Max Keiser is a Climategate Denier and thinks Paris is safe from NWO tyranny

[pac522]

Preying on peoples miseries? How does he prey on people? You can either lose when everyone else loses, or you can learn to win sometimes. Max seems to have some of the right ideas.

Really, you ask that question and your signature says, "Jesus Said, ‘Beware By What Spirit You Are Led’ ". I am not going to say anything any further except to say look no further than this thread to find your answer.

[Freeski]

Part 14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj_kJJK_6_I

(I'm trying but so far it's nothing more than a freaked-out guy)

[Freeski]

Can't find 15 but here's 16:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSe5LutTqRQ

[Freeski]

17

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA1ADG00eTs

15 is still eslusive!

Still no Max climategate denial! (or did I miss it?)

[jshowell]

There's also his going off the deep end for Obamacare. I don't know if he's clueless about Americans or exploiting an audience of people who will buy trashing Americans because we're fed up with our leaders.  Whatever he is it's definitely opportunist, not that's necessarily always a bad thing.  

Has this reached random nonsensical infighting yet?

[Freeski]

Welll that's it for Max... so it must be in part 15.

[Freeski]

There's also his going off the deep end for Obamacare. I don't know if he's clueless about Americans or exploiting an audience of people who will buy trashing Americans because we're fed up with our leaders.  Whatever he is it's definitely opportunist, not that's necessarily always a bad thing.  

Has this reached random nonsensical infighting yet?

Who knows.

[usefulidiot,uselesseater]

After listening to AJ's interview with Max today, I'll have to concede defeat on my assumption that he's an alright guy 

[Dig]

Oh yeah...the old "Europe is the place to be" Bull Shit...

Haven't we seen this before?

You would think that people might read a f**king book every now and then...


http://www.traces.org/charleslindbergh.html

On 11 October 1937, Lindbergh and his wife Anne flew on their second trip to Germany. It was an unofficial visit and Lindbergh met with no Third Reich officials, but he did visit airfields and factories in Bremen and Pomerania and once again was impressed with Luftwaffe technology and capabilities. A few months later, Lindbergh was invited to examine the air forces of Czechoslovakia and Russia, but was unimpressed in comparison to what he had seen in Germany. “Germany now has the means of destroying London, Paris and Prague if she wishes to do so”, Lindbergh said. “I am convinced that it is wiser to permit Germany’s eastward expansion than to throw England and France, unprepared, into a war at this time”. [...] Lindbergh’s next trip to Germany in October 1938 proved to be the most controversial trip. After a day of touring factories in Magdeburg and Dessau, Lindbergh along with the American Ambassador Hugh Wilson attended an official state dinner with Hermann Göring and a number of other Nazi officials. At the dinner on 18 October, Lindbergh and the members of the American embassy were surprised when Göring arrived with a small red leather box in hand. In the box was the Verdienstkreuz Deutscher Adler, or Service Cross of the German Eagle, and it was presented to Lindbergh “by order of the Führer”.


Truly amazing is that after bragging about how awesome Europe was and how Hitler's victory was a foregone conclusion, Lindbergh started an organization called "America First", and Woody Guthrie decided to write a little song about it:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k83WArW5XU

Mister Charlie Lindbergh, he flew to old Berlin,
Got 'im a big Iron Cross, and he flew right back again
To Washington, Washington.

Misses Charlie Lindbergh, she come dressed in red,
Said: "I'd like to sleep in that pretty White House bed
In Washington, Washington."

Lindy said to Annie: "We'll get there by and by,
But we'll have to split the bed up with Wheeler, Clark, and Nye
In Washington, Washington."

Hitler wrote to Lindy, said "Do your very worst,"
Lindy started an outfit that he called America First
In Washington, Washington.

All around the country, Lindbergh, he did fly,
Gasoline was paid for by Hoover, Clark, and Nye
In Washington, Washington.

Lindy said to Hoover: "We'll do the same as France:
Make a deal with Hitler, and then we'll get our chance
In Washington, Washington."

Then they had a meetin', and all the Firsters come,
Come on a-walkin', they come on a-runnin',
In Washington, Washington.

Yonder comes Father Coughlin, wearin' the silver chain,
Cash on his stomach and Hitler on the brain.
In Washington, Washington.

Mister John L. Lewis would sit and straddle a fence,
His daughter signed with Lindbergh, and we ain't seen her since
In Washington, Washington.

Hitler said to Lindy: "Stall 'em all you can,
Gonna bomb Pearl Harbor with the help of old Japan."
In Washington, Washington.

Then on a December mornin', the bombs come from Japan,
Wake Island and Pearl Harbor, kill fifteen hundred men.
In Washington, Washington

Now Lindy tried to join the army, but they wouldn't let 'im in,
'Fraid he'd sell to Hitler a few more million men.
In Washington, Washington

So I'm a gonna tell you people: If Hitler's gonna be beat,
The common workin' people has got to take the seat
In Washington, Washington.

And I'm gonna tell you workers, 'fore you cash in your checks:
They say "America First," but they mean "America Next!"
In Washington, Washington.


And the 9/11 speech by Lindbergh for non-intervention in WWII (which I fricking agree with for the most part) where he absolutely knew that Rockefeller, Harriman, Bush, and Ford were funding Hitler and absolutely knew the relationship between the British Monarch and Japan reminds me of the Max Kaiser game of just thinking that there was not a serious moral fight going on. That there was not one of the greatest threats to humanity by the psycho technocratic eugenecists going on.

The technocratic eugenecists are on the rise and Max is promoting the idea that this is a natural transition and we should just ride the wave. Sorry, but that is a load of bullshit and Alex could not have been clearer. If Max thinks that Paris is somehow a "Highlander Holy Zone" immune to the New World Order psychopaths, he is seriously delusional.

And Alex knows we got these shitheads on the run and instead of Max seeing that upward curve, he is just trying to push the awakening (especially in America) down an almost project mockingbird fake memory hole. Well it ain't going to work. There is a fight for humanity going on, the financial shit is just the beginning and Max knows it. They do not give a shit about the money, they are using it for us to fight each other. Their goal is the cybernetics agenda where there will be no money and no means to earn it. There will just be total control to eliminate the rights of man.

I got more news for the same psycho incestuous iiluminutheads that have been fighting humanity for thousands of years and it also comes from Woody Guthrie who knew about America's darkest and most hopeless hours yet knew that the very essence of humanity will always defeat the powers against humanity...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB-YnV0e3Lc

I'm just a lonesome traveler, The Great Historical Bum.
Highly educated from history I have come.
I built the Rock of Ages, 'twas in the Year of One
And that was about the biggest thing that man had ever done.

I worked in the Garden of Eden, that was the year of two,
Joined the apple pickers union, I always paid my due;
I'm the man that signed the contract to raise the rising sun,
And that was about the biggest thing that man had ever done.

I was straw boss on the Pyramids, the Tower of Babel, too;
I opened up the ocean let the migrant children through,
I fought a million battles and I never lost a one,
And that was about the biggest thing that man had ever done.

I beat the daring Roman, I beat the daring Turk,
Defeated Nero's army with thirty minutes work,
I fought the greatest leaders and I licked them everyone
And that was about the biggest thing that man had ever done.

I stopped old Caesar's Romans, and I stopped the Kubla Khan;
I took but half an hour's work to beat the Pharaoh's bands;
I knocked old Kaiser Bill flat, then I dumped the bloody Huns,
And that's about the biggest thing that man has ever done.

I was in the Revolution when we set the country free;
Me and a couple of Indians that dumped the Boston tea;
We won the battle at Valley Forge, the battle of Bully Run;
And that was about the biggest thing that man has ever done.

Next, we won the slavery war, some other folks and me,
And every slave from sea to sea was all turned loose by me.
I divorced old Madam slavery, and I wed this freedom dame.
And that's about the biggest thing that man has ever done.

And then I took to farming on the great midwestern plain,
The dust it blowed a hundred years, but never come a rain'
Well, me and a million other fellas left there on the run
And that was about the biggest thing that man has ever done.

I clumb the rocky canyon where the Columbia River rolls,
Seen the salmon leaping the rapids and the falls
The big Grand Coulee Dam in the state of Washington
Is just about the biggest thing that man has ever done.

