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According to an article in AARP this month (Sept), a variety of books are being banned in schools and libraries across the US for being too political, having too much sex or being irreligious, and socially offensive. Many of the books have been considered classics. To name a few; Fahrenheit 451, 1984, Animal Farm, The Diary of Anne Frank, Uncle Tom's Cabin, The Scarlet Letter, The Grapes of Wrath, Catcher In The Rye, The Biography of Benjamin Franklin, A Farewell To Arms. The list goes on and on and on. To see the full list go to the following AARP link. http://pubs.aarp.org/aarpbulletin/201009_NJ/?pg=39&pm=2&u1=friend
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2010, 04:27:34 AM » |
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The LIST. Books you must NEVER read.
Too Political:
* Uncle Tom’s Cabin * All Quiet on the Western Front * A Farewell to Arms * The Grapes of Wrath * For Whom the Bell Tolls * Animal Farm** * 1984** * Doctor Zhivago * Slaughterhouse-Five * In the Spirit of Crazy Horse
Too Much Sex: Madame Bovary
* Tess of the d’Urbervilles * Ulysses * The Sun Also Rises * Lady Chatterley’s Lover * Tropic of Cancer * Lolita * Peyton Place * Rabbit, Run * I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings * Jaws * Forever * The Prince of Tides * Beloved * How the Garcia Girls Lost Their Accents
Irreligious:
* On the Origin of Species * The Lord of the Rings trilogy * The Last Temptation of Christ * Bless Me, Ultima * Harry Potter Series
Socially Offensive:
* The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin * The Scarlet Letter * The Adventure of Huckleberry Finn * As I Lay Dying * Brave New World** * Gone With the Wind * Of Mice and Men * Anne Frank: The Diary of a Young Girl * The Catcher in the Rye * Fahrenheit 451*** * To Kill a Mockingbird * James and the Giant Peach * Catch-22 * A Clockwork Orange * One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest * In Cold Blood * Cujo * The Color Purple * Ordinary People * A Thousand Acres
** Extra points for irony. *** Massive bonus points for extreme irony.
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2010, 05:08:34 AM » |
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This story needs your comments !
Banning books like 1984 is Crossing The Rubicon
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2010, 05:09:25 AM » |
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2010, 05:12:02 AM » |
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I weep for the future.  We have no future if they get away with this little stunt... The only step towards tyranny left is the public burning of these books 
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2010, 05:19:17 AM » |
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Banned Books Week: Celebrating the Freedom to Read September 25−October 2, 2010 Banned Books Week (BBW) is an annual event celebrating the freedom to read and the importance of the First Amendment. Held during the last week of September, Banned Books Week highlights the benefits of free and open access to information while drawing attention to the harms of censorship by spotlighting actual or attempted bannings of books across the United States. Intellectual freedom—the freedom to access information and express ideas, even if the information and ideas might be considered unorthodox or unpopular—provides the foundation for Banned Books Week. BBW stresses the importance of ensuring the availability of unorthodox or unpopular viewpoints for all who wish to read and access them. The books featured during Banned Books Week have been targets of attempted bannings. Fortunately, while some books were banned or restricted, in a majority of cases the books were not banned, all thanks to the efforts of librarians, teachers, booksellers, and members of the community to retain the books in the library collections. Imagine how many more books might be challenged—and possibly banned or restricted—if librarians, teachers, and booksellers across the country did not use Banned Books Week each year to teach the importance of our First Amendment rights and the power of literature, and to draw attention to the danger that exists when restraints are imposed on the availability of information in a free society. http://www.ala.org/ala/issuesadvocacy/banned/bannedbooksweek/index.cfm
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2010, 05:26:52 AM » |
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The AARP article is deceptive in its article. Banned book week has been going on for quite a while now, it show cases books that have been banned in the past or people have tried to get banned. No one is banning any of these books. sheesh.
but im quite sure you guys would be allright with banning Al Gores books, right?
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2010, 05:30:45 AM » |
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The AARP article is deceptive in its article. Banned book week has been going on for quite a while now, it show cases books that have been banned in the past or people have tried to get banned. No one is banning any of these books. sheesh.
but im quite sure you guys would be allright with banning Al Gores books, right?
No, actually. I want to see all those books, including Ecoscience, continue to be offered by libraries, in book stores, and on the internet. I don't advocate ANY censorship. They expose themselves in those books. Great companion pieces to books like 1984. Cynical much, Dok?
