete blast and cutter charges in the basements of those buildings timed to coincide with the phony-air crashes. This early basement explosion stage of the demolitions was reported by the "keymaster" Bob Rodriguez and many others. THE evidence for this is the extensive damage to the interiors of ground lobbies (mirrors popped off walls, structural glass broken and floors sagged and ceiling fallen) caused by the "demolition-initiating" load-shift of the structure's core weights to the outer steel core.

THE trade centers had a "space frame" design (common to all modern office building engineering masterpieces today, not stacked "box frames") so the first thing you have to do to implode one, is to cut blow out and destroy the basement concrete and steel central-tower-core support footings so the weight of the central core and floors will have somewhere to fall into and "PULL-IN" the secondary massive outer-steel-frame "outer-can" core, as they are later cut in sections, blown and then and collapse straight downwards, into this already freshly-made "free-drop" space that is now available, below.

THEN, AFTER your Thermite cutter charges have prepped the beams. you detonate 25 or so (tractor trailer height 3 story high) RDX charges to blast away story-height  central concrete-core supports (so the steel, concrete and floors can fall ground-up like massive sequential demo-hammers)  It's just as the firefighters reported "Boom, boom, boom all the way down"

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You see, what they feared most, was too many surviving first hand witnesses to these hard to explain early morning basement demolition bombings! The WTC towers were three separate, stacked on top of each other firewalled buildings! THERE is no way any "jet fuel" could leak down to the ground by any "elevator nor air shaft"! There were no express elevators, all the way up,  there were two "Sky Lobbies" to designed and planned specifically prevent this then well-known "Towering Inferno"-hazard situation...

The criminal Silverstein's "criminalsecurity goons" were still specifically ordering their mass-murder victims to "stay put in their offices" in WTC 2 (to keep such witness-victims out of the lobbies there) over the WTC 2 intercoms (and entering in the lobbies)  to "stay put" LONG AFTER THEY KNEW FULL WELL THAT THEY HAD ALREADY EVACUATED WTC 7...
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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2010, 01:19:28 PM »

"No on died in building 7.  Enough said."

I said that in the context of the 'official' reports.

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With that in mind, during the cleanup, wasn't building 7 cleared first?

With no bodies to look for, they could just scoop up material in mass.  (Bodies included.)

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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2010, 02:05:34 PM »

"No on died in building 7.  Enough said."

I said that in the context of the 'official' reports.

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With that in mind, during the cleanup, wasn't building 7 cleared first?

With no bodies to look for, they could just scoop up material in mass.  (Bodies included.)



And also, by the way, how does one explain that the WTC 7 is even further away from WTC 1 than it is from WTC 2 and they (Silverstein's "security" criminals) were still telling their highly prized Daniel Chapter 8 Show victims there to "stay put" even after it was hit while they had already (closed and/or) evacuated WTC 7 much earlier?

Office towers right across the street from WTC 1 and 2 were pelted by debris and there were no serious, highly suspicious "Zionist Lightning Fires" in any of them...
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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2010, 02:13:34 PM »

The presence of "secret service" guys (labelled as such - duh!) should in itself be a major clue - why were they all over building 7 but not elsewhere?
Add to that the fact that the BBC reported it down 20 minutes before it was (even when you could see it standing in the background!
Add to that the fact that it appeared dusty but unharmed on that documentary . . . at 10am ish - only to fall down at 5 pm - 7 hours later . . .
And that the alphabet agebcies have their offices there . . .

I think if we can prove building 7 then it makes the other story less believeable - the planes etc replayed over and over and over and over again were designed to overload peoples senses and arrest their disbelief - if they can fall then so what if some random little known other building falls later on . . .
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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2010, 02:33:25 PM »

The presence of "secret service" guys (labelled as such - duh!) should in itself be a major clue - why were they all over building 7 but not elsewhere?
Add to that the fact that the BBC reported it down 20 minutes before it was (even when you could see it standing in the background!
Add to that the fact that it appeared dusty but unharmed on that documentary . . . at 10am ish - only to fall down at 5 pm - 7 hours later . . .
And that the alphabet agebcies have their offices there . . .

I think if we can prove building 7 then it makes the other story less believeable - the planes etc replayed over and over and over and over again were designed to overload peoples senses and arrest their disbelief - if they can fall then so what if some random little known other building falls later on . . .


Well indeed it is these criminal's Achilles Heel, the criminal Silverstein never even made a fire insurance claim for building 7, the self-admitted Silverstein crime has never ever been investigated, and it's evidence was first to be criminally destroyed, thus obviously deliberately, maliciously and criminally Obstructing Justice forever.
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2010, 02:34:26 PM »

Building 7 was retrofitted (a month or so previous) on one floor with it's own air and water supply , along with 180mph blast proof glass on one floor only , the two towers go down ,  about 8 hours later ( a day's government work) building 7 goes down. Building 7 housed the command center for the demo of 1 and 2 and after their work was done they waltzed out and hit the detonator on it , there was even a count down.  
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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2010, 02:37:06 PM »

You may be right Kilgore - the bbc screwed it up though - released the news of its fall 20 mins too early - why has this never been made much of an issue !?
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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2010, 02:40:19 PM »

You may be right Kilgore - the bbc screwed it up though - released the news of its fall 20 mins too early - why has this never been made much of an issue !?