There's a building in New York that you call the Empire State
I rode the rods to 'Frisco to walk the Golden Gate
I've seen every foot of film that Hollywood has run
But Coulee is the biggest thing that man has ever done.

Three times the size of Boulder or the highest pyramid
Makes the Tower of Babel a plaything for a kid
From the rising of the river to the setting of the sun
The Coulee is the biggest thing that man has ever done.

There was a man across the ocean, I guess you knew him well,
His name was Adolf Hitler, goddam his soul to hell;
We kicked him in the panzers and put him on the run,
And that was about the biggest thing that man has ever done.

I'm living with my freedom wife in this big land we built;
It takes all forty eight States for me to spread my quilt.
Our kids are several millions now; they run from sun to sun.
And that's about the biggest thing that man has ever done.

I built mines and mills and factories to run for Uncle Sam;
I turned th' ploughs and wheels to feed my soldiers in your lands;
This Nazi job's a tough 'un, it'll take us everyone,
'Cause this is about the biggest thing that man has ever done.

There's warehouse guys and teamsters and guys that skin the cats
Guys that run my steel mill, my furnace and my blast
We'll stop the Axis rattlesnakes and thieves of old Nippon
And that will be the biggest thing that man has ever done.

I'd better quit my talking, 'cause I told you all I know,
But please remember, pardner, wherever you may go,
The people are building a peaceful world, and when the job is done
That'll be the biggest thing that man has ever done.

I better quit my talking now; I told you all I know,
But please remember, pardner, wherever you may go,
I'm older than your old folks, and I'm younger than the young,
And I'm about the biggest thing that man has ever done.


Now I am probably more batshit crazy than Max to even suggest comparing him with Chucky and if anyone read more than 10 of my satirical, slapstick, inconsistent, and unedumacated ramblings they could plainly see that I have neither the intellectual capacity nor the depth of industry knowledge to ever actually win any debate with the Kaiserstein monster. And like with Lindbergh, I agree with like 90% of the stuff that Max says. But Max has for some reason gone down the "Blame Americans" narrative rather than continuing to expose the less than 10,000 illuminutso turds in the punchbowls who are actually threatening the core of humanity worldwide (which he has done for at least 2 years that I know of).

I mean just listening to the shit a few times it is insane. He really thinks that Paris is some PANIC ROOM which will shield from the technocrats who are going after every penny in every pocket from every human living, dead, and unborn? He thinks he has been accepted to the same "big club" that eats their own?

Maybe he is just pissed off so much that he needed to blow some steam. But the carbon credit article is more disturbing than the interview because it seems to show that he has bought into the technocratic and cybernetics agenda which is the core problem IMO.


NOTE: Linbergh actually did believe in the spirit of America in the end and perhaps Max can wake the F up too...

On December 7, 1941, Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, and debate over U.S. war policy came to an end. Lindbergh, who had resigned his military commission in 1939, asked to be reinstated, but President Franklin D. Roosevelt refused. The middle-aged Lindbergh later made it to the Pacific as an observer, and eventually ended up flying over two dozen combat missions, including one in which he downed a Japanese aircraft.
http://www.charleslindbergh.com/americanfirst/index.asp

[Viper]

The Alex Jones Show Mon 08.16.2010 part-15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=bvdRjpeNzaI

[kita]

I don't understand these people at all,what a let down.

[Dig]

I also recommend people watch the John Adams miniseries. Thomas Jefferson was a big supporter of the whole "French" thang too until he realized that the French Revolution was about forcing "liberty" down the throats of the common man rather than the actual rights of man that was promoted in the US founding documents and continued experiment.

[TahoeBlue]

Oh yeah...the old "Europe is the place to be" BS ...Haven't we seen this before?

And the 9/11 speech by Lindbergh for non-intervention in WWII (which I fricking agree with for the most part) where he absolutely knew that Rockefeller, Harriman, Bush, and Ford were funding Hitler and absolutely knew the relationship between the British Monarch and Japan reminds me of the Max Kaiser game of just thinking that there was not a serious moral fight going on. That there was not one of the greatest threats to humanity by the psycho technocratic eugenecists going on.

Excellent!

[Dig]

BTW, whatever let down that people may be feeling with the Kaiser interview is more than made up with one of the most awesome interviews ever...AJ interviews a top Pakistan General who shows exactly where the evil is and how the power is with the American people. He praises the constitution, the bill of rights, the essence of the American dream, and the American will to be free and fight for justice. Totally unprecedented to see such a convergence of the human spirit against the illumini-illumini-gobble-dee-jerks

Alex Jones Show: Hamid Gul, “God Help America!”
http://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-show-hamid-gul-god-help-america/

[Valerius]

I think we bash France a little more than we should in this country, but America is still humanity's last, best hope. The People HAVE the power to change things here, but they have confused the populace into thinking otherwise.

[Viper]

The People HAVE the power to change things here, but they have confused [and drugged] the populace into thinking otherwise.

[Dig]

Perhaps we all should just sit back and listen to this song a few times ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxiMrvDbq3s

This land is your land This land is my land
From California to the New York island;
From the red wood forest to the Gulf Stream waters
This land was made for you and Me.

As I was walking that ribbon of highway,
I saw above me that endless skyway:
I saw below me that golden valley:
This land was made for you and me.

I've roamed and rambled and I followed my footsteps
To the sparkling sands of her diamond deserts;
And all around me a voice was sounding:
This land was made for you and me.

When the sun came shining, and I was strolling,
And the wheat fields waving and the dust clouds rolling,
As the fog was lifting a voice was chanting:
This land was made for you and me.

As I went walking I saw a sign there
And on the sign it said "No Trespassing."
But on the other side it didn't say nothing,
That side was made for you and me.

In the shadow of the steeple I saw my people,
By the relief office I seen my people;
As they stood there hungry, I stood there asking
Is this land made for you and me?

Nobody living can ever stop me,
As I go walking that freedom highway;
Nobody living can ever make me turn back
This land was made for you and me.

[Animadverto]

I was a little disappointed with Max on the America bashing.  If he thinks France is going to survive WWIII and/or the "Greatest Depression" any better than America or any other part of the globe he is delusional.  In China when the SHTF, the communist government will just kill another 60 - 80 million people.  In America and Europe, being so fragmented, they will kill each other.  Russia won't kill their citizens, they have had a huge population loss over the past 20 years.  In the poorest parts of the world, like Mexico and South America, they will simply starve to death.  Max has lost sight of the "global agenda".  It has nothing to do with one country or the other and everything to do with population reduction.  There will be no piece of the globe that will not be in chaos. 

[Dig]

Yup...France has nothing to do with the rape of humanity by eugenicist globalist vampiric corporatists...

All of these companies produce pixie dust and they fart flowers and they are not affected by Bilderberg psychos in any way whatsoever...

Accor                                   hotels
Air Liquide                         commodity chemicals   
Alcatel-Lucent                         telecommunications equipment
Alstom                                   industrial machinery
ArcelorMittal                         steel
AXA                                   full line insurance
BNP Paribas                         banks   
Bouygues                         heavy construction
Capgemini                         computer services
Carrefour                         food retailers and wholesalers
Crédit Agricole                         banks   
Dexia                                   banks   
EADS                                   aerospace
EDF                                   electricity
Essilor                                   medical supplies
France Télécom               fixed line telecommunications
GDF Suez                         gas distribution
Groupe Danone               food products
L'Oréal                                   personal products
Lafarge                         building materials and fixtures
Lagardère                         publishing
LVMH                                   clothing and accessories
Michelin                         tires
Pernod Ricard                         distillers and vintners
PSA Peugeot Citroën               automobiles
PPR                                   broadline retailers
Renault                         automobiles
Saint-Gobain                         building materials and fixtures
Sanofi-Aventis                         pharmaceuticals
Schneider Electric               electrical components and equipment
Société Générale               banks   
STMicroelectronics               semiconductors
Suez Environnement               water
Technip                         oil equipment and services
Total                                   integrated oil and gas
Unibail-Rodamco               real estate investment trusts
Vallourec                         industrial machinery
Veolia Environnement            water   
Vinci                                   heavy construction
Vivendi                              broadcasting and entertainment

[ekimdrachir]

I admit I need to take some time to listen closer to what max is saying I don't know too much about him except alex likes him. Ill get back to this

[Dig]

Last part of the interview. A response from AJ after listening to Max pontificate about how America is dead, Americans are dead (morally, spiritually, and most importantly pugilistically) and how Europeans "own" and have therefore killed America for the past 15 fricking minutes. Max goes on about how beautiful France is and how happy he is waiting to use the oppportunity of Americans being stupid and impotent to help the banksters rob more wealth from our unborn children...