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2010, 05:42:53 AM » |
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but im quite sure you guys would be allright with banning Al Gores books, right?
And destroy the evidence?! Heck no.
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but im quite sure you guys would be allright with banning Al Gores books, right?
Lol, Dok, you say that like you think it would be a bad thing. 
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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2010, 06:23:47 AM » |
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lol at banning Fahrenheit 451, Oh! the irony.  All the knowledge that is fit to be thought, brought to you by your loving government.
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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2010, 09:59:25 AM » |
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Maybe it is time to up the ante of truth in those libraries since they got the shelf space.
Outfit these libraries with the following:
The Secret Team The Last Circle Operation Garden Plot An Act of State Committee of 300 Eugenics Records Office Pamphlet 10 None Dare Call it Conspiracy Tragedy and Hope Ecoscience Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler The Transfer Agreement War on the Weak Your Health and Sanity In The Age of Treason Report from Iron Mountain Behold a Pale Horse Pentagon Aliens Whiteout Illuminati: Facts and Fiction The Island of Dr. Moreau 9-11 Road to Tyranny The Bilderberg Group The Late Great USA The New World Order The Resistance Manifesto End the Fed The Underground History of American Education 9/11 Synthetic Terror Unauthorized Biography of George HW Bush Wealth of Nations Killing Hope Global Tyranny Step By Step Trance Formation of America Open Conspiracy Holy Blood, Holy Grail Conspiracy of Knights Templar Conspiracy Dope, Inc - Britain's Opium War Against the U.S. The Shape of Things to Come History of Jacobism VOL 1 Free Masonry- Its Pretensions Foundations of the World Republic Towards One World One World Secret Agenda - The United States Government The Proud Internationalist The Iron Triangle The Pivot of Civilization NATO's Secret Armies Order out of Chaos Morals And Dogma Secrets of the Federal Reserve the London Connection The protocols of the elders of Zion (Zionism, not Judaism) Proofs of the Real Existence, and Dangerous Tendency, of Illuminism Codex Magica The Anglo American Establishment Hostage to the Devi Behind the Lodge Door The Rosicrucian Enlightenment Rule by Secrecy Blood on the Altar Bloodlines of the Illuminati America’s Secret Establishment Mass Control Saucers of the Illuminati Lucifer’s Lodge Should a Christian be a Mason? Marx & Satan Queen Margot The French Revolution The Gnostic Empire Strikes Back The Ascendancy of the Scientific Dictatorship Ravaged by the New Age Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare The Freemasons The Rockefellers Trilogy on American Political Witchcraft The Secret Teaching of All Ages Three Books of Occult Philosophy
How about...
THE US CONSTITUTION?
Is that banned yet?
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2010, 10:06:46 AM » |
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How about...
THE US CONSTITUTION?
Is that banned yet?
It's on it's way out as we speak!  We need to get as many copies of the books being banned as possible. I already have many in my own library--a few duplicates too!
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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2010, 10:21:12 AM » |
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 FYI--The FDA burned Wilhelm Reich's books in the late 50s---there was no public outcry from the cud chewers. http://www.orgonelab.org/fda.htm
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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2010, 12:29:26 PM » |
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How about...
THE US CONSTITUTION?
Is that banned yet? It's on it's way out as we speak! Well, at least not in Arizona. The State requires ALL classrooms in public schools and colleges/universities to display a legible copy of the Bill of Rights and US Constitution, and requiring that those displays to be manufactured in the United States. http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/47leg/2r/bills/hb2583c.pdf
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2010, 01:46:53 PM » |
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The LIST. Books you must NEVER read.
Too Political:
* A Farewell to Arms Hemingway * The Grapes of Wrath Steinbeck * For Whom the Bell Tolls Hemingway I love these two writers, Cannery Row by John Steinbeck is one of my FAV books of all time.