Of course it's not an issue , it seems 80% of the public don't even know a third building collapsed.
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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2010, 02:41:14 PM »

What really cracks me up about building 7 is how they missed thier golden oppurtunity with it.

If they had the building collapse while the last standing tower collapsed, they avoid the whole building 7 situation.  Almost everyone would have assumed, that is was crushed by the falling tower.  And with all the smoke obscuring things, there would be very little evidence of foul play.

I know! Lol! Also noone would have notice the sounds of explosions. My guess is that's what was supposed to happen but something went wrong.

The thing with 9/11 is that the event itself was also the coverup. Alot of important documents related to upgrades in the towers was destroyed in the demolitions and random bodies were in closets in the towers (as described by John Shroeder) and in WTC7 (as described by Barry Jennings). Those bodies were probably of key people in the operation who were killed so that they could never talk, and the demolitions buried their bodies.
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2010, 02:43:38 PM »

I swear they pulled some kind of mass hynpnosis trick on the people watching tv that day - you know like those micro burst things massive amounts of data in a split second over and over and over
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plane hits building and a subliminal image of osama or some shit . . .  something was wrong with the tv that day - i mean apart from the giant ff operation !
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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2010, 02:46:08 PM »

Well I was 12 years old when 9/11 happened and I had just come home from school, turned on the TV to watch cartoon network and it said "for breaking news turn to chanel ___ (sky news)" I turned over and was greeted by the shocking image of one of the towers exploding. That probably happened to alot of kids.
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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2010, 02:48:10 PM »

yeah - i alked in the door from uni and thought hmmm what the hell film is this on at this time ?

plane hits tower - tower falls down - plane hits tower - tower falls down - in some way offering an explanation for what we were all watching i suppose
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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2010, 02:55:22 PM »

Building 7 was retrofitted (a month or so previous) on one floor with it's own air and water supply , along with 180mph blast proof glass on one floor only , the two towers go down ,  about 8 hours later ( a day's government work) building 7 goes down. Building 7 housed the command center for the demo of 1 and 2 and after their work was done they waltzed out and hit the detonator on it , there was even a count down.  

You don't need a "command center" to trigger such demolition detonations, all you need are a few hidden cellphones (or even pagers) to "ring into" in a sequence or simultaneously (OR with a special audio tone sequence signal-key) to initiate the detonations of each stage of each demolition in a fail-safe fashion. The criminal Cheney himself could have done it from his bunker. 7 was emptied by a little past 9 AM

WTC 7 was pre-designated as their first-hand pre-demolition bombing explosion WITNESS VICTIM TRIAGE DEATHCAMP, such that only those first hand bombing witness victims from towers 1 and 2 certain to die would be ferried-out to ambulances to be taken to any hospitals.
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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2010, 02:57:16 PM »

Fine , and flight 93 was headed ther anyway , so your probably right , since that flight never mad it , they already had it ready to collapse so they did it anyway.
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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2010, 02:59:28 PM »

I know the towers had the basements closedthe weekend before the "attacks" for "maintainence"
Do we know if there was anything similar done to WTC7?

I wonder what really happened with that flight too. . . another distraction?

I can`t help but think it was an attempt to give "we the ppl" something to hold onto - like yeah look what they did BUT at least they fought back!
kinda thing . . .
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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2010, 03:10:26 PM »

never saw any plane part in the hole in ground in Pa , never saw a plane hit pentagon either. if you look at the vids you see only a flash of light , and what was that blue box they carried away covered with the tarp...?
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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2010, 03:13:01 PM »

Yeah I saw no evidence of a plane at the pentagon or the field . . .

Not that I am an expert but I have watched ALOT of those nerdy "aircrash investigation" programs and i have yet to see a crash where the planes just vanish (even on the ocean!)
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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2010, 03:35:38 PM »

yeah , not a bit of a plane in pa. Not that i saw.
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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2010, 03:57:29 PM »

Yeah I saw no evidence of a plane at the pentagon or the field . . .

Not that I am an expert but I have watched ALOT of those nerdy "aircrash investigation" programs and i have yet to see a crash where the planes just vanish (even on the ocean!)

Exactly. Take a look at the Lockerbie crash(?). It was clearly obvious what crashed into the ground by the wreckage left including almost the whole cockpit. There is a long history of planes hitting the ground at high speeds and not completly disappearing.
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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2010, 04:03:23 PM »

only two planes ever took off according to gov statistics

and we have two suspicious missing planes cases

hmmmmmmmm
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« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2010, 04:04:53 PM »

only two planes ever took off according to gov statistics

and we have two suspicious missing planes cases

hmmmmmmmm

and the "19 hijackers" names never made it to the flight manifest. 
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« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2010, 12:56:43 AM »

Someday, I hope we get to see footage of WTC 7 collapsing from the damaged side!