Max, France is dead, France is dead, you're a dead man [too]* you just don't know it yet. You can look across from your pile of crap and tell me that I am knee deep in a pig pie, but so are you pal.

SMELL IT!

It ain't daisies. You are sitting in the same situation. This is a New World Order Max....But let me tell you this, as the center of the empire and having to fund this war-house [sic], we are in worse shape.

But, we are all in this together Max, and...

FREE HUMANITY IS GOING TO DEFEAT THE NEW WORLD ORDER...

We don't have a choice my friend. We can't let them demoralize us.

WE HAVE JUST BEGUN TO FIGHT.

WE ARE GOING TO CRUSH THEM!



*Alex saying: "you're a dead man you just don't know it yet" is obviously in reference to Max saying 15x that America and Americans are dead but just do not realize it yet. Max weven went so far to talk about a Russian writer who wrote about a person who was at a party where the people were talking about him as if he was dead. So low level CoIntelPro morons check with your supervisors before filling out one of your Stasi New World Order reports. Also, AJ's reference to France being dead is again in the same vein of Max saying America is dead. We all need to see that our countries have been poisoned by Bilderberg/New World Order self appointed owners and we need to overcome the poison with renewed faith in humanity. This is exactly what they are afraid of according to their own Club of Rome documents.

[lamourlady]

Dang, I was just warming up to Max...

Here's the clip (starts at 1:20)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSDMvzWw27A

What a traitor!  He's the sort of little pecker that switches sides when he sees the side he was on, slipping downhill, instead of standing with them in the fight.  All respect is gone.  He speaks of the U.S. with a shameful condescending attitude and it makes me want to puke!  Good riddance I say...who needs him!  I don't care how smart he is.  He just wants to cover his own ass and to hell with the rest.  For SHAME!

[Mr Grinch]

I think its worth thinking about the "educated" (cough cough Fool) mindset that has been steeped in the 'progressive' version ala university indoctrination of history and the updated "progressive isn't communist" ideology with all the associated media bias....

I say the real thing MK said that worries me is the "too many stupid people should die". That is the essence of the attitude desired (by the eugenicists)... This has justified mass killing throughout history, and I myself used to frequently say "your too stupid to be livin'", and mean it before I realized how fully I was in the lie.

The idea that any one of us has the right to decide who lives or reproduces is the only real divide.

[Satyagraha]

Max talks about these issues on Russia Today...

I have heard him many times.
He calls for Americans to arrest & try the financial terrorists in GoldmanSachs & other companies.

Just because he doesn't talk about these issues today, doesn't mean he is avoiding addressing them.

I agree with you Amazon; I've heard Max talk about the financial terrorist organization called "Goldman Sachs" et al. But in his interview with Alex, he spoke specifically about American people as if he had no awareness of the bankster/politico machinations that have engineered this financial meltdown; that moved our manufacturing capability offshore, that 'bought' our media, and have destroyed the health and critical thinking ability of the American people (see: HFCS, aspartame, sucralose, vaccines, fluoride, gmo food, psychotropic medications and TV). 

How could Max not be aware of this? And how can he believe he is 'safe' in France, when these same banksters have a plan for global government? Even accepting that he may not be aware of the NWO 'thousand points of light' plan (assuming he doesn't believe that France is one of those among the thousand points), his disdain for Americans was unacceptable. His personal plan to capitalize on the falling US economy, the 'death of America', he showed himself to be the very portrait of a vulture circling their dying prey.

Well, we are not his prey. He can circle all he wants, he can make money on his investments in Wackenhut (Corrections Corp. of America), and he can laugh all the way to the bank. But as Alex said, in what was a superb response to this blatant disdain for the American people, "We are all in this together Max, and free humanity is going to defeat the new world order. We don't have a choice my friend. We can't let them demoralize us."

I think Max is running for cover, and 'cover' for Max seems to be "if you can't beat them, join them". It seems that he has thrown in the towel and decided the only course of action remains to suck as much money out of this as possible, and to hell with the American people.

It is a disappointment to read about Max's belief in carbon taxes, but in his interview with Alex I heard more American-bashing than I would have believed possible from someone whom I have come to respect for his analysis of the financial meltdown. I had no idea that Max was so anti-American, and how could I have missed that until now? Something I need to think about.

[xereau]

I think that Max is completely disgusted with the lack of any kind of uprising from the American people.  And I can not blame him one bit....

I believe the perfume/pig analogy is most fitting here.

He calls it like he sees it.

[Optimus]

I think that Max is completely disgusted with the lack of any kind of uprising from the American people.  And I can not blame him one bit....

I believe the perfume/pig analogy is most fitting here.

He calls it like he sees it.

I am relistening to him on yesterday's show, and frankly, I am disgusted with his attitude. If we all thought like he does about forget the American people, they are dead, then the NWO would win. I am glad that Alex told him what for and how it is at the end of the interview.

[EvadingGrid]

See if you know what this is .....

[jshowell]

I am relistening to him on yesterday's show, and frankly, I am disgusted with his attitude. If we all thought like he does about forget the American people, they are dead, then the NWO would win. I am glad that Alex told him what for and how it is at the end of the interview.

You think he's playing the bad guy so more people will get angry and actually do something?  Max does act absurdist to get a reaction most of the time, but I also do think he's out for himself and will trade stocks to benefit him first and everyone else can take a flying leap. 

[agentbluescreen]

Carousel will solve all of these issues..renew, renew, renew

I don't believe for a minute in the "global warming" nonsense any more than AJ or MK do, but that simple fact alone does not mean that anthropogenic global environmental change is not a certain reality. When our ancestors first came to North America, there were so many fish in the Grand Banks that the boats COULD NOT MOVE...

There were herds of buffalo so large men could not see the ends of them.

It's just that whistling in the dark or planning to starve, over run or exterminate your neighbors are not the solutions, and better ones are increasingly becoming less and less plentiful - like the fish.

What is certain is that those who have profited the most (and inherited those ill-gotten gains) from ruthlessly exploiting our planet are now apparently in the unfairly unchallenged positions to dictate that those who have not profited at all, should be the ones who are forced to pay for it.

[SpeakUpFightBack]

I recently subscribed to Max Keiser's podcast and a big part of the radio show, at least in the last few months, has been promoting the ludacris idea of Global Warming and hating on "Global Warming deniers." I was shocked and disgusted.

So as far as the regular guests I enjoy on the Alex Jones show, they all have issues:

-Max Keiser - Believes in both Global Warming, the Rockefeller solution of Carbon taxes & Peak Oil
-Webster Tarpley - Believes FDR's New Deal was God's greatest gift to America
-Michael Rivero - Believed Obama was change (believes incompetence over planned collusion run America)
-Ron Paul - believes in a new 9/11 investigation but doesn't promote the issue like 'End the Fed'
-Jesse Ventura - didn't run for President in 2008

-------------

No one but the man in the mirror is going to agree 100% with me. But c'mon Max. Give the little man a f-cking break and ask yourself 'who benefits' from this obvious scam. Max should get props for screaming about jailing the GolmanSachs fux from even before the 2008 economic 9/11. But then to promote the Average American funding another GolmanSachs' taxpayer funding slush fund is hypocritical at best. As suggested numerous times here on this post and elsewhere, Max must be financially committed to this idea. It is the only sensible explanation.

[Dig]

I think that Max is completely disgusted with the lack of any kind of uprising from the American people.  And I can not blame him one bit....

I believe the perfume/pig analogy is most fitting here.

He calls it like he sees it.

And he sees the French people rising up? BTW, a chaotic uprising is exactly what the Brzezinskis and Rockefellers want. The last thing in the world they want is a slow progressive shut down of co-operation coupled with a massive multi-billion person non-violent awakening to the less than 10,000 psycho controllers.