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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2010, 02:49:24 PM » |
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According to an article in AARP this month (Sept), a variety of books are being banned in schools and libraries across the US for being too political, having too much sex or being irreligious, and socially offensive. Many of the books have been considered classics. To name a few; Fahrenheit 451, 1984, Animal Farm, The Diary of Anne Frank, Uncle Tom's Cabin, The Scarlet Letter, The Grapes of Wrath, Catcher In The Rye, The Biography of Benjamin Franklin, A Farewell To Arms. The list goes on and on and on. To see the full list go to the following AARP link. http://pubs.aarp.org/aarpbulletin/201009_NJ/?pg=39&pm=2&u1=friend To boot, alot of them are VERY NWO-ordery. I went to a Catholic high school, and read most of them in my English classes. Strange how for many years, they were used in the education system to indoctrinate and brainwash children, and now they're pulling them off the shelves. Maybe it's come to a point now where these writings are very, very close to become reality in the very near future?
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Well, at least not in Arizona. The State requires ALL classrooms in public schools and colleges/universities to display a legible copy of the Bill of Rights and US Constitution, and requiring that those displays to be manufactured in the United States. http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/47leg/2r/bills/hb2583c.pdfAWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2010, 03:38:41 PM » |
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The origin of species?! Do they not want people to read the subtitle or something lol.
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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2010, 11:17:28 PM » |
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If these books are removed, the youth of today will not even miss them. Most kids today, can't even read well enough to comprehend what they say. This is grievous. posted by Dok:but im quite sure you guys would be allright with banning Al Gores books, right? Dok for that comment, it shows me you don't understand freedom. Your comment sounds like something that would come from the enemy. They have a double-standard and believe most people do too. In their sight therefore they are justified of their actions.
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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2010, 11:45:51 PM » |
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According to an article in AARP this month (Sept), a variety of books are being banned in schools and libraries across the US for being too political, having too much sex or being irreligious, and socially offensive. Many of the books have been considered classics. To name a few; Fahrenheit 451, 1984, Animal Farm, The Diary of Anne Frank, Uncle Tom's Cabin, The Scarlet Letter, The Grapes of Wrath, Catcher In The Rye, The Biography of Benjamin Franklin, A Farewell To Arms. The list goes on and on and on. To see the full list go to the following AARP link.
As an English teacher, this saddens me to no end. The American jihadis are really going to far. It makes me furious, too. This culture war calls out for a culture jam. It makes me want to buy books and place them on the shelves in the library myself. It also makes me mad as hell at the fundies on this very forum that have called for the banning of books. I say truth fears no book. Many of these books were books I had read by high school. All I had read by or in college. That a school or public library would not deign to carry these titles is ridiculous. With the possible exception of Uncle Tom's Cabin, each of these books should be required reading in schools IMO and were, I believe, at one time in California where I taught and went to University: Fahrenheit 451, 1984, Animal Farm, The Diary of Anne Frank, The Scarlet Lettter, and Catcher in the Rye by high school and The Grapes of Wrath, The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin, and A Farewell to Arms should still be required of all college English majors IMO as well at the very least. You can't be a very well-read person without having read all of these books. This is beyond shocking and scandalous. It is time for secularists and constitutionalists to take back our republic. What part of "no established religion" don't these people understand? Enough is enough. As far as I am concerned the gloves are off.
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As an English teacher, this saddens me to no end. The American jihadis are really going to far. It makes me furious, too. This culture war calls out for a culture jam. It makes me want to buy books and place them on the shelves in the library myself.
It also makes me mad as hell at the fundies on this very forum that have called for the banning of books. I say truth fears no book.
Many of these books were books I had read by high school. All I had read by or in college. That a school or public library would not deign to carry these titles is ridiculous.
With the possible exception of Uncle Tom's Cabin, each of these books should be required reading in schools IMO and were, I believe, at one time in California where I taught and went to University: Fahrenheit 451, 1984, Animal Farm, The Diary of Anne Frank, The Scarlet Lettter, and Catcher in the Rye by high school and The Grapes of Wrath, The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin, and A Farewell to Arms should still be required of all college English majors IMO as well at the very least.
You can't be a very well-read person without having read all of these books. This is beyond shocking and scandalous.
It is time for secularists and constitutionalists to take back our republic. What part of "no established religion" don't these people understand?
Enough is enough.
As far as I am concerned the gloves are off.