With the 100,000 video camera's rolling during the day, you know a bunch of this footage does exist.
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« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2010, 01:11:51 AM »

and the "19 hijackers" names never made it to the flight manifest. 

i wish we could work out the passenger dilemma.
what happened to them.
how did they book for non existent flights
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« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2010, 04:40:40 AM »

I know! Lol! Also noone would have notice the sounds of explosions. My guess is that's what was supposed to happen but something went wrong.


What "went wrong" happened in Boston, leading to a bizarre and unnaturally suspicious series of incongruous events, lies and foul-ups in the plan.

Both flights involved in the "Horns of the RAM" phase of the Daniel Chapter 8 Show (WTC TOWERS) were to depart from Logan in Boston at 7:45 and 7:58 respectively (13 minutes apart).

Flight 11, the first horn of the He-Goat "bin Ladin" to strike it's "horn of the Ram" WTC 1, 46 minutes of flight time later at 8:45 AM, was delayed departing by 14 minutes, suggesting that the originally scheduled phony air attack "cover" for the planned demolition start-time was to be around 8:31 - 8:35 AM as people were just arriving for work.

Flight 175, the second horn of the He-Goat "bin Ladin" to strike it's "horn of the Ram" WTC 2 took 49 minutes (3 minutes more) of flight time to arrive (almost a half an hour - much too late) at 9:03 AM, and was also delayed departing by 16 minutes (an extra 2 minutes more) as well.

It is well known from their famous embassy bombings that paramilitary al CIAduh (so-called "bin Ladin") attacks are normally military precision timed "simultaneous" events, so this is a very important departure from the scheme. The scheduled 8:30 time fully and solely explains the activities of the criminal Giulliani mob and the preplanned early closure of the Emergency Command Center and smooth evacuation/closure/setup of the WTC 7 Lobby "Witness-Victim Triage Deathcamp".

The flaw in the plan of course was that the early morning basement-core pre-stressing demolition charge bombings planned to coincide with the air crashes at 8:30 would have claimed far more witness-victims arriving for work or business at the beginning of the day, and they all could have been quickly moved to the Triage Deathcamp for extermination there. Meanwhile with simultaneous air strikes there would have been no opportunity for WTC 2 victims to escape their deaths so quickly by abandoning WTC 2 contrary to orders. Secondly, Flight 175 missed it's central core horizontal target-centering in WTC 2 and it's starboard engine went right out the other side, leaving at least one escape stairwell from the upper floors undamaged (there's  thin and a thick side to the cores I won't get into this here for brevity sake). These facts allowed many more victims to escape from WTC 2 than had been planned.

Now their original Twin Tower demolition scheme would have called for a "convincing imaginary burn time" to take place in each identical twin tower between the crash and the "pancake" time, but this was made impossible by the unplanned for delay. Despite the Silverstein criminal's (in the evacuated building 7) intercom advice to their WTC 2 victims that "the building is secure, return to work" most took advantage of the elevators in WTC 2 to escape during the delay.

Firefighters had already cleared the lower floors of WTC 2, reached the moderately damaged crash zone on the 78th floor and reported by radio that they were "ready to start just 2 fire hoses to easily "knock down" the "two small pockets of fire" there. 7 minutes later (the time it took the incendiaries to go off and cut the steel before the bombings) WTC 2 was explosively imploded at 9:59 AM with only a half hour burn time and "two small fires', in it that were the result of any air crash.

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« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2010, 05:22:11 AM »

Yeah I saw no evidence of a plane at the pentagon or the field . . .

Not that I am an expert but I have watched ALOT of those nerdy "aircrash investigation" programs and i have yet to see a crash where the planes just vanish (even on the ocean!)

Don't bother mentioning the covered Pegasys JPADS airdrop missile launcher palette being hustled off the edge of the Pentagon lawn that morning nor the extraordinarily high depleted uranium radiation readings in the area from the AUP "penetrator" type Boeing (Naval type) cruise missile/warhead used there to JIMd3100 here - Smiley LOL

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« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2010, 06:21:45 AM »

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VISIT THIS PAGE AND READ THE OPINIONS OF THESE OFFICERS   (A MUST READ)
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« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2010, 12:54:26 PM »

That is a bevy of good folks on our side BigRon!

It seems anyone running for any kind of office, should be asked if they support a new 911 investigation.  Anyone answering no, should get none of our votes. For this to happen, we would need this question to become a common in open meetings.
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« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2010, 12:18:48 AM »

All buildings in the WTC complex were evacuated immediately following the first plane crash EXCEPT WTC 2. They were told to remain in their offices. Draw your own conclusion on that.
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