THEY NEED PERSISTING SOCIAL CRISIS TO JUSTIFY THE USE OF CIVILIAN TRAUMA AND SERVITUDE WEAPONS AS BRAGGED ABOUT BY ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI IN 1970!!

AJ's show with with Dr. Blaylock was right on the money:

Today Alex welcomes back Dr. Russell Blaylock, board certified neurosurgeon, author and lecturer, to discuss lithium and fluoride being added to local water supplies.

Comment from MarkCentury on another thread:

In the 2008 movie "The Happening" mankind is assaulted by biochemical weapons that destroys their natural survival instincts leading victims to fearlessly commit suicide by walking into a lion's den or throwing themselves under a lawn mower.

In the final frames of this movie we see a school bus and on that bus a large number is visible:  

2010

Now 2010 has arrived and we read bizzare stories of shrimp drugged on prozac committing suicide as they fearlessly throw themselves into danger.

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/wilderness-resources/stories/shrimp-on-prozac-commit-suicide

Today Alex Jones released an impassioned video "The Media pushes brain eating vaccines" where he warns us that the same attack is being carried out against mankind.  

http://www.infowars.com/establishment-media-pushes-brain-eating-vaccines/

Vaccines are being used to deliver live virus bioweapons that re-engineer our brains by destroying our natural survival instincts.  This at the same time a sudden chorus of academics are pushing sedating the masses by adding toxic lithium to the water supply.  As Alex explains, this combined biochemcal assault will render the masses unable to resist the globalists as they carry out the next phases of their incremental plan of global enslavement and extermination.

Those seeking the destruction of mankind operate under a code requiring them to give advance notice.  Could the prominent but fleeting date of "2010" in the movie "The Happening" have been a warning that this is the year we would all be thrown under the biochemical bus?

Mark

Read this article:

HAARP, Haiti, Brzezinski and the NWO
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/printer_5495.shtml
By Jerry Mazza Online Journal Associate Editor

My comment:

What is important to note is Jerry Mazza's evaluation and comparison of the two moments in historical context:

He actually wrote a chapter called “How to Wreck the Environment” in his book, Unless Peace Comes. Of course, this came at the height of the Vietnam brutality. Given the aura of violence similar to today’s, Gordon described in his chapter, among other things, “polar ice cap melting or destabilization, ozone depletion techniques, earthquake engineering, ocean wave control and brain wave manipulation using the planet’s energy fields.”


Also important to note is Brzezinski's invisible hand in all of these narratives pervasive among the elite controllers of society:

As of 1970, Brzezinski predicted HAARP could be used for “a more controlled and directed society” linked to technology. This society would be dominated by an elite group which impresses voters by allegedly superior scientific know-how.” Furthermore, Dr. Strangelove states, “Unhindered by the restrains of traditional liberal values, this elite [the New World Order of today] would not hesitate to achieve its political ends by using the latest modern techniques for influencing public behavior and keeping society under close surveillance and control. Technical and scientific momentum would then feed on the situation it exploits.”

And thus spake Brzezinski, who also predicted that it would take an inciting incident like Pearl Harbor (i.e., 9/11) to engage the normally peaceful American population to go to war on a march for world hegemony (i.e., The War on Terror). And he was spot on.

Zbig is not afraid, in fact, is lauded for thinking down avenues that would make most of us shiver with disgust. Regrettably, his forecasts tend to prove accurate, because they inspire the worst people to do the worst things. And so, these “tools for the elite” and their temptation to use them increases incredibly. The policies to use them are in place. As to the “stepping stones” that could be used to reach this highly controlled techno-society, Brezinski expected them to be “persisting social crisis” and the use of mass media to gain the public’s confidence. Again, he’s spot on.

As to the “stepping stones” that could be used to reach this highly controlled techno-society, Brezinski expected them to be “persisting social crisis” and the use of mass media to gain the public’s confidence. Again, he’s spot on.

RockefellerFoundation predicts for 2012

PERSISTING SOCIAL CRISIS

caused by pandemic, economic collapse, marauding gangs

So, I was reading this article (I think it has already been linked to by other people on here - since Alan Watt linked to it a couple of days ago - but as far as I know, this is the original article and contains some more stuff that the link Alan Watt put up did not have ) - and it made mention of this consortium called Global Business Network.

The English Ideology and WIRED Magazine
Part Three Of Three

Techno-Utopianism: The Final Imperial Solution
by Mark Stahlman November 22nd, 1996

http://web.archive.org/web/20011226171744/www.rewired.com/96/Fall/1122.html

This snippet in particular piqued my curiosity

No less chilling is the scenarios planning exercise that WIRED's wizards-behind-the-curtain perform on their multi-national clients. From General Motors to AT&T, the Global Business Network (GBN) charges hefty sums to show the yellow-brick-road towards "ByteCity" to strategic planners and top corporate brass. In one recent and rare public discussion of the results, GM's top planning team defined the three "alternative futures" which emerged after years of GBN counseling. The first is just like our world and, so by definition, is not very interesting. The second is an eco-fascist regime in which car designs are completely "Green" and the companies can only follow orders. The third is the fun one, however. This is the world in which armed gangs roam the streets and surface travel is a series of car chases. This scenario has already been anticipated with a Cadillac that includes armored protection and a "panic" button installed in the middle of the dashboard. The car has a satellite tracking system built in and it can call the local authorities (presumably your multi-national's private swat-team) and get help when you get trapped by the natives.

So naturally, I looked into Global Business Network. This consortium is kind of like Wells 'The Samurai' corporate overlord board - every bigwig company you can imagine that is into some type of big industry is among its members.

Global Business Network

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Global_Business_Network

Funding / Members - Corporations

I don't have time to list all of the companies, so let's just list for the sake of interest some of the key companies that consider themselves to be members - these companies also provide for the organization's funding:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Global_Business_Network#Funding

• AT&T
• Bechtel
• Booz Allen & Hamilton
• Coca-Cola Company
• Dow Chemical
• DuPont
• EDS (Electronic Data Systems)
• Fannie Mae
• Freddie Mac
• ExxonMobil
• General Electric
• Heineken (My note: The Dutch beer-brewer)
• Hewlett Packard/HP
• IBM (My note: Big surprise, huh?)
• Intel
• L'Oreal
• Lucent Corporation
• Microsoft
• Monsanto
• Procter & Gamble
• Reuters
• Sandia National Laboratories
• Shell Oil/Dutch Royal Shell
• Toyota
• Sun Microsystems (My note: See, I don't want to hear anymore crap from some techies that Sun Microsystems was 'once' good prior to being taken over by the evil 'Oracle' - to hell with that - they were ALWAYS part of the hive mind - stop sucking up to controlled opposition is my message to these people - forget about the SPARC processors and all that shit and realize these guys didn't give a rip about you, the individual, or any semblance of human dignity - same as all the other corporate technocrats)
• Xerox

The list is far longer than this, but you get the drill - any corporation worth its salt is a member and/or provides funding for it.

Stewart Brand, Whole Earth Catalog, Wired Magazine, Global Business Network

This ties back into Stewart Brand - the guy behind the Whole Earth Catalog, the founding of Wired Magazine, and the main progenitor of this entire techno-utopia 'scientific dictatorship' that the Unabomber railed against. Coincidentally, he was also a co-founder of Global Business Network.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Stewart_Brand

Brand is a co-founder of the Global Business Network (GBN) (1988) [4]; the The Long Now Foundation (1995) [5], "whose core project is the construction of a 10,000 year clock called The Clock of the Long Now"; the ALL Species Foundation (2001) [6], "to find and document every life form on Earth" [7]; and the Long Bets Foundation (2001), "an arena for competitive, accountable predictions" and "to foster better long-term thinking." [8][9]

Anyway, here comes the big one - this is a report produced by the Rockefeller Foundation in cooperation with Global Business Network in May 2010 - and it shows four possible future scenarios that the world might be headed into. Let's discuss this, shall we.

http://www.gbn.com/consulting/article_details.php?id=101&breadcrumb=consulting

http://www.gbn.com/articles/pdfs/GBN&Rockefeller%20scenarios.technology&development.pdf

Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development
This report was produced by

The Rockefeller Foundation
and Global Business Network.
May 2010



Let's see what Peter Schwartz, President of Global Business Network, has to say about these 'scenarios' firsthand:

Scenario planning is a powerful tool precisely because the future is unpredictable and shaped by many interacting variables. Scenarios enable us to think creatively and rigorously about the different ways these forces may interact, while forcing us to challenge our own assumptions about what we believe or hope the future will be. Scenarios embrace and weave together multiple perspectives and provide an ongoing framework for spotting and making sense of important changes as they emerge. Perhaps most importantly, scenarios give us a new, shared language that deepens our conversations about the future and how we can help to shape it.