But alot of these books are being used to condition the young ones - remember Reagan's assassin had "Catcher in the Rye" in his backpocket at the time of the shooting(yeah, he was the patsy in the whole attempt, but still...). Ditto 1984 - it's as if they're little by little encouraging kids that living in a communist state is GOOD. Overall - the education system has been THE starting point for all of these draconian agendas brainwashing kids. It's not just the books, it's other stuff too. For example, in my Catholic school "Religion" class in 1989, we watched a Scott Baio movie that had a pro-homosexual agenda(ie-Baio played a high school football player who finds out his best buddy and teammate is gay). And this was in *1989* when we watched the movie(when the "homosexual agenda" didn't even exist then). As you can see, all of these movements like feminism, gay rights, environmental rights, etc, etc weren't "ground-breaking grassroots" like the MSM keeps hyping them up to be. They've been indoctrinating kids with this in schools LONG before that.
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Yeah, ban 1984 because it is used to make mind-controlled slaves. Double facepalm. I don't even know what to say to that kind of interpretation of Orwell's work. Wow. As for Scott Baio, I don't think he can make you gay. I think you would have to be gay to begin with. As for this guy:   I don't know.
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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2010, 11:47:29 AM » |
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Ya, give em GAGA.. I didn't know this was going on. Looks as though they started the fire with the consitution and bill of rights.
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But alot of these books are being used to condition the young ones - remember Reagan's assassin had "Catcher in the Rye" in his backpocket at the time of the shooting(yeah, he was the patsy in the whole attempt, but still...). Ditto 1984 - it's as if they're little by little encouraging kids that living in a communist state is GOOD.
Overall - the education system has been THE starting point for all of these draconian agendas brainwashing kids. It's not just the books, it's other stuff too. For example, in my Catholic school "Religion" class in 1989, we watched a Scott Baio movie that had a pro-homosexual agenda(ie-Baio played a high school football player who finds out his best buddy and teammate is gay). And this was in *1989* when we watched the movie(when the "homosexual agenda" didn't even exist then).
As you can see, all of these movements like feminism, gay rights, environmental rights, etc, etc weren't "ground-breaking grassroots" like the MSM keeps hyping them up to be. They've been indoctrinating kids with this in schools LONG before that.
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« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2010, 02:03:32 PM » |
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But alot of these books are being used to condition the young ones - remember Reagan's assassin had "Catcher in the Rye" in his backpocket at the time of the shooting(yeah, he was the patsy in the whole attempt, but still...). Ditto 1984 - it's as if they're little by little encouraging kids that living in a communist state is GOOD.
Overall - the education system has been THE starting point for all of these draconian agendas brainwashing kids. It's not just the books, it's other stuff too. For example, in my Catholic school "Religion" class in 1989, we watched a Scott Baio movie that had a pro-homosexual agenda(ie-Baio played a high school football player who finds out his best buddy and teammate is gay). And this was in *1989* when we watched the movie(when the "homosexual agenda" didn't even exist then).
As you can see, all of these movements like feminism, gay rights, environmental rights, etc, etc weren't "ground-breaking grassroots" like the MSM keeps hyping them up to be. They've been indoctrinating kids with this in schools LONG before that.
When I was in high school, everyone in my class was reading 1984, and Brave New World. Nobody thought those were societies that should be emulated. They found both books horrifying and there was lots of discussion about 'what if...' and what could be done about 'big brother'. So here we are; and people are starting to notice the cameras on every street corner, in shopping malls, stores, schools, office buildings, doctors offices, etc. They have a level of consciousness about what might be happening because many have read these books. It wasn't "indoctrination" - it was education. I shudder to think of how 'acceptable' this tightening grip of tryannical controls would be if people didn't have that common 'understanding' learned by reading those books. Banning books is never a good idea. You have to give some credit to the natural desires that people have to live free lives; the books show them possibilities both good and bad. (** And by the way, the patsy with " Catcher in the Rye" was an MKUltra victim; and that book was his "prop". You were supposed to think he was a random nutcase who went off the rails. See how well that worked? You can find out more about this, and about the use of Catcher in the Rye specifically by starting here... )
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When I was in high school, everyone in my class was reading 1984, and Brave New World. Nobody thought those were societies that should be emulated. They found both books horrifying and there was lots of discussion about 'what if...' and what could be done about 'big brother'. So here we are; and people are starting to notice the cameras on every street corner, in shopping malls, stores, schools, office buildings, doctors offices, etc. They have a level of consciousness about what might be happening because many have read these books. It wasn't "indoctrination" - it was education. I shudder to think of how 'acceptable' this tightening grip of tryannical controls would be if people didn't have that common 'understanding' learned by reading those books. Banning books is never a good idea. You have to give some credit to the natural desires that people have to live free lives; the books show them possibilities both good and bad. (** And by the way, the patsy with " Catcher in the Rye" was an MKUltra victim; and that book was his "prop". You were supposed to think he was a random nutcase who went off the rails. See how well that worked? You can find out more about this, and about the use of Catcher in the Rye specifically by starting here... ) Yes the book was a trigger. It was also revealed that they were doing this (mkultra) through the movie Conspiracy Theory starring Mel Gibson who coincidentally carried the same book around and would receive phone calls concerning the book to also trigger him in to post-hypnotic suggestions, "Manchurian Candidate" style.