The Rockefeller Foundation has already used this project as an opportunity to clarify and advance the relationship between technology and development. Through interviews and the scenario workshops, they have engaged a diverse set of people - from different geographies, disciplines, and sectors - to identify the key forces driving change, to explore the most critical uncertainties, and to develop challenging yet plausible scenarios and implications.  

Population growth

As we all know, this is a recurring theme and something Rockefeller and his cadre of ghouls likes to whine and fearmonger about. Here it is again:

For example, it is a near geopolitical certainty that - with the rise of China, India, and other nations - a multi-polar global system is emerging. One demographic certainty is that global population growth will continue and will put pressure on energy, food, and water resources - especially in the developing world. Another related certainty: that the world will strive to source more of its energy from renewable resources and may succeed, but there will likely still be a significant level of global interdependence on energy.  

Now we get onto the 'fun stuff' - the 'matrix' as they call it - four possible scenarios that are in the cards - 'Lock Step', 'Clever Together', 'Hack Attack', and 'Smart Scramble'.



Copied-pasted verbatim from PDF:

LOCK STEP - A world of tighter top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership, with limited innovation and growing citizen pushback.

HACK ATTACK - An economically unstable and shock-prone world in which governments weaken, criminals thrive, and dangerous innovations emerge.

CLEVER TOGETHER - A world in which highly coordinated and successful strategies emerge for addressing both urgent and entrenched world issues (My note: This is the 'greenie' sustainable crap scenario - is a bit low on surprises and overall cataclysmic fear events, except for the ominous parting statement that goes something like this - 'the population is still growing exponentially - this is 'unsustainable' - something needs to be done)

SMART SCRAMBLE - An economically depressed world in which individuals and communities develop localized, makeshift solutions to a growing set of problems.

Here is how they preface all of this stuff:

Please consider names, dates, and other such specifics in each scenario as proxies for types of events, not as necessary conditions for any particular scenario to unfold (My note: Proxies for 'types of events'?? HMMMM - false flag terror and effects-based operations (EBO) comes to mind)

We now invite you to immerse yourself in each future world and consider four different visions for the evolution of technology and international development to 2030. (My note: Yeah, enjoy yourself alright. Funny, BTW, this date '2030' - the predictive programming exercise masquerading as a videogame 'Deus Ex: Human Revolution' also seems to 'predict' these marauding gangs, clashes with police and stuff by the year 2027 - hmmm - willing to bet they are tied into Global Business Network also and need to make the 'future scenario' a self-fulfilling prophecy? But more on that later)

LOCK STEP
A world of tighter top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership, with limited innovation and growing citizen pushback




The killer 2012 pandemic - killing millions
My note: BTW, so nice also to see guys like Proctor & Gamble and the like sitting in on the board of this organization - the Global Business Network - hmmmmmm - they don't hide this stuff very well now do they? Man, I'm telling you, the social sciences - psychology, behaviorism and the like - have really done one big mindjob on us all - we got their freaking number yet we're supposed to refrain from stating the obvious.

In 2012, the pandemic that the world had been anticipating for years finally hit. Unlike 2009's H1N1, this new influenza strain - originating from wild geese - was extremely virulent and deadly. Even the most pandemic-prepared nations were quickly overwhelmed when the virus streaked around the world, infecting nearly 20 percent of the global population and killing 8 million in just seven months, the majority of them healthy young adults. The pandemic also had a deadly effect on economies: international mobility of both people and goods screeched to a halt, debilitating industries like tourism and breaking global supply chains. Even locally, normally bustling shops and office buildings sat empty for months, devoid of both employees and customers.

The pandemic blanketed the planet - though disproportionate numbers died in Africa, Southeast Asia, and Central America, where the virus spread like wildfire in the absence of official containment protocols. But even in developed countries, containment was a challenge. The United States's initial policy of 'strongly discouraging' citizens from flying proved deadly in its leniency, accelerating the spread of the virus not just within the U.S. but across borders. However, a few countries did fare better - China in particular. The Chinese government's quick imposition and enforcement of mandatory quarantine for all citizens, as well as its instant and near-hermetic sealing off of all borders, saved millions of lives, stopping the spread of the virus far earlier than in other countries and enabling a swifter post- pandemic recovery. (My note: See how this 'future scenario' tacitly implies - without saying it - that China was able to stave off disaster because of their population policies and so on and their strict top-down authoritarian style of control, so the West had better adopt this too?)  

Ushering in all sorts of control and surveillance measures during the mass pandemic

China's government was not the only one that took extreme measures to protect its citizens from risk and exposure. During the pandemic, national leaders around the world flexed their authority and imposed airtight rules and restrictions, from the mandatory wearing of face masks to body-temperature checks at the entries to communal spaces like train stations and supermarkets. Even after the pandemic faded, this more authoritarian control and oversight of citizens and their activities stuck and even intensified. In order to protect themselves from the spread of increasingly global problems - from pandemics and transnational terrorism to environmental crises and rising poverty - leaders around the world took a firmer grip on power.

At first, the notion of a more controlled world gained wide acceptance and approval. Citizens willingly gave up some of their sovereignty - and their privacy - to more paternalistic states in exchange for greater safety and stability. Citizens were more tolerant, and even eager, for top-down direction and oversight, and national leaders had more latitude to impose order in the ways they saw fit. In developed countries, this heightened oversight took many forms: biometric IDs for all citizens, for example, and tighter regulation of key industries whose stability  was deemed vital to national interests. In many developed countries, enforced cooperation with a suite of new regulations and agreements slowly but steadily restored both order and, importantly, economic growth (My note: How about that eh? They're going to use the pretext of a mass-scale pandemic that will kill millions of people to usher in all these forms of control and even more overt surveillance. Amazing - and this is a report straight by the Rockefeller Foundation and an institution almost every bigwig company is a part of).

Control of science and business by big government

Meanwhile, in the developed world, the presence of so many top-down rules and norms greatly inhibited entrepreneurial activity. Scientists and innovators were often told by governments what research lines to pursue and were guided mostly toward projects that would make money (e.g., market-driven product development) or were 'sure bets' (e.g., fundamental research), leaving more risky or innovative research areas largely untapped. (My note: Actually, this has already been the case for a long time - science exists to fuel war, and the military controls nearly all laboratories and universities in the US. What else is new?

The backlash - the riots - by 2020 - right on cue with the Strategic Trends/Deus Ex agenda

By 2025, people seemed to be growing weary of so much top-down control and letting leaders and authorities make choices for them.

Wherever national interests clashed with individual interests, there was conflict. Sporadic pushback became increasingly organized and coordinated, as disaffected youth and people who had seen their status and opportunities slip away - largely in developing countries - incited civil unrest (my note: I especially like this part - 'especially in developing countries. It implies people will be hit hardest economically and status-wise in the 'developed world'). In 2026, protestors in Nigeria brought down the government, fed up with the entrenched cronyism and corruption. Even those who liked the greater stability and predictability of this world began to grow uncomfortable and constrained by so many tight rules and by the strictness of national boundaries. The feeling lingered that sooner or later, something would inevitably upset the neat order that the world's governments had worked so hard to establish.

Technology trends and applications we might see:

*  Scanners using advanced functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) technology become the norm at airports and other public areas to detect abnormal behavior that may indicate “antisocial intent.”

* Tele-presence technologies respond to the demand for less expensive, lower-bandwidth, sophisticated communications systems for populations whose travel is restricted. (My note: See? Travel will be for the 'elite' only)

* Driven by protectionism and national security concerns, nations create their own independent, regionally defined IT networks, mimicking China’s firewalls. Governments have varying degrees of success in policing internet traffic, but these efforts nevertheless fracture the “World Wide” Web.

CLEVER TOGETHER
A world in which highly coordinated and successful strategies emerge for addressing both urgent and entrenched worldwide issues



We'll skip 'Clever Together' for the most part - it's basic 'green eco-fascism' propaganda, sustainability crap, and framing this all as if it will benefit the people - with some 'necessary' austerity added in the mix that is glossed over. There is one 'natural disaster' that serves as the instigating event for more climate change legislation.

In 2014, the Hudson River overflowed into New York City during a storm surge, turning the World Trade Center site into a three-foot-deep lake. The image of motorboats navigating through lower Manhattan jarred the world’s most powerful nations into realizing that climate change was not just a developing-world problem. That same year, new measurements showing that atmospheric carbon dioxide levels were climbing precipitously created new urgency and pressure for governments (really, for everyone) to do something fast.

Food shortages by 2027 - rethink needed for 'smart growth' - ie 'depopulation

Over the course of two decades, enormous strides were made to make the world less wasteful, more efficient, and more inclusive. But the world was far from perfect. There were still failed states and places with few resources. Moreover, such rapid progress had created new problems. Rising consumption standards unexpectedly ushered in a new set of pressures: the improved food distribution system, for example, generated a food production crisis due to greater demand. Indeed, demand for everything was growing exponentially. By 2028, despite ongoing efforts to guide 'smart growth,' it was becoming clear that the world could not support such rapid growth forever.

Technology trends and applications we might see:

* The cost of capturing data through nanosensors and smart networks falls precipitously. In many developing countries, this leads to a proliferation of new and useful services, including “sousveillance” mechanisms that improve governance and enable more efficient use of government resources. (My note: I think 'sousveillance' is their term for 'natural computing' - ie everything will be like Avatar - everything has a unique GUID (Globally Unique Identifier), all hooked up to the Internet).

*  Advances in low-cost mind-controlled prosthetics aid the 80 percent of global amputees who live in developing countries.

HACK ATTACK
An economically unstable and shock-prone world in which governments weaken, criminals thrive, and dangerous innovations emerge

2012 to 2020 - the 'Doom Decade'

Devastating shocks like September 11, the Southeast Asian tsunami of 2004, and the 2010 Haiti earthquake had certainly primed the world for sudden disasters. But no one was prepared for a world in which large-scale catastrophes would occur with such breathtaking frequency. The years 2010 to 2020 were dubbed the 'doom decade' for good reason: the 2012 Olympic bombing, which killed 13,000, was followed closely by an earthquake in Indonesia killing 40,000, a tsunami that almost wiped out Nicaragua, and the onset of the West China Famine, caused by a once-in-a-millennium drought linked to climate change.

Humanitarian Relief - Brokeback economy - Chaos

Not surprisingly, this opening series of deadly asynchronous catastrophes (there were more) (My note: There were 'more'? Do tell, Rockefeller Foundation)put enormous pressure on an already overstressed global economy that had entered the decade still in recession. Massive humanitarian relief efforts cost vast sums of money, but the primary sources - from aid agencies to developed-world governments - had run out of funds to offer. Most nation-states could no longer afford their locked-in costs, let alone respond to increased citizen demands for more security, more healthcare coverage, more social programs and services, and more infrastructure repair. In 2014, when mudslides in Lima buried thousands, only minimal help trickled in, prompting the Economist headline: 'Is the Planet Finally Bankrupt?'

These dire circumstances forced tough tradeoffs. In 2015, the U.S. reallocated a large share of its defense spending to domestic concerns, pulling out of Afghanistan - where the resurgent Taliban seized power once again. In Europe, Asia, South America, and Africa, more and more nation- states lost control of their public finances, along   with the capacity to help their citizens and retain stability and order. Resource scarcities and trade disputes, together with severe economic and climate stresses, pushed many alliances and partnerships to the breaking point; they also sparked proxy wars and low-level conflict in resource-rich parts of the developing world. Nations raised trade barriers in order to protect their domestic sectors against imports and - in the face of global food and resource shortages - to reduce exports of agricultural produce and other commodities. By 2016, the global coordination and interconnectedness that had marked the post-Berlin Wall world was tenuous at best.[/size]

Reverse engineering of vaccines leading to decline in public trust in vaccine use

Criminal networks also grew highly skilled at counterfeiting licit goods through reverse engineering. Many of these 'rip-offs' and copycats were of poor quality or downright dangerous. In the context of weak health systems, corruption, and inattention to standards - either within countries or from global bodies like the World Health Organization - tainted vaccines entered the public health systems of several African countries. In 2021, 600 children in Cote d'Ivoire died from a bogus Hepatitis B vaccine, which paled in comparison to the scandal sparked by mass deaths from a tainted anti-malarial drug years later. The deaths and resulting scandals sharply affected public confidence in vaccine delivery; parents not just in Africa but elsewhere began to avoid vaccinating their children, and it wasn't long before infant and child mortality rose to levels not seen since the 1970s.

Cybercrime, intellectual copyright, security screenings heightened

Technology hackers were also hard at work. Internet scams and pyramid schemes plagued inboxes. Meanwhile, more sophisticated hackers attempted to take down corporations, government systems, and banks via phishing scams and database information heists, and their many successes generated billions of dollars in losses. Desperate to protect themselves and their intellectual property, the few multinationals still thriving enacted strong, increasingly complex defensive measures. Patent applications skyrocketed and patent thickets proliferated, as companies fought to claim and control even the tiniest innovations. Security measures and screenings tightened.

High-walled fortresses for the elite; divide between have/have-nots growing wider than ever

But despite such efforts, the global have/have-not gap grew wider than ever. The very rich still had the financial means to protect themselves; gated communities sprung up from New York to Lagos, providing safe havens surrounded by slums. In 2025, it was de rigueur to build not a house but a high-walled fortress, guarded by armed personnel. The wealthy also capitalized on the loose regulatory environment to experiment with advanced medical treatments and other under-the-radar activities.

Mad Max / Road Warrior scenario

Those who couldn't buy their way out of chaos - which was most people - retreated to whatever 'safety' they could find. With opportunity frozen and global mobility at a near standstill - no place wanted more people, especially more poor people - it was often a retreat to the familiar: family ties, religious beliefs, or even national allegiance. Trust was afforded to those who guaranteed safety and survival - whether it was a warlord, an evangelical preacher, or a mother. In some places, the collapse of state capacity led to a resurgence of feudalism. In other areas, people managed to create more resilient communities operating as isolated micro versions of formerly large-scale systems. The weakening of national governments also enabled grassroots movements to form and grow, creating rays of hope amid the bleakness.

No difference anymore between 'developed' and 'developing' nations

By 2030, the distinction between 'developed' and 'developing' nations no longer seemed particularly descriptive or relevant. '

It's a nice future these freaks have in store for us, isn't it? All cute and loving stuff....



Technology trends and applications we might see

* Echoing the rise of synthetic chemicals in the nineteenth century, synthetic biology, often state-funded, is used to “grow” resources and foodstuffs that have become scarce.
* New threats like weaponized biological pathogens and destructive botnets dominate public attention, but enduring technologies, like the AK-47, also remain weapons of choice for global guerrillas.
* The internet is overrun with spam and security threats and becomes strongly associated with illicit activity — especially on “dark webs” where no government can monitor, identify, or restrict activities.
* Identity-verification technologies become a staple of daily life, with some hitches — a database of retina recordings stolen by hackers in 2017 is used to create numerous false identities still “at large” in the mid-2020s.
* With the cost of cosmetic surgery dropping, procedures like the lunchtime facelift become routine among emerging middle classes.

SMART SCRAMBLE
An economically depressed world in which individuals and communities develop localized, makeshift solutions to a growing set of problems



Will cover this perhaps later.

Excellent find. It is interesting our problem is NOT having too many babies, It's that we are not dying fast enough for them...

ClimateGate and Scenario Planning - "Hide the decline" is just the tip of the iceburg

Sub-Replacement fertility -  the Second Demographic Transition

Memorable quotes for THX 1138 SRT: How shall the new environment be programmed? It all happened so slowly that most men failed to realize that anything had happened at all.