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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2010, 06:42:54 PM » |
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Ummm...in real life, or the movie?
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« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2010, 06:45:44 PM » |
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Ummm...in real life, or the movie?
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« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2010, 06:55:57 PM » |
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Yes, in the movie only. In fact, in the article I reference above, the author writes.... I am not in any way suggesting that “The Catcher in the Rye” was written for the CIA as a triggering device intended to set off a post-hypnotic suggestion.
What I am speculating is that his [Salinger's] former associates in the intelligence community either in an effort to mock him (more likely) or to discredit him (less likely) by demonstrating to the world at large that such works, The Catcher in the Rye is dangerous to the minds of our country’s youth, ostensibly driving them to madness but more likely dangerous for their ability to make us question are role in conforming to a consumer society.
So The Catcher in the Rye was not a 'real life' trigger; but was used (in the author's opinion) as a way to mock Salinger; who had the audacity to write a book that would " make us question the role of conforming to a consumer society".
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« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2010, 06:57:41 PM » |
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That sounds more likely.
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« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2010, 05:50:56 AM » |
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I'm reading a book in my class by Howard Zinn: A peoples History of the U.S. that apparently is banned in my state. This is such b.s., i'd rather have someone read a book about sex and violence than play a video game or watch a film with it. And thats another thing, they bann books with too much sex and violence in it, but partically every movie and tv show out right now has some form of fulgar language, violence, and sex in it. YEah that's one of the reasons why i don't like ebooks, even if its just a hundred pages, i can't see myself reading all those the same way i read books. By the way i posted this in someone elses topic but does anyone know what parts in the revised version of Carroll's "Tradegy and Hope" were changed?
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A government which does not act in accordance with the law forfeits the right to be called a government and cannot expect its people to obey the law.-Sir Robert Ker Thompson, Defeating Communist Insurgency: Experiences from Malaya and Vietnam(1966)
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« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2010, 05:59:22 AM » |
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What state are you in that Zinn's book is banned?
Banned how? Schools can't carry it? Libraries? Book stores?
If you don't wish to say what state you are in, I totally understand.
What was the rationale for banning it -- do you know?
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« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2010, 06:26:27 AM » |
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If these books are removed, the youth of today will not even miss them. Most kids today, can't even read well enough to comprehend what they say. This is grievous.
Dok for that comment, it shows me you don't understand freedom. Your comment sounds like something that would come from the enemy. They have a double-standard and believe most people do too. In their sight therefore they are justified of their actions.
dont quite think you understand what i was saying. 
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« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2010, 05:23:12 PM » |
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dont quite think you understand what i was saying.  Sorry if I misunderstood you.
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« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2011, 03:24:49 AM » |
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I grew up reading F451, must of read the book 2 or 3 times in school...... I have a copy actually that I stole from the school by accident ;p... forgot to bring it back to the library... maybe I should wait till they ban the book and go back after 9 years and request to have it put back in ;p.... What is this Nazi germany? whats next? the burning of books and "cleaning of the dictionary"? I better go get a few copies of these books just to preserve them.... sheesh watch they start raiding peoples homes for these books and other "contraband".... They are really getting pushy.  Should start preserving the books as PDFS online, most of them are like over 60 years old I think the copyrights are no longer attached? unless I am mistaken? These books are pretty much... or rather where public books that many people have read ... I'm guessing they are public domain now? We should start a project to preserve these books for newer generations... god knows with whats coming they will probably burn every last copy. 1984 http://www.filefront.com/17851888/1984.pdfAnimal Farm http://www.filefront.com/17851889/Animal Farm - George Orwell.pdf O and WTF the Grapes of Wrath??? why?  thats just a really good book...
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