Both the current prevalence of low fertility and its persistence are unprecedented (see Frejka & Ross 2001, Population Reference Bureau 2004, Stark & Kohler 2002).

more than half of the world's population now lives in countries with sub-replacement fertility.
Further,  note that
only 3% of the world's population now lives in countries that have not begun fertility decline ,  and that past research suggests that
once a fertility transition has begun, it does not stop until birth rates of 2 or below have been achieved.

The Sequoia Seminars

Stolaroff, with the help of Willis Harman, largely funded the foundation, the real purpose of which was to conduct the research needed to make LSD credible in the medical profession. They worked with several psychologists, including Fadiman, as well as the mysterious Al Hubbard, who was a mentor to both Harman and Stolaroff and who became a member of the board of directors.

Fadiman, who soon was teaching at San Francisco State, finished his Ph.D. in psychology at Stanford, and his research at the foundation focused on the changes in beliefs, attitude, and behavior that resulted from taking LSD.
...
The foundation was not far from Roy Kepler's bookstore and a short walk from the hole-in-the-wall store where the Midpeninsula Free University store and print shop were to locate in the mid-sixties. In another building a block away, Stewart Brand later established the Whole Earth Truck Store and the Whole Earth Catalog. About a mile away from the truck store, the original People's Computer Company settled and in turn was the catalyst for the Homebrew Computer Club in the mid-1970s. The club itself served to ignite the personal-computer industry.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/19/magazine/19wwln-domains-t.html
Stewart Brand - On the Waterfront
Published: April 15, 2009

Job description: I design stuff; I start stuff; I found stuff. On the passport I put “writer.”

Bad trip: That was my first trip. I had 400 micrograms of LSD under quite clinical circumstances at a psychological research institute in Menlo Park, Calif. It was in a white room with therapists sitting around.

Good trip: In 1963 or ’64 I showed up at the door of Ken Kesey, the novelist and LSD evangelist. I was involved in Kesey’s Acid Tests, which were happenings where LSD made its way around and everyone was there to entertain each other.

On the wagon: Since 1969 I haven’t used psychedelics. I realized I’d seen all I needed to see

Current project: With the Long Now Foundation, I am helping to build a 10,000-year clock inside a mountain in Nevada. We are trying to get people to think long-term, because civilization’s shortening attention span is mismatched with the pace of environmental problems

http://www.massivechange.com/media/INF_StewartBrand.pdf

STEWART BRAND INTERVIEW - 25/11/2003
What was Bucky Fuller’s reaction to your button campaign that asked, “Why haven’t we seen an image of the whole earth yet?”

It was all because of LSD, see. I took some lysergic acid diethylamide on an otherwise boring afternoon and came to the notion that seeing an image of the Earth from space would change a lot of things.

So, on next to no budget, I printed up buttons and posters and sold them on street corners at the University of California, Berkeley. I went to Stanford and back east to Columbia, Harvard, and MIT.

I also mailed the materials to various people: Marshall McLuhan, Buckminster Fuller, senators, members of the U.S. and Soviet space programs. Out of everyone, I only heard back from Bucky Fuller, who wrote, “Dear boy, it’s a charming notion but you must realize you can never see more than half the earth from any particular point in space.” I was amused, and then met him a few months later at a seminar at Esalen Institute in Big Sur, California. I sat across from his lunch table and pushed the button over to him, asking him what he thought about it. He said, “Oh yes, I wrote to that guy.” I said, “I’m the guy. So what do you think?

What kind of difference do you think it will make when we actually get photographs of the earth from space?”

There was this slow, lovely silence. Then he said, “Dear boy, how can I help you?”
...

Stewart Brand is founder of the Whole Earth Catalog and cofounder of The Long Now
Foundation, The WELL, and Global Business Network.

I know the Global Business Network does some work with the Pentagon.
What about the possibility of a long peace?

I love working with the Pentagon because they’re the only entity I know that is
completely eager to think in half-century terms. And there are several reasons for that.

They’re not a commercial entity so they’re not worried about the next quarter. They’re not a democratic entity so they’re not worried about the next election. There really is a socialist economy in the military, and the people that you encounter at the senior levels are extremely bright. They’ve come up in a very tough meritocratic pyramid, and are trained throughout their lives to think globally.

What sort of scenario planning do you do with them?

One of the scenarios that developed in the course of our work with the Pentagon was what we refer to as a rogue superpower. We were looking at the various threats from rogue states and one of us said, “Let’s see. What if you combined a lone superpower?

What about rogue states? What if they’re one and the same?” The answer is a rogue superpower! So we looked at this at great length and, lo and behold, in 2001 we received a call from a friend in the Pentagon. He said, “I think we’ve gotten to the rogue superpower scenario.”

What were your thoughts on 9/11?

We were thinking that it was sort of right on schedule. It was horrifying for a lot of people who had been working both in the Clinton Administration and in Congress on the  terrorism environment because we were saying for some time, “Look, the U.S. is not invulnerable in this.” So a lot of us just groaned because we had already thought about
it.

http://www.longnow.org/clock/
The idea to build a monument scale, multi-millennial, all mechanical clock as an icon to long-term thinking came from computer scientist Danny Hillis and was published in the form of an email to friends. Later it was followed up with an essay published in the 1995 Wired magazine "Scenarios" issue.

Zbigniew Brzezinski pushes Rockefeller agenda of

PERSISTING SOCIAL CRISIS

to justify more weapons against the American people on LIVE TV!

Zbigniew Brzezinski: Obama The New Mr. 'Malaise'

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2010/07/16/m-word-zbigniew-brzezinski-says-obama-presiding-over-age-malaise
By Mark Finkelstein
Fri, 07/16/2010 - 08:35 ET [/center]
  

Can you hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth emanating from 1600 Pennslyvania Avenue?  It's Pres. Obama & Co. reacting to Zbigniew Brzezinki pinning on Barack Obama the word that doomed Jimmy Carter: "malaise."

On Morning Joe, Carter's former national security adviser said there "is a sense of pervasive malaise" in America. What's worse, suggested Zbig, Pres. Obama hasn't been able to figure out how to deal with the malaise. Ruh-roh!
 

ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI: I think we're now going through a phase in which there is a sense of pervasive malaise, which affects different groups in society in different ways.

So people are dissatisfied; they're slightly worried; they don't see a good certain future for themselves or for the country, but in their own narrow sphere.

There's no grand mobilizing idea. And I have a sense that Obama, who started so well, and who really captivated people—he captivated me!—has not been able yet to generate some sort of organizing idea for an age which combines a malaise that's pervasive and percolating, and complexity.. . .  

PAT BUCHANAN: We need a new paradigm!

BREZINSKI: And the President hasn't articulated it.

BUCHANAN: No he hasn't.

BREZINSKI: There goes any further invitation to the White House!


Brzezinski clearly understood the personal implications of his downer of a diagnosis: "there goes any further invitation to the White House!"  The panel all enjoyed a good chuckle, but could anything be much worse for PBO than to be seen as the reincarnation of Jimmy Carter?

Historical Note:  Here's more on the Malaise Speech itself.  Interestingly, although Carter adviser Pat Caddell used "malaise" in his notes for the speech, Carter himself never actually employed the word, speaking instead of a "crisis of the spirit in our country."

No Goneril, She: Good daughter that she is, Mika tried to put the best face on father's words.  As Zbig lamented the end of his White House invitations, Mika twice pointed out that he had said "yet."  In other words, it's not that pops had painted the president an irredeemable failure.  It's just that PBO hasn't come up with a solution to the malaise "yet."

[Xill]

As always, I disagree with most of the people here. I did not listen to Max Keiser, I am only replying to the first post.

There is in fact a much stronger culture in Europe, and we know the NWO can only be achieved through cultural domination (currently the junk mainstream arts coupled with the technological advancement (iphone etc.) and, I may add, a promoted disdain for reading and learning). France and Germany have the richer cultures - as culture relates to history, arts, history, philosophy and literature; therefore they will offer the most resistance against the NWO. (they already do in fact, suffice to look in the more discerning newspapers or frequent manifestations).

However, is Paris safe? of course NO, but does it have more chance? YES. Because the battle against the NWO is a battle of ideas, not of war machinery. In America we always complain about the NWO yet the best we can hope for is a criminal trial of the elites, the society in itself is status quo. In France the philosophy of a society is that of something which must be improved upon in permanence and new ideas and visions surfaces everyday.

I've been planing to leave for Europe because of those particular reasons (speak French, learning German and will then go for Italian), but there is one more incitive:

Germany:
"Generally, in Germany fluoridation of drinking water is forbidden. The relevant German law allows exceptions to the fluoridation ban on application. The argumentation of the Federal Ministry of Health against a general permission of fluoridation of drinking water is the problematic nature of compuls[ory] medication." (Gerda Hankel-Khan, Embassy of Federal Republic of Germany, September 16, 1999).

France:
"Fluoride chemicals are not included in the list [of 'chemicals for drinking water treatment']. This is due to ethical as well as medical considerations." (Louis Sanchez, Directeur de la Protection de l'Environment, August 25, 2000).

And so is most of the rest of Europe:
http://www.fluoridealert.org/govt-statements.htm

Same goes for the GMO

NWO is just a name, what matters is the social conditions under which you live, and those conditions are different in Europe than in America.
None the less it is only my perspective and you may not relates to it. Which brings me to:

So Max Keiser is a Climategate Denier... Why should we care?
You want to be considered innocent until proven guilty? Well how about you start by applying that same principle to others? He's entitled to his opinion, no matter how wrong it may be. How many times have the people here been wrong? on how many subjects? Too many, IN MY OPINION.

[Satyagraha]

There is in fact a much stronger culture in Europe, and we know the NWO can only be achieved through cultural domination (currently the junk mainstream arts coupled with the technological advancement (iphone etc.) and, I may add, a promoted disdain for reading and learning). France and Germany have the richer cultures - as culture relates to history, arts, history, philosophy and literature; therefore they will offer the most resistance against the NWO. (they already do in fact, suffice to look in the more discerning newspapers or frequent manifestations).

I think you need to do some reading before you head out to the airport.... because the 'real' culture you seek is not something you'll find in Europe. Europe has been as diluted as any other western country; you find the same mass marketing of brand-named goods in Europe as you will in Tokyo or New York. The idea of 'culture' as a way of life (reveling in the richness of culture as you describe it), is not something you can find in Europe, or in Japan, or Australia - you have to go further east for that.

When Europeans were still living in mud huts, Islamic culture was thriving - libraries, art, music, medical techniques that wouldn't be seen in Europe for decades. You should do some reading; you will be blown away when you learn about real cultural heritage that has managed to survive for thousands of years... to find it you should head to Iran where you will find artwork and architecture, poetry (think of Rumi!), music, cuisine, education, busy sophisticated urban centers, thriving local villages, and a fiercely strong and resilient people that are healthy and still maintain a strong sense of family and community.  You won't read about this in mainstream media; because they are being demonized in preparation to blow them off the face of the earth.

So hurry, you can check out Iran while it's still intact.

In America we always complain about the NWO yet the best we can hope for is a criminal trial of the elites, the society in itself is status quo. In France the philosophy of a society is that of something which must be improved upon in permanence and new ideas and visions surfaces everyday.

Toto, you're not in Kansas anymore, and Paris is not any different than Chicago.

[Dig]

As always, I disagree with most of the people here. I did not listen to Max Keiser, I am only replying to the first post.

There is in fact a much stronger culture in Europe, and we know the NWO can only be achieved through cultural domination (currently the junk mainstream arts coupled with the technological advancement (iphone etc.) and, I may add, a promoted disdain for reading and learning). France and Germany have the richer cultures - as culture relates to history, arts, history, philosophy and literature; therefore they will offer the most resistance against the NWO. (they already do in fact, suffice to look in the more discerning newspapers or frequent manifestations).

However, is Paris safe? of course NO, but does it have more chance? YES. Because the battle against the NWO is a battle of ideas, not of war machinery. In America we always complain about the NWO yet the best we can hope for is a criminal trial of the elites, the society in itself is status quo. In France the philosophy of a society is that of something which must be improved upon in permanence and new ideas and visions surfaces everyday.

I've been planing to leave for Europe because of those particular reasons (speak French, learning German and will then go for Italian), but there is one more incitive:

Germany:
"Generally, in Germany fluoridation of drinking water is forbidden. The relevant German law allows exceptions to the fluoridation ban on application. The argumentation of the Federal Ministry of Health against a general permission of fluoridation of drinking water is the problematic nature of compuls[ory] medication." (Gerda Hankel-Khan, Embassy of Federal Republic of Germany, September 16, 1999).

France:
"Fluoride chemicals are not included in the list [of 'chemicals for drinking water treatment']. This is due to ethical as well as medical considerations." (Louis Sanchez, Directeur de la Protection de l'Environment, August 25, 2000).

And so is most of the rest of Europe:
http://www.fluoridealert.org/govt-statements.htm

Same goes for the GMO

NWO is just a name, what matters is the social conditions under which you live, and those conditions are different in Europe than in America.
None the less it is only my perspective and you may not relates to it. Which brings me to:

So Max Keiser is a Climategate Denier... Why should we care?
You want to be considered innocent until proven guilty? Well how about you start by applying that same principle to others? He's entitled to his opinion, no matter how wrong it may be. How many times have the people here been wrong? on how many subjects? Too many, IN MY OPINION.

Wow, no fluoride?

Really?

OMFG...I cannot wait to go to France and get me some AIDS from the new IG Farben pharmaceutical Nazis!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJNc-fo6omY

[Wozzy]

Max, if you think things are way much better in France : you are wrong ! There are loads of NWO freaks at the head of France ! Sarkozy calling on and on for a new world order ! His corrupt governement ! Just make some research about the Lilliane Bettancourt case : that's a very huge thing of scam, curruption, tax evasion, etc. Sarkozy is completely involved in it like the Karachi case : Again Sarkozy in it ! No Max, France also is in big troubles !

[EvadingGrid]

See if you know what this is .....

I am surprised nobody has picked up on this post I made earlier ...

[DaInfoMan]

European countries are going to be just fine when the lovely European Union watching over them like a loving "Mother"

Here's a speech from Frances leader Sarkozy

It's in French but I'm pretty sure you guys can easy translate it to NWO speak!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVyqU0g93cY

[TahoeBlue]

I am surprised nobody has picked up on this post I made earlier ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_the_Rights_of_Man_and_of_the_Citizen


Declaration of the Rights of Man: Revolutionary patriotism borrows familiar iconography of the Ten Commandments.

It was prepared and proposed by the marquis de Lafayette.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Budd

The plot follows Billy Budd, a seaman impressed into service aboard HMS Bellipotent in the year 1797, when the Royal Navy was reeling from two major mutinies and was threatened by the Revolutionary French Republic's military ambitions. He is impressed from another ship, The Rights of Man (named after the very topical book by Thomas Paine of that period, leading Budd to shout as it leaves "farewell Rights of Man" clearly intended to have a double meaning, and considered so by the crew who hear it).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rights_of_Man
Rights of Man (1791), by Thomas Paine, posits that popular political revolution is permissible when a government does not safeguard its people, their natural rights, and their national interests. It defends the French Revolution against Edmund Burke's attack in Reflections on the Revolution in France (1790). [1]

[Aoss]

I heard Keiser for the first time on the radio show yesterday... and while he comes off as a lil rough, I like it.

I understand why AJ and some of his listeners were angered about some of the things he had to say about the American people not standing up, but I think that's what he was trying to do.  He was trying to troll you guys and motivate you to do something which I think is what we need right now.

If AJ were to say some of the same things that he said, he'd probably lose some fans.  But a guest saying it on his broadcast, simply motivates the listeners imo.

[kurtaxis]

I believe that anyone can post any film idea on that website in hopes of getting it funded. That particular movie hasn't received any funding and probably never will. It just being on his website does not mean Max is funding it or endorsing it.

However, your points on the carbon trading scam is right on. I don't know how he can't see right through it.

Perhaps he invested in firms, like Gore's, that market cap and trade. Ajones asked him, admonishingly,  if he would profit off of the economic demise of the US and Keiser hesitated but just moments before said "that's me." During that broadcast he was rather flippant and impetuous.

I downloaded the  wmv file of the 8/16/2010 show  from prisonplanet.com this conversation occurred around  2:55:55 to about  2:58:09, I am not sure if it is the same time frame for the other other formats with the exception of the mp3 file that edited the commercials.